Saturday, December 20, 2014

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LETTER TO ENID

E.

I want to go over 'tech' from top to bottom, we have done this
before, its time to do it again.

I am winning rather than losing, doing pretty well for someone who
crawled off a morgue slab.

I have not attained happiness, but I have attained awareness of how
my fear and upset is/was killing my body due to my non handle when it
occurs/ed. A pissed off God is no good for a human brain.

Things are pretty loose, can't see a thing, but when I can they're
way too young. :)

People in bodies just simply have no idea what beauty (and ugly) is
available once the gates of mortal doom are opened to the exquisite and
unspeakable candy land beyond.

NOTS is turning on, huge malestroms of totally insane beings right
out of every horror picture ever made, billions and billions of them.

Running who are you, what are you, HOW MANY ARE YOU, it usually
doesn't require much beyond that. Amphitheaters of beings at a time.

Been running ANDS, last one was

The effort to die AND the effort to not die at the same time.

Joke is they are almost the same effort, not quite but enough to
confuse, doing one does the other.

Get one side of an AND and it runs a bit but then goes out of
control for the rest of time. Need to run both sides.

Had the effort to not die years ago, only nailed the effort TO die
recently.

When I got the AND, the relief was palpable.

Lot's of reasons for a God to not want to die.
Lot's of reasons for a God to want to die,

He keeps himself busy by doing both at the same time.

Take a being who wants to be eternal and tell him he is made of
meat produces the most amazing crash into solidity, harder than the
hardest metal. It only resolves by making it again, with good humor.

Efforts to reattain eternality by 'running out' the crash do not
work, because one has to BE eternal to create the crash in the first
place and thus run it out from the beginning.

Thus incidents do not erase until contact is made with the
beginning of it.

You can't become cause by being an effect, but you can cease being
an effect by causing oneself to be an effect until gone.

No one is there yet, but it beckons...

And the light on the other side is so spectacularly beautiful.

But there is a darkside still not understood...

Homer

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Friday, December 19, 2014

ADORE215 (fwd)

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huggieoh (huggieoh@clear.net.nz) wrote:

>Homer's problem solved,
>IMMORTALITY, you can't attain it and you can never lose it!

Correct.

However one can lose sight of one's immortality, and thus live a
mortal life on death row with resulting infinite charge on infinite loss
of infinite futures.

Tell an immortal being whose future is endlessly beautiful that he
is going die forever shortly, and watch the sadness grow without bounds.

It actually brings the whole universe down.

True it is a joke the being plays on himself, but the purpose of
the joke is to get the humor of it all after a while, not to be a mortal
life after life forever and ever. So at some point in the travesty it
comes time for the being to wake up and get the Joke again.

>To strive after immortality is one of the oldest implants.
>They MAKE you be what you already have.
>Immortality is not a damned long time as the Abos believe. It is the
>everlasting Here and Now.
>There is no other place and there is no other time.
>If you can't help being immortal why not relax and enjoy it?

You are talking about ETERNALITY of the here and now.

Well many beings are actually headed for a kind of Hell forever.

They can relax all they want but are still headed for an abyss of
bugs, fire, torment and eventually cold tar, obsidian glass, crazy glue,
and concrete.

Often they become meatballs rather than face that fate, but of
course it doesn't stop the actual descent in to hell. Mortality is like
a short stop at an opium den on the way out the tubes.

Eventually they get booted out their drug den to slip down to the
next opium den on the way down the drain.

This oscillation between hell forever and death forever is the
result of an aberration arising from dramatization of forevers itself,
and it can and should be audited out.

This is because forever of anything (in time) leads to a
hell forever of boredom, which leads to the desire for death
forever at any cost, which is just another forever, but when the
guy dies he sees is a deceit and he is back in a hell forever.

Around and around we go.

Being glib about these things is not good for a being.

Having found myself about 10 opium dens down the way, and pulled
myself back from the brink, I can only say that some people need to
experience it to get real on it and stop "Oh Poshing" the condition.

If a being is high enough to get the joke himself and can thus
appreciate the beauty of beings rolling around the drain to hell, well
then they can appreciate the scene all they want and then go their way.

But when most people first gaze upon the oceanic flow of beings
down the river of Hell, their hearts stop for a moment and they feel the
undertow slowly taking them in the same direction.

These people, unlike you, might be interested in what I have to say.

Homer

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ACT39 (fwd)

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((Editors Comments in double parentheses - Homer))

MY PURPOSE ON THIS NEWSGROUP

ACT - 39
16 January 1994

Copyright (C) 1994 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.

My purpose on this list is to make the world as aware of the Field
as it is of the Church.

Also to provide competition to the Church, and to even the balance
of competition between the Church and the Field.

Now if that isn't the most 'suppressive' goal that one could have
towards the Church of Scientology, then I don't know what is.

That the Church won't survive at all without it will go unnoticed.

Neither the Free Zone nor the Church will survive with out
competition between them.

Long term life comes from free and open competition, not from being
an Only One, with no datum of comparable magnitude.

Homer

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Tuesday, December 16, 2014

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POWERS AND PROOF

OK, here is the truth.

Demonstration of OT abilities will never convince anyone that they are
an eternal being, or that they can have those powers themselves. Thus
doing so is very dangerous. If they survive the shock of opening their
pandora's box of immortal nightmares, you will at best have won a follower
who needs your powers for his protection, and at worst won a detractor who
is scared of your powers and will do anything to destroy them, you and
your loved ones.

Further even recovering a memory of one's past track will never
convince a being he is an eternal being, but only an immortal being in
time, destined for hell forever. He will CHOOSE to doubt and go back to
being mortal to protect himself from the vertigo of immortal doom.

The only effective case gain then is to put the being back in
direct contact with his eternal timeless, spaceless, causeless static
self.

THEN he will be able to take full responsibility for the illusions
of immortality and hell forever, and mortality and death forever.

Sorry that's the only way.

Demonstrations of OT power for the mere sake of demonstration to those
who want proof of their eternality is strictly verboten.

It's the worst thing you could do for their case.

Homer

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SESSION NOTES 7/12/2000

The purpose of clearing and auditing is to help the person spot
where he is not spotting things, in particular where he is using force
and mass to not spot things and be unable to spot things.

Until a person can spot where he is using force and mass to not
spot things, he won't be able to spot things.

Once he can spot things again, and is no longer using force and
mass to prevent spotting, he is clear, or as good as clear.

One gets a person to spot where he is using force and mass to not
spot things, by getting him to spot where he is using force and mass to
not spot things, and to make more of the action of using force and mass
to not spot things.

That may sound silly and simple and so it is. Auditing was never
meant to be complex. Auditing is completely based on a 'putting it
there basis'. Once you can put it there fully, it will vanish once you
stop putting it there. The only catch was knowing you also had to put
there the NOT putting it there in order to lift off the not-isness level
first.

You don't want WHAT he is not spotting, you want only THAT he is
not spotting. He will get around to what on his own time.

This is the basic comm cycle and the whatsit and itsa lines.

The auditor asks "What is it?" and preclear answers "It is a..."

One however sometimes has to do this without asking "What...?"
questions: spotting is spotting, not question asking. Spotting the
dramatization of asking questions gets one out of the rut of endless
auditing through asking questions.

Question asking is a dramatization, one knows through permeation,
not asking questions.

The service fac is an effort to not know through asking questions.

It's an effort to not know by pretending to want to know.

Question asking is a public display of 'due diligence' motivated by
a covert intention to not find out.

Humans won't understand this, OT's will.

Being human is a service fac computation. The way to survive it to
be something that can die.

The basic things the person is not spotting are problems he doesn't
want to have, and thoughts he doesn't want to think about and his Basic
Vision and Basic Anti Vision.

Basic Vision is what Hubbard was talking about when he mentioned
the Basic Purpose, but its bigger than a mere purpose, is a Whole View
of the What Is and One's Part in it. It's a staggering 3D panorama of
the Cosmic All and where he and everybody else is and where he and
everybody else wants to get to.

One probably has it near the beginning of every life shortly after
waking up in a body with self awareness.

It gets overwhelmed by the Basic Anti Vision. The anti vision is
a great big 'forget it dude', 'no way Jose' on the basic vision.

This results in non spotting, I mean why spot what you can't have,
and further efforts TO not spot BY spotting other things, substitutes,
diversions, anything but admit that the Basic Vision is 'impossible' and
that one should die now.

One thinks mightily about many things in order to NOT think about
the one thing one should be thinking about etc.

One "gets up and goes" in order to not get up and go where one
should be etc.

One acts in order to not act, one looks in order to not look, one
spots B in order to not spot A.

In the end he is found 'trying' very hard to spot Z in order to
make damn sure he doesn't ever spot Z.

One's entire life can be the effort to not live by living something
else.

Chronic painful conditions are the kick back from failed.
dramatizations of not spotting. He is trying to blind himself, but it
ain't quite working completely.

These conditions then act themselves as something to spot to help
one continue to dramatize not spotting the earlier thing he should
really be spotting anyhow.

He is trying very hard say to not spot when mother was suffocating
him to death in blankets that were too warm. His EFFORT to black out
those memories of murderous rage then kick back with a splitting
headache which he is all too happy to spot forever for free. But the
*HEADACHE* never resolves, as it is the wrong thing to be spotting.

Everyone is doing this on a gradient scale of some sort, some are
doing it 100 percent. They are in deep trouble and are 'impossible' to
audit because every time you get them to look, they look by not looking,
they reach with their elbows.

Once they see this, it can begin to unwind, but its a long road.

One gets them to see they are doing this by getting them to
practice doing it.

All of the above is straight out of Hubbard and Adore in my own
words.

One considers that Oblivion is of the past, but actually its of the
present and the future. It is the future he doesn't want to see, and in
burying the future he buries the past accidentally as collateral damage,
or lest the past remind him of his now eternally ruined future.

Homer

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ADORE342 (fwd)

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>> And if not, isn't it time to wonder why, and to explore other - better
>> - ways to accomplish the objectives you described?

Yes of course.

That is in fact what we are doing.

However Hubbard got much of it right, perhaps in spite of himself
or perhaps he was higher tone in the beginning.

Thus one takes up where Hubbard 'left off' so to speak.

The basics of Scn are based on

1.) MEST is a dream

2.) The being is totally responsible for own condition, for being
in that dream and for inviting others in. Further the being's state
is a direct result of his own creative or agreeing postulates and
nothing else, and thus by spotting those postulates and releasing
them, the state in question vanishes.

3.) Persistence in MEST is caused by lies.

4.) Truth causes vanishment of all mechanical conditions of
existence.

5.) Charge results from failed desire and not-isness. Resistence
causes persistence etc.

6.) Case progress is as follows. First you get the not-isness
off the case, then the alter-isness, then the as-isness.

Result is a native state being free to engage again in persisting
shenanigans on his own choosing.

Now if any of the above is wrong, we got a problem, the roots of
Scn are rotten.

But if its all right, then the only thing wrong with Scn is
specific approach to HOW we do each step in the clearing process.

There is what to clear and how to clear. I believe Hubbard got
the what to clear mostly right, but how to clear can be very personal.

As to historical mythology born of people talking about the
incidents they ran on the whole track, or worse forcing others to run
the same incidents, its a clear violation of the auditor's code.

On the other hand nothing wrong with pioneers reporting what they
found to be real.

Homer


>
>
> That's mighty presumptuous of you. You would be better off taking your
> anti-Hubbard, anti-Scientology buttons to ARS.
>
>
> --
> Ted
>

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WHAT IS CLEARING?

The solution to the problems of life consist of anatomy and approach.

Anatomy is the anatomy of the problem, what it consists of, and how
one got into it.

Approach is what to DO about getting out of the problem.

Clearing is an approach based on understandings of anatomy, to
relieve a being of his self inflicted limitations and sufferings.

The purpose of clearing is to reoptimize the game of life as best
it can be, return to the being an acceptable ratio of winning and losing
under normal circumstances, with some thrill and doubt once in a while.

It is presumed that with useless self inflicted handicaps gone, his
ability to win at life will go up without question.

Primarily clearing restores eternal good humor born of mastery of
songs of sin and ludicrous demise.

Songs of sin are moments of self deceit, and ludicrous demise is
the result.

Of course if the limitations and sufferings of a life are not self
inflicted, then clearing can do nothing about that, but clearing can
still get a being to take back his own causative postulates about
himself and his inadequacy or insufficiency to his own survival, that he
made surrounding the inflictions of nature on him.

Some of these postulates may be incontrovertable, but most of them
will be found to be garbage, especially if made as a young child with
little power to defend himself and less understanding of what universe
he is actually in and the true nature of that universe.

So if the universe is going to wipe him out anyhow, there is
nothing that can be done about that, but as long as he is still in the
game, under normal conditions, he should be able to play it with verve,
zest and flair, and be proud to be himself.

And if the universe is still going to take him out no matter what,
he will go down fighting until he is no more, with his pride all that is
left still standing.

If there is such a thing as no more.

WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO CLEAR

We are trying to clear moments of self deceit wherein the being
chose to be handicapped, limited and or suffering.

At first he does this to make himself more acceptable to others,
you can't be a God walking amongst humans and expect to play with
them.

These are self installed handicaps at the beginning of life and
during the rest of it, to make others willing to play with him.

He wants fair game more than anything, even with the worst of evil,
that's Sportsmanship up at Games and Spirit of Play on the tone scale.

TONE SCALE
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi?/electra/tone.memo

Then he does it to make others more acceptable to him, you can't be
human walking amongst Devils, so he needs to soften the Devils up a bit
so they will play fair with him.

Most of negative case sticks in the later efforts to get and not
give sympathy, apology, cooperation or granting of beingness between
self and others.

Spot who you are trying to get sympathy from.
Spot who is refusing to give sympathy to you.
Spot who is trying to get sympathy from you.
Spot who you are refusing to give sympathy to.

Also the effort to give and not accept sympathy, apology etc.

Spot who is trying to give you sympathy.
Spot who you are refusing to accept sympathy from.
Spot who you are trying to give sympathy to.
Spot who is refusing to accept sympathy from you.

Since the way to happiness is a true confession:

Spot who is trying to get a confession from you.
Spot who you are refusing to give a confession to.
Spot who you are trying to get a confession from.
Spot who is refusing to give a confession to you.

Spot who you are trying to give a confession to.
Spot who won't accept your confession.
Spot who is trying to give a confession to you.
Spot who you won't accept a confession from.

The above is called a 16 way bracket on getting and giving,
accepting and rejecting sympathy and apology.

This one process alone can save a life of suffocation.

HANDICAPS

In walking the narrow edge between too much ability and too little
ability, your preclear has layered deceit upon deceit upon himself
without undoing prior deceits.

Thus he becomes a layer cake of lies about himself, each lie
intended to adjust and re adjust the balance of power and sympathy/help
in the game between himself and others, to a point where further
adjustment becomes almost impossible.

He can no longer make himself better, so all he can do is adjust
downwards, make himself worse to elicit more help.

He can't easily undo the mess he has made, because he can't
remember what he has been doing or why, because self deceit is self
deceit after all.

Self deceit likes to pretend there is NO self deceit.

Run to a result,

Get the idea there is:

NO self deceit.
SOME self deceit.

The primary problem with your preclear is he has engaged in a tad
too much NO, and not enough SOME.

He's got SOME NO (a lot actually), and NO SOME, get it?

So the thing we want to do with our preclear is get him to run all
this NO that he has been laying down on himself, particularly the chain
of NO self deceits and SOME self deceits.

Pretending NO self deceit is just another self deceit!

When the being has uncovered the basic deceit on any given chain,
he is free to change his mind about it, or continue it for yet another
day, thus allowing him to knowingly rebalance his handicaps in a way
that suits him in present time.

Being able to create NEW handicaps is as valuable in winning
present life games, as is getting rid of old irrelevant useless ones.

Master of disguise.

What we are trying to do is get him able to create, make survive
and destroy handicaps, that is become an expert in vanishment and
persistence.

Aberration is the effort to create a vanishment (as-isness) of a
SOME with a NO (not-isness). The apparency is that the thing is gone,
but it isn't and it eventually comes back to bite him and weigh him
down.

He's got a SOME and wants to vanish it. So the correct answer
is to make SOME MORE SOME until it vanishes when he let's go of it.

Instead he engages in try to vanish the SOME by saying there is NO
SOME there, which merely buries the SOME under concrete, mental mass,
blackness and invisibility.

That's how self deceit gets buried, he doesn't want to be self
deceived, but he feels like he has to just to survive, so he denies he
is using self deceit to survive, which is just more self deceit!

So as it is, he is carrying around handicaps from a thousand games
from a thousand years that are doing him no good in THIS game RIGHT NOW.

WHAT TO AUDIT

Notice that in the English language NO and KNOW sound the same,
this wrecks havoc on the preclear when he can no longer keep track of
what he KNOWs and what he NOs.

So what is there for a preclear to NO?

First there are the 5 senses.

Sight.

Hearing.

Taste.

Smell.

Touch.

Your black 5 has something he is not seeing, not hearing, not
tasting, not smelling and not touching.

Never ever ever ever ever ask a Black V to make a mock up.

He can't, why rub it in?

Making mock ups is not a muscle you flex enough times until it is
strong enough to make a mock up.

Run instead,

"Don't mock up something."
"Good, now verify you didn't mock it up."

God didn't know WHAT he was going to mock up before he mocked it
up, and he doesn't know now as a fallen being, as a being fallen into
the sea of NO, what he isn't mocking up any longer.

Forget the WHAT, never audit the WHAT, just audit the NO and SOME.

The moment the preclear starts asking SOME WHAT?, he is out of
session, forget the WHAT, you want SOME ANYTHING, it doesn't matter
WHAT.

Keep it a nameless something. He can get the SOME without getting
the exact WHAT.

Asking WHAT he as forgotten (SOME forgetting), and he won't be able
to answer the WHAT.

Tell him "FORGET SOMETHING! VERIFY IT IS STILL FORGOTTEN." and he
can do that easily without every knowing WHAT he is forgetting.

Continuing to forget something takes the NO or not-isness off the
forgetting and is the fastest way to remember what it is that was
forgotten.

At which point he will probably wish he could forget it again, but
a little confront of the SOME thing that has been uncovered will allow
it to heal or vanish on its own.

You can never vanish anything by denying it.

Not even if you deny that you are denying it.

Remember he is also running NO *AND* SOME on the same WHAT at the
same time. You just want to run the intentions and efforts to make it a
NO and SOME WHAT, you do NOT need to know the WHAT.

Then there is feeling, as in emotion. Your average mortal meatball
preclear can be found down below can't hide on the thetan tone scale,
allowing his body to run his life for him somewhere between despair and
terror.

What most people consider a productive life is actually powered by
a lot of whistling past the graveyard.

Sometimes you will find a cute human body who is up in Enthusiasm
as a body, but still down in can't hide as a thetan, and frankly they
may be photographic but mostly they are for the birds.

It's the grueling about life and its dilemmas that makes human
faces less than adorable.

The being's case makes the face. Pretty people generally don't
have a case because they are too stupid to have one. They are really
being the animal one hundred percent.

Every squirrel is cute, pretty girls are mostly squirrels.

As they get older they get uglier, not because they are getting
older, but because they are waking up to the truth of how much they hate
everything.

WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO NO?

The above 5 senses can bring experiences to us in at least 6 ways.

1.) Direct present time senses in contact with the physical
universe.

2.) Imagination creating experiences whether gleaned from the
physical universe or not. God didn't have to see a tree before he could
mock one up.

3.) Dreaming, as in night dreams.

4.) Hallucination, as in too much acid or suffering from trauma
spilling over into the day time waking hours.

5.) Memory

6.) Telepathy from others.

That gives us,

NO SENSING

NO IMAGINATION

NO DREAMING

NO HALLUCINATION

NO MEMORY

NO TELEPATHY and NO OTHERS.

And don't forget DOUBT, WONDER, INDECISION, DECISION, CERTAINTY and
PURPOSE.

NO DOUBT, NO WONDER, NO INDECISION, NO DECISION AND NO CERTAINTY.

And NO PURPOSE. He has suppressed his basic purposes, crushed them
utterly out of existence, so every time he gets up to go do something he
is dramatizing NO PURPOSE but gotta have SOME purpose. No wonder the
more he aspires the sicker he feels, it results from NO PURPOSE *AND*
SOME PURPOSE at the same time!

You can run

Spot something right.

Spot something wrong.

for long periods of time, and he will feel better as long as
he sticks to what's right for sure, because the rest of it is
24x7 wrong, no matter how much he is trying to save the world.

If the only thing he can think of that is right is to take
a pee when he needs to, then take the hint, you have your work
cut out for you.

QUESTION AND ANSWERS

The cause of time is quest.

Your preclear is powered in time by quest, by questions seeking
answers.

He has a serious mis understood on the nature of questions and
answers.

He believes that questions HAVE answers.

In truth, questions ARE answers.

You don't have to answer any question to feel good.

The moment they guy said I have to answer this question or I am
doomed, he was doomed.

So should we stop asking questions and not try to find answers?

It depends on whether you are talking about the physical universe
wherein there is a game to play called science which involves posing
questions and answering them, or whether you are talking about the
spiritual universe where the guy has MADE a game out of being
spiritually crucified on the cross of questions and answers, pride and
shame.

The being knows about himself, what is he doing asking questions
about himself? That's NO KNOWING, you see?

What happened to SOME KNOWING?

The scientist pretends that SOME knowing always comes after
NO knowing.

The bright preclear realizes that NO knowing always comes after
SOME knowing.

The NO knowing is a pretense about things that were at one time
known.

Remember we are trying to audit out self imposed limitations and
sufferings of self deceit.

A question about one's self or the spiritual nature of the world,
is a self imposed limitation on knowing what one knows at core about
one's self, including all these games of self deceit your preclear is
engaged in.

The guy has confused the external game of physical science, which
depends on questions and answers, with the internal game of going free.

Remember he didn't WANT to be free in the beginning, he WAS free,
but wanted to engage in an endless future of CHASE, and the primary
mechanism he used was obscuring the truth from himself by PRETENDING he
didn't KNOW and couldn't HAVE, but wanted to KNOW AND HAVE, via asking
questions, seeking answers and then fighting the good fight to attain.

Let me tell you Native State has no dearth of havingness.

And no questions needing answers either!

Native State is COMPLETE in itself, and eternally smug about it.

There is no liar lying like the seeker of truth.

Yes, he will get there some day, but only if he finds some truth :)

Which means QUESTIONS and not answers.

Questions are the truth, answers are the lies, they Q&A the
precleear away from the truth that he seeks.

Each answer creates another question, which then seeks another
answer which if he is unlucky enough to find it, will create another
questions ad forever and ever amen.

The real answer he wants is the first question he set out on
a quest in time to find the answer, then give up the quest and
zone out to native state again.

At root Q&A means to change the question every time you get a
possible answer, never actually getting the first question fully
answered, nor any of the following ones either.

In the vernacular it means wandering away from your original
destination every time you get stopped, and changing to a new
destination and wandering away from that one too when you get stopped
again.

Such a being never gets where he intends to go except accidentally.

The opposite of Q&A is dogged persistence towards your original
intent no matter what happens.

The problem is that dogged persistence in the direction of finding
answers is AWAY from the truth he seeks.

The game of questions seeking answers is the only game there is,
and always a game that can never be won.

But there is a lot of glory and sympathy in trying, enough to glue
you to the end of the time stream forever more.

It is the question asking, in particular the heavy convulsive
effort towards question asking, that powers time away from the source
point of having created the self deceit of not knowing.

Questions are like the pedals on his bicycle with which he rides
away from the beginning of time towards the end of time.

The answer to his SUFFERING *IS* the question which resides at the
beginning of any time cycle, not at the end, where in only false answers
await him that are not the question itself.

False answers make you feel bad, thus when you seek the answer to a
self answering question, the very effort to seek another answer than the
one you already have in the question itself, makes you feel doom is sure
to come, right around the corner in fact.

50 billion years later and sunk deep in timestone, he is still just
sure that doom is right around the corner.

Powered by eternal hope, he never notices that getting to his
answer and the end of his suffering in time, is kind of asymptotic,
always getting there, never arriving, but each mile harder and harder,
forever and ever.

So pedal he must and pedal he does.

YOU ALREADY HAVE THE ANSWER IN THE QUESTION YOU ARE ASKING,
anything further is a wrong answer, a wrong why, further down the stream
in time.

The more he seeks a wrong answer, the more determined he becomes to
seek the truth even though he is sure it will just crush him to find it
out in the end on a total unacceptability.

He's right, he is chasing a wrong answer, wrong answers make you
feel bad.

So there is no truth further down the time stream, let alone a
truth that will make you feel better or ameliorate your misery, which
results from an eternal search for an answer to a question which you
already know the answer to, BECAUSE THE ANSWER IS THE QUESTION!

You start off feeling good in time, and end up feeling bad.

This is why all immortalities in a single time stream *ALWAYS* end
up as hells in need of auditing.

Why? Because time is powered by the quest for an answer to a
question that IS the answer you seek.

The problem is your preclear no longer knows what questions he is
asking, and there are many of them. He feels it as a massive convulsion
to DO something about something, about anything, as long as he is DOING.
Doing in this regard is pedaling towards the spiritual garbage pail at
the end of time.

One might be tempted to say that the way to audit this is to run
what questions he is asking, and it is, but you have to be VERY careful
not to run it as a question.

Preclears will always try to find what they did that is making
everything so bad for them, by racking their memory for the event.

It just isn't there in the normal sense and can not be accessed
using efforts to 'remember'.

One can however approach this delicately with

"Spot NO question."
"Spot SOME question."

Or better use

"Get the idea of NO QUESTION."
"Get the idea of SOME QUESTION."

Remember NO means pretended NO, so in running the NO question part
of it, you are running the not-isness off the thing like wildfire.

So here is the point.

The being thinks that what is wrong with him is what happened to
him, but he can't remember it.

He can't see it, hear it, smell it, taste it, feel it, remember it,
or imagine it etc.

So when he solo's he tries to LOOK to see what he can't see or is
refusing to see.

But he is refusing to see it, so how can he see it?

You can't stop refusing to see something by simply changing your
mind and ceasing refusing to see it.

Oh no, the time for that is LONG gone. He had his chance on that
one long ago and threw it away, stamped it UTTERLY out of existence in
fact.

But anyhow WHAT happened to him isn't what is hurting him, its the
collateral damage caused by the heavy efforts to NOT see it all these
years. That will burn anyone's brain out.

And when it kicks back during a moment of pause or wonder about it,
it gives him headaches that only a circus in his head could cause.

Wonder is itself a form of question asking.

He is wondering, who, what, where, when, and why it all happened,
and if it did happen, but none of that is the NO he threw in front of it
to hide it all.

Again what happened didn't hurt him, you can do anything to a
thetan forever and he will be fine.

But the minute the thetan tries to put a NO on it, a "this didn't
happen, I don't know about it, it doesn't affect me", then he
traumatizes HIMSELF through the incidental consequences of the damage he
does to his space and his body by shutting it all down as if nothing
happened.

Self deceit, and self deceit about self deceit.

Simple, isn't.

And don't get into the WHY he chose self deceit, it isn't
about character, or flaws, its not about pity, shame, accountability,
blame, regret or remorse. And he won't find it until he finds it,
and when it does it will be acceptable.

So have some faith and thank the Lord (you) for little mercies and
get on with the auditing of NO SELF DECEIT.

THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE AUDITED.

It isn't the WHAT that needs to be audited, its the NO.

Eventually the WHAT will surface, but your preclear will be WAY
better before it does, because he will have stopped smashing his face in
so hard wondering what the hell is wrong with him.

It is the question that kills along with the NO.

And the NO that IS wrong with him, is not back there when it first
happened, its all the god damn times he continued to do it after it
happened right up to present time and into the future.

THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE AUDITED in present time.

HOW TO AUDIT THE PRECLEAR

Some of you would just love to take your whole case by the scruff
of the ball and kick it over the goal post never to see it again.

OK, here's how.

Run to a result, get the idea

There is NOTHING.
There is SOMETHING.

Keep in mind that getting the idea is CAUSATIVE, that things are
created and destroyed in the mere conception of them.

If you want to be cruel about it run,

Get the idea there is nothing.
Good, now verify there is nothing.
Good, get the idea there is something.
Good, now verify there is something.

Now truth is, not one of you has the balls or doggedness to run it,
on yourself or anyone else.

Nothing but us chickens on this planet, so we can break it down a
bit into the areas we discussed above.

Get the idea there is NO sight.
Get the idea there is SOME sight.

Get the idea there is NO hearing.
Get the idea there is SOME hearing.

Get the idea there is NO taste.
Get the idea there is SOME taste.

Get the idea there is NO smell.
Get the idea there is SOME smell.

Get the idea there is NO touch.
Get the idea there is SOME touch.

Get the idea there is NO feeling. (as in emotion)
Get the idea there is SOME feeling.

Get the idea there is NO desire.
Get the idea there is SOME desire.

Then run every item mentioned above on the following:

Sensation, imagination, dreaming, hallucination, memory, and
telepathy.

As the process runs, the NO will come flooding off your preclear,
and items will come forward begging to be discussed.

*THE ITEMS ARE NOT IMPORTANT.*

The items are Q&A on the NO.

Run the NO, let the items flood and let him talk about them, but
don't change the process to start asking about any item, that's total
Q&A and a way high crime.

Look, so he finds his mother used to wash his head in the toilet
and rinsed his hair by flushing it.

That's an ITEM, it is what happened.

So your preclear says, "Great now I know why I was messed up!"

NO, he was messed up because he turned a KNOW into NO.

Question asking like "Why am I messed up?" is being out of session
because it is trying to turn a NO back into a KNOW, BY DRAMATIZING AN
EFFORT TO ASK A QUESTION.

You don't audit by dramatizing, nor by dramatizing asking "What
am I dramatizing."

You might get somethere with

"Get the idea of dramatizing."
"Get the idea of not dramatizing."

Put the SOME and NO in it if it runs hard.

"Get the idea of NO dramatizing."
"Get the idea of SOME dramatizing."

"Get the idea of NO not dramatizing."
"Get the idea of SOME not dramatizing."

No dramatizing is creative peace.

Dramatizing means bringing seriousness, permanence, importance and
pain to an effort or action.

As long as he is asking the question "What happened?", he isn't
running the process of duplicating the effort to make sure that NOTHING
HAD HAPPENED.

The effort to make NO HAPPENING does not include the effort to ask
WHAT HAPPENED!

Do you get this?

Exerting the effort to ask what happened is GUARANTEED to not be
duplicating the effort to not know what happened that needs to be run
out.

Run the NONE OF and the SOME OF, and forget the WHAT OF.

Running the duplication of NO properly, ends the question asking
completely. He will learn that he is KILLING himself with these
questions, it is the question asking that harms him, not the absence or
even presence of answers.

Once he sees this clearly, he will cease utterly the self auditing
of asking questions (called figure figure by LRH), and take up the pure
solo auditing of spotting questions AS THEY HAPPEN IN REAL TIME and
letting them pass like clouds in a summer sky and running SOME and NO on
them.

So your preclear has come down this 3 stage ladder.

Something happens, he does something bad or someone else does
something bad, or maybe its too good to be true, it doesn't matter WHAT
IT IS.

That's the ANSWER of WHAT IS IT?

Then your preclear denied he knew what it was, and created the
question, "Gee what's wrong with me, I wonder if I have forgotten
something?"

Wonder, wonder, wonder.

Wonder kills. Slowly and with pain.

That's the SOME QUESTION, namely WHAT IS IT?

Then lastly he forgets he has the question, that's the NO QUESTION.

He becomes a 'What question?' case when you bring up the subject of
forgotten questions. "Who me, never..."

And then he does this a few million times across a few million
years across a few million games, and that's what your basic 9 to fiver
is, a black cannon ball of forgotten questions, never to be seen again.

We call these guys cannon ball cases, because their space is so
dense and dark no one can audit them, and they are mostly useful for
shoving down a cannon and shooting at castle walls.

And he is headed for the end of time on automatic at full speed.

ITEMS

Items are questions or answers to questions, or anything the
preclear might have or could have ever had a question or an answer
about.

An item can be anything your preclear can be conscious of,
either in general like 'emotions' or in specific 'hate'.

If you simply have to run them, run

Get the idea of NO item.
Get the idea of SOME item.

Kill the Q&A machine that is ruining your preclear's life, kill the
question asking dead.

To make case gain, the mind has to be as still as a pond on a
windless day.

There is nothing else to run, the entirety of your preclear's life
is NO and SOME.

Remember moments of self deceit are HAVINGNESS to your preclear, he
HAD to be handicapped in order to join the game.

But he didn't have to be CRIPPLED so he couldn't play at all or
never ever win.

That's hopelessness. Hope is always hope that one can win
a worthwhile game and thus should get up and try.

When your preclear no longer is willing to get up and try, that's
hopelessness. Some times its feigned to get extra, help and a greater
chance of winning, he can't stand the fear of not knowing, but
eventually the hopelessness about playing becomes real and the only hope
he will find is at the bottom of a bottle.

But it got that way through a long and torturous route as he tried
to balance his need to have a fun game with others, with the increasing
idiocy of their own conditions.

And they were doing the same.

It has to do with acceptance and unacceptance.

Run NO acceptance and SOME acceptance.

Run it, don't get into.

All we want to do is make it fun again.

Being idiots that is, joyous gamers in a game stream.

Then he can go higher if he wants.

Homer

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