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VALUE
My view.
The value of your labor to another is the amount of useful energy
the other can get out of your product, not the amount of useful energy
that you put into making your product.
Value = useful energy out, not useful energy in.
The farmer who spends all day long planting stones in his corn
field has done the same amount of labor as the farmer who spends all day
long planting corn seeds that grow and produce a return, but the value
of the first farmer's work is nil.
Value does not equal labor put in.
It is true that products which need a lot of labor and useful
energy put into them in order to be made, tend to command a higher price
at the sale, but only because they are in demand in the first place
because of their potential useful energy out, and because they are more
scarce due to the higher demands of manufacture and thus the richer will
out bid the poorer driving the price up.
If there is no useful energy out, there is no value to the product
no matter how much labor or useful energy went into making it.
Value is determined ONLY by the amount of useful energy people can
get out of a product and by their demand or need for that useful energy.
If people have no demand or need for the useful energy to be gotten
out of your product, or if there is no useful energy to be gotten out of
your product, people will not value it, unless they value useless energy
or entropy (which is the opposite of useful energy).
Fair exchange is when people trade equal amounts of useful energy
for useful energy. Sometimes smaller amounts of a scarcer more
necessary form of energy will be considered equal in value to larger
amounts of more abundant less necessary energy.
If someone is cold during the winter, he may be willing to trade
two gallons of car fuel which he has for 1 gallon of heating fuel which
he doesn't have, even though two gallons of car fuel has twice the
energy content of 1 gallon of heating fuel.
So equality of value needs to take into consideration both the raw
amount of the energy traded AND its usefullness or immediate need.
'Useful energy' doesn't have to be physical energy, it can be art
and aesthetics too, it can also be free time to play or rest.
Everything that is valued by human beings is useful energy or potential
energy of one form or another.
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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DEMONS
Only demons cackle and bash.
One never responds to demons.
It validates their overt as worthy of refute.
Their intent is to make wrong with ridicule and contempt.
Nothing wrong with making wrong, but they know you are right.
That's why they bash.
No one believes demon natter, not even themselves.
Sad little demons.
Their upset is with themselves, that they are so ugly and destructive and
have no ability to do anything about it.
Audit with who are you, what are you, how many are you.
And anything the hell else you can think of that frees them from
their grave.
Homer
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DEMONS
Only demons cackle and bash.
One never responds to demons.
It validates their overt as worthy of refute.
Their intent is to make wrong with ridicule and contempt.
Nothing wrong with making wrong, but they know you are right.
That's why they bash.
No one believes demon natter, not even themselves.
Sad little demons.
Their upset is with themselves, that they are so ugly and destructive and
have no ability to do anything about it.
Audit with who are you, what are you, how many are you.
And anything the hell else you can think of that frees them from
their grave.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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ROGERS (HERE-I-YAM@email.msn.com) wrote:
>Homer Wilson Smith <homer@lightlink.com> wrote in message
>> The only way a thetan can stick something to himself, is to
>> create it willingly with full Omni Sovereignty, then deny he did, or
>> trick himself into thinking he didn't.
>>
>> So stuckness always has 'violation of Sovereignty' as part of the
>> glue.
>Oh I getcha now. In other words, denial of self?
Well yes, if one assumes that Self is natively Omni Sovereign.
>Of course, here on earth, playing the meat-body game, we HAVE to have air,
>water, food, protection from the elements... and little rubber duckies.
Yes, MEST runs on must haves and must not haves, too much of, and
too little of, which forms a myriad of thetan - mest conflicts, it is
useful to list for these.
Duplication, doing it again, making more of it, making it worse
is death to a MEST machine which is built to learn and never go it again.
Running one's home universe as a MEST machine however is death to
a thetan, because the thetan depends on doing it again to vanish it.
Push once it sticks, push again and it pops free.
Adore calls that the 'Caps Lock Key' principle of perfect
replication. Create it once, it sticks, Create it again it vanishes.
That's a lower level effort harmonic of LRH's perfect duplicate.
Also in the too much of and too little of department, it is
useful to list for what.
Too much of ... ? Too little of ... ?
The items found then become a gateway for further auditing, for
these form the incidents that pc is dramatizing.
The generalities of the incident will be seriousness, importance,
permanence and pain, the specifics will be tits or whatever.
Nothing worse than a tit trying to think.
"Go away kid, don't bother me!"
Also terrible trio can be run constructively even on low tone
thetans if you allow them to run the dispense with until they come up
with a having item. And rather than run it on present time MEST
objects, which I find execreable, just run it in general, life,
universes, everything.
"Tell me something you could dispense with?
Tell me something you could let be?
Tell me something you could have?"
Define HAVE as "It's YOURS to own and control".
If you allow them to run on the dispense with for a long time
without forcing the haves, suddenly real haves will come up and
present themselves with major physical and other changes in the
somatic field.
I hated trio until I soloed this as above.
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ROGERS (HERE-I-YAM@email.msn.com) wrote:
>Homer Wilson Smith <homer@lightlink.com> wrote in message
>> The only way a thetan can stick something to himself, is to
>> create it willingly with full Omni Sovereignty, then deny he did, or
>> trick himself into thinking he didn't.
>>
>> So stuckness always has 'violation of Sovereignty' as part of the
>> glue.
>Oh I getcha now. In other words, denial of self?
Well yes, if one assumes that Self is natively Omni Sovereign.
>Of course, here on earth, playing the meat-body game, we HAVE to have air,
>water, food, protection from the elements... and little rubber duckies.
Yes, MEST runs on must haves and must not haves, too much of, and
too little of, which forms a myriad of thetan - mest conflicts, it is
useful to list for these.
Duplication, doing it again, making more of it, making it worse
is death to a MEST machine which is built to learn and never go it again.
Running one's home universe as a MEST machine however is death to
a thetan, because the thetan depends on doing it again to vanish it.
Push once it sticks, push again and it pops free.
Adore calls that the 'Caps Lock Key' principle of perfect
replication. Create it once, it sticks, Create it again it vanishes.
That's a lower level effort harmonic of LRH's perfect duplicate.
Also in the too much of and too little of department, it is
useful to list for what.
Too much of ... ? Too little of ... ?
The items found then become a gateway for further auditing, for
these form the incidents that pc is dramatizing.
The generalities of the incident will be seriousness, importance,
permanence and pain, the specifics will be tits or whatever.
Nothing worse than a tit trying to think.
"Go away kid, don't bother me!"
Also terrible trio can be run constructively even on low tone
thetans if you allow them to run the dispense with until they come up
with a having item. And rather than run it on present time MEST
objects, which I find execreable, just run it in general, life,
universes, everything.
"Tell me something you could dispense with?
Tell me something you could let be?
Tell me something you could have?"
Define HAVE as "It's YOURS to own and control".
If you allow them to run on the dispense with for a long time
without forcing the haves, suddenly real haves will come up and
present themselves with major physical and other changes in the
somatic field.
I hated trio until I soloed this as above.
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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> Another approach once you have an idea what the roadblock is, would be to
> find out what the person needs to move forward eg "what would make you
> strong enough, safe enough, or make it Ok to get better?" then work on
> achieving that first.
This won't work by definition.
Basic dicotomies operating here are
Danger Safety
No Danger No Safetey
Infinite Danger Infinite Safety
Too much Danger Too much Safety
Too little Danger Too little Saftey
Answer to question 'What would happen if you found out?' is Self
Obliteration.
So then run on entire tone scale from Sovereignty on down to
Spiritual Death, including humor, seriousness, importance, permanence
and pain:
"What ______ would you be willing to find out?"
i.e.
What happiness would you be willing to find out?
What interest, conservatism, boredom, antagonism, anger, fear,
sorrow, apathy, guilt, blame, shame etc, would you be willing to find
out?
That should provide some movement and some VGI's.
The Black V is looking at an inconceivably bad future, in fact
its so bad he doesn't have one, eventually he becomes mortal so he can
die and end it all for good one day.
"Earlier similar lifetime you were mortal?" might run after the
above starts to open up, but he has to be able to see first.
Seeing, looking, knowing, emoting, feeling, understanding, being
the effect of, being the cause of etc, are one humongous package. It's
not just a Black 5, but a Black quite a few things.
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> Another approach once you have an idea what the roadblock is, would be to
> find out what the person needs to move forward eg "what would make you
> strong enough, safe enough, or make it Ok to get better?" then work on
> achieving that first.
This won't work by definition.
Basic dicotomies operating here are
Danger Safety
No Danger No Safetey
Infinite Danger Infinite Safety
Too much Danger Too much Safety
Too little Danger Too little Saftey
Answer to question 'What would happen if you found out?' is Self
Obliteration.
So then run on entire tone scale from Sovereignty on down to
Spiritual Death, including humor, seriousness, importance, permanence
and pain:
"What ______ would you be willing to find out?"
i.e.
What happiness would you be willing to find out?
What interest, conservatism, boredom, antagonism, anger, fear,
sorrow, apathy, guilt, blame, shame etc, would you be willing to find
out?
That should provide some movement and some VGI's.
The Black V is looking at an inconceivably bad future, in fact
its so bad he doesn't have one, eventually he becomes mortal so he can
die and end it all for good one day.
"Earlier similar lifetime you were mortal?" might run after the
above starts to open up, but he has to be able to see first.
Seeing, looking, knowing, emoting, feeling, understanding, being
the effect of, being the cause of etc, are one humongous package. It's
not just a Black 5, but a Black quite a few things.
Homer
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THE SERVICE COMPUTATION
This is very early tech.
Don't run questions, run conceptions.
Creation is done in the conception of something, not in
asking questions about it.
Turn all What and Why questions below into 'Get the idea of...'
Homer
THE SERVICE COMPUTATION
ACT - 6
28 June 1993
Copyright (C) 1993 Homer Wilson Smith
Been running,
'Why is life not worth living?' (Problem)
'How are you making life worth living?' (Solution)
'Why is life worth living?'
'How are you making life not worth living?'
'What is the purpose of life?'
'What computation are you using to make your own goal wrong?'
'What serves you?'
'How does it serve you?'
The purpose of these questions is to find your basic GPM, its basic
opposition, and your basic solutions to this problem.
The being early on loses the will to live due to something. You
need to find that something.
"Why is life not worth living?'
He then, AS HE IS DYING AWAY, develops a service facsimile
computation and chronic condition that makes life just worth living
enough so that he does not die, but can continue and he still is just
continuing.
'How have you made life worth living?'
Underlying this drama is his basic purpose or first goal GPM.
'What is the purpose of life?'
He has chosen to survive by suppressing, invalidating, not-ising,
and making wrong that goal.
'What computation are you using to make your own goal wrong?'
He never quite gives up with the goal though, even though he is
opposing his own goal, he is still trying to survive, in the hope that
maybe one day he can get back to it.
Thus he is trying to SERVE his goal by OPPOSING his goal.
'What serves you?'
'How does it serve you?'
Each of these questions is a listing question. In otherwords they
can and should run in a standard session with a meter. Each question
should be listed to a complete list with one reading item.
Or it can be run more informally by running the questions
alternately and repetitively as desired being careful not to leave an
incomplete list in the end or force a wrong item.
The 'rough' case, the 'no gain' case, the 'ARC Broke with auditing'
case, is merely the case that never 'had his item found.' In this sense
an 'item' means
1.) Goal and opp Goal
2.) Terminal and opp Terminal
3.) Service Computation
4.) Chronic condition.
The above auditing questions will stir this stuff up where other
processes have fallen short.
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THE SERVICE COMPUTATION
This is very early tech.
Don't run questions, run conceptions.
Creation is done in the conception of something, not in
asking questions about it.
Turn all What and Why questions below into 'Get the idea of...'
Homer
THE SERVICE COMPUTATION
ACT - 6
28 June 1993
Copyright (C) 1993 Homer Wilson Smith
Been running,
'Why is life not worth living?' (Problem)
'How are you making life worth living?' (Solution)
'Why is life worth living?'
'How are you making life not worth living?'
'What is the purpose of life?'
'What computation are you using to make your own goal wrong?'
'What serves you?'
'How does it serve you?'
The purpose of these questions is to find your basic GPM, its basic
opposition, and your basic solutions to this problem.
The being early on loses the will to live due to something. You
need to find that something.
"Why is life not worth living?'
He then, AS HE IS DYING AWAY, develops a service facsimile
computation and chronic condition that makes life just worth living
enough so that he does not die, but can continue and he still is just
continuing.
'How have you made life worth living?'
Underlying this drama is his basic purpose or first goal GPM.
'What is the purpose of life?'
He has chosen to survive by suppressing, invalidating, not-ising,
and making wrong that goal.
'What computation are you using to make your own goal wrong?'
He never quite gives up with the goal though, even though he is
opposing his own goal, he is still trying to survive, in the hope that
maybe one day he can get back to it.
Thus he is trying to SERVE his goal by OPPOSING his goal.
'What serves you?'
'How does it serve you?'
Each of these questions is a listing question. In otherwords they
can and should run in a standard session with a meter. Each question
should be listed to a complete list with one reading item.
Or it can be run more informally by running the questions
alternately and repetitively as desired being careful not to leave an
incomplete list in the end or force a wrong item.
The 'rough' case, the 'no gain' case, the 'ARC Broke with auditing'
case, is merely the case that never 'had his item found.' In this sense
an 'item' means
1.) Goal and opp Goal
2.) Terminal and opp Terminal
3.) Service Computation
4.) Chronic condition.
The above auditing questions will stir this stuff up where other
processes have fallen short.
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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THE ANATOMY OF ABERRATION
Aberration starts at the top of the following scale and descends to
the bottom.
1.) COMMUNICATION
2.) Misunderstood words, mechanisms and causes
3.) Problems
4.) Overts, hate, sins of separation
5.) Withholds, Missed, Mutual and Co-excused Withholds
(A withhold is something you don't want others knowing.
A missed withhold is what someone ELSE does to make you wonder if
they know anyhow or still remember if they did once know. A withhold
can also be something you WANT others to know but can't get it across.
The wonder is on whether they got it or not.
A mutual withhold is something two or more people in a group
are doing in present time, and thus both consider its ok for
themselves and the other to do it, since 'everyone' is doing it.
A Co-Excused Withhold is when the son in this life is quiet about
something his mother is doing to him, because when the son was a mother
in a past life he (she) did it to her son first. Its basic computation
is "I won't complain about what you as a mother are DOING to me as a
son, if you won't complain about what I did AS A MOTHER to a son in a
past life.
6.) Shame, blame, guilt, regrets, ARC breaks.
7.) Computations, make wrongs and make rights. Justification and
restraint.
The purpose of the computation is to render the area of
enturbulence unimportant for further inspection.
8.) Time reverse order, you are justified for what you did to Dufus
yesterady because of what Dufus did to you today. It's assigning cause
where there was none: "I hurt Dufus yesterday BECAUSE he hurt me today."
Say you have a cigarette lighter, and you love lighters, and this
was a very valuable one given to you by your father.
You know how it works, and you take very good care of it, that's
communication.
One day it doesn't work, and you can't figure out why, it tweaks
your incredibility chain. That's the misunderstood and the problem.
In a fit you toss it across the room where it hits the wall and
falls to the floor, but now it is dented forever more, right where your
father had it inscribed 'to my best son'. That's the overt and the
withhold from father that his son was slipping.
You regret the overt, try to turn back time, fail to do so, and are
now stuck with the guilt, blame, shame and regret. That's the ARC
break.
You decide lighters are no good, and will never use or think about
lighters again, and take to using matches which are clearly superior to
lighters particularly in the rain. That's the computation and make
wrong.
Eventually you develop a syndrome in your thumb so you couldn't
flick a lighter any more if you wanted to. That's the service facsimile
impinging on your body making it ill.
You consider that the lighter caused your thumb to become sore
after all those years of using it and with this you justify the overt of
having thrown it across the room and ejecting it from your life.
That's also a time reverse order.
Your consideration that the lighter caused your thumb to become
sore happens AFTER you feel guilty for throwing the lighter across the
room. You need a prior justification for the overt act which you do not
have, and thus you grab onto something that did not bother you at the
time (your thumb) and which you did not blame on the lighter at the time
it occured, but now do so after the fact of you harming the lighter.
You also consider that your thumb now prevents you from ever using
lighters again, thus protecting you from getting frustrated with them
and in your fitful foolishness doing harm to them. That is the
restraint.
Justification and Restraint on the same subject at the same time
are an AND, and lead to overwhelm. All overwhelms are caused by ANDS.
An OR is an indecision whether to go or not go. You put your foot
on the gas, then you put it on the brake, then on the gas, then on the
brake.
An AND is a *DECISION* to do both at the same time. You put your
left foot on the brake AND your right foot on the gas, both peddels to
the metal.
Eventually you become a 'What's a lighter?' case. That's NO
lighter on the CDEINRS scale.
CDEINR = Curious about, Desire, Enforce, Inhibit, *NO*, Refused,
Sub Refused.
Below that, you will use lighters only to start the fires necessary
to burn lighter users at the stake. That's REFUSED lighter.
The service facsimile will be the most detested incident on the
track, it will contain pain and unconsciousness, and violently opposed
allies and foes, heros, victims and villans.
The pc will be guilty one way or another of all valences involved.
The valence chosen by the pc while committing the overt will be the
valence of the being who committed the most hideous sin on the pc's
track, either against him or others.
Word clear Hideous Joy.
It is the Anti Theetie Wheetie on the case.
This is the valence you seek in sessson to glean the confession.
The anti Theetie Wheetie, well...
A Theetie Wheetie is a 'sweetness and light case', can't imagine
ever having done wrong, "Who me? What did I do to deserve this?"
"Past lives? Hey I only live once, it says so in the Bible..."
Then the victim valence and then the hero/sympathy/savior/ally
valence.
Run out all Villain, Victim, Hero incidents back to Template 1,
and your preclear will be pretty much clear.
He at least will not be prone to USING his case in order to deal
with villain, victim and hero moments in the future, or if he does,
watch out, he will know quite well what he is doing.
Templates are early track demonstrations of how to sack youself and
your friends into oblivion.
The basic template is probably the tone scale.
THE TONE SCALE
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi?/electra/tone.memo
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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THE ANATOMY OF ABERRATION
Aberration starts at the top of the following scale and descends to
the bottom.
1.) COMMUNICATION
2.) Misunderstood words, mechanisms and causes
3.) Problems
4.) Overts, hate, sins of separation
5.) Withholds, Missed, Mutual and Co-excused Withholds
(A withhold is something you don't want others knowing.
A missed withhold is what someone ELSE does to make you wonder if
they know anyhow or still remember if they did once know. A withhold
can also be something you WANT others to know but can't get it across.
The wonder is on whether they got it or not.
A mutual withhold is something two or more people in a group
are doing in present time, and thus both consider its ok for
themselves and the other to do it, since 'everyone' is doing it.
A Co-Excused Withhold is when the son in this life is quiet about
something his mother is doing to him, because when the son was a mother
in a past life he (she) did it to her son first. Its basic computation
is "I won't complain about what you as a mother are DOING to me as a
son, if you won't complain about what I did AS A MOTHER to a son in a
past life.
6.) Shame, blame, guilt, regrets, ARC breaks.
7.) Computations, make wrongs and make rights. Justification and
restraint.
The purpose of the computation is to render the area of
enturbulence unimportant for further inspection.
8.) Time reverse order, you are justified for what you did to Dufus
yesterady because of what Dufus did to you today. It's assigning cause
where there was none: "I hurt Dufus yesterday BECAUSE he hurt me today."
Say you have a cigarette lighter, and you love lighters, and this
was a very valuable one given to you by your father.
You know how it works, and you take very good care of it, that's
communication.
One day it doesn't work, and you can't figure out why, it tweaks
your incredibility chain. That's the misunderstood and the problem.
In a fit you toss it across the room where it hits the wall and
falls to the floor, but now it is dented forever more, right where your
father had it inscribed 'to my best son'. That's the overt and the
withhold from father that his son was slipping.
You regret the overt, try to turn back time, fail to do so, and are
now stuck with the guilt, blame, shame and regret. That's the ARC
break.
You decide lighters are no good, and will never use or think about
lighters again, and take to using matches which are clearly superior to
lighters particularly in the rain. That's the computation and make
wrong.
Eventually you develop a syndrome in your thumb so you couldn't
flick a lighter any more if you wanted to. That's the service facsimile
impinging on your body making it ill.
You consider that the lighter caused your thumb to become sore
after all those years of using it and with this you justify the overt of
having thrown it across the room and ejecting it from your life.
That's also a time reverse order.
Your consideration that the lighter caused your thumb to become
sore happens AFTER you feel guilty for throwing the lighter across the
room. You need a prior justification for the overt act which you do not
have, and thus you grab onto something that did not bother you at the
time (your thumb) and which you did not blame on the lighter at the time
it occured, but now do so after the fact of you harming the lighter.
You also consider that your thumb now prevents you from ever using
lighters again, thus protecting you from getting frustrated with them
and in your fitful foolishness doing harm to them. That is the
restraint.
Justification and Restraint on the same subject at the same time
are an AND, and lead to overwhelm. All overwhelms are caused by ANDS.
An OR is an indecision whether to go or not go. You put your foot
on the gas, then you put it on the brake, then on the gas, then on the
brake.
An AND is a *DECISION* to do both at the same time. You put your
left foot on the brake AND your right foot on the gas, both peddels to
the metal.
Eventually you become a 'What's a lighter?' case. That's NO
lighter on the CDEINRS scale.
CDEINR = Curious about, Desire, Enforce, Inhibit, *NO*, Refused,
Sub Refused.
Below that, you will use lighters only to start the fires necessary
to burn lighter users at the stake. That's REFUSED lighter.
The service facsimile will be the most detested incident on the
track, it will contain pain and unconsciousness, and violently opposed
allies and foes, heros, victims and villans.
The pc will be guilty one way or another of all valences involved.
The valence chosen by the pc while committing the overt will be the
valence of the being who committed the most hideous sin on the pc's
track, either against him or others.
Word clear Hideous Joy.
It is the Anti Theetie Wheetie on the case.
This is the valence you seek in sessson to glean the confession.
The anti Theetie Wheetie, well...
A Theetie Wheetie is a 'sweetness and light case', can't imagine
ever having done wrong, "Who me? What did I do to deserve this?"
"Past lives? Hey I only live once, it says so in the Bible..."
Then the victim valence and then the hero/sympathy/savior/ally
valence.
Run out all Villain, Victim, Hero incidents back to Template 1,
and your preclear will be pretty much clear.
He at least will not be prone to USING his case in order to deal
with villain, victim and hero moments in the future, or if he does,
watch out, he will know quite well what he is doing.
Templates are early track demonstrations of how to sack youself and
your friends into oblivion.
The basic template is probably the tone scale.
THE TONE SCALE
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi?/electra/tone.memo
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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MEANING OF POSTULATE
Homer:
>> To postulate means to posit (post) as true.
>
> Says who?
To postulate comes from TO REQUEST, in this case it is used to mean
a creative request in the sense of God saying 'Let there be light'. It
is also a DEMAND that something BECOME true by virtue of the demand.
These are created truths in created realities.
Thus one is talking about CREATIVE postulates.
In mathematics postulates are self evident truths, or 'truths' that
are created or asserted without proof, or invented or fabricated out of
whole cloth, which then form the basis of the rest of the newly created
mathematical system.
So when a thetan makes a postulate in the dark of the void, he has
then CREATED a truth out of whole cloth that then limits and guides what
he can create next.
These created truths are not absolute truths about actuality, but
are virtual truths about a created virtual reality like an arcade game,
and thus can be posted, retracted, changed or erased, as can any
arbitrarily created but self consistent mathematical system.
Any game or fictional story is built on opening postulates and then
considerations.
These have nothing to do with actuality, but everything to do with
self created realities.
If one takes basic Christianty, "and from the WORD came everything
that came", this is merely saying that all of God's creative thoughts
about the physical universe, and how it should be and behave are simply
God's postulations on the matter.
What HE thinks about the *CREATED* universe then becomes true
in that rendering of it.
Same for the HIGH US and the virtual world of space and time
that we dream in as we all ARE God in carnation.
Homer
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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MEANING OF POSTULATE
Homer:
>> To postulate means to posit (post) as true.
>
> Says who?
To postulate comes from TO REQUEST, in this case it is used to mean
a creative request in the sense of God saying 'Let there be light'. It
is also a DEMAND that something BECOME true by virtue of the demand.
These are created truths in created realities.
Thus one is talking about CREATIVE postulates.
In mathematics postulates are self evident truths, or 'truths' that
are created or asserted without proof, or invented or fabricated out of
whole cloth, which then form the basis of the rest of the newly created
mathematical system.
So when a thetan makes a postulate in the dark of the void, he has
then CREATED a truth out of whole cloth that then limits and guides what
he can create next.
These created truths are not absolute truths about actuality, but
are virtual truths about a created virtual reality like an arcade game,
and thus can be posted, retracted, changed or erased, as can any
arbitrarily created but self consistent mathematical system.
Any game or fictional story is built on opening postulates and then
considerations.
These have nothing to do with actuality, but everything to do with
self created realities.
If one takes basic Christianty, "and from the WORD came everything
that came", this is merely saying that all of God's creative thoughts
about the physical universe, and how it should be and behave are simply
God's postulations on the matter.
What HE thinks about the *CREATED* universe then becomes true
in that rendering of it.
Same for the HIGH US and the virtual world of space and time
that we dream in as we all ARE God in carnation.
Homer
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Homer Wilson Smith Clean Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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