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APPRECIATION AND REGRET
> So my next steps would seem to be erasing the 'powerful' valence (so that it
> will no longer lead me to do things that I (my 'higher self') regrets too
> much), then erase the 'weak' valence. So that's my plan.
Higher Self has no regrets, all is designed with pride and majesty
aforethought.
Erase what has regrets, but only after you stop regretting regretting
and see the humor and beauty to it all. The idea that cause flows from
being to being is in fact wrong. Overts and motivators both are a lie.
Erasure only takes place upon recongnition of perfect art and humor.
One does not get rid of what one doesn't want. One only erases what is
too cool to let be any longer. Put it back in the vault of potential
manifestation for another day.
If it ain't cool, you are stuck with it man.
> But these things would seem to be (pacticularly the 'powerful' identity)tied
> up with the GPM legs, so I was wondering if anyone has any processes that
> would handle that?
Spot and poof stupid considerations.
Particularly those of 'must not happen again *FOREVER*'.
Also anything to do with error, mistake, accidents, surprise and
injustice.
If you don't get the joke to it, it won't erase, if you do get
the joke to it, it will erase, that is absolute.
And that's High Cool.
> I will see if I can find the GPM processes in 'SuperScio'. I would also
> think of looking to the beginning of a particular 'valence' to see what
> started it (probably unsucessful opposition of the previous GPM leg), and
> also various other valence processes, like those given to me by the Pilot a
> while ago.
What started it was you engaging in class and tapestry, artful dodge,
writing a comedy-tragedy that only the audience can appreciate. You
become free when you can as-is your stuck condition in the actor and can
become the audience again.
The audience *APPRECIATES* what happened.
The actor regrets.
Run appreciation and regret.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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VALUE FINAL PRODUCT OF BEING AND BECOMING
This is about the posting below.
The valuable *FINAL* product of activity can not be BEING
nor even better BEING.
Instead of BEING maybe you mean BECOMING, better BECOMING.
BEING is above space and time, and has no better or worse.
You HAD better BEING, what are you now doing BECOMING down here in
life?
Life seems to be mostly of games, games are games of BECOMING, so the
VFP of BEING might be quality games of BECOMING.
The VFP of the guy while he is BECOMING some identity or another
inside a game is what ever the game defines as valuable, food, water and
shelter say.
I remind everyone that one can not BE an identity, that's a serious
alter-is. One can only BECOME an identity, which means not just the first
moment of moving into the identity from a state of BEING, but continuing
the identity from that first moment of assumption to the last moment of
deassumption.
English makes this hard, one says "I AM A COP". "I AM BEING A COP".
No, one is BECOMING A COP in space and time, continuously as long as
one is a cop, you see?
If he were BEING a cop, it would be a spaceless and timeless cop.
Thus BEING can not be improved, but BECOMING can be, and thus
quality BECOMING is the VFP of BEING.
Homer
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2015, Clearing Archive Roboposter wrote:
>
> On Dec 6, 6:19?am, Keith <ksj...@invalid.tld> wrote:
>>
>> IMO Oatee powers are mostly a plate of wishful thinking with a healthy
>> heaping of "Scientology processing" to unhinge one's perception of
>> what's actually going on. Mass delusion by agreement. Riddle me this -
>> why don't we ever hear Oatees doing something to help mankind. How about
>> postulating some well-fed children for a change. This "yes I can, no you
>> can't" is getting very silly.
>>
>> In the 40+ years Scientology has plagued mankind, no one even came close
>> to proving the validity of "the state of clear", let alone any oatee
>> powers. At least this is the way this wog sees it.
>>
>> If I'm wrong, forget showing off your powers. Feed some starving
>> children - postulate trucks of food; that will show them unbelievers.
>>
>> Personally, I couldn't care if you can move mountains and leap tall
>> buildings. If you have this ability (even though you argue against
>> demonstrating it), help some people who need it.
>>
>> That would impress me. Not useless banter whether they exist or not. And
>> to be honest, if anything is possible in improving the human spirit and
>> aiding in the discovery of possible new abilities, I would seriously
>> doubt that Scientology would fill this bill.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Keith
>> PS Above is only my opinion.
>>
>
> Dapperdobbs said:
>
> IMO, you are a smart and practical guy Keith, and I get this idea you
> help people as you can, when you can, with your rationality and I'm
> sure you have many friends and will do continue to do very well in
> life. It is important, and people do try to do the best they can even
> in the face of a great many very personal reasons to hate and quit and
> destroy. Those trying to do good by making positive statements make
> easy targets for the tiny minority who would ridicule anything
> positive - I wish I knew the entire 'secret' as to why that is, but I
> see it on the internet all the time - 'trolls' who seem to have no
> other purpose than inciting to riot, and the only logical point these
> 'guys' have is to make wrong. I know it's not that hard to make
> someone right, with just a little looking and a little thought. With a
> little practice, it's possible to learn to ask someone a question with
> real personal interest to them, to try to get them to see a bit more
> about themselves or about others. I know someone who is really good at
> asking good questions, and the guy isn't a Scientologist.
>
> My personal experience in this life has not been an easy one - good
> spots and rough spots, but the bad spots almost killed me. I'm sure
> you're used to hearing people tell you stories of their lives. When I
> ran into Sccn, it was still an OK organization. It had just started
> turning bad. So I left. But the brief contact I had with it literally
> saved me by getting me back on track in life. I got a lot of support
> from my family and friends too. When some smarter guys in Scn left the
> CoS, I got in touch with them, and then I made some real progress. For
> literally one-tenth the money the CoS wanted, I got my OT levels in.
> This was not perfect, understand, but it was good enough for me to
> achieve what I set out to get.
>
> This is hard to express or say, and I'm not trying to be an ass or
> make anyone feel guilty, but somehow some people had more solid
> footing in life than I did. Not many, OK, but to do what I wanted, to
> have what I still want, requires a high level of smarts, and I've met
> guys who have a better grip on things. Through my own efforts, and
> through auditing to straighten out some major strictly personal
> roadblocks, I see that the trouble I got into, I created. I got into
> it. Sure there were a minortiy of people there pushing anyone they
> could into trouble, and a lot of people who didn't know what to do or
> didn't care, and too few people to catche me before I screwed up. I
> also see that getting out of trouble is my doing. Scn was there, but I
> took it and used it.
>
> A few months ago, all on my own, and for the first time in my life,
> fully conscious, fully awake, I moved out of my body. I'm sure there
> are some who might read that and laugh, and think about some guy who's
> now really screwed up. OK with me - I try not to tell someone what to
> think. Part of going exterior at will with full perceptics is the
> simple and very real realization that one exists in one's own
> universe, independently of others. Although agreements do exist, these
> are made (agreed on) by an individual, and he's free to unmake them at
> any time. I'm not talking about intentional betrayals, you understand,
> simply the facts that because I agree to meet someone tomorrow doesn't
> mean I can't go on and live my life inbetween now and then. That's
> really obvious, but when one gets into recollections of past lives,
> and the physical world, it takes on a kind of a bigger weight - that
> is my experience, in any case.
>
> Certainty is a funny thing. If one is certain about something, one is
> certain of it. I don't have any "super abilities" (as much as I
> imagine I would like to have some). I can't move ashtrays - or I
> haven't yet, in any case. I'm not sure I would tell, if I did, but
> then again, I'm not what anyone would call a conformist. One thing I
> am absolutely certain of is that if I do move an ashtray, it will seem
> like the most perfectly normal and natural thing in the world to me,
> personally.
>
> If I may ask you to retread back to where I started, many many years
> ago, I would have thought that if I could ask someone a simple natural
> logical question that led the guy to see more about himself and life,
> I'd be some kind of supernatural genius. That's where I was. Today, I
> sometimes get a good question in, and it seems like an obvious thing
> to me when I do. I kick myself for not having seen that question
> sooner than I did. I deplore the current CoS, and I'm not so sure that
> one large organization was a good idea to begin with, but really, it's
> the usual band of idiots who could screw up boiling an egg for
> breakfast. It's going to be that way for some time, the way I see it.
> But this time around, and next time around, I'm going to try to do
> something about it. You know, I''m sure, that making big changes in a
> society is done on a person-by-person basis. Sure we get leaders, but
> the ideas and visions of those leaders are what makes one guy move,
> then another, and another. It's the idea and the clarity of vision.
> One man can defeat an army of a billion men - if the one man is
> fighting on the right side, others will see that. (Too bad that moron
> Rommel missed that one, until the very end. Intimidation is a result
> of lack of certainty. And if one truly sees another, however
> terrifying, the right question will destroy the most evil - sometimes
> all it takes is a chuckle. Don't fight on their side of the court, but
> stay on your own side, and move on your own time. Churchill proved
> that words and will and certainty are more powerful than Tiger tanks -
> so did some guys in Beijing, standing in front of tanks. This is why
> tyrants want to squish free speech, first.)
>
> So that's what I wanted to float in front of you, my thoughts and
> experience. Scientology the study is good. It won't do everything - an
> individual has to take it, seize it, and put in some careful thought.
> The CoS is currently a bust. I haven't had anything to do with any of
> those guys for many years.
>
> This struggle for Knowledge and for a chance for many individuals to
> make better lives for themselves on their own accord, is what
> Scientology the study is about. The individual is first, Scn is
> something he can take and use to great benefit for himself and for
> those around him.
>
> I'll leave you with a question I'm working on. What is a being's
> principal activity? In other words, what is a being's principal
> product, that can be useful to others? Some on a web forum have said
> one after another, that "Being" is a being's principal activity.
> Sounds logical to me, makes sense, and I can see it and feel it. If
> that's a starting point, then it seems to me that "having a viewpoint"
> is a very similar statement. But that principal product isn't entirely
> satisfying, since obviously there are many sub-products, or products
> that stem from that: knowledge, for example. And one can have
> knowledge about many things. I don't know if Hubbard ever asked that
> or phrased that in those particular words, but if you follow that line
> of questioning, you end up with "The Factors" of Scientology (puts it
> all in a nutshell of three or four pages). And you end up with a lot
> of other Scn stuff as well, like Affinity, Reality, and Communication.
> You end up tracing all he way down to the basics of how to audit. From
> there, moving back from specific "how to's" in a very practical sense,
> moving back towards the philosophy of Scn, all the way back up, you
> end up with Being, again. Scn is just about facilitating better being,
> or being better, for one's own pleasure and benefit, as well as for
> others.
>
> It simply could not be more normal and natural. But look at the furor,
> and the mess, this has created, and continues to create. It isn't that
> it is wrong - far from it. It is that too few get it.
>
> Taking my cue from you, a bright guy: All of the above is a reflection
> of my personal viewpoint and opinion and experience, and should not be
> taken as "the truth" by anyone.
>
> Tue Dec 7 23:27:47 EST 2010
>
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> Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
> Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
> Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
> Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
> not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
>
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VALUE FINAL PRODUCT OF BEING AND BECOMING
This is about the posting below.
The valuable *FINAL* product of activity can not be BEING
nor even better BEING.
Instead of BEING maybe you mean BECOMING, better BECOMING.
BEING is above space and time, and has no better or worse.
You HAD better BEING, what are you now doing BECOMING down here in
life?
Life seems to be mostly of games, games are games of BECOMING, so the
VFP of BEING might be quality games of BECOMING.
The VFP of the guy while he is BECOMING some identity or another
inside a game is what ever the game defines as valuable, food, water and
shelter say.
I remind everyone that one can not BE an identity, that's a serious
alter-is. One can only BECOME an identity, which means not just the first
moment of moving into the identity from a state of BEING, but continuing
the identity from that first moment of assumption to the last moment of
deassumption.
English makes this hard, one says "I AM A COP". "I AM BEING A COP".
No, one is BECOMING A COP in space and time, continuously as long as
one is a cop, you see?
If he were BEING a cop, it would be a spaceless and timeless cop.
Thus BEING can not be improved, but BECOMING can be, and thus
quality BECOMING is the VFP of BEING.
Homer
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On Sun, 8 Feb 2015, Clearing Archive Roboposter wrote:
>
> On Dec 6, 6:19?am, Keith <ksj...@invalid.tld> wrote:
>>
>> IMO Oatee powers are mostly a plate of wishful thinking with a healthy
>> heaping of "Scientology processing" to unhinge one's perception of
>> what's actually going on. Mass delusion by agreement. Riddle me this -
>> why don't we ever hear Oatees doing something to help mankind. How about
>> postulating some well-fed children for a change. This "yes I can, no you
>> can't" is getting very silly.
>>
>> In the 40+ years Scientology has plagued mankind, no one even came close
>> to proving the validity of "the state of clear", let alone any oatee
>> powers. At least this is the way this wog sees it.
>>
>> If I'm wrong, forget showing off your powers. Feed some starving
>> children - postulate trucks of food; that will show them unbelievers.
>>
>> Personally, I couldn't care if you can move mountains and leap tall
>> buildings. If you have this ability (even though you argue against
>> demonstrating it), help some people who need it.
>>
>> That would impress me. Not useless banter whether they exist or not. And
>> to be honest, if anything is possible in improving the human spirit and
>> aiding in the discovery of possible new abilities, I would seriously
>> doubt that Scientology would fill this bill.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Keith
>> PS Above is only my opinion.
>>
>
> Dapperdobbs said:
>
> IMO, you are a smart and practical guy Keith, and I get this idea you
> help people as you can, when you can, with your rationality and I'm
> sure you have many friends and will do continue to do very well in
> life. It is important, and people do try to do the best they can even
> in the face of a great many very personal reasons to hate and quit and
> destroy. Those trying to do good by making positive statements make
> easy targets for the tiny minority who would ridicule anything
> positive - I wish I knew the entire 'secret' as to why that is, but I
> see it on the internet all the time - 'trolls' who seem to have no
> other purpose than inciting to riot, and the only logical point these
> 'guys' have is to make wrong. I know it's not that hard to make
> someone right, with just a little looking and a little thought. With a
> little practice, it's possible to learn to ask someone a question with
> real personal interest to them, to try to get them to see a bit more
> about themselves or about others. I know someone who is really good at
> asking good questions, and the guy isn't a Scientologist.
>
> My personal experience in this life has not been an easy one - good
> spots and rough spots, but the bad spots almost killed me. I'm sure
> you're used to hearing people tell you stories of their lives. When I
> ran into Sccn, it was still an OK organization. It had just started
> turning bad. So I left. But the brief contact I had with it literally
> saved me by getting me back on track in life. I got a lot of support
> from my family and friends too. When some smarter guys in Scn left the
> CoS, I got in touch with them, and then I made some real progress. For
> literally one-tenth the money the CoS wanted, I got my OT levels in.
> This was not perfect, understand, but it was good enough for me to
> achieve what I set out to get.
>
> This is hard to express or say, and I'm not trying to be an ass or
> make anyone feel guilty, but somehow some people had more solid
> footing in life than I did. Not many, OK, but to do what I wanted, to
> have what I still want, requires a high level of smarts, and I've met
> guys who have a better grip on things. Through my own efforts, and
> through auditing to straighten out some major strictly personal
> roadblocks, I see that the trouble I got into, I created. I got into
> it. Sure there were a minortiy of people there pushing anyone they
> could into trouble, and a lot of people who didn't know what to do or
> didn't care, and too few people to catche me before I screwed up. I
> also see that getting out of trouble is my doing. Scn was there, but I
> took it and used it.
>
> A few months ago, all on my own, and for the first time in my life,
> fully conscious, fully awake, I moved out of my body. I'm sure there
> are some who might read that and laugh, and think about some guy who's
> now really screwed up. OK with me - I try not to tell someone what to
> think. Part of going exterior at will with full perceptics is the
> simple and very real realization that one exists in one's own
> universe, independently of others. Although agreements do exist, these
> are made (agreed on) by an individual, and he's free to unmake them at
> any time. I'm not talking about intentional betrayals, you understand,
> simply the facts that because I agree to meet someone tomorrow doesn't
> mean I can't go on and live my life inbetween now and then. That's
> really obvious, but when one gets into recollections of past lives,
> and the physical world, it takes on a kind of a bigger weight - that
> is my experience, in any case.
>
> Certainty is a funny thing. If one is certain about something, one is
> certain of it. I don't have any "super abilities" (as much as I
> imagine I would like to have some). I can't move ashtrays - or I
> haven't yet, in any case. I'm not sure I would tell, if I did, but
> then again, I'm not what anyone would call a conformist. One thing I
> am absolutely certain of is that if I do move an ashtray, it will seem
> like the most perfectly normal and natural thing in the world to me,
> personally.
>
> If I may ask you to retread back to where I started, many many years
> ago, I would have thought that if I could ask someone a simple natural
> logical question that led the guy to see more about himself and life,
> I'd be some kind of supernatural genius. That's where I was. Today, I
> sometimes get a good question in, and it seems like an obvious thing
> to me when I do. I kick myself for not having seen that question
> sooner than I did. I deplore the current CoS, and I'm not so sure that
> one large organization was a good idea to begin with, but really, it's
> the usual band of idiots who could screw up boiling an egg for
> breakfast. It's going to be that way for some time, the way I see it.
> But this time around, and next time around, I'm going to try to do
> something about it. You know, I''m sure, that making big changes in a
> society is done on a person-by-person basis. Sure we get leaders, but
> the ideas and visions of those leaders are what makes one guy move,
> then another, and another. It's the idea and the clarity of vision.
> One man can defeat an army of a billion men - if the one man is
> fighting on the right side, others will see that. (Too bad that moron
> Rommel missed that one, until the very end. Intimidation is a result
> of lack of certainty. And if one truly sees another, however
> terrifying, the right question will destroy the most evil - sometimes
> all it takes is a chuckle. Don't fight on their side of the court, but
> stay on your own side, and move on your own time. Churchill proved
> that words and will and certainty are more powerful than Tiger tanks -
> so did some guys in Beijing, standing in front of tanks. This is why
> tyrants want to squish free speech, first.)
>
> So that's what I wanted to float in front of you, my thoughts and
> experience. Scientology the study is good. It won't do everything - an
> individual has to take it, seize it, and put in some careful thought.
> The CoS is currently a bust. I haven't had anything to do with any of
> those guys for many years.
>
> This struggle for Knowledge and for a chance for many individuals to
> make better lives for themselves on their own accord, is what
> Scientology the study is about. The individual is first, Scn is
> something he can take and use to great benefit for himself and for
> those around him.
>
> I'll leave you with a question I'm working on. What is a being's
> principal activity? In other words, what is a being's principal
> product, that can be useful to others? Some on a web forum have said
> one after another, that "Being" is a being's principal activity.
> Sounds logical to me, makes sense, and I can see it and feel it. If
> that's a starting point, then it seems to me that "having a viewpoint"
> is a very similar statement. But that principal product isn't entirely
> satisfying, since obviously there are many sub-products, or products
> that stem from that: knowledge, for example. And one can have
> knowledge about many things. I don't know if Hubbard ever asked that
> or phrased that in those particular words, but if you follow that line
> of questioning, you end up with "The Factors" of Scientology (puts it
> all in a nutshell of three or four pages). And you end up with a lot
> of other Scn stuff as well, like Affinity, Reality, and Communication.
> You end up tracing all he way down to the basics of how to audit. From
> there, moving back from specific "how to's" in a very practical sense,
> moving back towards the philosophy of Scn, all the way back up, you
> end up with Being, again. Scn is just about facilitating better being,
> or being better, for one's own pleasure and benefit, as well as for
> others.
>
> It simply could not be more normal and natural. But look at the furor,
> and the mess, this has created, and continues to create. It isn't that
> it is wrong - far from it. It is that too few get it.
>
> Taking my cue from you, a bright guy: All of the above is a reflection
> of my personal viewpoint and opinion and experience, and should not be
> taken as "the truth" by anyone.
>
> Tue Dec 7 23:27:47 EST 2010
>
> ================ http://www.clearing.org ====================
> Sun Feb 8 00:06:01 EST 2015
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> ================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===================
> Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
> Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
> Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
> Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
> not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Homer Wilson Smith Clean Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink
> (607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
> homer@lightlink.com Is that too much to ask? http://www.lightlink.com
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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FINDING GAMES SPHERE ARCHETYPES
Enid,
So as I remember the Scientology way to list for this is:
On each dynamic, the infinite, spirit, MEST, life, mankind, career,
family and self:
"Who or what are you opposing."
Desire to imprison, enslave, pin down, shut up, murder, kamikaze or
suicide mission them into the ground forever is a good indicator.
I used to take "what" to mean an object, but I understand it now as a
class of who's, ie Margaret my mother is a who, mothers is a what.
John McMaster said that the preclear was not PTS to a who but
to a what.
Probably the who or what is never an object or symbol.
The who makes a terminal, a communication end point that the preclear
is moving in on for the kill, closing terminals with.
The what makes the indentity that has been assigned to the who by
the preclear and which he is fighting to the death.
Identities are always class labels for groups of specific who's.
The what is always a class label for the who's that belong to
that class.
The actual who may have nothing to do with the what that the preclear
has assigned to the who, but the preclear thinks the who personifies the
what.
Then if you find a who terminal (Margaret), list for what that terminal
would represent to you, to find the what (mothers, parents, women etc).
Then once you have a Rocket Reading Reliable Item, say its parents, run
"Who or what would oppose that item (parents)?"
In this case the who is the preclear of course, but he may find cross
flows of others who also oppose the first item (parents).
If he finds a what then you have the preclears identity.
If he find anothers who, then list for what that who terminal would
represent to you, to again find the class item what.
That should find the what that the preclear is being, say it is
orphaned child.
Then spot the problem in present time between the two whats,
parents and an orphaned child, and run your fleshing out of the roles of
both sides in present time, including computations, ARC Breaks,
continuing present time Overt/Withholds, and Problems of long duration,
avoiding any auditing of any past dones etc.
Present time super overts are critical, super overts contain
forever death or demise, death forever and hell forever.
The problem between the whats is the fulcrum point that all the
rest rely on to persist.
I got this right?
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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FINDING GAMES SPHERE ARCHETYPES
Enid,
So as I remember the Scientology way to list for this is:
On each dynamic, the infinite, spirit, MEST, life, mankind, career,
family and self:
"Who or what are you opposing."
Desire to imprison, enslave, pin down, shut up, murder, kamikaze or
suicide mission them into the ground forever is a good indicator.
I used to take "what" to mean an object, but I understand it now as a
class of who's, ie Margaret my mother is a who, mothers is a what.
John McMaster said that the preclear was not PTS to a who but
to a what.
Probably the who or what is never an object or symbol.
The who makes a terminal, a communication end point that the preclear
is moving in on for the kill, closing terminals with.
The what makes the indentity that has been assigned to the who by
the preclear and which he is fighting to the death.
Identities are always class labels for groups of specific who's.
The what is always a class label for the who's that belong to
that class.
The actual who may have nothing to do with the what that the preclear
has assigned to the who, but the preclear thinks the who personifies the
what.
Then if you find a who terminal (Margaret), list for what that terminal
would represent to you, to find the what (mothers, parents, women etc).
Then once you have a Rocket Reading Reliable Item, say its parents, run
"Who or what would oppose that item (parents)?"
In this case the who is the preclear of course, but he may find cross
flows of others who also oppose the first item (parents).
If he finds a what then you have the preclears identity.
If he find anothers who, then list for what that who terminal would
represent to you, to again find the class item what.
That should find the what that the preclear is being, say it is
orphaned child.
Then spot the problem in present time between the two whats,
parents and an orphaned child, and run your fleshing out of the roles of
both sides in present time, including computations, ARC Breaks,
continuing present time Overt/Withholds, and Problems of long duration,
avoiding any auditing of any past dones etc.
Present time super overts are critical, super overts contain
forever death or demise, death forever and hell forever.
The problem between the whats is the fulcrum point that all the
rest rely on to persist.
I got this right?
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ECO5 (fwd)
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POGROMS
In our efforts to improve on Mother Nature and natural selection
we seem to fall into two camps both of which lead to disaster.
The first camp decides it wants to help mother nature in the natural
selection process. They of course elect themselves as the fittest and
proceed proactively to select out everyone else. This leads to the
holocaust and other atrocities of the past. The victims here are obvious.
The second camp decides it wants to oppose mother nature in the
natural selection process. They elect EVERYONE as the fittest and proceed
to proactively make sure that no one gets selected out. The victims here
are those burdened with the survival of others.
The pendulum swings as the victims of each pogrom react by trying to
elect themselves into protected species status.
Many groups at this time are lobbying for protected species status.
Homer
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POGROMS
In our efforts to improve on Mother Nature and natural selection
we seem to fall into two camps both of which lead to disaster.
The first camp decides it wants to help mother nature in the natural
selection process. They of course elect themselves as the fittest and
proceed proactively to select out everyone else. This leads to the
holocaust and other atrocities of the past. The victims here are obvious.
The second camp decides it wants to oppose mother nature in the
natural selection process. They elect EVERYONE as the fittest and proceed
to proactively make sure that no one gets selected out. The victims here
are those burdened with the survival of others.
The pendulum swings as the victims of each pogrom react by trying to
elect themselves into protected species status.
Many groups at this time are lobbying for protected species status.
Homer
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04/20/11 Wednesday 4:50pm EST
This was written prior to NO and SOME, so run NO and SOME
on all items below.
Homer
Session Notes: 7/7/1999
TIME AND PSYCHOSIS
Since the recreation or starting of anything again in its original
space and time creates an as-isness and thus its vanishment, it follows
that becoming totally devoted to stopping something by any other means is
nuts, resulting in persistence forever and total failure to stop.
Thus LRH SAID the "person goes psycho on any subject the moment he
becomes totally devoted to stopping it."
This is because he has let go of the start point of the cycle and is
totally fixated on the stop point of the cycle. By going back to the
start point completely he can stop anything he wishes, so concentrating on
the stop point of the cycle results in certain failure, persistence and
thus psychosis.
Ron also said that the primary arbitrary was time.
The recent posting on OT IX in alt.scientology.binaries expands
greatly on the nature of Incident I and clarifies certain issues that
were heretofore collapsed into a single event from previous readings
of it.
Apparently Incident I is not a single incident as we normally
understand it, its a long drawn out process covering quite a bit of
'happening', from the snap through the light and to the darkness, and was
the seminal incident to the creation of the MEST universe as we know it
and live it today. Also separation from others and the all that is. One
became interiorized by withdrawing from others, so there was an I am here
and you are there, and that helped create and solidify space itself.
Interiorization doesn't mean necessarily being stuck in a body,
that's a small subset of being interiorized. More widely it means being
here, and not there.
Inc I is also the incident where time was inserted into the
perception of existence and is thus 'the beginning of track'. Lots of
stuff existed prior to Incident I, but it was in a timeless universe
without consecutive sequence as we know it, an all-at-onceness.
Since time itself was a solution to a problem, time itself became a
problem as all solutions do by design. Thus one finds the thetan very
much in the throes of trying to control time, to stop time, to change
time, to make time go faster, slower, backwards, return it to zero etc.
Anything but START it again, don't you see?
So this fits the definition of nuts above and immediately
indicates a process to run.
"Start some time."
Or
"Perceive a new now."
Run repetitively to EP: Timelessness
Other versions for the solo auditor are,
"Perceive a new now."
"Perceive an old then."
That is very similar to time breaking and UCP.
Also get the efforts to
"Speed time up"
"Slow time down"
"Stop time"
"Reverse time"
"Go before time"
"Make time"
"Destroy time"
"Roll your own...."
Also be aware that there are multiple beings, multiple bodies,
multiple higher and lower layers of this universe, multiple higher, lower
and other universes, and multiple time lines all going on *NOW* in the
composite called the human being.
Spotting the various parts of the composite goes a long ways towards
loosening up the intractable solidities.
It's not just *ONE*.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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This was written prior to NO and SOME, so run NO and SOME
on all items below.
Homer
Session Notes: 7/7/1999
TIME AND PSYCHOSIS
Since the recreation or starting of anything again in its original
space and time creates an as-isness and thus its vanishment, it follows
that becoming totally devoted to stopping something by any other means is
nuts, resulting in persistence forever and total failure to stop.
Thus LRH SAID the "person goes psycho on any subject the moment he
becomes totally devoted to stopping it."
This is because he has let go of the start point of the cycle and is
totally fixated on the stop point of the cycle. By going back to the
start point completely he can stop anything he wishes, so concentrating on
the stop point of the cycle results in certain failure, persistence and
thus psychosis.
Ron also said that the primary arbitrary was time.
The recent posting on OT IX in alt.scientology.binaries expands
greatly on the nature of Incident I and clarifies certain issues that
were heretofore collapsed into a single event from previous readings
of it.
Apparently Incident I is not a single incident as we normally
understand it, its a long drawn out process covering quite a bit of
'happening', from the snap through the light and to the darkness, and was
the seminal incident to the creation of the MEST universe as we know it
and live it today. Also separation from others and the all that is. One
became interiorized by withdrawing from others, so there was an I am here
and you are there, and that helped create and solidify space itself.
Interiorization doesn't mean necessarily being stuck in a body,
that's a small subset of being interiorized. More widely it means being
here, and not there.
Inc I is also the incident where time was inserted into the
perception of existence and is thus 'the beginning of track'. Lots of
stuff existed prior to Incident I, but it was in a timeless universe
without consecutive sequence as we know it, an all-at-onceness.
Since time itself was a solution to a problem, time itself became a
problem as all solutions do by design. Thus one finds the thetan very
much in the throes of trying to control time, to stop time, to change
time, to make time go faster, slower, backwards, return it to zero etc.
Anything but START it again, don't you see?
So this fits the definition of nuts above and immediately
indicates a process to run.
"Start some time."
Or
"Perceive a new now."
Run repetitively to EP: Timelessness
Other versions for the solo auditor are,
"Perceive a new now."
"Perceive an old then."
That is very similar to time breaking and UCP.
Also get the efforts to
"Speed time up"
"Slow time down"
"Stop time"
"Reverse time"
"Go before time"
"Make time"
"Destroy time"
"Roll your own...."
Also be aware that there are multiple beings, multiple bodies,
multiple higher and lower layers of this universe, multiple higher, lower
and other universes, and multiple time lines all going on *NOW* in the
composite called the human being.
Spotting the various parts of the composite goes a long ways towards
loosening up the intractable solidities.
It's not just *ONE*.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ADORE444 (fwd)
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CLEAR GLASS
People need to be drilled on this until they can't get it wrong any
more.
Put a person in front of a wall with two holes in it.
In the left hole put a clear pane of glass, and in the other hole a
very high resolution LCD display.
On the other side of the wall, place a red apple on a table,
viewable from both holes.
Also connect a high resolution video camera to the LCD screen, so
the person sees as close to identical experiences when looking through
the clear glass, and looking through the LCD screen.
Make sure they understand thoroughly the two different set ups, and
all the causal connection pathways among them.
Then ask them
"What is different between the left and the right hole?"
"What is similar between the left and right hole?"
Word clear direct and indirect, via and via free.
Then have them spot their eyes.
Have them describe the differences and similarities between seeing
the scene with their eyes to seeing the scene through the glass and the
lcd screen.
When they finally cognite that what they see through their eyes is
like the LCD screen and indirect, ask them
"What then are you seeing directly?"
Run until they cognite they are conscious and are seeing their
conscious experiences directly.
Homer
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not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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CLEAR GLASS
People need to be drilled on this until they can't get it wrong any
more.
Put a person in front of a wall with two holes in it.
In the left hole put a clear pane of glass, and in the other hole a
very high resolution LCD display.
On the other side of the wall, place a red apple on a table,
viewable from both holes.
Also connect a high resolution video camera to the LCD screen, so
the person sees as close to identical experiences when looking through
the clear glass, and looking through the LCD screen.
Make sure they understand thoroughly the two different set ups, and
all the causal connection pathways among them.
Then ask them
"What is different between the left and the right hole?"
"What is similar between the left and right hole?"
Word clear direct and indirect, via and via free.
Then have them spot their eyes.
Have them describe the differences and similarities between seeing
the scene with their eyes to seeing the scene through the glass and the
lcd screen.
When they finally cognite that what they see through their eyes is
like the LCD screen and indirect, ask them
"What then are you seeing directly?"
Run until they cognite they are conscious and are seeing their
conscious experiences directly.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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THE SCIENCE OF CERTAINTY
The science of certainty has been written for the scientist lest it
fall into the hands of new age crystal gazers and religious know
nothings and turned into just another monument to bigotry.
The joke is, the new age crystal gazers get it, the Phd's don't.
The soullessness of modern day science is not a shining
example of truth either.
Their highest pinnacle of success has been the science of
UNCERTAINTY leading them down the garden path into worlds of virtual
reality, illusion and delusion, all the while thinking it is actual,
like someone lost in an arcade game.
The final delusion is that consciousness is a process in the
physical universe, when in truth the physical universe is a process in
consciousness.
The game player is not OF the game.
If you can even handle the possibility of this without dismissing
it out of hand, you are part of the solution rather than part of the
problem.
The light of perfect certainty illuminates the existence of the
soul because it IS the soul. The soul is the answer to the question
"What is it that sees red and blue and what is it that is certain that
it sees red and blue, i.e. two different colors?"
The soul is the light bulb seeing itself.
LOOKER and LOOKED-AT are one.
There are those who would prefer that you not know you exist or
that you live in doubt of any certainty.
Their intent is not good.
Know them then by their lack of perfect certainty on ANY matter.
And by minds polluted to the hilt with 'certainties' that can not
possibly be.
They doubt that they doubt, and they doubt that they doubt that
they doubt.
They doubt by POLICY, and they doubt that too, which they then
claim is consistent with policy! But that too they doubt in order to
further remain consistent with policy.
And they walk on the streets among us, otherwise intelligent and
'productive' human beings in the games of life.
However if you can't attain perfect certainty that you doubt
things, your conscious light is out or flickering on the edge.
This is a mental illness that is not good for Earth.
If you aren't perfectly certain you exist, then please stop
breathing.
I mean really, to hell with you, if you can't be certain you exist,
then you won't be certain you are in hell when you get there. So what
difference would it make?
There are those that hate Earth, that hate life, that hate trying
to be here and make a go of it.
They can't wait to get to heaven, and don't care how they get
there, and they don't care whether they leave the Earth growing green or
glowing green.
This is the legacy of bigots, those lost in the false light of
false certainties and blind to the true light of true certainties, the
only true certainties there are, I AM, I WANT, I KNOW and I DO (CAUSE).
It is as simple as that.
But they will tell you that I AM, I WANT (CARE, GIVE A DAMN), I
KNOW, and I DO are delusions of the brain falling for its own illusions.
The false certainties can only last while there is no light of true
certainty, so it is imperative that the Proof and true certainties be
buried out existence for things to continue on the road to ruin.
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
Learning with certainty is impossible across a space time distance,
therefore there is no distance between you and anything you can perceive
with certainty.
You have never seen the physical universe, and can not know whether
it exists or not. All you have ever seen is your conscious rendition of
it, your personal dream of it, and that is all you can be certain of.
The road to ruin is built by bricks of bigotry.
The moral superiority of those going to heaven FOREVER and the
irredeemable moral inferiority of those going to hell FOREVER.
The other side of bigotry is class.
"Class is an attitude, that *ALL* should live forever and be my
friend. Desire is sovereign.
This dream ends forever when the circle of friends are all holding
hands again." - Adore http://www.adore.com
Religion has rarely tried to advance the world in present time,
science at least has tried, all of chemical, biological, atomic and
genetic warfare to the contrary. These are the weapons of science in
the hands of animals and bigots.
What religion will do with The Proof I shudder to think, but
science should understand that perfect certainty is the bridge between
science and religion, between the physical and the spiritual.
Nothing physical can be certain of anything, and thus we *DEFINE*
that which can be certain of I AM, I WANT, I KNOW and I DO, to be the
spiritual, to be of the Spirit, the timeless, spaceless, dimensionless
conscious unit.
Certainty of implies zero dimensionality of.
The single greatest difference between the physical and the
spiritual is this one thing called perfect certainty.
That which has it is spiritual, that which doesn't is not.
Science should understand that consciousness is a window between
the physical universe and God, the great multi I AM being, and that each
and every one of us is one of those I AM's in carnation.
Thus one does not have to go far to find an instantiation of God,
and one does not have to send to find for whom the bell tolls.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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THE SCIENCE OF CERTAINTY
The science of certainty has been written for the scientist lest it
fall into the hands of new age crystal gazers and religious know
nothings and turned into just another monument to bigotry.
The joke is, the new age crystal gazers get it, the Phd's don't.
The soullessness of modern day science is not a shining
example of truth either.
Their highest pinnacle of success has been the science of
UNCERTAINTY leading them down the garden path into worlds of virtual
reality, illusion and delusion, all the while thinking it is actual,
like someone lost in an arcade game.
The final delusion is that consciousness is a process in the
physical universe, when in truth the physical universe is a process in
consciousness.
The game player is not OF the game.
If you can even handle the possibility of this without dismissing
it out of hand, you are part of the solution rather than part of the
problem.
The light of perfect certainty illuminates the existence of the
soul because it IS the soul. The soul is the answer to the question
"What is it that sees red and blue and what is it that is certain that
it sees red and blue, i.e. two different colors?"
The soul is the light bulb seeing itself.
LOOKER and LOOKED-AT are one.
There are those who would prefer that you not know you exist or
that you live in doubt of any certainty.
Their intent is not good.
Know them then by their lack of perfect certainty on ANY matter.
And by minds polluted to the hilt with 'certainties' that can not
possibly be.
They doubt that they doubt, and they doubt that they doubt that
they doubt.
They doubt by POLICY, and they doubt that too, which they then
claim is consistent with policy! But that too they doubt in order to
further remain consistent with policy.
And they walk on the streets among us, otherwise intelligent and
'productive' human beings in the games of life.
However if you can't attain perfect certainty that you doubt
things, your conscious light is out or flickering on the edge.
This is a mental illness that is not good for Earth.
If you aren't perfectly certain you exist, then please stop
breathing.
I mean really, to hell with you, if you can't be certain you exist,
then you won't be certain you are in hell when you get there. So what
difference would it make?
There are those that hate Earth, that hate life, that hate trying
to be here and make a go of it.
They can't wait to get to heaven, and don't care how they get
there, and they don't care whether they leave the Earth growing green or
glowing green.
This is the legacy of bigots, those lost in the false light of
false certainties and blind to the true light of true certainties, the
only true certainties there are, I AM, I WANT, I KNOW and I DO (CAUSE).
It is as simple as that.
But they will tell you that I AM, I WANT (CARE, GIVE A DAMN), I
KNOW, and I DO are delusions of the brain falling for its own illusions.
The false certainties can only last while there is no light of true
certainty, so it is imperative that the Proof and true certainties be
buried out existence for things to continue on the road to ruin.
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
Learning with certainty is impossible across a space time distance,
therefore there is no distance between you and anything you can perceive
with certainty.
You have never seen the physical universe, and can not know whether
it exists or not. All you have ever seen is your conscious rendition of
it, your personal dream of it, and that is all you can be certain of.
The road to ruin is built by bricks of bigotry.
The moral superiority of those going to heaven FOREVER and the
irredeemable moral inferiority of those going to hell FOREVER.
The other side of bigotry is class.
"Class is an attitude, that *ALL* should live forever and be my
friend. Desire is sovereign.
This dream ends forever when the circle of friends are all holding
hands again." - Adore http://www.adore.com
Religion has rarely tried to advance the world in present time,
science at least has tried, all of chemical, biological, atomic and
genetic warfare to the contrary. These are the weapons of science in
the hands of animals and bigots.
What religion will do with The Proof I shudder to think, but
science should understand that perfect certainty is the bridge between
science and religion, between the physical and the spiritual.
Nothing physical can be certain of anything, and thus we *DEFINE*
that which can be certain of I AM, I WANT, I KNOW and I DO, to be the
spiritual, to be of the Spirit, the timeless, spaceless, dimensionless
conscious unit.
Certainty of implies zero dimensionality of.
The single greatest difference between the physical and the
spiritual is this one thing called perfect certainty.
That which has it is spiritual, that which doesn't is not.
Science should understand that consciousness is a window between
the physical universe and God, the great multi I AM being, and that each
and every one of us is one of those I AM's in carnation.
Thus one does not have to go far to find an instantiation of God,
and one does not have to send to find for whom the bell tolls.
Homer
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink (607)
277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY homer@lightlink.com
In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com
Tue Mar 13 00:39:45 EST 2007
================ http://www.clearing.org ====================
Sun Feb 1 03:06:01 EST 2015
ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/homer/adore468.memo
Send mail to archive@lightlink.com saying help
================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===================
Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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