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ATTRACTIVENESS
The issues of attractiveness are important to any case.
People love their cats more than their own bodies or themselves.
For men, attractiveness starts between mother and son. Men get
their first warm fuzzies about their own body from their mothers. If
their mother's look upon them with disgust or frigidity, its going to be
hard slogging later. This can even affect the development of the body
so it BECOMES unattractive.
A man with a chronic defensive or offensive service fac in
operation is going to be pretty much crippled in appearance and
functionality.
Some men can also be sent into higher planes of consciousness by
some stellar 'illegally pretty' girls. The shock of the higher plane,
along with the shock that the girl 'has it' and the man doesn't can send
the man into a permanent dwindling spiral of inferiority.
The man is actually experiencing himself, but its under the control
of the pretty girl, and when the pretty girl walks away, the man loses
it. That makes the man 'needy' which is a negatory to the girl, so its
self enforcing.
Men also have a hard time finding their own bodies attractive, as
they are men, and men aren't supposed to find men attractive maybe, I
dunno. It just seems to be that there are lots and lots of attractive
girls in the world, but the men all look like boogies to me, except for
a very few which I note with due exception. Sometimes I get the feeling
that if *I* were a girl looking for an attractive man I would kill
myself from the scarcity.
On the other hand I find that girls tend to not be as sensitive to
physical attractiveness as men are. Men and women are not the same in
this regard. If I wanted to be chauvanistic about it, I could say that
women depend on men's ABILITY more than men depend on women's ability,
so women have evolved to be attracted to ability rather than exquisite
looks, and men have bred and selected women who have the exquisite
looks. So things have gone different directions between them.
Lights = beauty, brights = intelligence.
"Daughters get their lights from their father's brights.
Daughters get their brights from their father's lights.
Son's get their lights from their mother's brights.
Son's get their brights from their mother's lights."
When young you find the pretty girls hanging out with jocks, dumb,
ugly, but strong as hell. Well that's an ability, namely to protect the
girl from attack. Later some of them figure out that being smart and
having a lot of money is better than being strong, but the guys are
still ugly.
Once in a while you will find a women who isn't trying to fulfill a
survial dependency who will fall in love with some Adonis worthy of her
feelings.
Anyhow many men, who understand physical attractiveness all too
well, but have no real clue what attracts women about men, have the
distinct feeling that they as men could never be as attractive to a
women as the women is to them, that puts them into an instant permanent
out exchange.
The sensitivity to attractiveness in men, if its like with me, is
so well tuned that a man will tell you immediately whether a women is
positive, zero or negative. Looking at a negative women is like
listening to noise all day long, looking at a positive women is like
listening to good music. One is chronic pain, the other is chronic
pleasure :)
In other languages the woman says to the man "Your face
is easy on my eyes."
Pretty girls to a man are like comfort food, they melt his body,
they make it peaceful, they *HEAL* it, they give it reason to live, to
go into first gear and get to work, they make him feel like he can deal
with anything, face any future, give his life.
Ugly women make him want to kill himself now.
If one runs into a truely interstellar girl like I did with one
Rachel many years ago in 1985, it will take the man right up face to
face with God and light and beauty forever for free. He might even
cough up a religion like ADORE to deal with the ascension experience and
resulting crash. Hell this girl glowed in the dark from behind when I
didn't even know it was her! And she wouldn't give me the time of day.
"Dedication to Adore,
For Rachel, whose Gorgeous ExCaliper and Magnificent Respect
inspired it all, and whom I Adore for EVER, for FREE."
Later in the Forgotten Book of the Dead, the dark side of Adore,
"Dedicated to the MAG BODS who spit and kicked dirt in my face
until I knew they were right.
Gorgeous JAPs don't date Christian Wimps because her meat is
Kosher, and his meat is crucified."
MAG = Magnificent, JAP = Jewish American Princess
Now if the man looks at himself but doesn't feel he is positive to
himself in his own eyes, he can't imagine that any women would find him
positive either. This leads to a permanent depression about women,
because he figures women will feel about him the way he feels about
negative women and that is just death to him.
It is permanent hopelessness, lost the race before out of the gate.
So he tries to 'make up for' not being attractive by ...., you fill
in the blank with any substitute for attractiveness that might yet
attract a girl anyhow.
If his life experience is that EVERY women he looks at, smiles at,
or says hello to gives him 'A go away you slime ball before I scream for
the police or call my dyke buddies to beat you up', then after a while
he becomes non functional, won't go outside, won't socialize, won't do
anything with his life. Mostly he is just waiting to die to get it over
with.
He lives in a world where saying "Hi" to a pretty girl is the same
as goosing her from behind. And lots of girls feel that way, they are
TERRIFIED of men, won't look them in the eyes, and won't say Hi to
random men passing on the street, except in the movies.
When these girls die and their whole life passes before their
eyes, they will see an awful log of sidewalk cracks.
The man will see an awful lot of find 'em ... forget 'em.
When he does go outside, he lives for the brief moments when some
pretty thing does smile at him and return his hello, it will make is
whole day, restore his faith in life for a few hours. But it won't ever
lead anywhere, because he knows this pretty thing smiles at everyone.
Its still a win though for him. He wishes all of womanhood were like
that.
If the only peace he finds in his life are sleep dreams of pretty
girls that bring him healing and peace, then his dream world becomes
more real and important than his waking world. Of course in his dream
world his own body *SOMETIMES* looks more positive in dream mirrors than
in the real world, so he holds onto the possibility that he could look
that way in the real world too someday.
Many people will bring up the issue, but what about the being
inside the body? Isn't there an attraction there too?
Uh well, what is a being doing inside a body in the first place.
OK, some quick thoughts.
Most pretty girls have bodies that AS WORKS OF BEAUTY AND ART are
far and away superior to anything that the being in the body will ever
produce or create as an artist in their lives.
Rachel to me was way beyond any art that exists on this planet,
including the 5 great piano concertos that move me so that I am also
learning to play them.
I mean music moves me, but Rachel *SENT* me to places of candy land
and star drive that I had no clue existed before. She opened up the
face of God itself to me.
The being in the body was a putz. Almost no one home, at least no
one that would talk to me :) I tended to find that over the years, the
prettier the girl, the more air headed they were. Once in a while I
would find depth in a pretty girl, but mostly the deep ones where the
ones that needed bags over their heads.
I figured eventually there was a correlation, and I should figure
out what it was before I died in this life :)
You see rather than HAVE a life, this kind of guy forms a
substitute life of trying to figure out why he doesn't have a life, so
perhaps he can warn others in the future to not make the mistakes he
made.
The point is that I have yet to run into ANY being that had as
strong an effect on me as pretty BODIES have. Usually the beings in the
bodies were a detraction from the beauty of the body.
Many years later when I finally figured out 'what is was with
girls', namely fear and jealousy, I was able to start digging a few
females out of their nonsense, and they became of positive value, as
beings, to me.
They're still ugly though.
And THEY hate it as much as I do.
In fact they hate me for even being interested in 'pretty girls',
the very ones they wish they were.
So you get it from both sides.
You get whapped by the pretty girls for looking at them, and you
get whapped by the ugly girls for looking at the pretty girls too!
Homer
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Subject: The Secret Reason Men FAIL With Women
The Secret Reason Men FAIL With Women
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exm36.memo (fwd)
This was not written by me, but is just too good to pass up.
Homer
((My comments in double parentheses - Homer))
CAN WE EVER BE FRIENDS?
EXM - 36
ca. 1992
Copyright (C) 1992 A Voice of the Free Zone (Electra)
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
You know Scientology was not built by the work of one man alone.
It was a team effort, between L. Ron Hubbard and all of his fellow
researchers and OT's. The RELIGION idolized the one man, the work was
done by many. Thus it might be said that Scientology has many founding
fathers, people who gave their lives and time so that Earth might be
free.
Do you really think that all the founding fathers of Scientology
are SP's except one?
The Church is monomaniacal on the subject of Squirrels, people
practicing Scientology outside of the financial purview of the Church.
The idea that someone might make a buck selling relief and freedom,
or that someone might be able to do it better than them, makes the
Church squirm in its grave. It just can't sleep at night knowing that
someone might pocket a single penny with out giving them their cut.
It's fine that the work is the work of L. Ron Hubbard, but
unfortunately that work happens to pertain to my own personal Eternal
Freedom. Thus there is a copyright conflict here, one that I must
resolve by taking command of my own personal Eternity even if I must use
the work of another.
((Electra is confusing the content of the work and the specific
written manifestation of the work. The second belongs to LRH, the first
belongs to everyone.))
Besides as Ron has said a million times in tapes the Church has
never listened to and wouldn't sell if it had, he never taught us
anything we did not already know, because everything he was teaching us
was AGREED to by us at the beginning of time to be the way the game was
going to proceed and eventually end.
He said very clearly, that if it were something new he was teaching
us, then he would have no right to teach it to us and it would not work
anyhow. LRH had some concept of Total Responsibility even if the Church
doesn't know how to spell the words.
Ron was probably the greatest man ever to live just because he saw
that we were all totally responsible not only for our own conditions but
also for HIS! Thus his greatness was our personal gift to him and to
ourselves.
To then turn this greatness into a money grubbing, copyrightable
legal ownership of wisdom that actually was created by and thus belongs
to everyone is as far below evil as you can get and still be walking
around.
NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ME HOW TO GO CLEAR. I WILL DIE TO
DEFEND MY RIGHT TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS ABOUT MY OWN ETERNITY. MY
PERSONAL INTEGRITY IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY IMMEDIATE LIFE.
Not to mention more important than acceptance by the Churchies and
L. Ron Hubbard who taught this to me.
The only thing important to the Church is money.
Is it suppressive to want to go clear with out somebody else's
permission? Is it suppressive to leave a group that prohibits you from
going clear by using the Tech incorrectly or by refusing or being unable
to learn how to use it correctly? Is it suppressive to want to go clear
FOR FREE as long as you do all the work?
Is it suppressive to want to go clear even if everyone else is
going to Hell? Is it sensible to go to Hell so that everyone else can
go Clear?
Is it sensible that there should be this huge conflict between the
first and third dynamics?
Is it suppressive to audit for free?
Is it suppressive to share your findings and cognitions for free?
Is it suppressive to let others win with the Tech?
Is it suppressive to charge for your services and not pay the
Church its tithe? Is it suppressive to undercut the prices charged by
the Church?
How would you like someone to tell you 'you can't go in session
today no matter how much you need to because you haven't paid us enough
money!'
Is it suppressive to speak your mind?
By putting their attention on Free Zoners as SP's the Church is
taking their member's attention off the true planetary SP's that are
destroying our future and in so doing, are committing a High Crime of
Excellence.
They are also falling directly into the hands of the true planetary
SP's and helping them towards their goal of world conquest through
annihilation.
Did you know there are people on this Earth who actually think that
the way to make money and take control is to START a nuclear war and
pick up the pieces afterwards? THESE are the true SP's. Are they now
practicing Scientology, helping people go Clear in the Free Zone?
Have you ever read Ron's bulletins on the THIRD PARTY LAW? It says
that it always takes a third undisclosed party to start a conflict
between two other parties.
Who the hell is making you hate Free Zoners? Has your Church
become a mouthpiece for the Merchants of Chaos and Fear?
Do you honestly think you are going to go Clear if the Free Zone
folds? Do you think that you will survive another 10 years without the
Free Zone holding world wide peace in place while the Church parades its
Arrogance, Vanity and Conceit?
Do you want to be the mouthpiece of the Planetary SPs?
Was every OT that left the Church an SP? Was every Techie who
struck out to build a better Bridge on his own an SP? Do you think
these people would be suppressive to the Church if the Church were not
suppressive to them? Do you think these people would not share their
data and discoveries freely with the Church if the Church would admit to
their existence and value?
Do you think the Church would be better off if all the OT's that
have left the Church were suddenly to vanish off the face of the Earth
to some Hell that served them right?
How would you feel if you found out that the Church thought that
the way to make the most money was to weaken the tech, so as to extend
your stay in auditing and make sure you never got what you really wanted
out of auditing lest you just end cycle on it?
How would you feel if you found out that the Church considered the
survival of their group more important than your own personal
advancement, and even that ANY preclear's advancement was in the end
detrimental to the survival of the group?
Do Clear OT's hang out in groups?
Do they charge a buck?
Would the Church die if it admitted it was wrong?
Would you?
Do you think the Church has any other reason to suppress the Free
Zone than a desire for FINANCIAL MONOPOLY?
What the hell ever happened to free market competition and the
American Way?
Did it go Clear?
Would Churchies be out of a job if someone competent were allowed
to audit?
Is a Full OT a threat to the Church? Would it be a danger to pull
someone's last withhold lest they turn around and pull yours?
Does the Church really want to Clear the Planet, or do they want
CONTROL? Can one justify Controlling in order to Clear the Planet? Can
one justify Clearing the Planet in order to Control?
Can one justify abandoning Clearing the Planet to get and maintain
Control?
How would you feel if you found out the Church did not want to
Clear the Planet because it didn't want people strong enough to revolt
against its money grubbing ways?
How would you feel if you found out the Church actually planned to
NOT Clear the Planet so that it could grab and maintain control as a
governing Elite?
Why does someone who has devoted their entire life to Scientology
and the Church, one day decide to up and leave? How can someone do
their entire Grades and OT levels and then after being fully certified
on both sides of the Bridge decide it is time to go?
Overts? And the Church could not pull them?
If the top tech terminals have overts and leave, what lilly-white-
do-nothings are left in the Church when the top techies go or are kicked
out?
How many old time Scientologists are still in the Church?
How many people who were in their 20's in 1950 and who picked up
Book One on Day One, are still in the Church? Look around you, what is
the average age of the people you see? Has Scientology become a Young
Turk's religion?
Where are the Old Ones? Are they all gone? Are all of these Old
Timers SP's? Every last one of them?
Where is Volney Mathieson who was so admired in 1950 only to be
denounced in 1961? Who is sourcing these things?
Do you know who John McMaster is? He was the world's first Clear.
Did you know he left the Church in disgust in the early 70's? Did you
know he was responsible for discovering the Power Processes and the R6
Bank and gave it to Ron to put his name on it?
How long can you continue to deny that the way up the Scientology
Bridge is the way out of the Church for so many OT's?
How long can you continue to fabricate the data to make yourself
feel comfortable?
Is everyone who points out that your toilet is overflowing with
managerial and technical sewage an SP?
There is a wealth of data in the Free Zone. Wouldn't you like to
know what other OT's are saying about how to go up the Bridge? OT's who
went up the Standard Bridge FIRST and went on to build a better Bridge?
Aren't you tired of hearing just one voice?
Did it ever occur to you that LRH and the Free Zone OTs are in
cahoots to bring Scientology to the planet and the Church with its
arrogance, vanity and conceit, is just one of their many pan determined
games?
Don't you think it is strange that the Church is promoting strife
between brothers, between members of the Church and other Free Zoners?
You know all we want to do is practice Scientology, to raise ARC and
awareness on this planet so that it provides us all a fun game to play.
Do you really think that by attacking and harassing those who wish to
practice Scientology alone, the Church is doing anything more than
protecting its own FINANCIAL MONOPOLY on the Tech, a Tech that stopped
growing the day LRH died?
You know, LRH himself said that nothing can stay stagnant and
survive. It either must expand or die. How can the Church expand if
the Tech stays the same forever more?
Who has the Tech Hat for the planet while Ron is away dealing with
his new body?
Do you really believe that Ron can come back and take over the
Church again. What proof will he bear that he is LRH? You think
Churchies have the confront to withstand PROOF of anything OT? You
think the new LRH will be accepted by everyone? You think maybe the
Church would split in half, with the high ones able to know the new Ron,
and the low ones leaving in disgust to continue the one true religion
without him? You think the Church would survive Ron coming back in a
new body and trying to take control?
How many pretenders to the throne will there be, before, during and
after? Whose word will you take that someone really is Ron in a new
body. Miscavige?
Do you ever call David Miscavige, David Miscarriage behind his
back?
Do you know what Miscarriage of Justice means?
Do you really believe that the last word about your own case has
been said?
Do you really feel that the Tech is complete enough for YOU? Do
you really feel that the Tech is complete enough to handle the entire
planet? Do you KNOW this for a fact or are you merely TOLD this until
you can't stand sound any more?
Are you REALLY REALLY REALLY making all the case gain you ever
wanted, or are you just caught on a wave of enthusiasm and dreams about
how it ought to be?
Have you attained Awareness of Truth and The Way to Personal
Freedom? Do you feel some discomfort at having declared this state?
((Did you declare attaining Awareness of Truth and The Way to
Personal Freedom a long long time ago, and now feel the whole thing was
kind of silly?))
Do you know The Way, but feel you can not walk it because you do
not have 100 billion dollars and 5 OT's with a crane to carry you across
the Bridge?
How much should Life Repair cost?
Did they find your Life Ruin?
Did they repair it?
Did it ruin you financially?
What would it take to repair your Ruin?
Getting your money back?
Has your net worth gone down in Scientology?
What is the expected return on your investment?
Have you ever attested to a state of release that was less than you
had dreamed for? Has your entire trip across the Bridge been less than
you dreamed it would be?
What would happen if everyone were making gains beyond their
wildest dreams?
What would happen if your C/S didn't wear eyeglasses, smoke
cigarettes and drink coffee?
What would happen if your Grade IV C/S actually admitted he was
wrong and didn't know what he was doing?
How would you feel if you were kicked out of the HGC for getting
off other people's withholds, namely what your C/S was up to during
World War II?
Was your C/S hell bent on missing a withhold on you? Why?
What withhold were you hell bent on missing on him? Why?
How long can you continue to be gung ho about going Clear if you
never go Clear? Are you going Clear fast enough? How fast is fast
enough? Is there enough money in the world to ensure you will go Clear?
How fast COULD you go Clear if you had all the Tech on the planet on
your side, and not just the Church's financial offerings?
If you found out that the Church was spending millions to 'protect
the Tech' when its true motivations was protecting its own pocketbooks,
how would you feel? Would you be outraged? Would you have the balls to
do anything about it?
If you found out that the Church was diluting the Tech so that more
people would have to pay more money to attain the same state how would
you feel?
If you knew that the Church was refusing to research and look into
new and better rundowns available in the field, how would you feel?
Was Ron Hubbard the best man in the world?
If you found out that the Church had purposefully mistuned the Mark
VI and VII E-meters to extend NOTS auditing beyond its usual duration to
bring more money into the Church, and to make SURE no one ever got
powerful enough to ever DO anything about the Corruption, Temptation and
Seduction in the Church, how would you feel?
Would you like to know exactly how an E-meter worked, and how to
fix them and especially how to TUNE them for maximum performance? Do
think this is all really hard, complex and mysterious? Do think it
would be immoral to know how an E-meter worked or what was inside? Who
benefits from your feeling this way?
Have you ever wanted to be a Techie, but are stuck in the quagmire
of administrative posts that the Church is choking on?
Did it take you 3 days to get a sec check? When you got the sec
check, did they miss the Withhold?
Have you ever wanted to leave the Church to practice the Tech on
your own, but you were afraid you would be kicked out of Scientology
forever with no friends, no Tech, no upper levels, no group, and no
Eternity?
((Did you ever figure you would do your lower levels alone because
no one else could help you with them, and then once clear you would
apply for readmittance into the Church and do your amends so you could
do your upper levels with them and still be part of the OT group you had
always dreamed about?))
Have you ever worried about your upper levels? Has anyone ever
threatened to withhold them from you? Do you know what a BT/C (Body
Thetan/Cluster) is?
Are you withholding another being or cluster of beings?
Have you ever entertained the thought that by leaving the Church
you were ENTERING Scientology?
Who blew who? Did you blow the Church, or did the Church blow you?
When you didn't come into work one morning was it because your 'office'
and 'post' had moved to another location, like your house?
Have you ever entertained the thought that coming into work to the
Church in the morning was blowing your true post.
Did the Church make a self determined change for the worse in the
1960's? 1970's? 1980's? 1990's?
Do you work for the Church merely because it gives you license to
dramatize or act out harmful acts on others? Do you work for the Church
solely because you like to kill, betray, terrorize, steal, punish, hurt,
wreck or harm? Do you enjoy your "007 license to kill"?
Are you in the Church even though you do not believe that
Scientology works? Is it just a job to you? Is the Tech all a Crock?
Has no one ever Cleared HELP on you?
Have you never cleared help on another?
Has ANYONE ANY WHERE EVER CLEARED HELP?
Do you not know what it means to clear help?
Have you never audited anyone to a win?
Have you never made case gain, or produced case gain on another?
Do you not know what TA action is? Do you not believe in it?
Has the Church given you fair exchange for your love and devotion
and honesty? Have you been treated in good faith? Does the Church
consider you expendable on the altar of the greater good?
If everyone won, would the Church lose? Is the Church winning by
making sure no one wins?
Is it one for all and all for one?
Or is it one for all and all for none?
Would your group sacrifice itself to save you?
Should a group sacrifice itself for you? In an Eternal Game can
the group afford to lose one individual forever?
Is the survival of the group more important than the survival of
the individual? Will the group continue after all the individuals are
gone? Does the group source the individual, or does the individual
source the group? Are these questions too stupid to ask? Does anyone
need to have them asked?
What is the source of your loyalty? Need?
Are others devoted to you as you are to them? For how long? Until
your pocketbook runs dry?
What would happen if people started throwing away their eye glasses
in session?
What would happen if they all stopped smoking tomorrow?
Has anyone ever attained a flat Drug Rundown in the Church?
Does anyone in the Church WANT anyone to attain a flat Drug
Rundown? Why not?
Do you consider that doing a comprehensive Drug Rundown means
running down all your drugs and doing them comprehensively?
Does it ever cross your mind the reason why Scientologists smoke is
because they are all debased self justifying drug addicts with the
personal integrity of a cow pie?
Are you able to get through the day without coffee in the morning,
nicotine and caffeine during the day, alcohol in the night and aspirin
to smooth over the pain?
Do you smoke because you WANT to?
Do you have a body because you WANT to?
Does the Church invest in the stocks of Drug Companies? Chock Full
O' Nuts, Maxwell, R. J. Reynolds, Budweiser, Bayer?
Why is the Church ALWAYS under suppression from the world at large?
Why is the 'why' always something other than themselves?
Something other than their own intentions.
Do birds fly?
Does garbage stink?
Would having a first and second dynamic of quality be considered an
act of defiance by the Church?
The Church is a Cathedral of Pain.
A marriage of
Corruption, Temptation and Seduction
and
Arrogance, Vanity and Conceit.
This marriage can not last forever.
The Church can be salvaged, but not as long as it attacks its
friends like a rabid dog and guards its financial interests over the
Eternal well being of those who loved it and served it so.
We WILL be free. If the Church wishes to join that freedom it can
mend its ways. The door is always open, if only a crack. The Church
should listen well to the voices of the Free Zone.
As for the Churchies, we care more for them than their own damn
Church does.
Ron will not be pleased when he comes back and I assure you there
will be hell to pay.
I personally intend to be there on that day.
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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((My comments in double parentheses - Homer))
CAN WE EVER BE FRIENDS?
EXM - 36
ca. 1992
Copyright (C) 1992 A Voice of the Free Zone (Electra)
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
You know Scientology was not built by the work of one man alone.
It was a team effort, between L. Ron Hubbard and all of his fellow
researchers and OT's. The RELIGION idolized the one man, the work was
done by many. Thus it might be said that Scientology has many founding
fathers, people who gave their lives and time so that Earth might be
free.
Do you really think that all the founding fathers of Scientology
are SP's except one?
The Church is monomaniacal on the subject of Squirrels, people
practicing Scientology outside of the financial purview of the Church.
The idea that someone might make a buck selling relief and freedom,
or that someone might be able to do it better than them, makes the
Church squirm in its grave. It just can't sleep at night knowing that
someone might pocket a single penny with out giving them their cut.
It's fine that the work is the work of L. Ron Hubbard, but
unfortunately that work happens to pertain to my own personal Eternal
Freedom. Thus there is a copyright conflict here, one that I must
resolve by taking command of my own personal Eternity even if I must use
the work of another.
((Electra is confusing the content of the work and the specific
written manifestation of the work. The second belongs to LRH, the first
belongs to everyone.))
Besides as Ron has said a million times in tapes the Church has
never listened to and wouldn't sell if it had, he never taught us
anything we did not already know, because everything he was teaching us
was AGREED to by us at the beginning of time to be the way the game was
going to proceed and eventually end.
He said very clearly, that if it were something new he was teaching
us, then he would have no right to teach it to us and it would not work
anyhow. LRH had some concept of Total Responsibility even if the Church
doesn't know how to spell the words.
Ron was probably the greatest man ever to live just because he saw
that we were all totally responsible not only for our own conditions but
also for HIS! Thus his greatness was our personal gift to him and to
ourselves.
To then turn this greatness into a money grubbing, copyrightable
legal ownership of wisdom that actually was created by and thus belongs
to everyone is as far below evil as you can get and still be walking
around.
NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO TELL ME HOW TO GO CLEAR. I WILL DIE TO
DEFEND MY RIGHT TO MAKE MY OWN DECISIONS ABOUT MY OWN ETERNITY. MY
PERSONAL INTEGRITY IS MORE IMPORTANT TO ME THAN MY IMMEDIATE LIFE.
Not to mention more important than acceptance by the Churchies and
L. Ron Hubbard who taught this to me.
The only thing important to the Church is money.
Is it suppressive to want to go clear with out somebody else's
permission? Is it suppressive to leave a group that prohibits you from
going clear by using the Tech incorrectly or by refusing or being unable
to learn how to use it correctly? Is it suppressive to want to go clear
FOR FREE as long as you do all the work?
Is it suppressive to want to go clear even if everyone else is
going to Hell? Is it sensible to go to Hell so that everyone else can
go Clear?
Is it sensible that there should be this huge conflict between the
first and third dynamics?
Is it suppressive to audit for free?
Is it suppressive to share your findings and cognitions for free?
Is it suppressive to let others win with the Tech?
Is it suppressive to charge for your services and not pay the
Church its tithe? Is it suppressive to undercut the prices charged by
the Church?
How would you like someone to tell you 'you can't go in session
today no matter how much you need to because you haven't paid us enough
money!'
Is it suppressive to speak your mind?
By putting their attention on Free Zoners as SP's the Church is
taking their member's attention off the true planetary SP's that are
destroying our future and in so doing, are committing a High Crime of
Excellence.
They are also falling directly into the hands of the true planetary
SP's and helping them towards their goal of world conquest through
annihilation.
Did you know there are people on this Earth who actually think that
the way to make money and take control is to START a nuclear war and
pick up the pieces afterwards? THESE are the true SP's. Are they now
practicing Scientology, helping people go Clear in the Free Zone?
Have you ever read Ron's bulletins on the THIRD PARTY LAW? It says
that it always takes a third undisclosed party to start a conflict
between two other parties.
Who the hell is making you hate Free Zoners? Has your Church
become a mouthpiece for the Merchants of Chaos and Fear?
Do you honestly think you are going to go Clear if the Free Zone
folds? Do you think that you will survive another 10 years without the
Free Zone holding world wide peace in place while the Church parades its
Arrogance, Vanity and Conceit?
Do you want to be the mouthpiece of the Planetary SPs?
Was every OT that left the Church an SP? Was every Techie who
struck out to build a better Bridge on his own an SP? Do you think
these people would be suppressive to the Church if the Church were not
suppressive to them? Do you think these people would not share their
data and discoveries freely with the Church if the Church would admit to
their existence and value?
Do you think the Church would be better off if all the OT's that
have left the Church were suddenly to vanish off the face of the Earth
to some Hell that served them right?
How would you feel if you found out that the Church thought that
the way to make the most money was to weaken the tech, so as to extend
your stay in auditing and make sure you never got what you really wanted
out of auditing lest you just end cycle on it?
How would you feel if you found out that the Church considered the
survival of their group more important than your own personal
advancement, and even that ANY preclear's advancement was in the end
detrimental to the survival of the group?
Do Clear OT's hang out in groups?
Do they charge a buck?
Would the Church die if it admitted it was wrong?
Would you?
Do you think the Church has any other reason to suppress the Free
Zone than a desire for FINANCIAL MONOPOLY?
What the hell ever happened to free market competition and the
American Way?
Did it go Clear?
Would Churchies be out of a job if someone competent were allowed
to audit?
Is a Full OT a threat to the Church? Would it be a danger to pull
someone's last withhold lest they turn around and pull yours?
Does the Church really want to Clear the Planet, or do they want
CONTROL? Can one justify Controlling in order to Clear the Planet? Can
one justify Clearing the Planet in order to Control?
Can one justify abandoning Clearing the Planet to get and maintain
Control?
How would you feel if you found out the Church did not want to
Clear the Planet because it didn't want people strong enough to revolt
against its money grubbing ways?
How would you feel if you found out the Church actually planned to
NOT Clear the Planet so that it could grab and maintain control as a
governing Elite?
Why does someone who has devoted their entire life to Scientology
and the Church, one day decide to up and leave? How can someone do
their entire Grades and OT levels and then after being fully certified
on both sides of the Bridge decide it is time to go?
Overts? And the Church could not pull them?
If the top tech terminals have overts and leave, what lilly-white-
do-nothings are left in the Church when the top techies go or are kicked
out?
How many old time Scientologists are still in the Church?
How many people who were in their 20's in 1950 and who picked up
Book One on Day One, are still in the Church? Look around you, what is
the average age of the people you see? Has Scientology become a Young
Turk's religion?
Where are the Old Ones? Are they all gone? Are all of these Old
Timers SP's? Every last one of them?
Where is Volney Mathieson who was so admired in 1950 only to be
denounced in 1961? Who is sourcing these things?
Do you know who John McMaster is? He was the world's first Clear.
Did you know he left the Church in disgust in the early 70's? Did you
know he was responsible for discovering the Power Processes and the R6
Bank and gave it to Ron to put his name on it?
How long can you continue to deny that the way up the Scientology
Bridge is the way out of the Church for so many OT's?
How long can you continue to fabricate the data to make yourself
feel comfortable?
Is everyone who points out that your toilet is overflowing with
managerial and technical sewage an SP?
There is a wealth of data in the Free Zone. Wouldn't you like to
know what other OT's are saying about how to go up the Bridge? OT's who
went up the Standard Bridge FIRST and went on to build a better Bridge?
Aren't you tired of hearing just one voice?
Did it ever occur to you that LRH and the Free Zone OTs are in
cahoots to bring Scientology to the planet and the Church with its
arrogance, vanity and conceit, is just one of their many pan determined
games?
Don't you think it is strange that the Church is promoting strife
between brothers, between members of the Church and other Free Zoners?
You know all we want to do is practice Scientology, to raise ARC and
awareness on this planet so that it provides us all a fun game to play.
Do you really think that by attacking and harassing those who wish to
practice Scientology alone, the Church is doing anything more than
protecting its own FINANCIAL MONOPOLY on the Tech, a Tech that stopped
growing the day LRH died?
You know, LRH himself said that nothing can stay stagnant and
survive. It either must expand or die. How can the Church expand if
the Tech stays the same forever more?
Who has the Tech Hat for the planet while Ron is away dealing with
his new body?
Do you really believe that Ron can come back and take over the
Church again. What proof will he bear that he is LRH? You think
Churchies have the confront to withstand PROOF of anything OT? You
think the new LRH will be accepted by everyone? You think maybe the
Church would split in half, with the high ones able to know the new Ron,
and the low ones leaving in disgust to continue the one true religion
without him? You think the Church would survive Ron coming back in a
new body and trying to take control?
How many pretenders to the throne will there be, before, during and
after? Whose word will you take that someone really is Ron in a new
body. Miscavige?
Do you ever call David Miscavige, David Miscarriage behind his
back?
Do you know what Miscarriage of Justice means?
Do you really believe that the last word about your own case has
been said?
Do you really feel that the Tech is complete enough for YOU? Do
you really feel that the Tech is complete enough to handle the entire
planet? Do you KNOW this for a fact or are you merely TOLD this until
you can't stand sound any more?
Are you REALLY REALLY REALLY making all the case gain you ever
wanted, or are you just caught on a wave of enthusiasm and dreams about
how it ought to be?
Have you attained Awareness of Truth and The Way to Personal
Freedom? Do you feel some discomfort at having declared this state?
((Did you declare attaining Awareness of Truth and The Way to
Personal Freedom a long long time ago, and now feel the whole thing was
kind of silly?))
Do you know The Way, but feel you can not walk it because you do
not have 100 billion dollars and 5 OT's with a crane to carry you across
the Bridge?
How much should Life Repair cost?
Did they find your Life Ruin?
Did they repair it?
Did it ruin you financially?
What would it take to repair your Ruin?
Getting your money back?
Has your net worth gone down in Scientology?
What is the expected return on your investment?
Have you ever attested to a state of release that was less than you
had dreamed for? Has your entire trip across the Bridge been less than
you dreamed it would be?
What would happen if everyone were making gains beyond their
wildest dreams?
What would happen if your C/S didn't wear eyeglasses, smoke
cigarettes and drink coffee?
What would happen if your Grade IV C/S actually admitted he was
wrong and didn't know what he was doing?
How would you feel if you were kicked out of the HGC for getting
off other people's withholds, namely what your C/S was up to during
World War II?
Was your C/S hell bent on missing a withhold on you? Why?
What withhold were you hell bent on missing on him? Why?
How long can you continue to be gung ho about going Clear if you
never go Clear? Are you going Clear fast enough? How fast is fast
enough? Is there enough money in the world to ensure you will go Clear?
How fast COULD you go Clear if you had all the Tech on the planet on
your side, and not just the Church's financial offerings?
If you found out that the Church was spending millions to 'protect
the Tech' when its true motivations was protecting its own pocketbooks,
how would you feel? Would you be outraged? Would you have the balls to
do anything about it?
If you found out that the Church was diluting the Tech so that more
people would have to pay more money to attain the same state how would
you feel?
If you knew that the Church was refusing to research and look into
new and better rundowns available in the field, how would you feel?
Was Ron Hubbard the best man in the world?
If you found out that the Church had purposefully mistuned the Mark
VI and VII E-meters to extend NOTS auditing beyond its usual duration to
bring more money into the Church, and to make SURE no one ever got
powerful enough to ever DO anything about the Corruption, Temptation and
Seduction in the Church, how would you feel?
Would you like to know exactly how an E-meter worked, and how to
fix them and especially how to TUNE them for maximum performance? Do
think this is all really hard, complex and mysterious? Do think it
would be immoral to know how an E-meter worked or what was inside? Who
benefits from your feeling this way?
Have you ever wanted to be a Techie, but are stuck in the quagmire
of administrative posts that the Church is choking on?
Did it take you 3 days to get a sec check? When you got the sec
check, did they miss the Withhold?
Have you ever wanted to leave the Church to practice the Tech on
your own, but you were afraid you would be kicked out of Scientology
forever with no friends, no Tech, no upper levels, no group, and no
Eternity?
((Did you ever figure you would do your lower levels alone because
no one else could help you with them, and then once clear you would
apply for readmittance into the Church and do your amends so you could
do your upper levels with them and still be part of the OT group you had
always dreamed about?))
Have you ever worried about your upper levels? Has anyone ever
threatened to withhold them from you? Do you know what a BT/C (Body
Thetan/Cluster) is?
Are you withholding another being or cluster of beings?
Have you ever entertained the thought that by leaving the Church
you were ENTERING Scientology?
Who blew who? Did you blow the Church, or did the Church blow you?
When you didn't come into work one morning was it because your 'office'
and 'post' had moved to another location, like your house?
Have you ever entertained the thought that coming into work to the
Church in the morning was blowing your true post.
Did the Church make a self determined change for the worse in the
1960's? 1970's? 1980's? 1990's?
Do you work for the Church merely because it gives you license to
dramatize or act out harmful acts on others? Do you work for the Church
solely because you like to kill, betray, terrorize, steal, punish, hurt,
wreck or harm? Do you enjoy your "007 license to kill"?
Are you in the Church even though you do not believe that
Scientology works? Is it just a job to you? Is the Tech all a Crock?
Has no one ever Cleared HELP on you?
Have you never cleared help on another?
Has ANYONE ANY WHERE EVER CLEARED HELP?
Do you not know what it means to clear help?
Have you never audited anyone to a win?
Have you never made case gain, or produced case gain on another?
Do you not know what TA action is? Do you not believe in it?
Has the Church given you fair exchange for your love and devotion
and honesty? Have you been treated in good faith? Does the Church
consider you expendable on the altar of the greater good?
If everyone won, would the Church lose? Is the Church winning by
making sure no one wins?
Is it one for all and all for one?
Or is it one for all and all for none?
Would your group sacrifice itself to save you?
Should a group sacrifice itself for you? In an Eternal Game can
the group afford to lose one individual forever?
Is the survival of the group more important than the survival of
the individual? Will the group continue after all the individuals are
gone? Does the group source the individual, or does the individual
source the group? Are these questions too stupid to ask? Does anyone
need to have them asked?
What is the source of your loyalty? Need?
Are others devoted to you as you are to them? For how long? Until
your pocketbook runs dry?
What would happen if people started throwing away their eye glasses
in session?
What would happen if they all stopped smoking tomorrow?
Has anyone ever attained a flat Drug Rundown in the Church?
Does anyone in the Church WANT anyone to attain a flat Drug
Rundown? Why not?
Do you consider that doing a comprehensive Drug Rundown means
running down all your drugs and doing them comprehensively?
Does it ever cross your mind the reason why Scientologists smoke is
because they are all debased self justifying drug addicts with the
personal integrity of a cow pie?
Are you able to get through the day without coffee in the morning,
nicotine and caffeine during the day, alcohol in the night and aspirin
to smooth over the pain?
Do you smoke because you WANT to?
Do you have a body because you WANT to?
Does the Church invest in the stocks of Drug Companies? Chock Full
O' Nuts, Maxwell, R. J. Reynolds, Budweiser, Bayer?
Why is the Church ALWAYS under suppression from the world at large?
Why is the 'why' always something other than themselves?
Something other than their own intentions.
Do birds fly?
Does garbage stink?
Would having a first and second dynamic of quality be considered an
act of defiance by the Church?
The Church is a Cathedral of Pain.
A marriage of
Corruption, Temptation and Seduction
and
Arrogance, Vanity and Conceit.
This marriage can not last forever.
The Church can be salvaged, but not as long as it attacks its
friends like a rabid dog and guards its financial interests over the
Eternal well being of those who loved it and served it so.
We WILL be free. If the Church wishes to join that freedom it can
mend its ways. The door is always open, if only a crack. The Church
should listen well to the voices of the Free Zone.
As for the Churchies, we care more for them than their own damn
Church does.
Ron will not be pleased when he comes back and I assure you there
will be hell to pay.
I personally intend to be there on that day.
Electra
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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God is Author.
As author, God creates good characters and bad characters,
In the surrounding matrix (universe), God also creates good
opporunities and bad opportunities for all his characters.
To say that only good comes from God, is to ignore the rest that
comes from God. Or to claim it doesn't exist, or that it comes from
elsewhere.
I assure you that nothing comes from anywhere else but the
AllThatIs and its fundamental nature, drives and motives.
People like to consider that God is our Father and we are His
Children. This collapses a Divine relationship between God and Soul, down
to a human relationship between Parent and Child, and thus loses sight of
both of them.
Consider the following. If God is our father, and we are his child,
and the universe is our playpen that God our Father made for us to grow up
in, what would you think of this God as a Father?
People say that God allows bad people to do bad things because they
need to have a free will more than they need to be forced to be good.
OK, that's fine.
But why does God allow bad people to do bad to GOOD people?
That's the question that is never asked.
If a human father has two children, one is bad and one is good, does
the human father allow the bad child do bad to the good child in the name
of free will?
Run to full understanding.
"What is the relationship between Parent and Child."
"What is the relationship between God and Soul."
"What is the relationship between Author and Character."
"What is the relationship between Creator and Creature."
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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God is Author.
As author, God creates good characters and bad characters,
In the surrounding matrix (universe), God also creates good
opporunities and bad opportunities for all his characters.
To say that only good comes from God, is to ignore the rest that
comes from God. Or to claim it doesn't exist, or that it comes from
elsewhere.
I assure you that nothing comes from anywhere else but the
AllThatIs and its fundamental nature, drives and motives.
People like to consider that God is our Father and we are His
Children. This collapses a Divine relationship between God and Soul, down
to a human relationship between Parent and Child, and thus loses sight of
both of them.
Consider the following. If God is our father, and we are his child,
and the universe is our playpen that God our Father made for us to grow up
in, what would you think of this God as a Father?
People say that God allows bad people to do bad things because they
need to have a free will more than they need to be forced to be good.
OK, that's fine.
But why does God allow bad people to do bad to GOOD people?
That's the question that is never asked.
If a human father has two children, one is bad and one is good, does
the human father allow the bad child do bad to the good child in the name
of free will?
Run to full understanding.
"What is the relationship between Parent and Child."
"What is the relationship between God and Soul."
"What is the relationship between Author and Character."
"What is the relationship between Creator and Creature."
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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BODY AND THETAN II
Here is the strongest argument I know that bodies do not need
thetan class beings in them to survive.
We assume that bodies are made of GE class elementals with their
own track and their own game.
Bodies are not made by thetans, they are made by parents.
Thus when and where a body is created depends upon the free wills
of the bodies that becomes it parents, plus the decisions of any thetans
in those parental bodies.
That means since bodies are being born all the time, there must be
a long line of GE class beings waiting in the soup so to speak until
they are called into service to create and keep that new body alive.
They don't have much choice in the matter, body is conceived, and
GE's are sucked in to fill the ever expanding number of cellular posts
that make the body go.
If that were true for thetan class beings, then they too would have
to line up and be forced to join a body lest it die, and the time of
assumption would have to be mostly identical for everyone, probably at
conception and certainly not after birth.
Hubbard's research indicated that there was definitely a GE time
track, and definitely a thetan time track and that they were two
different histories.
Further he claimed that the thetan tended to take over the body
when and IF it wanted to, sometimes going in and out many times before a
final control transfer was undertaken, never to get out again.
He indicated in the early tapes that thetan's tended to take over
bodies as late as they could after birth, and were only forced into
earlier and earlier assumptions by competition from other thetans.
The idea that the thetan is necessary to the biological life of the
body, means that if all 6 to 10 billion thetans incarnated on Earth were
cleared of the need to have a body, all bodies would die at birth or
before.
I would suggest that the body is independent of the thetan, and the
thetan is not a natural part of a body, that the body has an
intelligence similar to a chimpanzee, they can go to the fridge and pull
a beer, or drive a car, but they couldn't FIX a car nor could they
invent one.
The natural thetan's scope, span, depth and field is many millions
of times bigger than a body, and it feels that not being able to do
anything without having to do it with his body is a prison of magnitude.
This ARC break then kicks back against the body who feels resented
by the thetan because it can't fly, climb mountains, go to the stars, or
do whatever thetans want and can do.
The body is also naturally used to a 300 foot radius of awareness,
and is not supposed to be burdened by awareness of what is going on 3000
miles away in India.
To a natural body, if it ain't happening to IT, it ain't happening.
Having a thetan sucked into its brain changes that causing the body
to give up in despair, because it knows it can't handle or do anything
about anything outside of its radius of awareness. The fact that the
THETAN then tries to force the body to become a super soldier and deal
with all the world problems, drives the body even further down tone.
This is like a parent forcing a baby to go to war.
It shows up in running thetans forcing bodies to go to thetan wars.
Most bodies would kill the thetan in them without second thought,
except for the fact that the thetan is pretty good at bringing home good
food, shelter and sex for it.
It should be mentioned that a body without a thetan is pretty cowed
by bodies that have thetans in them, so its first impulse is to get
itself a thetan too, for 'thetans know what to do.'
Nonetheless half the charge between thetan and body is the thetan's
hatred for the body and its limitations and attitudes, and the other
half of the charge is the body's hatred for the thetan constantly trying
to make the body be more than it is, and getting it killed, hurt or
harmed, in the process.
There are also body - thetan conflicts too numerous to go over
again, the primary one of which is the body runs on must never happen
again, and the thetan had better not, because the thetan can only
resolve things BY MAKING IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
Willingness to start enables being able to stop.
You can only change what you PUT THERE.
Once the thetan considers its own universe runs like the body's
universe, it is doomed.
Basically bodies and thetans hate each other to the core of their
being, the result of such a meld is an "I am fine, thank you" case.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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BODY AND THETAN II
Here is the strongest argument I know that bodies do not need
thetan class beings in them to survive.
We assume that bodies are made of GE class elementals with their
own track and their own game.
Bodies are not made by thetans, they are made by parents.
Thus when and where a body is created depends upon the free wills
of the bodies that becomes it parents, plus the decisions of any thetans
in those parental bodies.
That means since bodies are being born all the time, there must be
a long line of GE class beings waiting in the soup so to speak until
they are called into service to create and keep that new body alive.
They don't have much choice in the matter, body is conceived, and
GE's are sucked in to fill the ever expanding number of cellular posts
that make the body go.
If that were true for thetan class beings, then they too would have
to line up and be forced to join a body lest it die, and the time of
assumption would have to be mostly identical for everyone, probably at
conception and certainly not after birth.
Hubbard's research indicated that there was definitely a GE time
track, and definitely a thetan time track and that they were two
different histories.
Further he claimed that the thetan tended to take over the body
when and IF it wanted to, sometimes going in and out many times before a
final control transfer was undertaken, never to get out again.
He indicated in the early tapes that thetan's tended to take over
bodies as late as they could after birth, and were only forced into
earlier and earlier assumptions by competition from other thetans.
The idea that the thetan is necessary to the biological life of the
body, means that if all 6 to 10 billion thetans incarnated on Earth were
cleared of the need to have a body, all bodies would die at birth or
before.
I would suggest that the body is independent of the thetan, and the
thetan is not a natural part of a body, that the body has an
intelligence similar to a chimpanzee, they can go to the fridge and pull
a beer, or drive a car, but they couldn't FIX a car nor could they
invent one.
The natural thetan's scope, span, depth and field is many millions
of times bigger than a body, and it feels that not being able to do
anything without having to do it with his body is a prison of magnitude.
This ARC break then kicks back against the body who feels resented
by the thetan because it can't fly, climb mountains, go to the stars, or
do whatever thetans want and can do.
The body is also naturally used to a 300 foot radius of awareness,
and is not supposed to be burdened by awareness of what is going on 3000
miles away in India.
To a natural body, if it ain't happening to IT, it ain't happening.
Having a thetan sucked into its brain changes that causing the body
to give up in despair, because it knows it can't handle or do anything
about anything outside of its radius of awareness. The fact that the
THETAN then tries to force the body to become a super soldier and deal
with all the world problems, drives the body even further down tone.
This is like a parent forcing a baby to go to war.
It shows up in running thetans forcing bodies to go to thetan wars.
Most bodies would kill the thetan in them without second thought,
except for the fact that the thetan is pretty good at bringing home good
food, shelter and sex for it.
It should be mentioned that a body without a thetan is pretty cowed
by bodies that have thetans in them, so its first impulse is to get
itself a thetan too, for 'thetans know what to do.'
Nonetheless half the charge between thetan and body is the thetan's
hatred for the body and its limitations and attitudes, and the other
half of the charge is the body's hatred for the thetan constantly trying
to make the body be more than it is, and getting it killed, hurt or
harmed, in the process.
There are also body - thetan conflicts too numerous to go over
again, the primary one of which is the body runs on must never happen
again, and the thetan had better not, because the thetan can only
resolve things BY MAKING IT HAPPEN AGAIN.
Willingness to start enables being able to stop.
You can only change what you PUT THERE.
Once the thetan considers its own universe runs like the body's
universe, it is doomed.
Basically bodies and thetans hate each other to the core of their
being, the result of such a meld is an "I am fine, thank you" case.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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DESIRE AND BELIEF
A being is something on the order of a total knowingness.
This doesn't mean that he knows everything, or everything that
everyone else has ever created or ever will.
For example he doesn't necessarily know all the digits of PI.
However he may or may not know all the digits of PI that have ever
been computed in some particular universe.
But mostly being a total knowingness means he is quite capable
without further education, of knowing and not knowing things into and
out of existence, and basically everything he does is made of knowing
and unknowing of one kind or another. In the physical universe this
translates into cause as control, start, change and stop.
Total knowingness then means there is nothing more than knowing to
a being's abilities.
But those abilities are directed by himself as CAUSE into creating
designer causes out in the created universe. Universes are bascially
collections of causes and causations between the objects in them, if
only just to perceive them. Perception is the object causing its
creator to perceive them at the behest of the creator.
This leads to a rather odd aberration which is that his need to
believe that he knows everything necessary to know, regardless of how
unpleasant a crock of hell bound bull it is, exceeds his need to believe
something desirable.
He will say 'Thank you Lord for giving me the truth, even though
all my star bellied sneech friends are all going to hell forever, at
least I, without the star belly, am going to heaven, thank you for
that!'
Yet take this same guy and put him into session and run 'How do you
feel about that belief?' and see what happens.
At first he will lie to you, he can't afford to admit discord with
the word of God, his God is a mean God and will send him to hell along
with all his star bellied sneech friends for doubt of canon, which is
heresy.
This guy is inaccessible, a lie factory, totally out of contact
with his own DESIRE.
You might as well run,
"Well if YOU were the Creator, how would YOU have created things?"
Oh that's a dangerous one, why bother thinking about our desire,
what possible relevance can desire have to the what is?
That's a SERIOUS disconnect of responsibility for condition, don't
you see?
The primary difference between self blame and taking responsibility
is desire. The responsible person considers he desired what he created,
even if he now no longer wants it or regrets it. The self blamer
doesn't. He hates himself for creating what he didn't want.
The self blamer may also say he originally wanted what he created
but didn't know what the consequences would be, and should have known
better etc.
But in any case to the low toned, desire is at best a failing where
it agrees with the AllThatIs, and an outright sin where it disagrees.
So this guy is toast, he lives and breaths and teaches a detested
conception of the cosmic all, yet tries very hard to be 'good' lest he
go to hell forever at the hands of a seriously vile and deranged God.
"God loves you so much he created hell forever in case you don't
love him back."
Teaching little kids about hell forever is actually a form of child
abuse, but the psychotic parent does it for the child's own good, and
his own. If parent doesn't, the child might end up in hell and God will
surely take the parent to task for allowing that to happen through mere
lack of educating the child properly.
So we have a very sick society, people are BELOW knowing what they
desire any more and they are TERRIFIED crazy to find out.
THEY DESIRE TO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DESIRE.
That is inverted desire (interest) on the Pre-Havingness Scale.
Something or someone might take exception to what they want, and
that is massive PTSness.
But how can a being get so low toned that he will sell his own
desire down the river just to believe that he has all the answers?
That's because a being can not stand ENFORCED NOT KNOWING.
A being is basically a total knowingness but at the top of the tone
scale, at native state, there is nothing to know, just resident ability
to know and not know creatively.
So fair chosen not knowing is top scale, and ALL ABERRATION is
enforced basic truth.
In this case enforced not knowing.
So when the being finds himself in a universe where he has no clue
where he came from, and no rememberance at all of choosing his present
condition, and UNABLE TO KNOW, he will do anything, include sell his
self, desire and integrity along with everyone else's too, right down
the river in order to believe that he knows again, even if his knowing
is the most horrible nightmare alive.
Nightmares are basically unproud knowledge, sought after because
they self cast from horror, and they allow the being to stop the search
for knowing and 'get on with his dea... er life.'
Self casting from horror means the idea causes horror and the
horror is used as evidence that the idea is true.
Get the idea you are going to die one day for good along with
everyone else, and watch it self cast until you can do it at will and
will never fall for it again.
Thus you have most of the planet believing that people go to hell
forever simply for having a star on their belly, while 'chosen' people
do not.
This view is SO HORRIBLE that it exceeds even the imagination of
the star bellied people that anyone could ever believe it unless it were
somehow true, and so you find some of the star bellies wanting to
convert to the non star belly's nightmare that the star bellies are hell
bound, practically out of the gate.
The converted star belly believes that God won't send them to hell
if they are right at least even if they are still stained with the star
on their belly.
A little laser surgery will remove the star they hope.
The issue here is DESIRE.
People believe they don't have what they desire, but they have lost
sight that they desired to not have what they desire. And that loss of
sight they also desired.
So recovering for a person WHAT HE DESIRES in the way of an
operating AllThatIs, goes a long ways towards clearing a person.
He will go through a phase of coming back into contact with what he
really desires, but still suffer the self casting doubt that he can have
it.
These are the Qualms, otherwise known as 'too good to be true'.
Get him through it. Not know is better than selling yourself and
everyone else you touch down the river out of cowardice for the
momentary relief of lies and illusion of knowing it all.
Hell is 'well at least *I* go to heaven forever'.
And guess what, he will be able to make friends again, oh will he
be able to make friends again, with EVERYONE.
He will FEEL, he will BOND, he will afford intimacy again.
Even with people who think he is going to hell forever for making
friends with everyone.
Homer
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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DESIRE AND BELIEF
A being is something on the order of a total knowingness.
This doesn't mean that he knows everything, or everything that
everyone else has ever created or ever will.
For example he doesn't necessarily know all the digits of PI.
However he may or may not know all the digits of PI that have ever
been computed in some particular universe.
But mostly being a total knowingness means he is quite capable
without further education, of knowing and not knowing things into and
out of existence, and basically everything he does is made of knowing
and unknowing of one kind or another. In the physical universe this
translates into cause as control, start, change and stop.
Total knowingness then means there is nothing more than knowing to
a being's abilities.
But those abilities are directed by himself as CAUSE into creating
designer causes out in the created universe. Universes are bascially
collections of causes and causations between the objects in them, if
only just to perceive them. Perception is the object causing its
creator to perceive them at the behest of the creator.
This leads to a rather odd aberration which is that his need to
believe that he knows everything necessary to know, regardless of how
unpleasant a crock of hell bound bull it is, exceeds his need to believe
something desirable.
He will say 'Thank you Lord for giving me the truth, even though
all my star bellied sneech friends are all going to hell forever, at
least I, without the star belly, am going to heaven, thank you for
that!'
Yet take this same guy and put him into session and run 'How do you
feel about that belief?' and see what happens.
At first he will lie to you, he can't afford to admit discord with
the word of God, his God is a mean God and will send him to hell along
with all his star bellied sneech friends for doubt of canon, which is
heresy.
This guy is inaccessible, a lie factory, totally out of contact
with his own DESIRE.
You might as well run,
"Well if YOU were the Creator, how would YOU have created things?"
Oh that's a dangerous one, why bother thinking about our desire,
what possible relevance can desire have to the what is?
That's a SERIOUS disconnect of responsibility for condition, don't
you see?
The primary difference between self blame and taking responsibility
is desire. The responsible person considers he desired what he created,
even if he now no longer wants it or regrets it. The self blamer
doesn't. He hates himself for creating what he didn't want.
The self blamer may also say he originally wanted what he created
but didn't know what the consequences would be, and should have known
better etc.
But in any case to the low toned, desire is at best a failing where
it agrees with the AllThatIs, and an outright sin where it disagrees.
So this guy is toast, he lives and breaths and teaches a detested
conception of the cosmic all, yet tries very hard to be 'good' lest he
go to hell forever at the hands of a seriously vile and deranged God.
"God loves you so much he created hell forever in case you don't
love him back."
Teaching little kids about hell forever is actually a form of child
abuse, but the psychotic parent does it for the child's own good, and
his own. If parent doesn't, the child might end up in hell and God will
surely take the parent to task for allowing that to happen through mere
lack of educating the child properly.
So we have a very sick society, people are BELOW knowing what they
desire any more and they are TERRIFIED crazy to find out.
THEY DESIRE TO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DESIRE.
That is inverted desire (interest) on the Pre-Havingness Scale.
Something or someone might take exception to what they want, and
that is massive PTSness.
But how can a being get so low toned that he will sell his own
desire down the river just to believe that he has all the answers?
That's because a being can not stand ENFORCED NOT KNOWING.
A being is basically a total knowingness but at the top of the tone
scale, at native state, there is nothing to know, just resident ability
to know and not know creatively.
So fair chosen not knowing is top scale, and ALL ABERRATION is
enforced basic truth.
In this case enforced not knowing.
So when the being finds himself in a universe where he has no clue
where he came from, and no rememberance at all of choosing his present
condition, and UNABLE TO KNOW, he will do anything, include sell his
self, desire and integrity along with everyone else's too, right down
the river in order to believe that he knows again, even if his knowing
is the most horrible nightmare alive.
Nightmares are basically unproud knowledge, sought after because
they self cast from horror, and they allow the being to stop the search
for knowing and 'get on with his dea... er life.'
Self casting from horror means the idea causes horror and the
horror is used as evidence that the idea is true.
Get the idea you are going to die one day for good along with
everyone else, and watch it self cast until you can do it at will and
will never fall for it again.
Thus you have most of the planet believing that people go to hell
forever simply for having a star on their belly, while 'chosen' people
do not.
This view is SO HORRIBLE that it exceeds even the imagination of
the star bellied people that anyone could ever believe it unless it were
somehow true, and so you find some of the star bellies wanting to
convert to the non star belly's nightmare that the star bellies are hell
bound, practically out of the gate.
The converted star belly believes that God won't send them to hell
if they are right at least even if they are still stained with the star
on their belly.
A little laser surgery will remove the star they hope.
The issue here is DESIRE.
People believe they don't have what they desire, but they have lost
sight that they desired to not have what they desire. And that loss of
sight they also desired.
So recovering for a person WHAT HE DESIRES in the way of an
operating AllThatIs, goes a long ways towards clearing a person.
He will go through a phase of coming back into contact with what he
really desires, but still suffer the self casting doubt that he can have
it.
These are the Qualms, otherwise known as 'too good to be true'.
Get him through it. Not know is better than selling yourself and
everyone else you touch down the river out of cowardice for the
momentary relief of lies and illusion of knowing it all.
Hell is 'well at least *I* go to heaven forever'.
And guess what, he will be able to make friends again, oh will he
be able to make friends again, with EVERYONE.
He will FEEL, he will BOND, he will afford intimacy again.
Even with people who think he is going to hell forever for making
friends with everyone.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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AGENCY
ADO - 15
20 June 2004
Copyright (C) 2004 Homer Wilson Smith
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The purpose of auditing is to increase AGENCY.
Agency is outward flowing causation.
Self is the 'Agent One'.
Self awareness is awareness of the Agent One.
There are truths which are fundamental, they can not be changed,
negated or be any other way, they can only be postulated as an
agreement, or counter postulated as a disagreement if the being wants
to create a lie in order to cause persistence in time.
We call these FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS.
Self awakens from native state postulating in full accord with
these fundamental truths.
Self however can then postulate (manifest) into the void other
truths that then become true only because the self has postulated them.
We call these CREATED TRUTHS.
After the self has created a truth, it can then counter postulate
against that same truth thus creating a lie, and thus creating
persistence into time of the truth/lie pair. The apparancy is that the
lie is true, but underlying the lie, the power comes from the original
created truth.
Thus those that compulsively hate other forever more, HAD to love
one another FOREVER MORE at some earlier time.
And those that compulsively love one another forever more, HAD to
hate each other forever more at some earlier time.
Both love and hate can be freely chosen but have little to no
persistence in themselves, you have to create them continuously. Since
that creation is knowing willing creation, the slightest distraction and
they stop.
Once you have something forever more, in time, a temporal
foreverness, that owns and controls the being, you know the lie is
persisting on the power of the prior truth.
They hate each other BECAUSE they don't love each other any more,
you see the difference? There's a betrayal in there and a refusal to
put something there.
The guy who simply hates out of the blue is just as likely to go
off and eat a hamburger than keep up the hate.
LOOKING BY KNOWING
Created truths are created via looking by knowing.
The being knows something, and in the knowing of it, it gets
created and thus he can see it. This is the outward flowing agency of
the KNOWER creating a LOOKED AT.
In return the knower can now see the looked at and thus verify that
what was created matches what he knew into creation in the first place.
This is the backward flowing agency of the looked at giving the knower
the certainty that what was created is what was intended. This backward
flowing agency from looked at to knower is what allows the knower to
CHECK OUT and verify his creation.
So you have:
Knower creates created truth. LOOKING BY KNOWING
Knower sees created truth. KNOWING BY LOOKING.
The process of CHECKING OUT is the process of knowing by looking.
KNOWING BY LOOKING
Now a being can run into something created by another knower.
In this case the being does not know up front what it is he is
about to look at. By looking at the the thing created by the other
knower, the first being can LEARN what the other being created. This
process of learning is also KNOWING BY LOOKING.
It is pretty clear that for most human beings, they spend much of
their time knowing by looking, learning about what already exists,
rather than creating something new to be true in the already existing
matrix of projected creations.
When a being has a dream, a vision of what he would like to have
exist, he is looking by knowing. He knows what he wants, and he can
then see it clearly in his "mind's eye". (You can make mockups
right?)
But then his dream runs into existing creations by others and
forms a ridge. In this universe that we all share, things no longer
become 'true' just and only because we conceived it. That's the way
we conceived this place!
So the being now needs to take steps to realize his dream, to
make his dream true, to fit into the existing matrix of other existing
creations.
We call this work. Or play, depending on your tone.
In either case the being is operating with CONDITIONS that
constrain his creation.
See SOURCE, EXISTENCE, CONDITIONS on the awareness characteristic
scale.
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive?/electra/acc.memo
To the degree that the being realizes his dream, his outward
flowing agency that created his vision from his knowing gets manifested
in the shared universe for all to look at and learn about.
To the degree that he fails to realize his dream, his agency has
been overwhelmed by the existing agencies of other's already creating
into the matrix he is sharing.
Beings can create a matrix, an arena of creations, that is so large
and overwhelming that the implied agency IN THE MATRIX ALONE will
overwhelm anyone trying to create something new in it, and at that point
the matrix becomes a tomb for failed agency.
Thus all auditing is directed at increasing agency of the being so
he can create within the matrix again, change the matrix itself, or
create a whole new matrix altogether if this one has become too
cluttered.
Its all a matter of willingness and "putting it there."
Specifically we want to optimize the operating balance between
Looking by Knowing and Knowing by Looking.
Dig it and don't leave it.
*AN OPERATING BALANCE OF LOOKING BY KNOWING AND KNOWING BY
LOOKING.*
The more the being can engage in looking by knowing, the more
effective his agency is and the less overwhelmed he is. The more the
being must know by looking, the less effective his agency is and the
more overwhelmed a being is by other people's or thing's agency.
Taking into account the whole universe at large, at present he is
operating at about 1 quadrillionth of a percent of outward flowing
creation compared to what's trying to create him.
Operating say at 10 percent would be very OK indeed.
A totally 100 percent overwhelmed being is simply a being who can
ONLY know by looking.
He can't even NOT know by NOT looking any more!
Everywhere he looks he see his tomb, and that's ALL he is doing all
day long. Any any time he tries to forget his tomb by not looking at
it, his tomb pokes him so he can't forget.
That's Hell.
SOLO AUDITING
Many preclears want to solo audit, they don't want to work with
another as an auditor.
Problems of money, space/time, availability, maybe even pride or
embarrassment, shame and regret come into the equation.
Help can be expensive, embarrassing, impossible etc, so some opt for
self help in order to avoid the problems of being helped by another.
That's ok, but solo auditing is a strictly putting it there
operation.
Dual auditing fails just and only because the being is trying
to get another to erase something for him, so that he never
has to put it there. He just wants it GONE, don't you see.
But if he cant want it THERE and put it there, then he will never
be able to make it gone either.
When solo auditing, these facts become very stark.
Solo auditing is a top down proposition.
It's silly to put up an engram in front of your face and then run
it out. You are putting it up, why not just ceasing doing that!
Well it's not that easy you say. True, but the answer is still not
to try to run yourself on Dianetics or CCH's.
Dual auditing runs from the bottom up, you start with group
processing, life repair prepchecks, ARC straightwire, CCH's, Grades etc.
Dual auditing depends mostly on the two way comm between the
preclear and the auditor to work. Its not the magic of the exact
process being run, that helps, but its the two way comm that really
produces the as-isness. The process is merely a crutch to stir up
the next thing that needs to be as-ised.
It's sad to stir it up, and never as-is it because the
preclear can't COMMUNICATE about it to the auditor. The withhold
is never blown, you gotta be able to have a total disclosure
relationship with at least ONE person in the entire universe in order
to remain sane.
Better to have a fully functioning group mind with 8 or more.
That's why running grades or cch's on yourself really isn't very
useful, there is no two way comm going on.
Does that mean you can't help yourself?
No, it means you can't help yourself by assuming you are at the
bottom of the bridge and auditing from the bottom up.
You CAN help yourself by auditing from the top down though, where
you can CREATE your problems and the people to communicate to about them
by putting them there.
You assume you are sovereign, and start to remock up being not so
sovereign again. Since the way in is the way out, once you weasel your
way in again, wham you are out.
You have to BE out to come in, so practicing coming in, puts you
out.
Dig it and don't leave that one either.
By WAY IN, we mean the way down the bridge from sovereign being to
worm on a stump about to be eaten by a crow.
When auditing others from the bottom up, the way out is the way
through of course, they have to go THROUGH all that stuff they created
on the way down.
But when auditing solo from the top down, the way out is the way
in. Once you get the way in, as long as you keep putting it there, you
ARE out because you have to BE out in order to BECOME in.
And once you come in, the slightest distraction and its all blown
away, like being woken up from a dream, and you are left with nothing,
prime static. It's just so hard to keep anything around.
Of course you have to create the distraction :)
PARTY LINES
"A party line is a fixed idea, theory, or other pet philosophical
vanity that when confronted by evidence or reason that it is wrong, over
rules that evidence or reason.
People may be stuck in one or more party lines.
The core party line is the perfect certainty that perfect certainty
is impossible, undesirable, dangerous or unimportant.
We call this 'mind broke'." - The Proof, Plate 1.
There is a very important rule operating here.
If a person is absolutely 'certain' of A, but A is wrong, and you
show him with absolute certainty that B is true instead, he won't get
it. That's because you haven't gotten him to see where A was wrong. So
even though B is looming, he can't wrap his wits around B because he
'knows' that A is true.
For example a person believes the moon is made of green cheese.
You go to the moon and you bring back rocks.
He can't wrap his wits around the rocks because of the prior
certainty that the moon is made of green cheese. By showing him the
rocks you have not make him wrong, you have not made him give up his
certainty it is made of green cheese, you have put him into an
incredibility. The incredibility is that you brought home rocks!
The definition of an incredibility is two opposing certainties:
CERTAINTY THAT SOMETHING IS TRUE
CERTAINTY THAT SOMETHING IS IMPOSSIBLE
By showing this guy the rocks, he is now certain the moon is made
of green cheese, but that its also made of rocks!
That doesn't compute, you see?
When a mind is confronted with an incredibility it freezes, it
can't move from that point forward. It stops thinking altogether on the
subject or solves the incredibility by discounting the second certainty
in order to return to the first certainty.
Remember the power is always in the first postulate!
Or he gives up utterly and says perfect certainty of anything is
impossible! Of that he is now perfectly certain, you see.
So if you are really going to get this guy to be able to deal with
rocks, you HAVE to get him to confront where he got his idea it was made
of green cheese in the first place.
He will find, that since his certainty about green cheese was
wrong, it could never have been a real certainty in the first place, and
once he spots his original out integrity of considering a non certainty
to be a certainty, he will say "Oh what a fool I was to be so sure, ok I
admit I never really knew that for sure in the first place, and yes its
quite ok by me that the moon is made of rocks and not green cheese!"
Party lines are like this.
They are a false 'certainty' that lies in the way of any other true
certainty that might contradict them.
We put quotes around the word 'certainty' because its not a true
certainty in the first place. It CAN'T be, because a true certainty can
not be made wrong!
As long as the false 'certainty' is in place, there is no making
progress with true certainties that contradict it.
One particular party line is a being's absolute conviction that he
is RIGHT about being a limited being.
"Oh no I could never be a god, I could never be in control, I could
NEVER have had any responsibility for this place, I could never be
certain I exist, I could never be certain of ANYTHING, how dare you
think such thoughts!"
He will get the qualms just considering the possibility of having
self respect in some area.
Mockup up having a perfect mate. Where the hell is she you ask?
How would you feel if you knew?
You see he is hiding behind the question from the answer!
Its easy to confront having the question and being the lonely
victim forever more, its hard to confront having the answer and being
sovereign again.
You can not argue with a being's party lines, he will argue for
them like a pit bull until YOU give up in exhaustion.
PARTY LINES ARE CREATED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THE GAME.
Party lines were made long ago with GREAT POWER, much more power
than you have today to bring to bear against them.
Their intent and purpose is to create persistence FOREVER of the
present game, so you are going up against a being's desire to be here
when you try to undermine them.
Remember the second postulate persists but gets its power from the
first postulate.
The first postulate is "I am Sovereign, what I conceive comes true
in the conception of it."
The second postulate is "Whoops, shouldn't have conceived of a worm
on a stump."
The first postulate is to be here in the game, "I want in."
The second postulate is "I want out."
So the guy may on the surface look like he wants to get out, can't
stand life, hates getting up in the morning etc., THAT'S HOW HE KEEPS
HIMSELF IN, but if you really and truly try to get him out, he will
balk and turn on you, as he really wants to be in.
"No, no, you mustn't play with THAT!"
Because if you do he might get out.
He just wants in to be a bit friendlier, lose some games, win more
games, get laid by something pretty and desirable once a life time etc.
So you can audit him to better be able to be in.
But you can't audit him to better be able to be out, he won't let
you.
He wants to know how much further IN he can go and still move.
He doesn't want to leave his friends behind, he wants to better be
able to play WITH THEM while in!
He doesn't want to be an OT, he wants to be a well and happy human
being. Last time he was OT, look what he mocked himself up as!
A worm on a stump about to be eaten by a crow.
Well and happy human beings can't cause any trouble.
Well and happy human being is kind of a half way house out of this
universe. It's on the way out for sure, but the guy is going to stay
there for a LONG time and enjoy being in for a while.
Joke is he never really enjoyed his long slow descent coming in, so
he is sure as hell going to enjoy being in on his long slow ascent
getting out.
Odd isn't it, prison is no fun coming into it, but great fun being
in it while you are getting out!
Since soloing is the way out, and party lines are the way in, they
are diametrically opposed to each other, and so anyone who is still
holding onto their party lines can't solo.
Thus a being with a party line can not solo because soloing is the
action of getting out. The joke is that one gets out by practicing
coming IN, but the party liner won't get that. He's just *TERRIFIED* of
being out. He's just sure it is *FOREVER*. He is so terrified of being
stuck out, that he has put his ALL into getting stuck in.
He has Eternal Forevers (out of time) confused with Temporal
Forevers (in time) and he knows temporal forevers are hell. Thus he
tries to create a game that will never end because a temporal forever of
games is a better hell than a temporal forever of no games ever again.
HIS PRESENT EXISTENCE IS A SOLUTION TO A PRIOR TIME HE REALLY
THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE NO GAMES EVER AGAIN.
The last goodbye.
Before that he designed the whole confusion with grand and
ExCaliper design. (Ex Caliper = without measure, worth beyond measure.)
But in the meantime, that choice to create a game that will never
end, is not real to him, but the prior vision of no games forever more
is very real to him, and so by auditing him you are digging him out of a
hell he can stand (temporal games forever) and throwing him into the
prior apparent hell no one could stand (temporal no games forever).
A being has to undergo a major epiphany for their party lines to
break. They recognize that the party line no longer serves them, they
become willing to experience and BE *ANYTHING* that can be, including a
God who is wrong about everything, and at that point they can solo from
the top down. They are willing to get out, because they know they can
come in again, AT WILL AND WITH EASE.
FOREVERS
Forevers are an important part of aberration, one could say the
ONLY part.
There are two kinds of forevers, Eternal Forevers which can and do
exist between whiles, and Temporal Forevers which can not exist, because
all things created in space/time are created in a whole called a
'while'.
Whiles are finite lengths of time no matter how long, but always
finite in length, in which games are created.
This is very important, because it means that a being CAN NOT GET
STUCK IN TIME FOREVER AS ALL WHILES MUST END ONE DAY.
The being can however try to make those whiles as long as possible,
certainly longer than the last one which always ended too early.
All whiles end too early no matter how long they are, which then
gives impetus for the next creation.
Thus one can expect much of the aberration on a being to consist
entirely and totally of mechanisms to extend the present while as long
as possible.
Certain things can be concluded from the above.
All games must end one day.
Nothing last's forever in time.
Thus there are no Hell's forever nor Heaven's forever in time.
There have been an infinite number of past whiles created in the
Eternal Void, and there will be an infinite number of future whiles
created in that same void.
Once a while ends, its gone, like it never happened.
When a while ends, the beings involved go back to the Big Snooze,
where they sleep in a timeless 'eternal foreverness'.
When they wake up into dreamtime again, they wake up as for the
first time, although they are aware it is not the first time but the
infinityth time.
If you doubt that all creation takes place in whiles, or that this
is even desirable, try running the following process for a while.
"Consider infinite time into the future."
You will notice how it drives you down tone because you don't WANT
infinite time into the future. That's hell forever. Even if it were
pleasure forever for free into the future, its still hell forever. You
would merely be crucified on a cross of gorgeous deliciousness, begging
to die (sleep) after a while.
Why? Because it violates your sovereign desire. Remember those
fundamental truths we talked about at the beginning? Well this is one
of them.
You don't want to live forever in time.
YOU DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN ONE INFINITELY LONG WHILE.
YOU WANT TO LIVE IN AN INFINITE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FINITELY LONG
WHILES SEPARATED BY ETERNAL SLEEP WITH SOVEREIGN CHOICE DETERMINING WHEN
AND IF YOU LEAVE ETERNAL SLEEP TO JOIN DREAMTIME AGAIN IN A NEW WHILE.
Since it is absolutely impossible for desire and the AllThatIs to
be out of accord at a fundamental level, what you want is what you get,
and you get it BECAUSE you want it.
There is no followingness. At the top its simply HAVE = WANT =
HAVE = WANT.
THE MECHANISM
There is a mechanism by which a being gets a while to last as long
as possible.
He creates and comes into the while wanting to come in, but then
once in, he arranges to want to get out. His resistance to coming in is
an alter-is of his desire to come in, and thus creates a persistence of
him being in.
THE BEING STICKS HIMSELF IN BY WANTING TO GET OUT.
He doesn't just want to get out in order to sleep and perhaps come
in again you see, that would be very workable, too workable, dream times
wouldn't last very long if he had that view.
No, he wants to get out FOREVER, and regrets ever having come in.
Just below the surface "Rah!" he CAN'T STAND THIS PLACE.
Being unwilling now to put it there that he is in, he can't put it
there that he is out.
You can't change what you can't put there in the first place.
He creates persistence of the while by creating resistance to being
in the while by considering that the while is FOREVER.
You see if its only for a while, well he can wait it out, a being
can wait anything out as long as its only for a while!
But if its forever, then there is nothing he can do. That turns on
panic and descent at a fast rate.
Being in a time stream forever is a violation of Sovereign desire,
it is THE ONLY break in Sovereign Desire, and this drives him into such
an INFINITE frenzy of resistance he can then be sure he will continue in
the while forever and ever amen.
Well until he changes his mind about the forever part.
You see at first he is in Native State, no whiles, no persistence,
at least nothing hangs out long enough to be a problem. Lots of things
go by that entice him, but he just watches them pass like the clouds in
a summer eve's sky.
He's HAPPY TO BE HAPPY.
But then he considers that He's not totally satisfied with being
happy to be happy all the time.
Now he is UNHAPPY TO BE HAPPY.
So he considers the idea that it might be fun to enter a while and
get lost in it.
It's just a change of consideration, believe me a being can sit in
bemused relief on the verge of time forever and not have a problem with
being happy he is happy.
Remember out of time forever is OK, in time forever ain't.
So at some point he engages in majesty, the impulse towards classy
jokes of self treason, and he wants to join the fray of fools.
Majestic practical jokes of self treason are what time is all
about.
Every persistence is a humor encased in persisting sorrow.
He knows this when he jumps in, so everything is cool.
So he creates a while or joins a while already created.
But to stay there, to make both he and his presence in the while
persist for him, he has to be very unhappy he is in the while in order
to create enough resistance to cause a persistence.
The only resistance strong enough to cause a while to persist
beyond the first sneeze is a FOREVER.
So he creates the idea that he is going to be in this while
FOREVER, and that makes him very unhappy indeed and makes the while
persist like a rock.
Forever actually, until he gives up the idea!
Which makes him really happy because he got what he wanted, to join
and stay in a while for a while, by pretending it is forever.
So now he is HAPPY TO BE UNHAPPY.
He's got purpose, he's got get up and go, he's got friends to make
and enemies to fight, he loves to hate, and hates to love, he's got
importances, seriousness, permanence and pain up the wazoo, and an
infinite future of glorious dramatization ahead of him.
What better time could there be?
He is also totally unauditable and unable to solo because he put
too much effort putting his party lines in place to have some damn fool
auditor blowing them all to pieces again.
Being an auditor is the LAST beingness on the chain, not the first.
Not even an early one :)
Now here is where Leonard Cohen comes in.
Believing in temporal forevers creates infinite charge and sticks
the being more and more into the very forevers he believes in. In
particular, may God save his soul, should he ever get mad at himself or
another and WISH A FOREVER OFF on that person, he himself will
immediately descend into the very forever he wished off on the other.
EVEN IF HE WISHES A POSITIVE PLEASURABLE FOREVER OFF ON ANOTHER,
he has violated both his own and the other's sovereign desire to live in
a FINITE while and to engage in any game or beingness they might wish
to, including hanging on a cross and being crow food *FOR A WHILE*.
You see? Pleasure forever isn't a while, for it disallows
the possibility of pain.
Just what is the beauty to pain anyhow you ask?
Well its your warp core to being here, so you tell me.
Now you can see that this being believes he is in the game forever,
and worse he's real FRAGILE, can be ruined etc., and things are real
serious, you can get killed forever, so maybe you won't be in ANY GAME
any more forever, or you can get crippled and just have to suffer
forever and people have to take care of you forever etc.
Forever, forever, forever, forever. You see?
Things become very PRECIOUS (FOREVER) TO HIM, and he begins to
bring DRAMA FOREVER to every aspect of his life.
Pride and Guilt, Glory and Shame, he's swinging the Sword of
Excalibur all around him.
Woe to those who don't befriend him or who get in his way.
DRAMA is PERMANENCE, IMPORTANCE, SERIOUSNESS AND PAIN.
Permanent loss, forever and ever, you see?
So when people do bad things to him, make his already existing
forevers worse, he does forever things back to them. They kill his kid,
he executes them. If he can't execute them, he WISHES THEM INTO HELL
FOREVER.
Forever, forever, forever, forever. You see?
So all these forevers that he is considering, "I am wounded
forever, my kid is wounded forever, I want you to be wounded forever"
sink him more and more into what?
PERSISTENCE FOREVER!
Persistence of what?
DRAMA. Permanence, importance, seriousness and pain.
And that's hell.
And it is a hell FOREVER for him until and just exactly as long as
he continues to dramatize FOREVERS in his dream time.
Once he says "Well, heh, its not forever, this dream ends when the
circle of friends are all holding hands again!" things start to lift for
him and he starts to get free.
But he would have to be willing to be friends again with everyone
in the WHILE. *EVERYONE*. It was all just role playing right?
Woah, that's a big one, right?
List now everyone in your life for whom it wasn't 'just role
playing'.
He would also have to be awfully willing to let others continue to
dramatize their righteous forevers to keep their games going, and for
him to enjoy the spectacle no matter how much they hurt each other or
themselves. As a spectator of the drama he would 'get the joke' and
appreciate the humor to the carnage.
He would also have to be willing to say his last goodbyes to that
while and everyone in it, and go back to the eternal big snooze while
others were still playing the games of doom forever.
He could always come back in later, or join or create a new while,
depending on his sovereign desire at the time.
That's what you want, right?
To be able to create heaven's and hell's at will.
For a while.
Oh, there is someone you don't want to just get out scott free?
Well that holds you here, don't you see?
*YOU* can't confront what you are wishing off on him!
Who now do you think that sinks?
You think you can create an unconfrontable experience and hand it
off to someone else before it burns YOU to toast?
That's what happens to you when you die by the way, all these hells
you been mocking up for others are all just waiting there for you.
You gotta be here, to keep him here.
Omni well done, and Omni Amen.
You can stop doing it, and run it out.
Then you won't have to go through the hells to get to the Heavens.
That's what soloing is about.
Heaven's and Hell's, Forevers and Whiles.
So as Leonard Cohen said:
"Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the waters, and he spent a
long time watching from his lonely wooden tower.
And when he knew for certain that only drowning men could see him,
he said all men shall be sailors then, until the sea shall free them."
In other words you can't audit beings out, until they are ready to
be out.
Until then audit them to be better in.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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AGENCY
ADO - 15
20 June 2004
Copyright (C) 2004 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
The purpose of auditing is to increase AGENCY.
Agency is outward flowing causation.
Self is the 'Agent One'.
Self awareness is awareness of the Agent One.
There are truths which are fundamental, they can not be changed,
negated or be any other way, they can only be postulated as an
agreement, or counter postulated as a disagreement if the being wants
to create a lie in order to cause persistence in time.
We call these FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS.
Self awakens from native state postulating in full accord with
these fundamental truths.
Self however can then postulate (manifest) into the void other
truths that then become true only because the self has postulated them.
We call these CREATED TRUTHS.
After the self has created a truth, it can then counter postulate
against that same truth thus creating a lie, and thus creating
persistence into time of the truth/lie pair. The apparancy is that the
lie is true, but underlying the lie, the power comes from the original
created truth.
Thus those that compulsively hate other forever more, HAD to love
one another FOREVER MORE at some earlier time.
And those that compulsively love one another forever more, HAD to
hate each other forever more at some earlier time.
Both love and hate can be freely chosen but have little to no
persistence in themselves, you have to create them continuously. Since
that creation is knowing willing creation, the slightest distraction and
they stop.
Once you have something forever more, in time, a temporal
foreverness, that owns and controls the being, you know the lie is
persisting on the power of the prior truth.
They hate each other BECAUSE they don't love each other any more,
you see the difference? There's a betrayal in there and a refusal to
put something there.
The guy who simply hates out of the blue is just as likely to go
off and eat a hamburger than keep up the hate.
LOOKING BY KNOWING
Created truths are created via looking by knowing.
The being knows something, and in the knowing of it, it gets
created and thus he can see it. This is the outward flowing agency of
the KNOWER creating a LOOKED AT.
In return the knower can now see the looked at and thus verify that
what was created matches what he knew into creation in the first place.
This is the backward flowing agency of the looked at giving the knower
the certainty that what was created is what was intended. This backward
flowing agency from looked at to knower is what allows the knower to
CHECK OUT and verify his creation.
So you have:
Knower creates created truth. LOOKING BY KNOWING
Knower sees created truth. KNOWING BY LOOKING.
The process of CHECKING OUT is the process of knowing by looking.
KNOWING BY LOOKING
Now a being can run into something created by another knower.
In this case the being does not know up front what it is he is
about to look at. By looking at the the thing created by the other
knower, the first being can LEARN what the other being created. This
process of learning is also KNOWING BY LOOKING.
It is pretty clear that for most human beings, they spend much of
their time knowing by looking, learning about what already exists,
rather than creating something new to be true in the already existing
matrix of projected creations.
When a being has a dream, a vision of what he would like to have
exist, he is looking by knowing. He knows what he wants, and he can
then see it clearly in his "mind's eye". (You can make mockups
right?)
But then his dream runs into existing creations by others and
forms a ridge. In this universe that we all share, things no longer
become 'true' just and only because we conceived it. That's the way
we conceived this place!
So the being now needs to take steps to realize his dream, to
make his dream true, to fit into the existing matrix of other existing
creations.
We call this work. Or play, depending on your tone.
In either case the being is operating with CONDITIONS that
constrain his creation.
See SOURCE, EXISTENCE, CONDITIONS on the awareness characteristic
scale.
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive?/electra/acc.memo
To the degree that the being realizes his dream, his outward
flowing agency that created his vision from his knowing gets manifested
in the shared universe for all to look at and learn about.
To the degree that he fails to realize his dream, his agency has
been overwhelmed by the existing agencies of other's already creating
into the matrix he is sharing.
Beings can create a matrix, an arena of creations, that is so large
and overwhelming that the implied agency IN THE MATRIX ALONE will
overwhelm anyone trying to create something new in it, and at that point
the matrix becomes a tomb for failed agency.
Thus all auditing is directed at increasing agency of the being so
he can create within the matrix again, change the matrix itself, or
create a whole new matrix altogether if this one has become too
cluttered.
Its all a matter of willingness and "putting it there."
Specifically we want to optimize the operating balance between
Looking by Knowing and Knowing by Looking.
Dig it and don't leave it.
*AN OPERATING BALANCE OF LOOKING BY KNOWING AND KNOWING BY
LOOKING.*
The more the being can engage in looking by knowing, the more
effective his agency is and the less overwhelmed he is. The more the
being must know by looking, the less effective his agency is and the
more overwhelmed a being is by other people's or thing's agency.
Taking into account the whole universe at large, at present he is
operating at about 1 quadrillionth of a percent of outward flowing
creation compared to what's trying to create him.
Operating say at 10 percent would be very OK indeed.
A totally 100 percent overwhelmed being is simply a being who can
ONLY know by looking.
He can't even NOT know by NOT looking any more!
Everywhere he looks he see his tomb, and that's ALL he is doing all
day long. Any any time he tries to forget his tomb by not looking at
it, his tomb pokes him so he can't forget.
That's Hell.
SOLO AUDITING
Many preclears want to solo audit, they don't want to work with
another as an auditor.
Problems of money, space/time, availability, maybe even pride or
embarrassment, shame and regret come into the equation.
Help can be expensive, embarrassing, impossible etc, so some opt for
self help in order to avoid the problems of being helped by another.
That's ok, but solo auditing is a strictly putting it there
operation.
Dual auditing fails just and only because the being is trying
to get another to erase something for him, so that he never
has to put it there. He just wants it GONE, don't you see.
But if he cant want it THERE and put it there, then he will never
be able to make it gone either.
When solo auditing, these facts become very stark.
Solo auditing is a top down proposition.
It's silly to put up an engram in front of your face and then run
it out. You are putting it up, why not just ceasing doing that!
Well it's not that easy you say. True, but the answer is still not
to try to run yourself on Dianetics or CCH's.
Dual auditing runs from the bottom up, you start with group
processing, life repair prepchecks, ARC straightwire, CCH's, Grades etc.
Dual auditing depends mostly on the two way comm between the
preclear and the auditor to work. Its not the magic of the exact
process being run, that helps, but its the two way comm that really
produces the as-isness. The process is merely a crutch to stir up
the next thing that needs to be as-ised.
It's sad to stir it up, and never as-is it because the
preclear can't COMMUNICATE about it to the auditor. The withhold
is never blown, you gotta be able to have a total disclosure
relationship with at least ONE person in the entire universe in order
to remain sane.
Better to have a fully functioning group mind with 8 or more.
That's why running grades or cch's on yourself really isn't very
useful, there is no two way comm going on.
Does that mean you can't help yourself?
No, it means you can't help yourself by assuming you are at the
bottom of the bridge and auditing from the bottom up.
You CAN help yourself by auditing from the top down though, where
you can CREATE your problems and the people to communicate to about them
by putting them there.
You assume you are sovereign, and start to remock up being not so
sovereign again. Since the way in is the way out, once you weasel your
way in again, wham you are out.
You have to BE out to come in, so practicing coming in, puts you
out.
Dig it and don't leave that one either.
By WAY IN, we mean the way down the bridge from sovereign being to
worm on a stump about to be eaten by a crow.
When auditing others from the bottom up, the way out is the way
through of course, they have to go THROUGH all that stuff they created
on the way down.
But when auditing solo from the top down, the way out is the way
in. Once you get the way in, as long as you keep putting it there, you
ARE out because you have to BE out in order to BECOME in.
And once you come in, the slightest distraction and its all blown
away, like being woken up from a dream, and you are left with nothing,
prime static. It's just so hard to keep anything around.
Of course you have to create the distraction :)
PARTY LINES
"A party line is a fixed idea, theory, or other pet philosophical
vanity that when confronted by evidence or reason that it is wrong, over
rules that evidence or reason.
People may be stuck in one or more party lines.
The core party line is the perfect certainty that perfect certainty
is impossible, undesirable, dangerous or unimportant.
We call this 'mind broke'." - The Proof, Plate 1.
There is a very important rule operating here.
If a person is absolutely 'certain' of A, but A is wrong, and you
show him with absolute certainty that B is true instead, he won't get
it. That's because you haven't gotten him to see where A was wrong. So
even though B is looming, he can't wrap his wits around B because he
'knows' that A is true.
For example a person believes the moon is made of green cheese.
You go to the moon and you bring back rocks.
He can't wrap his wits around the rocks because of the prior
certainty that the moon is made of green cheese. By showing him the
rocks you have not make him wrong, you have not made him give up his
certainty it is made of green cheese, you have put him into an
incredibility. The incredibility is that you brought home rocks!
The definition of an incredibility is two opposing certainties:
CERTAINTY THAT SOMETHING IS TRUE
CERTAINTY THAT SOMETHING IS IMPOSSIBLE
By showing this guy the rocks, he is now certain the moon is made
of green cheese, but that its also made of rocks!
That doesn't compute, you see?
When a mind is confronted with an incredibility it freezes, it
can't move from that point forward. It stops thinking altogether on the
subject or solves the incredibility by discounting the second certainty
in order to return to the first certainty.
Remember the power is always in the first postulate!
Or he gives up utterly and says perfect certainty of anything is
impossible! Of that he is now perfectly certain, you see.
So if you are really going to get this guy to be able to deal with
rocks, you HAVE to get him to confront where he got his idea it was made
of green cheese in the first place.
He will find, that since his certainty about green cheese was
wrong, it could never have been a real certainty in the first place, and
once he spots his original out integrity of considering a non certainty
to be a certainty, he will say "Oh what a fool I was to be so sure, ok I
admit I never really knew that for sure in the first place, and yes its
quite ok by me that the moon is made of rocks and not green cheese!"
Party lines are like this.
They are a false 'certainty' that lies in the way of any other true
certainty that might contradict them.
We put quotes around the word 'certainty' because its not a true
certainty in the first place. It CAN'T be, because a true certainty can
not be made wrong!
As long as the false 'certainty' is in place, there is no making
progress with true certainties that contradict it.
One particular party line is a being's absolute conviction that he
is RIGHT about being a limited being.
"Oh no I could never be a god, I could never be in control, I could
NEVER have had any responsibility for this place, I could never be
certain I exist, I could never be certain of ANYTHING, how dare you
think such thoughts!"
He will get the qualms just considering the possibility of having
self respect in some area.
Mockup up having a perfect mate. Where the hell is she you ask?
How would you feel if you knew?
You see he is hiding behind the question from the answer!
Its easy to confront having the question and being the lonely
victim forever more, its hard to confront having the answer and being
sovereign again.
You can not argue with a being's party lines, he will argue for
them like a pit bull until YOU give up in exhaustion.
PARTY LINES ARE CREATED IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THE GAME.
Party lines were made long ago with GREAT POWER, much more power
than you have today to bring to bear against them.
Their intent and purpose is to create persistence FOREVER of the
present game, so you are going up against a being's desire to be here
when you try to undermine them.
Remember the second postulate persists but gets its power from the
first postulate.
The first postulate is "I am Sovereign, what I conceive comes true
in the conception of it."
The second postulate is "Whoops, shouldn't have conceived of a worm
on a stump."
The first postulate is to be here in the game, "I want in."
The second postulate is "I want out."
So the guy may on the surface look like he wants to get out, can't
stand life, hates getting up in the morning etc., THAT'S HOW HE KEEPS
HIMSELF IN, but if you really and truly try to get him out, he will
balk and turn on you, as he really wants to be in.
"No, no, you mustn't play with THAT!"
Because if you do he might get out.
He just wants in to be a bit friendlier, lose some games, win more
games, get laid by something pretty and desirable once a life time etc.
So you can audit him to better be able to be in.
But you can't audit him to better be able to be out, he won't let
you.
He wants to know how much further IN he can go and still move.
He doesn't want to leave his friends behind, he wants to better be
able to play WITH THEM while in!
He doesn't want to be an OT, he wants to be a well and happy human
being. Last time he was OT, look what he mocked himself up as!
A worm on a stump about to be eaten by a crow.
Well and happy human beings can't cause any trouble.
Well and happy human being is kind of a half way house out of this
universe. It's on the way out for sure, but the guy is going to stay
there for a LONG time and enjoy being in for a while.
Joke is he never really enjoyed his long slow descent coming in, so
he is sure as hell going to enjoy being in on his long slow ascent
getting out.
Odd isn't it, prison is no fun coming into it, but great fun being
in it while you are getting out!
Since soloing is the way out, and party lines are the way in, they
are diametrically opposed to each other, and so anyone who is still
holding onto their party lines can't solo.
Thus a being with a party line can not solo because soloing is the
action of getting out. The joke is that one gets out by practicing
coming IN, but the party liner won't get that. He's just *TERRIFIED* of
being out. He's just sure it is *FOREVER*. He is so terrified of being
stuck out, that he has put his ALL into getting stuck in.
He has Eternal Forevers (out of time) confused with Temporal
Forevers (in time) and he knows temporal forevers are hell. Thus he
tries to create a game that will never end because a temporal forever of
games is a better hell than a temporal forever of no games ever again.
HIS PRESENT EXISTENCE IS A SOLUTION TO A PRIOR TIME HE REALLY
THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE NO GAMES EVER AGAIN.
The last goodbye.
Before that he designed the whole confusion with grand and
ExCaliper design. (Ex Caliper = without measure, worth beyond measure.)
But in the meantime, that choice to create a game that will never
end, is not real to him, but the prior vision of no games forever more
is very real to him, and so by auditing him you are digging him out of a
hell he can stand (temporal games forever) and throwing him into the
prior apparent hell no one could stand (temporal no games forever).
A being has to undergo a major epiphany for their party lines to
break. They recognize that the party line no longer serves them, they
become willing to experience and BE *ANYTHING* that can be, including a
God who is wrong about everything, and at that point they can solo from
the top down. They are willing to get out, because they know they can
come in again, AT WILL AND WITH EASE.
FOREVERS
Forevers are an important part of aberration, one could say the
ONLY part.
There are two kinds of forevers, Eternal Forevers which can and do
exist between whiles, and Temporal Forevers which can not exist, because
all things created in space/time are created in a whole called a
'while'.
Whiles are finite lengths of time no matter how long, but always
finite in length, in which games are created.
This is very important, because it means that a being CAN NOT GET
STUCK IN TIME FOREVER AS ALL WHILES MUST END ONE DAY.
The being can however try to make those whiles as long as possible,
certainly longer than the last one which always ended too early.
All whiles end too early no matter how long they are, which then
gives impetus for the next creation.
Thus one can expect much of the aberration on a being to consist
entirely and totally of mechanisms to extend the present while as long
as possible.
Certain things can be concluded from the above.
All games must end one day.
Nothing last's forever in time.
Thus there are no Hell's forever nor Heaven's forever in time.
There have been an infinite number of past whiles created in the
Eternal Void, and there will be an infinite number of future whiles
created in that same void.
Once a while ends, its gone, like it never happened.
When a while ends, the beings involved go back to the Big Snooze,
where they sleep in a timeless 'eternal foreverness'.
When they wake up into dreamtime again, they wake up as for the
first time, although they are aware it is not the first time but the
infinityth time.
If you doubt that all creation takes place in whiles, or that this
is even desirable, try running the following process for a while.
"Consider infinite time into the future."
You will notice how it drives you down tone because you don't WANT
infinite time into the future. That's hell forever. Even if it were
pleasure forever for free into the future, its still hell forever. You
would merely be crucified on a cross of gorgeous deliciousness, begging
to die (sleep) after a while.
Why? Because it violates your sovereign desire. Remember those
fundamental truths we talked about at the beginning? Well this is one
of them.
You don't want to live forever in time.
YOU DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN ONE INFINITELY LONG WHILE.
YOU WANT TO LIVE IN AN INFINITE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT FINITELY LONG
WHILES SEPARATED BY ETERNAL SLEEP WITH SOVEREIGN CHOICE DETERMINING WHEN
AND IF YOU LEAVE ETERNAL SLEEP TO JOIN DREAMTIME AGAIN IN A NEW WHILE.
Since it is absolutely impossible for desire and the AllThatIs to
be out of accord at a fundamental level, what you want is what you get,
and you get it BECAUSE you want it.
There is no followingness. At the top its simply HAVE = WANT =
HAVE = WANT.
THE MECHANISM
There is a mechanism by which a being gets a while to last as long
as possible.
He creates and comes into the while wanting to come in, but then
once in, he arranges to want to get out. His resistance to coming in is
an alter-is of his desire to come in, and thus creates a persistence of
him being in.
THE BEING STICKS HIMSELF IN BY WANTING TO GET OUT.
He doesn't just want to get out in order to sleep and perhaps come
in again you see, that would be very workable, too workable, dream times
wouldn't last very long if he had that view.
No, he wants to get out FOREVER, and regrets ever having come in.
Just below the surface "Rah!" he CAN'T STAND THIS PLACE.
Being unwilling now to put it there that he is in, he can't put it
there that he is out.
You can't change what you can't put there in the first place.
He creates persistence of the while by creating resistance to being
in the while by considering that the while is FOREVER.
You see if its only for a while, well he can wait it out, a being
can wait anything out as long as its only for a while!
But if its forever, then there is nothing he can do. That turns on
panic and descent at a fast rate.
Being in a time stream forever is a violation of Sovereign desire,
it is THE ONLY break in Sovereign Desire, and this drives him into such
an INFINITE frenzy of resistance he can then be sure he will continue in
the while forever and ever amen.
Well until he changes his mind about the forever part.
You see at first he is in Native State, no whiles, no persistence,
at least nothing hangs out long enough to be a problem. Lots of things
go by that entice him, but he just watches them pass like the clouds in
a summer eve's sky.
He's HAPPY TO BE HAPPY.
But then he considers that He's not totally satisfied with being
happy to be happy all the time.
Now he is UNHAPPY TO BE HAPPY.
So he considers the idea that it might be fun to enter a while and
get lost in it.
It's just a change of consideration, believe me a being can sit in
bemused relief on the verge of time forever and not have a problem with
being happy he is happy.
Remember out of time forever is OK, in time forever ain't.
So at some point he engages in majesty, the impulse towards classy
jokes of self treason, and he wants to join the fray of fools.
Majestic practical jokes of self treason are what time is all
about.
Every persistence is a humor encased in persisting sorrow.
He knows this when he jumps in, so everything is cool.
So he creates a while or joins a while already created.
But to stay there, to make both he and his presence in the while
persist for him, he has to be very unhappy he is in the while in order
to create enough resistance to cause a persistence.
The only resistance strong enough to cause a while to persist
beyond the first sneeze is a FOREVER.
So he creates the idea that he is going to be in this while
FOREVER, and that makes him very unhappy indeed and makes the while
persist like a rock.
Forever actually, until he gives up the idea!
Which makes him really happy because he got what he wanted, to join
and stay in a while for a while, by pretending it is forever.
So now he is HAPPY TO BE UNHAPPY.
He's got purpose, he's got get up and go, he's got friends to make
and enemies to fight, he loves to hate, and hates to love, he's got
importances, seriousness, permanence and pain up the wazoo, and an
infinite future of glorious dramatization ahead of him.
What better time could there be?
He is also totally unauditable and unable to solo because he put
too much effort putting his party lines in place to have some damn fool
auditor blowing them all to pieces again.
Being an auditor is the LAST beingness on the chain, not the first.
Not even an early one :)
Now here is where Leonard Cohen comes in.
Believing in temporal forevers creates infinite charge and sticks
the being more and more into the very forevers he believes in. In
particular, may God save his soul, should he ever get mad at himself or
another and WISH A FOREVER OFF on that person, he himself will
immediately descend into the very forever he wished off on the other.
EVEN IF HE WISHES A POSITIVE PLEASURABLE FOREVER OFF ON ANOTHER,
he has violated both his own and the other's sovereign desire to live in
a FINITE while and to engage in any game or beingness they might wish
to, including hanging on a cross and being crow food *FOR A WHILE*.
You see? Pleasure forever isn't a while, for it disallows
the possibility of pain.
Just what is the beauty to pain anyhow you ask?
Well its your warp core to being here, so you tell me.
Now you can see that this being believes he is in the game forever,
and worse he's real FRAGILE, can be ruined etc., and things are real
serious, you can get killed forever, so maybe you won't be in ANY GAME
any more forever, or you can get crippled and just have to suffer
forever and people have to take care of you forever etc.
Forever, forever, forever, forever. You see?
Things become very PRECIOUS (FOREVER) TO HIM, and he begins to
bring DRAMA FOREVER to every aspect of his life.
Pride and Guilt, Glory and Shame, he's swinging the Sword of
Excalibur all around him.
Woe to those who don't befriend him or who get in his way.
DRAMA is PERMANENCE, IMPORTANCE, SERIOUSNESS AND PAIN.
Permanent loss, forever and ever, you see?
So when people do bad things to him, make his already existing
forevers worse, he does forever things back to them. They kill his kid,
he executes them. If he can't execute them, he WISHES THEM INTO HELL
FOREVER.
Forever, forever, forever, forever. You see?
So all these forevers that he is considering, "I am wounded
forever, my kid is wounded forever, I want you to be wounded forever"
sink him more and more into what?
PERSISTENCE FOREVER!
Persistence of what?
DRAMA. Permanence, importance, seriousness and pain.
And that's hell.
And it is a hell FOREVER for him until and just exactly as long as
he continues to dramatize FOREVERS in his dream time.
Once he says "Well, heh, its not forever, this dream ends when the
circle of friends are all holding hands again!" things start to lift for
him and he starts to get free.
But he would have to be willing to be friends again with everyone
in the WHILE. *EVERYONE*. It was all just role playing right?
Woah, that's a big one, right?
List now everyone in your life for whom it wasn't 'just role
playing'.
He would also have to be awfully willing to let others continue to
dramatize their righteous forevers to keep their games going, and for
him to enjoy the spectacle no matter how much they hurt each other or
themselves. As a spectator of the drama he would 'get the joke' and
appreciate the humor to the carnage.
He would also have to be willing to say his last goodbyes to that
while and everyone in it, and go back to the eternal big snooze while
others were still playing the games of doom forever.
He could always come back in later, or join or create a new while,
depending on his sovereign desire at the time.
That's what you want, right?
To be able to create heaven's and hell's at will.
For a while.
Oh, there is someone you don't want to just get out scott free?
Well that holds you here, don't you see?
*YOU* can't confront what you are wishing off on him!
Who now do you think that sinks?
You think you can create an unconfrontable experience and hand it
off to someone else before it burns YOU to toast?
That's what happens to you when you die by the way, all these hells
you been mocking up for others are all just waiting there for you.
You gotta be here, to keep him here.
Omni well done, and Omni Amen.
You can stop doing it, and run it out.
Then you won't have to go through the hells to get to the Heavens.
That's what soloing is about.
Heaven's and Hell's, Forevers and Whiles.
So as Leonard Cohen said:
"Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the waters, and he spent a
long time watching from his lonely wooden tower.
And when he knew for certain that only drowning men could see him,
he said all men shall be sailors then, until the sea shall free them."
In other words you can't audit beings out, until they are ready to
be out.
Until then audit them to be better in.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Clearly if space and time are CREATED, then that which
created space and time had no space and time itself.
If the AllThatIS is a zero dimensional no space/time, then there IS NO
PLACE in which to create actual space/time, so the best it can do is
create holographic illusions of space/time is a scalar substrate, namely
the conscious unit.
Konchok encourages us to look around us and see space/time as proof
that there IS space time.
So do fools looking through a hologram think what they see
on the other side is actual.
Just because we SEE space/time doesn't mean there IS space/time, it
does mean that SOMETHING exists which can, from some delusive viewpoints,
LOOK LIKE space/time.
Konchok is down in delusion about illusion. He thinks the illusion is
actual.
Whether or not anyone can control space/time according to his
wishes is irrelevant. However one does expect that if space/time
is a projection in one's own consciousness, that the possibility for
control is far greater than if space/time is actual and we are made
out of it.
Thus practice with sleep dreams in controlling the course of events is
important, although one finds out that the rules that apply to sleep
dreams are not the same that apply to waking dreams.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Clearly if space and time are CREATED, then that which
created space and time had no space and time itself.
If the AllThatIS is a zero dimensional no space/time, then there IS NO
PLACE in which to create actual space/time, so the best it can do is
create holographic illusions of space/time is a scalar substrate, namely
the conscious unit.
Konchok encourages us to look around us and see space/time as proof
that there IS space time.
So do fools looking through a hologram think what they see
on the other side is actual.
Just because we SEE space/time doesn't mean there IS space/time, it
does mean that SOMETHING exists which can, from some delusive viewpoints,
LOOK LIKE space/time.
Konchok is down in delusion about illusion. He thinks the illusion is
actual.
Whether or not anyone can control space/time according to his
wishes is irrelevant. However one does expect that if space/time
is a projection in one's own consciousness, that the possibility for
control is far greater than if space/time is actual and we are made
out of it.
Thus practice with sleep dreams in controlling the course of events is
important, although one finds out that the rules that apply to sleep
dreams are not the same that apply to waking dreams.
Homer
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=========== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===============
Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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