BIRTH AND DEATH
WHAT is in restimulation is the past.
Loss, failure, reversal, departure, injury, crippling and death.
WHY it is in restimulation is the future, fear of it happening
again, with threats in present time making him sure it will happen in
the future.
The guy wouldn't be so bothered by the past if he weren't trying to
avoid a greater bother of like kind in the future.
HOW it is in restimulation is your present time operational
wizardry.
WHAT = the past.
HOW = the present.
WHY = the future.
It is quite obvious that the reason we are involved with bodies at
all is to take care of them, and give them a good life, due to incidents
that happened between us and bodies in the past, especially cripplings
and death.
So of course a being in a body in present time is going to be very
worried about death because that is just exactly what he doesn't want to
have happen again.
But between each death is a birth and an assumption of a body.
Just like any incident one needs to get the earlier beginning, and
the earlier beginning to being responsible for the death of a body,
either accidentally or intentionally, was being associated with them in
the first place.
Thus you go up to a body, squeeze it with love a little too hard,
it reacts with confusion and fear and dies on the spot.
I did this to a mouse once, held it in my hand and closed my
fingers around it, and gave it a *GENTLE* little squeeze.
*THE MOUSE* had this enormous kick back reaction overestimating the
danger it was in, basically I scared it to death.
It was quite amazing, the thing just died in my hand, and left me
feeling, well there are no words to describe it, unintentionally
*RESPONSIBLE*.
Saddest thing, this little mouse dead in my hand. It was SO
counter to my intention.
So a being does this to a body, then finds another body to take
care of to make up for the prior death. Thus he *ASSOCIATES* with the
new body, either loosely, or tightly by entering it, in order to control
it, guide it, give it a better life than it would have gotten alone.
And yes bodies are very grateful for being taken care of properly
by a wise thetan, but a thetan who is sub death on the tone scale trying
to make up for a past body death is not in good enough shape to take
care of anything, let alone a body.
Especially once the thetan is so far gone on the subject of taking
care of bodies that he BECOMES the body, live once, die once, that's it
bud. Its an effort to force being careful on himself.
Knowing one is immortal leads to lackadaisical control over fragile
items and leads to unintended accidents. So one figures that pretending
to mortal will put the fear of God into him and keep him on the straight
and narrow.
Bye bye happiness, joy and laughter however.
So the guy is all worried about upcoming death in his present body
and the deaths of others, and he's mortal as meat, so its all very
serious to him, and he wants to know how to audit it.
Well certainly auditing out a past death will get him over his
mortality fast enough, and he will see WHY he has a body in the first
place and why he is so worried about future deaths.
But between that last death and his present body was a BIRTH.
And an assumption, a DONNING of the body as beingness and identity.
He no longer is in association with bodies, he no longer is
having, owning, controlling, protecting bodies, he IS a body.
That's at BEING OBJECTS down on the tone scale.
When the horse rancher neighs at you, you know you have a problem.
Now we don't have to run out the engram of BIRTH, because that's a
done to the body by the mother, but we do have to run out the engram of
the assumption, because the thetan took absolute control over the body
and submerged its very self determinism into a mausoleum. He isn't
going to let that body do a thing or think a thought for itself.
*HE IS CRUSHING THE BODY'S OWN CONTROL CENTERS OUT OF EXISTENCE*
It's a very deep rock solid engram, and there is no auditing
outside of it, meaning the pc is not going to go earlier to a prior
death through that wall of charge on the assumption.
He committed a HUGE overt act against the body and all of life by
becoming a body. He may be overjoyed at the opportunity to make up for
his sorry miserable past, but at what cost to the body and life around
him.
He has it justified up the wazoo.
And the body *LOVES AND HATES* him for it.
Remember ANDS run where ORS won't.
The body wants to be taken care of, but not that way. Put
yourselves in its shoes. Oh right, you already are.
As long a the preclear thinks that birth and the assumption are a
good thing, and is using both as a solution to a prior death, the
preclear is himself sub death, that is sub distaster, inactuality,
delusion, hysteria, catatonia, shock and oblivion.
The disaster was the prior body's life and death.
The inactuality is the donning of a new body, BECOMING IT. If you
ARE a body, you certainly haven't lived before.
The delusion is the preclear thinks he IS a body.
Hysteria is caused by the effort to ENTER AND LEAVE a body at the
same time.
Catatonia is letting the world raise you.
And Oblivion is your 9 to 5 life being a righteous asshole.
The whole package is being sub death, because the being is no
longer being a thetan AT body death or even Pity on the tone scale, he's
being a BODY, at being objects on the tone scale.
Being sub death, the preclear won't be able to run prior deaths,
except dub in.
He will run them as a Black V.
Let me tell you, a Black V never ran anything of worth.
They will tell you they have, but they are monster food, every one.
Black V's are for the birds, bird food has more free theta than a
Black V.
There is full 360 viso at the moment of the incident your preclear
needs to run.
He will first get 360 on the incident he needs to run, then he will
get 360 on his entire bank. No worse hell than to be impinged upon by
every moment of unconfronted unwillingness the preclear and all his BT's
have accumulated over trillions of years.
Then he will get 360 on the environment from inside his head.
It will be crystal clear, as if etched in eternal glass, and will
be SMALLER than the visio presented by the body.
There will be no need to get out of the body at all, because he
won't be impinging on the body at that moment. It won't matter WHERE he
is, he will still be able to see everything crystal clear.
WANTING to get out of your body is actually sub death apathy about
being free of your body, where you won't care if you are out of it or in
it.
Then he will be able to pull out of the body without trying to take
his body's viso with him.
He's got his body's visio confused with his own, and he is
literally tring to rip the front of his face of and take it with him
when he tries to exteriorize. This creates somatics.
Once he has his own visio back, he can let go of the body's visio
which is big and crude.
From the body's viewpoint the universe is designed to look
overwhelmingly HUGE.
From the thetan's viewpoint the universe is big but it ain't THAT
big.
The thetan is natively a small crystal ball of clear vision, when
he enters a body he is suddenly confronted by this HUGE TV screen WAY
bigger than he is, which is providing the body's visio to him.
Once exterior, the thetan can change his sense of size, but mostly
not by making himself bigger, but by fitting the entire universe within
him.
The first time a thetan walks into a body he is shocked by how BIG
the view screen of life is, like walking into an IMAX movie house with
100 foot surround sound screens.
When he gets out of the body, he is much happier being small with
the entire universe within him, rather than the other way around, a huge
universe with him as a body lost inside it.
Association, sex, birth, owning, controlling, protecting, and
assuming/donning bodies are the earlier beginning to death and
becoming sub death as a thetan.
Past, present and future, are what, how and why.
Fail to audit at your own risk.
Homer
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I spent 4 hours of my extremely precious time this afternoon
writing this.
If this posting benefits you, you owe me an act of personal
investment in my and your future by showing this posting to someone
else.
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SUN GOD
Although the One True God of Adore is the God of J.E.M, (Joy in
Eternal Miracles), Adorians also worship the Sun God Ra, as an emissary
of Jem.
This is about Ra.
I can hear someone asking me,
"Homer is money all Adorians care about?"
Yes.
But one has to take a look at what Adore's viewpoint really is.
Life consists of consumption and production. You can't take a
breath without consuming fuel and oxygen and producing exhaust and
carbon dioxide.
The Sun/Earth system is like a gigantic rechargable battery.
The primary chemicals involved is the cycle between Carbon and
Oxygen, and CO2.
All chemical reactions both absorb energy and release energy at the
same time.
Endothermic reactions are those that absorb more energy than they
release.
Exothermic reactions are those that release more energy than they
absorb.
It takes a tremendous amount of energy to tear apart the CO2
molecule into Carbon and Oxygen. When they finally fly apart they
release some energy so you get some of it back, but it takes much more
to pull them apart than you get back, so this is endothermic.
In otherwords Carbon and Oxygen are in a higher stored energy state
when they are apart than when they are together as CO2.
On the other hand it doesn't take a lot of energy to bring Carbon
and Oxygen back together again, and when they do they release a lot more
energy back into the world than it took to start them combining. This
is exothermic.
The amount of energy released by rejoining carbon and oxygen is so
much more than the energy necessary to start the reaction in the first
place, that the reaction is self sustaining. If you put a match to wood
(carbon), it will burn under its own heat.
Endothermic reactions in general will not do this.
BUT YOU HAD TO HAVE AN ENDOTHERMIC REACTION BEFORE YOU COULD HAVE
AN EXOTHERMIC REACTION!
You have to store energy in an endothermic reaction before you can
release it in an exothermic reaction.
The two processes exactly balance. What is stored during the
endothermic part is released during the exothermic part.
When carbon and oxygen burn and rejoin into CO2, they release just
as much energy as they absorbed when they were split!
In this sense the Carbon Oxygen cycle acts like a rechargable
battery. You pump energy into CO2 splitting it up into Carbon and
Oxygen, and later you come along and release that energy by setting fire
to the Carbon in an Oxygen atmosphere, recombining them into CO2.
The Sun/Earth system acts like a huge Carbon Oxygen cycle
rechargable battery.
The recharging/production cycle is driven by the Sun, and the
decharging/consumption cycle is driven by fire of one kind or another,
otherwise known as oxidation, whether fast or slow (as in rust).
In a highly simplified view, energy from the Sun hits the free CO2
in the ground and the air, splitting it into Carbon and Oxygen, and thus
'pushing' plants up out of the ground.
The body of the plant is the Carbon that has been freed from the
Oxygen, and the atmosphere around the plant is the Oxygen that was freed
from the Carbon.
A tremendous amount of potential sun energy is stored in this
SEPARATION of Carbon and Oxygen.
The energy thus stored is released again when fire burns the plants
or animals eat them.
As plants are pushed into existence by the Sun, Oxygen fills the
atmosphere.
When the Oxygen content of the air gets too great, the slightest
lightening strike will create a forest fire the likes of which you have
never seen. When the Oxygen content drops down, the fires go out, and
so the cycle repeats itself.
This is in part why the Oxygen concentration in the atmosphere has
stabilized at around 30 percent, lightning keeps it so.
Animals do the same thing to plants that fire does.
By eating plants, animals bring Oxygen in the air together with the
Carbon in the plants, igniting them with an internal chemical match so
to speak, and the result is CO2 released back into the atmosphere and
the ground, releasing the stored heat and usable sun energy which the
animal can then use to do useful work.
The animal kingdom is a slow fire to the plant kingdom.
This cycle of Sun -> Plants -> Animals -> Sun happens over and over
again, pumped by the Sun.
OK, so what does money have to do with this?
In this model, value is defined as stored energy tempered by the
usefulness of that stored energy.
In general there is no value where there is no energy, for where
there is no energy there is nothing.
Sometimes however some forms of energy can be more harmful than
helpful, in which case the absence of harmful energy can be of greater
value than its presence.
Useful vaccuums are like this.
Thus a little helpful energy is of more value than a lot
of harmful energy.
Helpful energy has positive value, and harmful energy has negative
value.
Energy from the Sun is stored in many objects on the planet, in
general it starts with plants, but ends up in many different forms
afterwards.
The form of energy is as important as the amount of energy stored.
For example there is energy stored in both a battery and a stick of
dynamite. However the energy in a stick of dynamite would be totally
useless and even counterproductive to someone wanting to light a
flashlight.
Forms of energy can be converted into each other, but usually at
some expense and expenditure of the energy to be converted.
This is called conversion efficiency.
For example, the energy in the dynamite might be converted to
energy in a battery but that might take more energy in time, trouble and
materials, to do the conversion than it was worth.
Energy that is fully expended is called entropy, it is
essentially energy that is no longer stored in any useful way.
Anti-entropy is energy that is stored in a useful manner ready to
go on notice to produce useful work.
Both Entropy and Anti-entropy, in this definition, is relative to
the user who values the energy.
Energy that is totally dispersed and energy that is stored in
useless forms are both forms of entropy.
In this sense, entropy is defined relative to a person's need and
use for energy and relative to their ability to convert it into a useful
form. A stick of dynamite would be a form of entropy to someone in
desperate need of a flashlight.
However if he goes at it just right, he might get some useful light
out of the stick of dynamite! :)
Sun light starts off highly concentrated, ends up on earth as
plants, gets eaten by animals which may or may not do useful work, and
finally gets radiated as heat which goes off into the cosmos where it is
not generally locally useful again.
Notice however that even this radiated energy might one day hit
another planet and help push a plant into existence thus becoming
locally useful again on that planet.
But the vast majority of expended energy simply goes off into space
and becomes part of the background radiation which does little good to
anyone.
This process is the River of Light.
Once the Sun burns out entirely, the cycle of plant and animal ends
for the time being.
Presumably all the entropic energy radiated into space at the end
of the cycle gets collected back together again during the next
contraction phase of the universe leading to the next Big Bang.
Recent evidence indicates there may never be a contraction phase,
in which case the expended energy will simply spread out and become
thinner and thinner for the rest of time.
Within this conceptual matrix, animals form a very particular kind
of game. They are not 'pushed' into existence by the Sun, the way
plants are. Animals must consume fuel that has already been pushed into
storage in order to survive. In this sense animals are miners (or
harvesters) for they need to mine fuel in order to have fuel.
But they need to have fuel in order to mine fuel!
Every effort an animal uses to mine fuel, consumes fuel.
Therefore an animal must be given an initial alotment of fuel to
begin his foraging day. This is done at the beginning of life through
investment by the mother or father in feeding and growing the child.
If an animal consumes more fuel than it mines, it eventually runs
out of fuel and dies.
(Some animals think they are plants by the way, they go out in the
sun, and expect it to push them into existence. They usually end up
living off of other's assets.)
Mining has to do with exothermic reactions. The action of mining
is the action of investing a small amount of energy in the vast sea of
stored energy in the Sun/Earth system, and getting an exothermic return
out of it. One then has more fuel to live another day, plus some
excess. In this way the animal increases its net worth.
Material Net Worth consists of four things to an animal.
1.) Fuel on hand which it owns and can consume in sow/reap
investment cycles.
2.) Capital equipment in working order that the animal can power
with that fuel in order to indulge in sow/reap investment cycles. The
primary capital mining equipment owned by an animal is its body, and its
fuel storage facilities.
3.) The mine field that the animal has access to in which to sow
and reap exothermic reactions.
4.) Knowledge, talent and skill born of experience, to engage in
sow/reap cycles. This may seem non material in nature, but a book with
knowledge in it has a greater positive value than a book with nothing in
it, so the arrangement of matter encoding hard won knowledge in a
decodable way is definitely a form of anti-entropy assets.
The animal plants a seed of corn. Through endothermicity the Sun
pushes it into an ear of corn with 100 seeds. The animal reaps the
corn, puts some away in his fuel house, eats the rest of it and through
exothermicity releases the stored sunlight into useful energy which it
can use to do more useful work, the next day.
Useful work is defined as succesful mining.
The animal must burn some fuel already in his system to ignite the
newly eaten corn in his stomach, but he gets much more out of it than
the small amount he needs to start the fire.
The animal in fact must burn some fuel just to take in a breath in
order to sweep in the components of his next combustion cycle (Oxygen).
If he doesn't have the energy left to take in that breath or to ignite
the combustion cycle, he is dead.
The animal that has a lot of fuel in his warehouse (money in the
bank), but no capital equipment to mine with or mine field to ply his
trade to, is a sinking ship. He may be very wealthy, have a high net
worth, but the rats on his boat will be packing their bags shortly,
and looking for the nearest rope.
This is because the absence of or inability to buy capital mining
equipment, renders his net worth of negative value to himself, as he
can't use it himself to survive.
The animal that has a lot of capital equipment to work with, but no
fuel, is out of luck from the word go because he can't make a move
without an initial alotment of fuel.
The animal that has a lot of stored fuel and capital equipment but
no mine field to get more, is also a sinking ship, for he will spin his
wheels all day long, with no return. This is the guy planting his seeds
in a toxic waste dump.
Thus true 'wealth' to an animal is to have a vast mining field that
is easily minable, working equipment and enough fuel to turn an
exothermic profit by the end of the day. By far and away the mine field
is the most important of the three. You can always get loans or
investments of fuel and capital equipment from others if you find a good
mine field, but without the mine field you might as well give it up now.
Thus if an animal is not doing well, the first thing you want to do
is see what kind of mine field he is trying to mine.
It is pretty clear from this model that the animal is sort of on a
rat race wheel. Every breath he takes consumes some of his precious
joules that he has stored in his fuel house. If, after eating, he does
not put those released joules to useful work, meaning mining more fuel,
he will eventually run out of fuel and die. Thus any animal that is not
doing useful work is headed for the grave.
Useful work by the way doesn't necessarily mean going out and
running around doing things, it can mean sleeping and digesting your
food or taking a rest to allow regeneration or indulging in play to
increase one's skills. Even art is a form of useful energy.
This is all useful work. But if the amount of useful work done
during a day is less than the amount of fuel consumed, then the fuel
tanks will be just that much lower at the end of the day.
That's called negative Return On Investment.
Total Net Worth lower at the end of the day.
Thus for an animal, sow/reap investment cycles in the natural
exothermicity of the Sun/Earth system is the order of the day, they are
in fact an ethical mandate, as the wages of sin are death.
So yes, all Adorians care about is money. Money is merely a
statement of personal net worth, which includes personal fuel in the
bank, extant useful captial equipment on hand and vast mining fields
that are easily accessible and large return on investments for every
sow/reap engaged upon.
That a moral mandate you see. God gave you verdant fields
to mine, a healthy body and mind, and loving parents to stuff you
full of fuel when you couldn't do it yourself.
The only sin then is profligation, not maximizing returns on
investments.
Profligation means, in this context, consuming more than
you produce, which uses up your own stores and then others who are
foolish enough to invest in your.
There is a place for charity, but only AFTER you have produced a
return on investment, you never give part of your principle away unless
it is someone who is going to also produce a return on investment,
with you.
Certainly never give part of your principle away to first in liners
who will merely consume it and produce nothing.
It has little to do with ownership per se, and more to do with
successful living in the long term, of which ownership is a small part.
Ownership is merely rights to control, namely who makes the
decision, how much to invest and what to invest it in.
Although it is easy to fall into the trap of thinking that money in
the bank, a personal tractor outside in the yard and 3 acres of land is
some kind of affluence, one has to rememeber the over all scene.
The ultimate congolmerate of fuel stores, capital machinery and
viable mine fields is civilization itself. Thus investing in a kid, who
will invest in his kids, who will invest in his kids, may not produce an
immediate return the way selling a loaf of bread for 2 drachmas will,
but it is never the less an investment in your own future, as one day
the benefits of that tree will bear fruit and you will eat thereof. We
don't live but once.
When looked at this way, one's net worth is a much grander thing
than what you report to the tax department.
Learning to invest is the grander scheme is a sign of a true
investor and a real winner in life.
That includes investment of fuel, equipment, and mine fields, along
with time, skill and knowledge.
The Sun God Ra smiles upon those who invest in the grand scheme of
things to produce the greatest return for the greatest number without
sacrificing self to starvation which produces nothing for anyone.
His smile in affluence is the return you get.
You can count on it.
Homer
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This posting is not free.
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SUN GOD
Although the One True God of Adore is the God of J.E.M, (Joy in
Eternal Miracles), Adorians also worship the Sun God Ra, as an emissary
of Jem.
This is about Ra.
I can hear someone asking me,
"Homer is money all Adorians care about?"
Yes.
But one has to take a look at what Adore's viewpoint really is.
Life consists of consumption and production. You can't take a
breath without consuming fuel and oxygen and producing exhaust and
carbon dioxide.
The Sun/Earth system is like a gigantic rechargable battery.
The primary chemicals involved is the cycle between Carbon and
Oxygen, and CO2.
All chemical reactions both absorb energy and release energy at the
same time.
Endothermic reactions are those that absorb more energy than they
release.
Exothermic reactions are those that release more energy than they
absorb.
It takes a tremendous amount of energy to tear apart the CO2
molecule into Carbon and Oxygen. When they finally fly apart they
release some energy so you get some of it back, but it takes much more
to pull them apart than you get back, so this is endothermic.
In otherwords Carbon and Oxygen are in a higher stored energy state
when they are apart than when they are together as CO2.
On the other hand it doesn't take a lot of energy to bring Carbon
and Oxygen back together again, and when they do they release a lot more
energy back into the world than it took to start them combining. This
is exothermic.
The amount of energy released by rejoining carbon and oxygen is so
much more than the energy necessary to start the reaction in the first
place, that the reaction is self sustaining. If you put a match to wood
(carbon), it will burn under its own heat.
Endothermic reactions in general will not do this.
BUT YOU HAD TO HAVE AN ENDOTHERMIC REACTION BEFORE YOU COULD HAVE
AN EXOTHERMIC REACTION!
You have to store energy in an endothermic reaction before you can
release it in an exothermic reaction.
The two processes exactly balance. What is stored during the
endothermic part is released during the exothermic part.
When carbon and oxygen burn and rejoin into CO2, they release just
as much energy as they absorbed when they were split!
In this sense the Carbon Oxygen cycle acts like a rechargable
battery. You pump energy into CO2 splitting it up into Carbon and
Oxygen, and later you come along and release that energy by setting fire
to the Carbon in an Oxygen atmosphere, recombining them into CO2.
The Sun/Earth system acts like a huge Carbon Oxygen cycle
rechargable battery.
The recharging/production cycle is driven by the Sun, and the
decharging/consumption cycle is driven by fire of one kind or another,
otherwise known as oxidation, whether fast or slow (as in rust).
In a highly simplified view, energy from the Sun hits the free CO2
in the ground and the air, splitting it into Carbon and Oxygen, and thus
'pushing' plants up out of the ground.
The body of the plant is the Carbon that has been freed from the
Oxygen, and the atmosphere around the plant is the Oxygen that was freed
from the Carbon.
A tremendous amount of potential sun energy is stored in this
SEPARATION of Carbon and Oxygen.
The energy thus stored is released again when fire burns the plants
or animals eat them.
As plants are pushed into existence by the Sun, Oxygen fills the
atmosphere.
When the Oxygen content of the air gets too great, the slightest
lightening strike will create a forest fire the likes of which you have
never seen. When the Oxygen content drops down, the fires go out, and
so the cycle repeats itself.
This is in part why the Oxygen concentration in the atmosphere has
stabilized at around 30 percent, lightning keeps it so.
Animals do the same thing to plants that fire does.
By eating plants, animals bring Oxygen in the air together with the
Carbon in the plants, igniting them with an internal chemical match so
to speak, and the result is CO2 released back into the atmosphere and
the ground, releasing the stored heat and usable sun energy which the
animal can then use to do useful work.
The animal kingdom is a slow fire to the plant kingdom.
This cycle of Sun -> Plants -> Animals -> Sun happens over and over
again, pumped by the Sun.
OK, so what does money have to do with this?
In this model, value is defined as stored energy tempered by the
usefulness of that stored energy.
In general there is no value where there is no energy, for where
there is no energy there is nothing.
Sometimes however some forms of energy can be more harmful than
helpful, in which case the absence of harmful energy can be of greater
value than its presence.
Useful vaccuums are like this.
Thus a little helpful energy is of more value than a lot
of harmful energy.
Helpful energy has positive value, and harmful energy has negative
value.
Energy from the Sun is stored in many objects on the planet, in
general it starts with plants, but ends up in many different forms
afterwards.
The form of energy is as important as the amount of energy stored.
For example there is energy stored in both a battery and a stick of
dynamite. However the energy in a stick of dynamite would be totally
useless and even counterproductive to someone wanting to light a
flashlight.
Forms of energy can be converted into each other, but usually at
some expense and expenditure of the energy to be converted.
This is called conversion efficiency.
For example, the energy in the dynamite might be converted to
energy in a battery but that might take more energy in time, trouble and
materials, to do the conversion than it was worth.
Energy that is fully expended is called entropy, it is
essentially energy that is no longer stored in any useful way.
Anti-entropy is energy that is stored in a useful manner ready to
go on notice to produce useful work.
Both Entropy and Anti-entropy, in this definition, is relative to
the user who values the energy.
Energy that is totally dispersed and energy that is stored in
useless forms are both forms of entropy.
In this sense, entropy is defined relative to a person's need and
use for energy and relative to their ability to convert it into a useful
form. A stick of dynamite would be a form of entropy to someone in
desperate need of a flashlight.
However if he goes at it just right, he might get some useful light
out of the stick of dynamite! :)
Sun light starts off highly concentrated, ends up on earth as
plants, gets eaten by animals which may or may not do useful work, and
finally gets radiated as heat which goes off into the cosmos where it is
not generally locally useful again.
Notice however that even this radiated energy might one day hit
another planet and help push a plant into existence thus becoming
locally useful again on that planet.
But the vast majority of expended energy simply goes off into space
and becomes part of the background radiation which does little good to
anyone.
This process is the River of Light.
Once the Sun burns out entirely, the cycle of plant and animal ends
for the time being.
Presumably all the entropic energy radiated into space at the end
of the cycle gets collected back together again during the next
contraction phase of the universe leading to the next Big Bang.
Recent evidence indicates there may never be a contraction phase,
in which case the expended energy will simply spread out and become
thinner and thinner for the rest of time.
Within this conceptual matrix, animals form a very particular kind
of game. They are not 'pushed' into existence by the Sun, the way
plants are. Animals must consume fuel that has already been pushed into
storage in order to survive. In this sense animals are miners (or
harvesters) for they need to mine fuel in order to have fuel.
But they need to have fuel in order to mine fuel!
Every effort an animal uses to mine fuel, consumes fuel.
Therefore an animal must be given an initial alotment of fuel to
begin his foraging day. This is done at the beginning of life through
investment by the mother or father in feeding and growing the child.
If an animal consumes more fuel than it mines, it eventually runs
out of fuel and dies.
(Some animals think they are plants by the way, they go out in the
sun, and expect it to push them into existence. They usually end up
living off of other's assets.)
Mining has to do with exothermic reactions. The action of mining
is the action of investing a small amount of energy in the vast sea of
stored energy in the Sun/Earth system, and getting an exothermic return
out of it. One then has more fuel to live another day, plus some
excess. In this way the animal increases its net worth.
Material Net Worth consists of four things to an animal.
1.) Fuel on hand which it owns and can consume in sow/reap
investment cycles.
2.) Capital equipment in working order that the animal can power
with that fuel in order to indulge in sow/reap investment cycles. The
primary capital mining equipment owned by an animal is its body, and its
fuel storage facilities.
3.) The mine field that the animal has access to in which to sow
and reap exothermic reactions.
4.) Knowledge, talent and skill born of experience, to engage in
sow/reap cycles. This may seem non material in nature, but a book with
knowledge in it has a greater positive value than a book with nothing in
it, so the arrangement of matter encoding hard won knowledge in a
decodable way is definitely a form of anti-entropy assets.
The animal plants a seed of corn. Through endothermicity the Sun
pushes it into an ear of corn with 100 seeds. The animal reaps the
corn, puts some away in his fuel house, eats the rest of it and through
exothermicity releases the stored sunlight into useful energy which it
can use to do more useful work, the next day.
Useful work is defined as succesful mining.
The animal must burn some fuel already in his system to ignite the
newly eaten corn in his stomach, but he gets much more out of it than
the small amount he needs to start the fire.
The animal in fact must burn some fuel just to take in a breath in
order to sweep in the components of his next combustion cycle (Oxygen).
If he doesn't have the energy left to take in that breath or to ignite
the combustion cycle, he is dead.
The animal that has a lot of fuel in his warehouse (money in the
bank), but no capital equipment to mine with or mine field to ply his
trade to, is a sinking ship. He may be very wealthy, have a high net
worth, but the rats on his boat will be packing their bags shortly,
and looking for the nearest rope.
This is because the absence of or inability to buy capital mining
equipment, renders his net worth of negative value to himself, as he
can't use it himself to survive.
The animal that has a lot of capital equipment to work with, but no
fuel, is out of luck from the word go because he can't make a move
without an initial alotment of fuel.
The animal that has a lot of stored fuel and capital equipment but
no mine field to get more, is also a sinking ship, for he will spin his
wheels all day long, with no return. This is the guy planting his seeds
in a toxic waste dump.
Thus true 'wealth' to an animal is to have a vast mining field that
is easily minable, working equipment and enough fuel to turn an
exothermic profit by the end of the day. By far and away the mine field
is the most important of the three. You can always get loans or
investments of fuel and capital equipment from others if you find a good
mine field, but without the mine field you might as well give it up now.
Thus if an animal is not doing well, the first thing you want to do
is see what kind of mine field he is trying to mine.
It is pretty clear from this model that the animal is sort of on a
rat race wheel. Every breath he takes consumes some of his precious
joules that he has stored in his fuel house. If, after eating, he does
not put those released joules to useful work, meaning mining more fuel,
he will eventually run out of fuel and die. Thus any animal that is not
doing useful work is headed for the grave.
Useful work by the way doesn't necessarily mean going out and
running around doing things, it can mean sleeping and digesting your
food or taking a rest to allow regeneration or indulging in play to
increase one's skills. Even art is a form of useful energy.
This is all useful work. But if the amount of useful work done
during a day is less than the amount of fuel consumed, then the fuel
tanks will be just that much lower at the end of the day.
That's called negative Return On Investment.
Total Net Worth lower at the end of the day.
Thus for an animal, sow/reap investment cycles in the natural
exothermicity of the Sun/Earth system is the order of the day, they are
in fact an ethical mandate, as the wages of sin are death.
So yes, all Adorians care about is money. Money is merely a
statement of personal net worth, which includes personal fuel in the
bank, extant useful captial equipment on hand and vast mining fields
that are easily accessible and large return on investments for every
sow/reap engaged upon.
That a moral mandate you see. God gave you verdant fields
to mine, a healthy body and mind, and loving parents to stuff you
full of fuel when you couldn't do it yourself.
The only sin then is profligation, not maximizing returns on
investments.
Profligation means, in this context, consuming more than
you produce, which uses up your own stores and then others who are
foolish enough to invest in your.
There is a place for charity, but only AFTER you have produced a
return on investment, you never give part of your principle away unless
it is someone who is going to also produce a return on investment,
with you.
Certainly never give part of your principle away to first in liners
who will merely consume it and produce nothing.
It has little to do with ownership per se, and more to do with
successful living in the long term, of which ownership is a small part.
Ownership is merely rights to control, namely who makes the
decision, how much to invest and what to invest it in.
Although it is easy to fall into the trap of thinking that money in
the bank, a personal tractor outside in the yard and 3 acres of land is
some kind of affluence, one has to rememeber the over all scene.
The ultimate congolmerate of fuel stores, capital machinery and
viable mine fields is civilization itself. Thus investing in a kid, who
will invest in his kids, who will invest in his kids, may not produce an
immediate return the way selling a loaf of bread for 2 drachmas will,
but it is never the less an investment in your own future, as one day
the benefits of that tree will bear fruit and you will eat thereof. We
don't live but once.
When looked at this way, one's net worth is a much grander thing
than what you report to the tax department.
Learning to invest is the grander scheme is a sign of a true
investor and a real winner in life.
That includes investment of fuel, equipment, and mine fields, along
with time, skill and knowledge.
The Sun God Ra smiles upon those who invest in the grand scheme of
things to produce the greatest return for the greatest number without
sacrificing self to starvation which produces nothing for anyone.
His smile in affluence is the return you get.
You can count on it.
Homer
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STATIC AND SPACETIME
What exists is the STATIC and the illusions it creates WITHIN ITS
OWN SELF, its own fabric, its own substrate.
The static is like a Liquid Crystal Display screen that can
either be clear or colored. Nothing is created when it turns colored,
the same LCD screen is still there, but a small part of it has been
polarized to produce colored rather than clear.
The static can not create spacetime, it can only create within
itself the CONSCIOUS EXPERIENCE OF SPACETIME, which itself does not
take up any spacetime. The experience of spacetime exists in the
fabric of the static, which experience takes up no spacetime.
Static colored to look like spacetime is still just static. It
has no spacetime!
Mockups of space do not take up any space!
Mockups of time do not take up any time!
Dig it and don't leave it.
The conscious experience of spacetime results from a polarization
of the fabric of the static from a no consciousness-of anything, to a
consciousness-of spacetime.
SPACETIME HAS NOT BEEN CREATED, THE STATIC HAS BEEN POLARIZED
WITHIN ITSELF FROM SLEEP TO DREAMING, from clear to colored, from non
consciousness-of, to consciousness-of.
Sleepers call dreamtime the 'waking state'.
In truth, the most awake you could be is the Big Snooze, no
dreams at all.
This is really really important. If you don't get it, you won't
ever win or go OT.
The static NEVER creates anything at all except patterns in
itself, it merely changes the fabric of ITSELF to bring about the
conscious experience of "creations".
When static creates a conscious experience of brick and a
conscious experience of wood, they may LOOK like they are made of
different materials, but in fact they are both made of the same stuff,
colored self luminous static.
MEST IS MERELY STATIC COLORED TO LOOK LIKE SPACE AND TIME.
No actual space or time was ever made.
When you look at MEST you are looking at static which has been
color painted to look like MEST!
MEST is the static glowing in the void.
Native state is the static turned off for the night, the Big
Snooze.
Homer
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STATIC AND SPACETIME
What exists is the STATIC and the illusions it creates WITHIN ITS
OWN SELF, its own fabric, its own substrate.
The static is like a Liquid Crystal Display screen that can
either be clear or colored. Nothing is created when it turns colored,
the same LCD screen is still there, but a small part of it has been
polarized to produce colored rather than clear.
The static can not create spacetime, it can only create within
itself the CONSCIOUS EXPERIENCE OF SPACETIME, which itself does not
take up any spacetime. The experience of spacetime exists in the
fabric of the static, which experience takes up no spacetime.
Static colored to look like spacetime is still just static. It
has no spacetime!
Mockups of space do not take up any space!
Mockups of time do not take up any time!
Dig it and don't leave it.
The conscious experience of spacetime results from a polarization
of the fabric of the static from a no consciousness-of anything, to a
consciousness-of spacetime.
SPACETIME HAS NOT BEEN CREATED, THE STATIC HAS BEEN POLARIZED
WITHIN ITSELF FROM SLEEP TO DREAMING, from clear to colored, from non
consciousness-of, to consciousness-of.
Sleepers call dreamtime the 'waking state'.
In truth, the most awake you could be is the Big Snooze, no
dreams at all.
This is really really important. If you don't get it, you won't
ever win or go OT.
The static NEVER creates anything at all except patterns in
itself, it merely changes the fabric of ITSELF to bring about the
conscious experience of "creations".
When static creates a conscious experience of brick and a
conscious experience of wood, they may LOOK like they are made of
different materials, but in fact they are both made of the same stuff,
colored self luminous static.
MEST IS MERELY STATIC COLORED TO LOOK LIKE SPACE AND TIME.
No actual space or time was ever made.
When you look at MEST you are looking at static which has been
color painted to look like MEST!
MEST is the static glowing in the void.
Native state is the static turned off for the night, the Big
Snooze.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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JEANETTE ROGERS (HERE-I-YAM@email.msn.com) wrote:
>Hi Homer,
>I'm afraid much of the above is over my head. I couldn't quite relate to
>it.
Sure you can, remember a time you 'will *NEVER* forgive' someone.
That's a forever and thus a dramatization, it brings DRAMA to a
situation rather than peace, vanishment and void.
>But one thing for sure, there definitely is something wrong with "forever."
>It seems to be a bit late on the track to be really basic, more like a 3rd
>postulate or something.
It's an effort to make sure something NEVER happens again, or
ALWAYS happens again, its an effort to create a permanent PERSISTENCE.
Run
"What would it be ok to have be for just a while."
"What would it not be ok to have be for just a while."
>Or, to put it another way, "forever" is possibly all the more devious
>because it harmonizes with (or is a mockery of) a theta truth.
Yes, it is an effort to bring the non temporal eternality of
static into being as a termporal eternity of MEST.
Something forever is hell forever.
Nothing forever is death forever.
Cycling between something and nothing, manifest and unmanifest
forever is "fair chosen peace via hell and high water".
In other words you can (willingly) have something as long as you
can have nothing, and you can have nothing as long as you can have
something, but if you HAVE to have something forever, then you begin
to seek nothing forever, and if you HAVE to have nothing forever you
begin to seek something forever, and see saw between the two
endlessly, life after life.
Hell forever - > Death Forever -> Hell forever -> Death forever
Meatball -> Christian -> Meatball -> Christian.
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JEANETTE ROGERS (HERE-I-YAM@email.msn.com) wrote:
>Hi Homer,
>I'm afraid much of the above is over my head. I couldn't quite relate to
>it.
Sure you can, remember a time you 'will *NEVER* forgive' someone.
That's a forever and thus a dramatization, it brings DRAMA to a
situation rather than peace, vanishment and void.
>But one thing for sure, there definitely is something wrong with "forever."
>It seems to be a bit late on the track to be really basic, more like a 3rd
>postulate or something.
It's an effort to make sure something NEVER happens again, or
ALWAYS happens again, its an effort to create a permanent PERSISTENCE.
Run
"What would it be ok to have be for just a while."
"What would it not be ok to have be for just a while."
>Or, to put it another way, "forever" is possibly all the more devious
>because it harmonizes with (or is a mockery of) a theta truth.
Yes, it is an effort to bring the non temporal eternality of
static into being as a termporal eternity of MEST.
Something forever is hell forever.
Nothing forever is death forever.
Cycling between something and nothing, manifest and unmanifest
forever is "fair chosen peace via hell and high water".
In other words you can (willingly) have something as long as you
can have nothing, and you can have nothing as long as you can have
something, but if you HAVE to have something forever, then you begin
to seek nothing forever, and if you HAVE to have nothing forever you
begin to seek something forever, and see saw between the two
endlessly, life after life.
Hell forever - > Death Forever -> Hell forever -> Death forever
Meatball -> Christian -> Meatball -> Christian.
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WHY THE CHURCH IS NOT LIKED
SCI - 11
Copyright (C) 1992 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
The Church of Scientology is fully responsible for its own
condition.
If they are not liked by the public at large it is only because
they have gone out of their way, to great lengths in fact, albeit
unwittingly to engender that public distrust in them.
Attitude is everything.
They have the technology to produce a problems release (Grade I) in
their preclears, one who can recognize the source of problems and make
them vanish.
They have the technology to end PTSness (the PTS Rundown) in their
preclears, one who is no longer the effect of suppression, does not
rollercoaster and makes stable and lasting gains through any workable
form of therapy.
Auditing the group and the environment is no different than
auditing a single person.
Auditing is a swift and effective technology.
If after 40 years of effort you find that your pc is still enmired
in problems and PTSness then you can only assume that the technology was
never applied or incorrectly applied.
The same applies to the Church. If you find it is surrounded by
Suppressives and drowning in problems, then you must take out its
collective case folder and find out where the Grade I and PTS rundowns
went wrong.
The is called an FES or Folder Error Summary.
The usual failure in Scientology technology is just to not apply
it.
The next failure is to apply it wrongly or to an imagined case that
is not the case that is in front of you.
Thus if you accept the premise that the Church is in trouble with
the world around it, you must also conclude that either it is not
applying the technology to itself on a group basis, a form of mutual
missed withhold, or that it is applying it wrongly, a form of out tech,
possibly the result of underestimating or incorrectly estimating the
nature of the aberration it is trying to deal with, both in others who
would attack it and in itself that it should go to the effect of those
attacks.
Of course the possibility exists that the technology just doesn't
work at all in which case there is no hope either for the Church or its
preclears.
What YOU do about any possible complaint about the Church depends
on whether you think the technology works or not.
If you don't think it works, then I suggest you go play another
game or hang around and watch it die.
If you have attained personal reality on the workability of the
tech, which means it works FOR YOU, then perhaps you could consider
breaking out the old E-meter and auditing the hell out of the Church
until it comes around to rights.
Since you can't audit anyone who is actively PTS or who is deeply
enmired in present time problems (same thing), EXCEPT ON PROBLEMS AND
PTSNESS, your first approach to auditing the Church would be on the
subject of problems, suppression and personal responsibility for being
the effect of such things.
Most chronic problems that people have over a long duration are
themselves SOLUTIONS to earlier unconfrontable problems. The present
time chronic problem is confrontable in that no matter how bad it may
be, the person knows about it and is still alive.
Such problems are solutions to earlier problems in that by taking
their attention off of what they could not confront and possibly would
not survive if they did confront, they allow themselves to continue in
the time stream, albeit screaming and yelling about all the problems
they have!
If you consider this data along with the Church and all of its
known and widely publicized chronic problems of long duration with the
many governments of Earth, the drug companies, the press, the FBI, the
IRS etc., you will see a classic case of a pc in great need of auditing
at the level of Grade I. The later problems on the chain never vanish
and resolve because the pc needs them to continue to not confront an
earlier problem of magnitude.
The Church, which is a collective of individual pcs, is no
different.
In other words it is utterly acceptable to the Church to be under
onslaught from everyone around them. They would go completely belly up
if everyone just suddenly said, 'Come on in, sit down, our home is your
home, would you like some tea...'
This is the essence of insanity, feeling safe only when you are
fighting a losing battle.
Of course before you can audit problems (Grade I) you gotta get a
few things out of the way at the level of communication (Grade 0).
That is in small part the purpose of this list, and my intention on
it, to get the Church, its adherents and detractors in full
communication with each other with both sides willing and able for
anyone to communicate with anyone on any subject.
At present time the Grade 0 is out, so there is no hope for Grade
I.
By the way, just because you are a vocal detractor of Scientology
does not make you an SP. And just because you are a member in good
standing does not make you NOT an SP.
Look to the chronic problems you have in your life, and the prior
chronic problems you had that the later ones help you live with, and
trace it all down to roots and you will find the true SP's that have
been ruining your life and your future.
It probably won't be anyone on this list.
But they may be watching.
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SCI - 11
Copyright (C) 1992 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
The Church of Scientology is fully responsible for its own
condition.
If they are not liked by the public at large it is only because
they have gone out of their way, to great lengths in fact, albeit
unwittingly to engender that public distrust in them.
Attitude is everything.
They have the technology to produce a problems release (Grade I) in
their preclears, one who can recognize the source of problems and make
them vanish.
They have the technology to end PTSness (the PTS Rundown) in their
preclears, one who is no longer the effect of suppression, does not
rollercoaster and makes stable and lasting gains through any workable
form of therapy.
Auditing the group and the environment is no different than
auditing a single person.
Auditing is a swift and effective technology.
If after 40 years of effort you find that your pc is still enmired
in problems and PTSness then you can only assume that the technology was
never applied or incorrectly applied.
The same applies to the Church. If you find it is surrounded by
Suppressives and drowning in problems, then you must take out its
collective case folder and find out where the Grade I and PTS rundowns
went wrong.
The is called an FES or Folder Error Summary.
The usual failure in Scientology technology is just to not apply
it.
The next failure is to apply it wrongly or to an imagined case that
is not the case that is in front of you.
Thus if you accept the premise that the Church is in trouble with
the world around it, you must also conclude that either it is not
applying the technology to itself on a group basis, a form of mutual
missed withhold, or that it is applying it wrongly, a form of out tech,
possibly the result of underestimating or incorrectly estimating the
nature of the aberration it is trying to deal with, both in others who
would attack it and in itself that it should go to the effect of those
attacks.
Of course the possibility exists that the technology just doesn't
work at all in which case there is no hope either for the Church or its
preclears.
What YOU do about any possible complaint about the Church depends
on whether you think the technology works or not.
If you don't think it works, then I suggest you go play another
game or hang around and watch it die.
If you have attained personal reality on the workability of the
tech, which means it works FOR YOU, then perhaps you could consider
breaking out the old E-meter and auditing the hell out of the Church
until it comes around to rights.
Since you can't audit anyone who is actively PTS or who is deeply
enmired in present time problems (same thing), EXCEPT ON PROBLEMS AND
PTSNESS, your first approach to auditing the Church would be on the
subject of problems, suppression and personal responsibility for being
the effect of such things.
Most chronic problems that people have over a long duration are
themselves SOLUTIONS to earlier unconfrontable problems. The present
time chronic problem is confrontable in that no matter how bad it may
be, the person knows about it and is still alive.
Such problems are solutions to earlier problems in that by taking
their attention off of what they could not confront and possibly would
not survive if they did confront, they allow themselves to continue in
the time stream, albeit screaming and yelling about all the problems
they have!
If you consider this data along with the Church and all of its
known and widely publicized chronic problems of long duration with the
many governments of Earth, the drug companies, the press, the FBI, the
IRS etc., you will see a classic case of a pc in great need of auditing
at the level of Grade I. The later problems on the chain never vanish
and resolve because the pc needs them to continue to not confront an
earlier problem of magnitude.
The Church, which is a collective of individual pcs, is no
different.
In other words it is utterly acceptable to the Church to be under
onslaught from everyone around them. They would go completely belly up
if everyone just suddenly said, 'Come on in, sit down, our home is your
home, would you like some tea...'
This is the essence of insanity, feeling safe only when you are
fighting a losing battle.
Of course before you can audit problems (Grade I) you gotta get a
few things out of the way at the level of communication (Grade 0).
That is in small part the purpose of this list, and my intention on
it, to get the Church, its adherents and detractors in full
communication with each other with both sides willing and able for
anyone to communicate with anyone on any subject.
At present time the Grade 0 is out, so there is no hope for Grade
I.
By the way, just because you are a vocal detractor of Scientology
does not make you an SP. And just because you are a member in good
standing does not make you NOT an SP.
Look to the chronic problems you have in your life, and the prior
chronic problems you had that the later ones help you live with, and
trace it all down to roots and you will find the true SP's that have
been ruining your life and your future.
It probably won't be anyone on this list.
But they may be watching.
Homer
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Friday, February 21, 2014
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OWNERSHIP
At its base, ownership means rights of control.
It helps to have the ability to control too, but ownership means
rights of control.
If I have the right to control something, others have the duty to
let me control it.
Duties and rights are fair chosen, they are negotiated between
parties to mutual satisfaction.
In the absence of others, rights and duties have no meaning.
For every right there is a duty and for every duty there is a
right.
You have a right to have duties, and you have a duty to have
rights.
Social justice is a fair chosen operating balance of duties and
rights.
Standard Adore stuff...
Ownership of a cognition means that you have the rights of control
over what to do with that cog, including talking about it with others or
forgetting it entirely.
Ownership can be taken away in at least two ways.
First simply by lack of fair exchange, even if the giving party
doesn't put any limitations on what you can do with the cog, the cat
that you still owe them in fair exchange, means the cog isn't quite
yours.
You buy a car with a promise to pay at a later date. Sure the car
is yours to drive, but if you don't pay, they can come take the car
back, so the car isn't really fully yours until the debt of havingness
is paid.
In the same way a preclear feels that the Master, auditor and C/S
have a lien of sorts on his case gain, until he can fully exchange for
it.
Knowing he is getting something for free will kill a session, but
paying money is only a token, and for preclears that realize this,
paying money is not enough.
"COME ON DOWN TO DALLAS!"
Second ownership can be given away by agreement.
You go down to Alan Walter's Dallas Knowledgism Center and you sign
up to receive your Codes auditing. But before they will give it to you,
you must sign a non disclosure agreement, not only for the Codes that
you find about yourself, but also the tech they used to find them.
Thus the final result, your understanding of your most basic Codes,
do not belong to you to do with as you see fit.
And your actions in life are constrained by the enforced agreements
you had to make to get the auditing.
You notice how in the Church NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT THEIR CASE,
GAINS OR COGS IN OR OUT OF SESSION.
That's by agreement, but it's enforced by threat of expulsion, from
the 'only game going'.
I remember vividly once at Flag I was suicidal and holding my head
in my hands in my head at the Fort Harrison, really at the end of my
last thread of string, and this high toned guy came up to me and tried
to help.
A few minutes later, get got up to leave after having said to me:
PROBLEMS ONLY PERSIST TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO
CONSIDER UNETHICAL SOLUTIONS TO THEM.
I looked at that, and tried to apply it, and over the years it has
molted to something different in my space having to do with ANDS, but
the point is the next day I saw the guy in Ethics talking about his
egregious violation of the agreement to not sharing cogs or reality with
anyone else.
Later someone came up to me and told me that what he had done was
NOT OK, their favorite term for being conscious and originating a
communication of worth, and that I shouldn't solicit, nor allow others,
to help me by giving me cogs.
I never forgot that lesson, OWNERSHIP OF COGS BELONGS TO THE GIVER
NOT THE RECEIVER. At that moment I decided never to allow my
understandings of life to be owned by anyone for any reason, no matter
what the consequences.
It's not that help is bad, its that help with strings is bad.
I mean just how low does your pride level have to be that you will
sell a part of your soul in self constraints just to get your pride
back?
Certainly it might make sense in some things to have trademark
secrets and non disclosure agreements.
And certainly you were not FORCED to get your Codes from the
Knowledgism group, maybe you could have gotten them elsewhere.
And in any case, need does not bestow right, so just because you
NEED your codes to function again in the spiritual world, doesn't mean
anyone else has a duty to give them to you, nor help you get them
yourself, and so they are free to attach whatever strings or indentured
servitude for the rest of time they wish, to the delivery of the
services you want, need and request of them.
This is simple good business sense.
And its a great way to own people, to get them to do your bidding,
and keep them from giving away the secrets of their tech so that their
income doesn't crash because suddenly just anyone can produces a cleared
Codee.
How does that make you feel?
Homer
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At its base, ownership means rights of control.
It helps to have the ability to control too, but ownership means
rights of control.
If I have the right to control something, others have the duty to
let me control it.
Duties and rights are fair chosen, they are negotiated between
parties to mutual satisfaction.
In the absence of others, rights and duties have no meaning.
For every right there is a duty and for every duty there is a
right.
You have a right to have duties, and you have a duty to have
rights.
Social justice is a fair chosen operating balance of duties and
rights.
Standard Adore stuff...
Ownership of a cognition means that you have the rights of control
over what to do with that cog, including talking about it with others or
forgetting it entirely.
Ownership can be taken away in at least two ways.
First simply by lack of fair exchange, even if the giving party
doesn't put any limitations on what you can do with the cog, the cat
that you still owe them in fair exchange, means the cog isn't quite
yours.
You buy a car with a promise to pay at a later date. Sure the car
is yours to drive, but if you don't pay, they can come take the car
back, so the car isn't really fully yours until the debt of havingness
is paid.
In the same way a preclear feels that the Master, auditor and C/S
have a lien of sorts on his case gain, until he can fully exchange for
it.
Knowing he is getting something for free will kill a session, but
paying money is only a token, and for preclears that realize this,
paying money is not enough.
"COME ON DOWN TO DALLAS!"
Second ownership can be given away by agreement.
You go down to Alan Walter's Dallas Knowledgism Center and you sign
up to receive your Codes auditing. But before they will give it to you,
you must sign a non disclosure agreement, not only for the Codes that
you find about yourself, but also the tech they used to find them.
Thus the final result, your understanding of your most basic Codes,
do not belong to you to do with as you see fit.
And your actions in life are constrained by the enforced agreements
you had to make to get the auditing.
You notice how in the Church NO ONE EVER TALKS ABOUT THEIR CASE,
GAINS OR COGS IN OR OUT OF SESSION.
That's by agreement, but it's enforced by threat of expulsion, from
the 'only game going'.
I remember vividly once at Flag I was suicidal and holding my head
in my hands in my head at the Fort Harrison, really at the end of my
last thread of string, and this high toned guy came up to me and tried
to help.
A few minutes later, get got up to leave after having said to me:
PROBLEMS ONLY PERSIST TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO
CONSIDER UNETHICAL SOLUTIONS TO THEM.
I looked at that, and tried to apply it, and over the years it has
molted to something different in my space having to do with ANDS, but
the point is the next day I saw the guy in Ethics talking about his
egregious violation of the agreement to not sharing cogs or reality with
anyone else.
Later someone came up to me and told me that what he had done was
NOT OK, their favorite term for being conscious and originating a
communication of worth, and that I shouldn't solicit, nor allow others,
to help me by giving me cogs.
I never forgot that lesson, OWNERSHIP OF COGS BELONGS TO THE GIVER
NOT THE RECEIVER. At that moment I decided never to allow my
understandings of life to be owned by anyone for any reason, no matter
what the consequences.
It's not that help is bad, its that help with strings is bad.
I mean just how low does your pride level have to be that you will
sell a part of your soul in self constraints just to get your pride
back?
Certainly it might make sense in some things to have trademark
secrets and non disclosure agreements.
And certainly you were not FORCED to get your Codes from the
Knowledgism group, maybe you could have gotten them elsewhere.
And in any case, need does not bestow right, so just because you
NEED your codes to function again in the spiritual world, doesn't mean
anyone else has a duty to give them to you, nor help you get them
yourself, and so they are free to attach whatever strings or indentured
servitude for the rest of time they wish, to the delivery of the
services you want, need and request of them.
This is simple good business sense.
And its a great way to own people, to get them to do your bidding,
and keep them from giving away the secrets of their tech so that their
income doesn't crash because suddenly just anyone can produces a cleared
Codee.
How does that make you feel?
Homer
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(607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
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Wednesday, February 19, 2014
ADORE496
IMPINGEMENT AND THE IMP SOUL
We define native state as utter non manifestation and unimpingeable
peace.
That means only you wake you up.
Native state has been called the Static, the Void, Source, and the
Big Snooze by various religions.
The primary function of the static is to create the apparancy of
kinetics in spacetime whiles.
Spacetime whiles are holographic projections of space and time in
the zero dimensional substrate called consciousness, in which the
apparances of kinetics can play out their course.
This is the form of manifestation and are engaged in for the
purpose of fun.
Fun is the other side of the coin to peace.
Because the static is cause, in order to get kinetics to persist in
the eyes of its beholders, static must confuse the subject of cause by
casting apparent cause out into the kinetic.
Thus those in the world of kinetics consider that cause is all
around them, outside of them, coming from others, other places, other
things, other times.
Since OUT THERE is itself a holographic illusion, so is any
cause that is presumed to be OUT THERE.
From the static's point of view two electrons repel each other
because the static moves them apart. Static is cause and electrons are
both the effect of the static. There is no cause BETWEEN the electrons,
and electrons have no cause over each other.
From the kinetic's point of view the two electrons push each other
apart because, both are cause over each other, and thus both are also
effect of each other.
Thus the static casts (apparent) cause out into its kinetic
creations, all the while (actually) maintaining cause itself.
The static is thus acting as a third party to all of kinetic
existence, making two kinetic events happen as if they caused each other
without outside influence.
Since the static adds a level of complexity to the causal structure
that makes things go in the world of kinetics, Occam's Razor tells us
not to consider it. Occam tells us that cause in the kinetic world is
sufficient to explain changes in the kinetic world, and thus no one
considers the static while in the kinetic world.
This is necessary to keep the true source of cause confused and
thus the kinetic world persisting.
However the only way to assign cause to other things in the kinetic
world, is to ALSO assign oneself, while walking in the kinetic world, as
an effect.
Thus one can be impinged upon.
An impingement is an expected or unexpected causal wave coming in
to us, apparently without our intention, that changes our state directly
or forces us to change our own state to compensate.
In the kinetic world, desire is separated from accomplishment by
time, during which is a dance of effort designed to bring out the
desired state.
The dance of effort is computed from what we know about the rules
of the game, the laws of the universe, and what exactly it is we want.
DOING = WANTING + KNOWING
In the kinetic world, you can't just light a fire by wanting it any
more, thus one has to DO various specific things to bring the fire
about.
If you fail to bring the fire about in a timely manner, then you
lose the game of survival.
The kinetic world is mostly a game of survival, a game of anti
entropy against an ever spreading sea of entropy.
Entropy is unuseful energy, that eventually renders the entire
universe diffuse and constant in all directions.
The sun is a huge momentary concentrated source of anti entropy,
and as it radiates out into spacetime, it too heads in the direction of
final dispersement.
However while on their way to the abyss, some of the rays of the
sun hit the Earth, and are gathered into useful pools of anti entropy
called plants and animals. And thus life and civilization goes on,
trying to keep the light of life alive as long as possible.
That is the game of survival.
Certain kinds of anti entropy is quite capable of collecting and
concentrating other energy, which would otherwise head out into the
void, into greater pools of useful energy than itself, thus for a while,
the game of survival is afoot, through profit and affluence of margin
against failure.
We call this process and the margin it creates civilization.
Impingements of importance then are between sources of entropy and
anti entropy.
You have a silo full of corn (anti entropy) and it gets hit by
lightning burning it to the ground (entropy). Your hard won anti
entropy is now useless.
To deal with these impingements your game of survival demands that
you impinge back on the universe and build a better and stronger silo.
Thus the game of survival is a game of impingement and counter
impingement.
Some impingements are pro survival, you get a good rain storm and
things grow.
Some impingements are contra survival, you get too much rain and
everything rots.
Or you have too little rain, and everything dies. That's a lack of
needed impingement!
Thus, as in all games, there is too much impingement and too little
impingement both of which are contra survival.
A motivator is a moment of non optimum impingement, too much or too
little.
An overt is also a moment of non optimum impingement on your part
against something else, too much or too little, either accidental or
intentional.
The effort to survive then is directed at optimizing impingement so
there is not too much nor too little.
Too little rain can be optimized by irrigation, you don't get
impinged upon enough by the rain, so you impinge back and move a river
to run through your land, or you build water storage tanks to hold
excess rain for times of less.
Impingement and counter impingement is the game of life directed at
bringing about a continuing optimum impingement all around.
So the sun impinges on the Earth and pushes plants into existence.
Animals, acting like a slow fire to plants, impinge on the plants
by eating them, converting their stored energy into motion, namely sow
and reap cycles of more plants. This is the process of consumption and
production.
As long as the sun continues to impinge calmly on the Earth, and as
long as plants grow, and animals tend to their plants properly, and
produce more than they consume and don't pollute their own living
spaces, or war with each other unnecessarily or without class, this game
can go on for a very long time indeed.
Such a scene produces ample free time to do some great art.
In the end life itself is art in motion, and what gets painted or
written as music and art are probably just expressions of life, stories
told of glories past, present and future, that are not immediately
useful to the body maybe, but are certainly useful to the heart, mind
and soul.
If only as inspiration to keep the game going when the going gets
tough.
The basic impingement is the first creation of conscious light in
the body of the static, the awakening of dreamtime.
But then dreamtime is itself a tapestry of stories told of
impingement designed to confuse the original and only source of true
impingement which is the static itself.
When a person complains about the world or some condition, he is
complaining about some part of that tapestry of impingement.
A psychosomatic condition is an impingement, originally wanted,
but possibly no longer useful. Reevaluation of salient truths
surrounding that condition will lead to recovered and better control
over it.
A somatic is state of being victimized.
One audits being victimized in tandem with victimizing, either
accidentally or intentionally, on all flows, to relieve the burden of
both to all parties involved.
Problems within one's self, indecisions, self doubts, oscillations,
equivocations, two desires opposed, are all a form of inner impingement
against oneself. Two sides of one's self impinging against the other,
"NO!", "YES!", "NO WAY!", "Yes WAY!".
By maintaining awareness of the true source of impingement and how
it works, one can rewrite how impingement works in your life and in the
life of the AllThatIs.
This results in reoptimizing the games of life, and maximizing the
fun of being here and lost as hell.
This is what auditing is about.
"Who or what is cause around here and why is it such an asshole?"
Homer
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We define native state as utter non manifestation and unimpingeable
peace.
That means only you wake you up.
Native state has been called the Static, the Void, Source, and the
Big Snooze by various religions.
The primary function of the static is to create the apparancy of
kinetics in spacetime whiles.
Spacetime whiles are holographic projections of space and time in
the zero dimensional substrate called consciousness, in which the
apparances of kinetics can play out their course.
This is the form of manifestation and are engaged in for the
purpose of fun.
Fun is the other side of the coin to peace.
Because the static is cause, in order to get kinetics to persist in
the eyes of its beholders, static must confuse the subject of cause by
casting apparent cause out into the kinetic.
Thus those in the world of kinetics consider that cause is all
around them, outside of them, coming from others, other places, other
things, other times.
Since OUT THERE is itself a holographic illusion, so is any
cause that is presumed to be OUT THERE.
From the static's point of view two electrons repel each other
because the static moves them apart. Static is cause and electrons are
both the effect of the static. There is no cause BETWEEN the electrons,
and electrons have no cause over each other.
From the kinetic's point of view the two electrons push each other
apart because, both are cause over each other, and thus both are also
effect of each other.
Thus the static casts (apparent) cause out into its kinetic
creations, all the while (actually) maintaining cause itself.
The static is thus acting as a third party to all of kinetic
existence, making two kinetic events happen as if they caused each other
without outside influence.
Since the static adds a level of complexity to the causal structure
that makes things go in the world of kinetics, Occam's Razor tells us
not to consider it. Occam tells us that cause in the kinetic world is
sufficient to explain changes in the kinetic world, and thus no one
considers the static while in the kinetic world.
This is necessary to keep the true source of cause confused and
thus the kinetic world persisting.
However the only way to assign cause to other things in the kinetic
world, is to ALSO assign oneself, while walking in the kinetic world, as
an effect.
Thus one can be impinged upon.
An impingement is an expected or unexpected causal wave coming in
to us, apparently without our intention, that changes our state directly
or forces us to change our own state to compensate.
In the kinetic world, desire is separated from accomplishment by
time, during which is a dance of effort designed to bring out the
desired state.
The dance of effort is computed from what we know about the rules
of the game, the laws of the universe, and what exactly it is we want.
DOING = WANTING + KNOWING
In the kinetic world, you can't just light a fire by wanting it any
more, thus one has to DO various specific things to bring the fire
about.
If you fail to bring the fire about in a timely manner, then you
lose the game of survival.
The kinetic world is mostly a game of survival, a game of anti
entropy against an ever spreading sea of entropy.
Entropy is unuseful energy, that eventually renders the entire
universe diffuse and constant in all directions.
The sun is a huge momentary concentrated source of anti entropy,
and as it radiates out into spacetime, it too heads in the direction of
final dispersement.
However while on their way to the abyss, some of the rays of the
sun hit the Earth, and are gathered into useful pools of anti entropy
called plants and animals. And thus life and civilization goes on,
trying to keep the light of life alive as long as possible.
That is the game of survival.
Certain kinds of anti entropy is quite capable of collecting and
concentrating other energy, which would otherwise head out into the
void, into greater pools of useful energy than itself, thus for a while,
the game of survival is afoot, through profit and affluence of margin
against failure.
We call this process and the margin it creates civilization.
Impingements of importance then are between sources of entropy and
anti entropy.
You have a silo full of corn (anti entropy) and it gets hit by
lightning burning it to the ground (entropy). Your hard won anti
entropy is now useless.
To deal with these impingements your game of survival demands that
you impinge back on the universe and build a better and stronger silo.
Thus the game of survival is a game of impingement and counter
impingement.
Some impingements are pro survival, you get a good rain storm and
things grow.
Some impingements are contra survival, you get too much rain and
everything rots.
Or you have too little rain, and everything dies. That's a lack of
needed impingement!
Thus, as in all games, there is too much impingement and too little
impingement both of which are contra survival.
A motivator is a moment of non optimum impingement, too much or too
little.
An overt is also a moment of non optimum impingement on your part
against something else, too much or too little, either accidental or
intentional.
The effort to survive then is directed at optimizing impingement so
there is not too much nor too little.
Too little rain can be optimized by irrigation, you don't get
impinged upon enough by the rain, so you impinge back and move a river
to run through your land, or you build water storage tanks to hold
excess rain for times of less.
Impingement and counter impingement is the game of life directed at
bringing about a continuing optimum impingement all around.
So the sun impinges on the Earth and pushes plants into existence.
Animals, acting like a slow fire to plants, impinge on the plants
by eating them, converting their stored energy into motion, namely sow
and reap cycles of more plants. This is the process of consumption and
production.
As long as the sun continues to impinge calmly on the Earth, and as
long as plants grow, and animals tend to their plants properly, and
produce more than they consume and don't pollute their own living
spaces, or war with each other unnecessarily or without class, this game
can go on for a very long time indeed.
Such a scene produces ample free time to do some great art.
In the end life itself is art in motion, and what gets painted or
written as music and art are probably just expressions of life, stories
told of glories past, present and future, that are not immediately
useful to the body maybe, but are certainly useful to the heart, mind
and soul.
If only as inspiration to keep the game going when the going gets
tough.
The basic impingement is the first creation of conscious light in
the body of the static, the awakening of dreamtime.
But then dreamtime is itself a tapestry of stories told of
impingement designed to confuse the original and only source of true
impingement which is the static itself.
When a person complains about the world or some condition, he is
complaining about some part of that tapestry of impingement.
A psychosomatic condition is an impingement, originally wanted,
but possibly no longer useful. Reevaluation of salient truths
surrounding that condition will lead to recovered and better control
over it.
A somatic is state of being victimized.
One audits being victimized in tandem with victimizing, either
accidentally or intentionally, on all flows, to relieve the burden of
both to all parties involved.
Problems within one's self, indecisions, self doubts, oscillations,
equivocations, two desires opposed, are all a form of inner impingement
against oneself. Two sides of one's self impinging against the other,
"NO!", "YES!", "NO WAY!", "Yes WAY!".
By maintaining awareness of the true source of impingement and how
it works, one can rewrite how impingement works in your life and in the
life of the AllThatIs.
This results in reoptimizing the games of life, and maximizing the
fun of being here and lost as hell.
This is what auditing is about.
"Who or what is cause around here and why is it such an asshole?"
Homer
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Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY
homer@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com
Sat May 5 02:06:47 EDT 2007
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Homer Wilson Smith Clean Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
homer@lightlink.com Is that too much to ask? http://www.lightlink.com
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