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THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN
The most powerful truth on the planet is the way to get rid of
something is to perfectly duplicate having made it in the first place,
and then perfectly duplicate how one made it persist after having made
it in the first place.
The way out is the way in.
Practice coming in, puts you out.
"WHO'S WHO IN THE UNIVERSE.
The Creator can become the Creature at will.
The Creature can become the Creator at will.
The way for the Creature to become the Creator is for the
Creature to BE the Creator becoming the Creature.
Practice becoming the Creature is practice being the Creator.
The reason the Creature is not able to become the Creator, is
because the Creature is unwilling to become the Creature.
Dig it and don't leave it."
From ADORE.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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MORE ON MISSED WITHHOLDS
ADO - 11
24 December 1993
Copyright (C) 1993 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
There are two broad classes of Withholds.
They are POSITIVE WITHHOLDS and NEGATIVE WITHHOLDS.
A Withhold is something that you know and others don't.
A Positive Withhold is something you wanted to communicate to
another but were unable to. They didn't get the communication anyhow.
A Negative Withhold is something you wanted to NOT communicate to
another but were unable to. They got the communication anyhow.
A MISSED WITHHOLD is a Positive or Negative Withhold that has been
restimulated but not pulled. That means the guy was reminded about it,
felt bad about it, but failed to complete his intention on it to have it
known or not known, and so it gets buried again along with newly created
charge.
There are three broad classes of Missed Withholds.
They are CLOSE CALLS, WONDERS and STILL KNOWS.
A Close Calls Missed Withhold is when a communication was almost
received but it wasn't OR when a communication was almost NOT received
but it was. It was a close call, regardless of which way it turned out.
A Wonders Missed Withhold is when the being can not determine if
the communication was received or not. He is left WONDERING.
A Still Knows Missed Withhold is when the being knows that the
communication WAS received, but later he wonders if the receiver still
knows or still remembers receiving it. There is also a Still Doesn't
Know Missed Withhold which is when the being knows that the
communication WAS NOT received, but later he wonders if the receiver
still doesn't know.
A Positive Close Call is when you try to communicate to someone and
they almost receive it but you know they don't.
A Positive Close Call is also when you try to communicate to
someone and they almost DON'T receive it but you know they do.
A Positive Wonders is when you try to communicate to someone and
you can't determine if they received it or not.
A Positive Still Knows is when you try to communicate to someone
and you know they got it, but later you wonder if they still have it.
A Positive Still Doesn't Know is when you try to communicate to
someone and you know they didn't get it, but later you wonder if they
still don't know.
A Negative Close Call is when you try to NOT communicate to someone
and they almost receive it but you know they don't.
A Negative Close Call is when you try to NOT communicate to someone
and they almost don't receive it but you know they did.
A Negative Wonders is when you try to NOT communicate to someone
and you can't determine if they received it or not.
A Negative Still Knows is when you try to NOT communicate to
someone and you know they recieved it anyhow, but later you wonder if
they still know it.
A Negative Still Doesn't Know is when you try to NOT communicate to
someone and you know they didn't receive it, but later you wonder if
they still don't know.
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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MORE ON MISSED WITHHOLDS
ADO - 11
24 December 1993
Copyright (C) 1993 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
There are two broad classes of Withholds.
They are POSITIVE WITHHOLDS and NEGATIVE WITHHOLDS.
A Withhold is something that you know and others don't.
A Positive Withhold is something you wanted to communicate to
another but were unable to. They didn't get the communication anyhow.
A Negative Withhold is something you wanted to NOT communicate to
another but were unable to. They got the communication anyhow.
A MISSED WITHHOLD is a Positive or Negative Withhold that has been
restimulated but not pulled. That means the guy was reminded about it,
felt bad about it, but failed to complete his intention on it to have it
known or not known, and so it gets buried again along with newly created
charge.
There are three broad classes of Missed Withholds.
They are CLOSE CALLS, WONDERS and STILL KNOWS.
A Close Calls Missed Withhold is when a communication was almost
received but it wasn't OR when a communication was almost NOT received
but it was. It was a close call, regardless of which way it turned out.
A Wonders Missed Withhold is when the being can not determine if
the communication was received or not. He is left WONDERING.
A Still Knows Missed Withhold is when the being knows that the
communication WAS received, but later he wonders if the receiver still
knows or still remembers receiving it. There is also a Still Doesn't
Know Missed Withhold which is when the being knows that the
communication WAS NOT received, but later he wonders if the receiver
still doesn't know.
A Positive Close Call is when you try to communicate to someone and
they almost receive it but you know they don't.
A Positive Close Call is also when you try to communicate to
someone and they almost DON'T receive it but you know they do.
A Positive Wonders is when you try to communicate to someone and
you can't determine if they received it or not.
A Positive Still Knows is when you try to communicate to someone
and you know they got it, but later you wonder if they still have it.
A Positive Still Doesn't Know is when you try to communicate to
someone and you know they didn't get it, but later you wonder if they
still don't know.
A Negative Close Call is when you try to NOT communicate to someone
and they almost receive it but you know they don't.
A Negative Close Call is when you try to NOT communicate to someone
and they almost don't receive it but you know they did.
A Negative Wonders is when you try to NOT communicate to someone
and you can't determine if they received it or not.
A Negative Still Knows is when you try to NOT communicate to
someone and you know they recieved it anyhow, but later you wonder if
they still know it.
A Negative Still Doesn't Know is when you try to NOT communicate to
someone and you know they didn't receive it, but later you wonder if
they still don't know.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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SCI18
WHAT CAN BE EXPECTED OF CLEARING TECHNOLOGY?
SCI - 18
Copyright (C) 1992 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
It is reasonable to ask what can be expected from auditing or the
application of clearing technology.
There are two basic End Phenomena or E/P's that should accompany
every session and the over all journey of going clear.
Sometimes Church representatives or even auditors or C/S's will
tell you that you have to be patient. That it takes time for auditing
to work, that you can't judge whether you are making case gain until you
give it a chance.
It is fair at that point to ask, 'How much of a chance?'
What ever they say you must take counsel within yourself to
consider if their answer is acceptable to you before you start, and then
you should keep track of whether their predictions are coming true on
schedule as your auditing proceeds.
If you find that they say, 'well give it 4 intensives (4x12 =
48hours)' and then after 48 hours nothing of import seems to be
happening, and you ask them again and they say, 'well give it another 4
intensives', you probably should consider twice what you are doing.
Now some registrars (Church reps trying to sell you auditing) will
try something very sneaky with you. They will say, 'Well you know
auditing works very deeply, and not always in noticeable ways, and you
may not notice as you go along that any BIG change is happening. But
years down the road you will look back on yourself and you will see that
you are no longer the same person that you were.'
Fine, do this, and then years down the road see if you are the same
person, and if you are ask for your money back.
Or they will tell you about the 'long road to OT', which is really
funny because the road to OT is exactly about 3 feet long, it's just
that everyone insists upon getting there via Timbuktu. Church
registrars will be more than happy to charge you all along the way.
Watch out for people whose income is proportional to how long it
takes you to walk that road, even if it is through Timbuktu.
So there is a lot of room for scam here, because people's cases are
fixated on NO CHANGE anyhow, so they will buy the message of HOPE rather
than RESULTS, and they will be more than comfortable laying down $12,000
for 4 intensives, knowing that they don't have to have anything really
big happen until at least the 40th hour or so.
Frankly I have exactly zero sympathy for this.
When you put your money down for auditing it is like an investment.
At the moment your money changes hands, BEFORE you receive your
service, your net worth has just taken a dive to the tune of however
much you have forked over.
Now perhaps you can claim that your assets have merely moved over
from cash to inventory, counted as hours of auditing still to be
delivered, so your net worth really hasn't gone down at all.
Fine, but the moment you start getting auditing you are using those
hours up, so you had better have something to show for it once it's
done.
Now what you are buying in auditing is increased ability.
Ability to be healthy, communicate, remember, imagine, invent,
create, produce, make a living, and face your eternal future without
cringe, flinch or dread.
Life consists of production and consumption, profit consists of
producing more than you are consuming. The world is one large source of
exothermic reactions (little work in, lots of results out) and if you
can't produce more than you are consuming then you are a sinking ship on
your way to make room for those who can.
You survive by consuming, producing and trading.
By handing money over for auditing you are handing over hard earned
work credits, they represent production of ergs or joules or value
however you wish to count it. If you do not get value in return for
your money you have gotten the poor end of the deal.
Now maybe you don't want to measure your net worth in terms of
dollars or material things. Perhaps you should also get a brain and
realize that you need to eat to survive long enough to enjoy all those
other non material things. Thus net worth and affluence is measured in
some sense by the ability to produce, trade and consume material things,
accountrements of survival.
But there are surely other assets not so material, like well being,
or peace, or being able to engage in a fearless future. These too are
worth some work credits, when it comes down to it.
How much is it worth to you to no longer be afraid of death, your
own or those you love?
$10.00?
To see your cat go under the tire of a car and be able to say
"Wonderful! Well done!".
$20.00?
How much would it be worth to you to know exactly how
long you will spend in hell after you die before you let your
self out?
$30.00?
So when you invest in auditing you are handing over a sizable chunk
of your net worth AS AN INVESTMENT with full expectation of return to
exceed your outlay.
That means your net worth should go UP after each investment, not
down. I don't care how you measure that net worth, or what your coin of
the realm may be, but what ever it is you had better have more of it
after an auditing investment cycle, or else you just made a bad
investment.
Any farmer knows how to plant an ear of corn to make 10, so any
auditor should be able to do at least the same with your case and free
theta count.
Now the purpose of auditing is to produce case gain, and there is a
specific end phenomenon to each auditing action, at least there is a
point at which you know you have WON rather than lost in this game of
auditing. At that point, usually you end off the session for another
day and another process.
And another dollar.
When someone invests in a stock and it proceeds to take a nose
dive, you don't hold on to it, do you? You get rid of it and cut your
losses short.
You don't hang on to it for 4 months or $12,000 worth of auditing.
You get rid of it.
Doing otherwise is called ESCALATION OF COMMITTMENT.
You think you have already invested this much in a wrong decision,
you can't quit now, so you invest more...
So its the same with auditing. If you haven't gotten gains during
the very first session that make you comfortable with your net worth
situation, then you have not gotten a good first session and you should
go get another auditor or C/S.
Enjoy the sound of their whine about not giving them enough of a
chance to produce valuable change in your outlook, but enjoy that sound
from an increasing distance.
If after 4 intensives and $12,000 you are still wondering if this
is doing anything for you, you ought to get a new self, because you are
really too stupid to help.
So there are two E/P's that override all other considerations in
case gain. Each E/P is contained in every other conceivable E/P, and
every E/P you will ever have in auditing or in life can be checked for
these two E/P's to see if they are worth the time and money you spent on
it.
The first E/P is this,
'KNOWS that clearing technology is a good thing and ought to be
continued.'
If you can feel this after every session then you know you have
received what you should have, and what is possible, with today's high
speed processing.
The second E/P pertains to your overall track in the universe
coming in, and your over all track getting out. It is the final E/P of
all E/P's, the final release state and the final reason for getting
auditing. It is the highest possible state that anyone can attain, and
it must be reflected in some measure in all lower states attained or
case gain made.
If you are not making this E/P in some measure in every session,
then you are not on the route out.
This E/P is,
'Willing, interested and able to be here, and able to remain.'
This might not at first seem very sensible. There is a lower
harmonic mimicry of this state called apathy. The person is so low tone
that they have no protest about being here, and they are able to remain
solely because they can't get out.
Barring this false acceptance of what one can not stand, the only
condition that anyone could ever complain about with regard to
themselves or their case can be summed up in one line,
'Unwilling to be here and unable to leave'.
The opposite of this of course is,
'Willing to be here, and able to remain or leave at will.'
Many people get into auditing because it promises to lead the way
out of this universe. Ron has said that this planet is an egress
terminal for this universe at this time. And right he is.
The problem is that people who are running on an unwillingness to
be here, figure they are going to get out and never come back. They
aren't sure how they got here in the first place, but they don't care as
long as they get out and don't ever have to think about it again.
That's called ELSE-WHERE-NESS, or wanting to be elsewhere.
Now the fact's are a being chose to be here, so he had some reason
for coming in. Before he came in he was out, so he clearly had free
choice in the matter. Therefore the address of auditing MUST be towards
recovering for the individual why he chose to come in, why he WANTED to
to be here.
Once he has that he can get out.
Outness INCLUDES, no IS, a willingness to come in.
Cuz that's what outness does, create and enter an inness.
So those who get into Scientology or auditing solely because they
want to get out, never get out. Clearing technology can never help you
get out of something except by helping you recover your willingness to
come in.
But then you CAN get out, so its ok.
However you might decide to stay in.
You can get out of anything you are happy you came in to.
Thus what we are looking for in auditing or any form of real help,
is a recovery of the ability to come in, and a willingness to come in
and STAY in for a while.
OUTness drips with the beauty and aesthetic of being IN.
no matter how horrible being in is.
There is an aesthetic to horrow that needs to be contacted and
mastered as Creative Artist again.
You will find that early on the track some beings were quite ready
to come in, but they had a hard time staying in. They kept waking up
out of their own dream, it was too ludicrous. This was actually a major
problem and resulted in the present situation where some people guard
very closely their inability to get out because they don't want to
leave.
But the only way they could stick themselves in, was to hide that
they had wanted to come in in the first place. Remembering where you
really are will wake you up out of any dream.
So they hid their choice and willingness in the matter of coming
in, making it SEEM like they only wanted out, all so that they could
stay in.
If this confuses you, good, that will help you stay in, which is
what you wanted.
There are too many naked girls here in this dream to want to leave.
Even if we all are hanging from crosses and them above us.
So the purpose of auditing is clearing up these confusions and
INABILITIES that a thetan has on the subject of coming in, staying in,
getting out, being unable to stay in, getting stuck out, getting stuck
in, etc., by auditing his DECISIONS to make it so and his reasons for
those decisions.
Part of this is handled on the Interiorization-Exteriorization
Rundown, but really the whole address of auditing pertains to it.
One is not only stuck in a body, but also a life, an identity, a
language, a set of abilities, a country, a planet, a solar system, a
galaxy, a universe and a time stream.
Each one had considerations of coming in, and getting out.
Each one started off with willingness to be here and not being able
to remain, decaying eventually down to unwillingness to be here and
unable to get out.
So look, if you are going to put down your hard earned cash for
auditing, please judge your auditing by sensible guidelines. If you are
the poorer for it after it is done, and I mean EACH SESSION, then don't
get more. Just go find another auditor or pick up the cans and solo.
You do have an E-meter, right?
Homer
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SCI - 18
Copyright (C) 1992 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
It is reasonable to ask what can be expected from auditing or the
application of clearing technology.
There are two basic End Phenomena or E/P's that should accompany
every session and the over all journey of going clear.
Sometimes Church representatives or even auditors or C/S's will
tell you that you have to be patient. That it takes time for auditing
to work, that you can't judge whether you are making case gain until you
give it a chance.
It is fair at that point to ask, 'How much of a chance?'
What ever they say you must take counsel within yourself to
consider if their answer is acceptable to you before you start, and then
you should keep track of whether their predictions are coming true on
schedule as your auditing proceeds.
If you find that they say, 'well give it 4 intensives (4x12 =
48hours)' and then after 48 hours nothing of import seems to be
happening, and you ask them again and they say, 'well give it another 4
intensives', you probably should consider twice what you are doing.
Now some registrars (Church reps trying to sell you auditing) will
try something very sneaky with you. They will say, 'Well you know
auditing works very deeply, and not always in noticeable ways, and you
may not notice as you go along that any BIG change is happening. But
years down the road you will look back on yourself and you will see that
you are no longer the same person that you were.'
Fine, do this, and then years down the road see if you are the same
person, and if you are ask for your money back.
Or they will tell you about the 'long road to OT', which is really
funny because the road to OT is exactly about 3 feet long, it's just
that everyone insists upon getting there via Timbuktu. Church
registrars will be more than happy to charge you all along the way.
Watch out for people whose income is proportional to how long it
takes you to walk that road, even if it is through Timbuktu.
So there is a lot of room for scam here, because people's cases are
fixated on NO CHANGE anyhow, so they will buy the message of HOPE rather
than RESULTS, and they will be more than comfortable laying down $12,000
for 4 intensives, knowing that they don't have to have anything really
big happen until at least the 40th hour or so.
Frankly I have exactly zero sympathy for this.
When you put your money down for auditing it is like an investment.
At the moment your money changes hands, BEFORE you receive your
service, your net worth has just taken a dive to the tune of however
much you have forked over.
Now perhaps you can claim that your assets have merely moved over
from cash to inventory, counted as hours of auditing still to be
delivered, so your net worth really hasn't gone down at all.
Fine, but the moment you start getting auditing you are using those
hours up, so you had better have something to show for it once it's
done.
Now what you are buying in auditing is increased ability.
Ability to be healthy, communicate, remember, imagine, invent,
create, produce, make a living, and face your eternal future without
cringe, flinch or dread.
Life consists of production and consumption, profit consists of
producing more than you are consuming. The world is one large source of
exothermic reactions (little work in, lots of results out) and if you
can't produce more than you are consuming then you are a sinking ship on
your way to make room for those who can.
You survive by consuming, producing and trading.
By handing money over for auditing you are handing over hard earned
work credits, they represent production of ergs or joules or value
however you wish to count it. If you do not get value in return for
your money you have gotten the poor end of the deal.
Now maybe you don't want to measure your net worth in terms of
dollars or material things. Perhaps you should also get a brain and
realize that you need to eat to survive long enough to enjoy all those
other non material things. Thus net worth and affluence is measured in
some sense by the ability to produce, trade and consume material things,
accountrements of survival.
But there are surely other assets not so material, like well being,
or peace, or being able to engage in a fearless future. These too are
worth some work credits, when it comes down to it.
How much is it worth to you to no longer be afraid of death, your
own or those you love?
$10.00?
To see your cat go under the tire of a car and be able to say
"Wonderful! Well done!".
$20.00?
How much would it be worth to you to know exactly how
long you will spend in hell after you die before you let your
self out?
$30.00?
So when you invest in auditing you are handing over a sizable chunk
of your net worth AS AN INVESTMENT with full expectation of return to
exceed your outlay.
That means your net worth should go UP after each investment, not
down. I don't care how you measure that net worth, or what your coin of
the realm may be, but what ever it is you had better have more of it
after an auditing investment cycle, or else you just made a bad
investment.
Any farmer knows how to plant an ear of corn to make 10, so any
auditor should be able to do at least the same with your case and free
theta count.
Now the purpose of auditing is to produce case gain, and there is a
specific end phenomenon to each auditing action, at least there is a
point at which you know you have WON rather than lost in this game of
auditing. At that point, usually you end off the session for another
day and another process.
And another dollar.
When someone invests in a stock and it proceeds to take a nose
dive, you don't hold on to it, do you? You get rid of it and cut your
losses short.
You don't hang on to it for 4 months or $12,000 worth of auditing.
You get rid of it.
Doing otherwise is called ESCALATION OF COMMITTMENT.
You think you have already invested this much in a wrong decision,
you can't quit now, so you invest more...
So its the same with auditing. If you haven't gotten gains during
the very first session that make you comfortable with your net worth
situation, then you have not gotten a good first session and you should
go get another auditor or C/S.
Enjoy the sound of their whine about not giving them enough of a
chance to produce valuable change in your outlook, but enjoy that sound
from an increasing distance.
If after 4 intensives and $12,000 you are still wondering if this
is doing anything for you, you ought to get a new self, because you are
really too stupid to help.
So there are two E/P's that override all other considerations in
case gain. Each E/P is contained in every other conceivable E/P, and
every E/P you will ever have in auditing or in life can be checked for
these two E/P's to see if they are worth the time and money you spent on
it.
The first E/P is this,
'KNOWS that clearing technology is a good thing and ought to be
continued.'
If you can feel this after every session then you know you have
received what you should have, and what is possible, with today's high
speed processing.
The second E/P pertains to your overall track in the universe
coming in, and your over all track getting out. It is the final E/P of
all E/P's, the final release state and the final reason for getting
auditing. It is the highest possible state that anyone can attain, and
it must be reflected in some measure in all lower states attained or
case gain made.
If you are not making this E/P in some measure in every session,
then you are not on the route out.
This E/P is,
'Willing, interested and able to be here, and able to remain.'
This might not at first seem very sensible. There is a lower
harmonic mimicry of this state called apathy. The person is so low tone
that they have no protest about being here, and they are able to remain
solely because they can't get out.
Barring this false acceptance of what one can not stand, the only
condition that anyone could ever complain about with regard to
themselves or their case can be summed up in one line,
'Unwilling to be here and unable to leave'.
The opposite of this of course is,
'Willing to be here, and able to remain or leave at will.'
Many people get into auditing because it promises to lead the way
out of this universe. Ron has said that this planet is an egress
terminal for this universe at this time. And right he is.
The problem is that people who are running on an unwillingness to
be here, figure they are going to get out and never come back. They
aren't sure how they got here in the first place, but they don't care as
long as they get out and don't ever have to think about it again.
That's called ELSE-WHERE-NESS, or wanting to be elsewhere.
Now the fact's are a being chose to be here, so he had some reason
for coming in. Before he came in he was out, so he clearly had free
choice in the matter. Therefore the address of auditing MUST be towards
recovering for the individual why he chose to come in, why he WANTED to
to be here.
Once he has that he can get out.
Outness INCLUDES, no IS, a willingness to come in.
Cuz that's what outness does, create and enter an inness.
So those who get into Scientology or auditing solely because they
want to get out, never get out. Clearing technology can never help you
get out of something except by helping you recover your willingness to
come in.
But then you CAN get out, so its ok.
However you might decide to stay in.
You can get out of anything you are happy you came in to.
Thus what we are looking for in auditing or any form of real help,
is a recovery of the ability to come in, and a willingness to come in
and STAY in for a while.
OUTness drips with the beauty and aesthetic of being IN.
no matter how horrible being in is.
There is an aesthetic to horrow that needs to be contacted and
mastered as Creative Artist again.
You will find that early on the track some beings were quite ready
to come in, but they had a hard time staying in. They kept waking up
out of their own dream, it was too ludicrous. This was actually a major
problem and resulted in the present situation where some people guard
very closely their inability to get out because they don't want to
leave.
But the only way they could stick themselves in, was to hide that
they had wanted to come in in the first place. Remembering where you
really are will wake you up out of any dream.
So they hid their choice and willingness in the matter of coming
in, making it SEEM like they only wanted out, all so that they could
stay in.
If this confuses you, good, that will help you stay in, which is
what you wanted.
There are too many naked girls here in this dream to want to leave.
Even if we all are hanging from crosses and them above us.
So the purpose of auditing is clearing up these confusions and
INABILITIES that a thetan has on the subject of coming in, staying in,
getting out, being unable to stay in, getting stuck out, getting stuck
in, etc., by auditing his DECISIONS to make it so and his reasons for
those decisions.
Part of this is handled on the Interiorization-Exteriorization
Rundown, but really the whole address of auditing pertains to it.
One is not only stuck in a body, but also a life, an identity, a
language, a set of abilities, a country, a planet, a solar system, a
galaxy, a universe and a time stream.
Each one had considerations of coming in, and getting out.
Each one started off with willingness to be here and not being able
to remain, decaying eventually down to unwillingness to be here and
unable to get out.
So look, if you are going to put down your hard earned cash for
auditing, please judge your auditing by sensible guidelines. If you are
the poorer for it after it is done, and I mean EACH SESSION, then don't
get more. Just go find another auditor or pick up the cans and solo.
You do have an E-meter, right?
Homer
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CHARGE AND POSTULATES
The purpose of clearing is to clear postulates.
The purpose of clearing postulates is to optimize game invention
and play and maximize action.
All created, non static, non native state, conditions in existence
are caused by postulates in present time.
Postulates are cause, by clearing postulates one clears case and
body conditions and allows the pc to rearrange his beingness and
becomingness.
Clearing charge is of secondary importance, as charge does not
cause conditions, postulates do. Charge is itself caused by two
postulates in opposition.
I want - I can not have
I do not want - I must have.
I want *AND* I do not want...
Clearing charge without clearing the postulates underlying the
charge will not clear conditions or free the pc, or if it does, the
underlying postulates will simply charge it right up again.
It is however almost impossible to clear charge without to some
extent making the pc aware of the postulates underlying the charge, but
the incident will not remove completely until the postulates are spotted
and blown.
Once a postulate in an area is blown, the pc is then free to place
other newer postulates in that area for the future.
Without postulates in place there can be no action or game play or
invention.
But one can not put a new postulate in place until the older
postulate is blown, one can not override older existing postulates with
newer different ones, that just creates more charge.
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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The purpose of clearing is to clear postulates.
The purpose of clearing postulates is to optimize game invention
and play and maximize action.
All created, non static, non native state, conditions in existence
are caused by postulates in present time.
Postulates are cause, by clearing postulates one clears case and
body conditions and allows the pc to rearrange his beingness and
becomingness.
Clearing charge is of secondary importance, as charge does not
cause conditions, postulates do. Charge is itself caused by two
postulates in opposition.
I want - I can not have
I do not want - I must have.
I want *AND* I do not want...
Clearing charge without clearing the postulates underlying the
charge will not clear conditions or free the pc, or if it does, the
underlying postulates will simply charge it right up again.
It is however almost impossible to clear charge without to some
extent making the pc aware of the postulates underlying the charge, but
the incident will not remove completely until the postulates are spotted
and blown.
Once a postulate in an area is blown, the pc is then free to place
other newer postulates in that area for the future.
Without postulates in place there can be no action or game play or
invention.
But one can not put a new postulate in place until the older
postulate is blown, one can not override older existing postulates with
newer different ones, that just creates more charge.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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SENIOR DATUM
If one looks at the R3R command,
"Move through to the end of the incident",
Then there is some meaning to the datum,
"The way out is the way through."
One certainly doesn't want the pc to move TO the end of
the incident bypassing everything in between, so in this sense
move through means to move to the next moment of time and the next
and the next touching all of them along the way.
On the other hand this is not the usual definition of
the word 'through', and can be misused out of context.
Moving 'through' things is certainly not the basic way
to as-is them.
If one has a mass for example, one as-ises it through permeation, one
goes IN to the mass, dons it, wears it, expands to its every corner and
beyond, fills it. One doesn't drill a hole in it and go through it
leaving it behind one.
Thus the senior datum is: the way to as-is anything is to go INTO it
fully and willingly.
One runs out-int by running the times the being went INTO things,
that gets him out. The way IN is the way out.
Even in running R3R, the idea is to get the pc to ENTER
the incident. Then when he is in the center of it, he can expand
to beginning and end and finally see his way out of it.
Thus "the way out is the way in" is a senior datum to
'the way out is the way through.'
Of course LRH didn't say this, so all of the above is wrong.
Everyone chooses their own fate.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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SENIOR DATUM
If one looks at the R3R command,
"Move through to the end of the incident",
Then there is some meaning to the datum,
"The way out is the way through."
One certainly doesn't want the pc to move TO the end of
the incident bypassing everything in between, so in this sense
move through means to move to the next moment of time and the next
and the next touching all of them along the way.
On the other hand this is not the usual definition of
the word 'through', and can be misused out of context.
Moving 'through' things is certainly not the basic way
to as-is them.
If one has a mass for example, one as-ises it through permeation, one
goes IN to the mass, dons it, wears it, expands to its every corner and
beyond, fills it. One doesn't drill a hole in it and go through it
leaving it behind one.
Thus the senior datum is: the way to as-is anything is to go INTO it
fully and willingly.
One runs out-int by running the times the being went INTO things,
that gets him out. The way IN is the way out.
Even in running R3R, the idea is to get the pc to ENTER
the incident. Then when he is in the center of it, he can expand
to beginning and end and finally see his way out of it.
Thus "the way out is the way in" is a senior datum to
'the way out is the way through.'
Of course LRH didn't say this, so all of the above is wrong.
Everyone chooses their own fate.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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SESSIO12 (fwd)
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SESSION NOTES
Run,
"Get the effort to Love."
"Get the effort to Not Love."
"Get the effort to Hate."
"Get the effort to Not Hate."
"Get the effort to Love and Hate."
"Get the effort to Love and Not Hate."
"Get the effort to Hate and Not Love."
"Get the effort to Not Hate and Not love."
Also run on Laugh and Cry.
Run Determinism:
"Who or what are you bound and determined to Create at all costs?"
"Who or what are you bound and determined to Destroy at all costs?"
Run on other items of choice, start, stop, continue, survive etc.
These are all late on the chain but will unravel the taffy to a
new level.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
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Run,
"Get the effort to Love."
"Get the effort to Not Love."
"Get the effort to Hate."
"Get the effort to Not Hate."
"Get the effort to Love and Hate."
"Get the effort to Love and Not Hate."
"Get the effort to Hate and Not Love."
"Get the effort to Not Hate and Not love."
Also run on Laugh and Cry.
Run Determinism:
"Who or what are you bound and determined to Create at all costs?"
"Who or what are you bound and determined to Destroy at all costs?"
Run on other items of choice, start, stop, continue, survive etc.
These are all late on the chain but will unravel the taffy to a
new level.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ADORE740 (fwd)
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TO MONICA
I am not an OT, and I have no OT powers and I don't want any.
In alt.clearing.technology Monica Pignotti <monica.pignotti.phd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting, Homer. So, in other words, you balk at proving your
> claims and slam anyone with a modicum of critical thinking skills as
> "PROVE IT CASES",
Our prime directive protocol demands that we prove to people that
THEY have OT powers and can use them, not that *I* have them.
In fact I wouldn't even try to help someone who didn't adhere
strongly to that directive. IF I were to help someone get back OT
powers, and they were to demonstrate them to others, the forces that be
would not only come after them, but come after me for being the source.
That would stop me from being able to help those in need.
Someone who can create OT's is a much more powerful weapon of war
than any particular OT that is created.
If you can't see the wisdom of this, I can't help you.
> but you are more than willing to take money from
> people gullible enough to beg you and pay you to teach them something
> you have not proven. I appreciate your honesty, though.
I insist on return survival for any service that I offer people,
particularly if it takes a lot of time, unless they are a charity case.
As do you.
You see we are aren't after the clueless, we don't show our wares
in our store front, too dangerous, not just for us, but for them.
We are after the people who already have a hint that they are OT in
an OT prison of their own making. They may have doubts, but they don't
need proof that something is up.
They suspect or outright know they are dreaming and want help
waking up.
The proof will improve their certainty that they are dreaming, and
from there it's mainly a matter of auditing out the intent to go to
sleep in a dream.
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
The 'I am proud to be MEST' cases are not ready to go lucid and
would be nothing but trouble if given the demonstration they seek,
ranging from total insanity to death. Maybe not all, but one is enough,
and since we can't tell who that one might be that goes crazy, the
directive forbids us to demonstrate to anyone.
I don't need to show someone that *I* am out of prison (which I am
not), to show them that they ARE in an OT prison, and that they put
themselves there, and that they can get themselves out.
That's a very valuable win, even though it is still below
'demonstrating' anything. Tone soars, one stops worrying about death,
ability to feel returns, and one's future becomes very different.
Its actually just a few short hours of processing and going over
the proof to do that.
From there on out, its a matter of actually getting them out of
prison. Now they might ask, well Homer if you can't fix your own car,
how do you expect to fix mine?
Fair question, and sometimes I won't be able to. But I have found
many others to be very accessible to their own cases where I am not.
Thus I find auditing others sometimes easier than auditing myself.
In fact I started out on this whole trek as a prove it case
meatball myself, and frankly we are just too far gone to help in this
life.
But most others that come to me and are accessible, never got that
low, and so they just want some help recovering what they already have.
For me its mostly a matter of permission and letting them itsa, and
recover in a safe space.
I tell them right up front though, no demonstrations of OT powers,
even to me, my body can't handle it.
Homer
> Monica
> Proud to be a PROVE IT CASE
>
>
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TO MONICA
I am not an OT, and I have no OT powers and I don't want any.
In alt.clearing.technology Monica Pignotti <monica.pignotti.phd@gmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting, Homer. So, in other words, you balk at proving your
> claims and slam anyone with a modicum of critical thinking skills as
> "PROVE IT CASES",
Our prime directive protocol demands that we prove to people that
THEY have OT powers and can use them, not that *I* have them.
In fact I wouldn't even try to help someone who didn't adhere
strongly to that directive. IF I were to help someone get back OT
powers, and they were to demonstrate them to others, the forces that be
would not only come after them, but come after me for being the source.
That would stop me from being able to help those in need.
Someone who can create OT's is a much more powerful weapon of war
than any particular OT that is created.
If you can't see the wisdom of this, I can't help you.
> but you are more than willing to take money from
> people gullible enough to beg you and pay you to teach them something
> you have not proven. I appreciate your honesty, though.
I insist on return survival for any service that I offer people,
particularly if it takes a lot of time, unless they are a charity case.
As do you.
You see we are aren't after the clueless, we don't show our wares
in our store front, too dangerous, not just for us, but for them.
We are after the people who already have a hint that they are OT in
an OT prison of their own making. They may have doubts, but they don't
need proof that something is up.
They suspect or outright know they are dreaming and want help
waking up.
The proof will improve their certainty that they are dreaming, and
from there it's mainly a matter of auditing out the intent to go to
sleep in a dream.
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
The 'I am proud to be MEST' cases are not ready to go lucid and
would be nothing but trouble if given the demonstration they seek,
ranging from total insanity to death. Maybe not all, but one is enough,
and since we can't tell who that one might be that goes crazy, the
directive forbids us to demonstrate to anyone.
I don't need to show someone that *I* am out of prison (which I am
not), to show them that they ARE in an OT prison, and that they put
themselves there, and that they can get themselves out.
That's a very valuable win, even though it is still below
'demonstrating' anything. Tone soars, one stops worrying about death,
ability to feel returns, and one's future becomes very different.
Its actually just a few short hours of processing and going over
the proof to do that.
From there on out, its a matter of actually getting them out of
prison. Now they might ask, well Homer if you can't fix your own car,
how do you expect to fix mine?
Fair question, and sometimes I won't be able to. But I have found
many others to be very accessible to their own cases where I am not.
Thus I find auditing others sometimes easier than auditing myself.
In fact I started out on this whole trek as a prove it case
meatball myself, and frankly we are just too far gone to help in this
life.
But most others that come to me and are accessible, never got that
low, and so they just want some help recovering what they already have.
For me its mostly a matter of permission and letting them itsa, and
recover in a safe space.
I tell them right up front though, no demonstrations of OT powers,
even to me, my body can't handle it.
Homer
> Monica
> Proud to be a PROVE IT CASE
>
>
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
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