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THE DICOM TORTILLA
DICOM = DIchotomy of Comparable and Opposite Magnitude.
People have themselves wrapped up in dicoms like meatballs inside a
tortilla.
"It is good to do good to good.
It is good to do evil to evil.
It is evil to do evil to good.
It is evil to do good to evil."
"Love loves love.
Love hates hate.
Hate hates love.
Hate loves Hate."
Run the tortilla by spotting:
"Spot some love loving love.
Spot some love hating hate.
etc.
Also don't forget odd tortilla items that may not make immediate
sense:
"Spot some love hating love.
Spot some hate hating hate."
Run until deep fried in butter and golden brown.
Homer
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Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
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SOMETHING AND NOTHING II
> Can you explain this to Scientologists?
Yes easily, if they are really scientologists and not just carrion
looking for a job.
There is as-isness, the moment of creation and vanishment. The
creation vanishes once the being takes his attention off the creation,
but time hasn't been created yet, so they are the same moment. Hard to
put into words as anything timeless is.
Anyone can do this with a mockup.
There is Alter-isness, which is the act of altering one's awareness
of the truth about the creation, which then causes it to persist because
one is no longer free to take one's attention off of it entirely.
For example the idea that one has a mockup that someone ELSE
created without his permission is enough to morbidly fixate the
attention of the creator on his creation because now he thinks he didn't
create it and who the hell did!
It is a violation of sovereignty and puts the being on high alert,
and now he doesn't WANT to get rid of the creation, because he is using
it as proof that his sovereignty was violated and something else very
dangerous is in the universe that can create things for him. Creates
monster feelings and vibrations.
That is one way to alter-is something into unwilling persistence.
Another way is simply to consider that one must DO something
about the creation in order to get rid of it, that's vanish A by
creating B. Got bugs? Get Raid.
This idea that he must DO something about the creation, means he
has to create MORE to uncreate what was already created, which creates
the conception of time, powered by the idea that the original creation
is STILL THERE, so of course it is.
Thus anything he attacks or runs away from remains persisting
by definition of the power of the postulate that IT IS.
There is Is-ness, which is the persisting apparencies of existence
composed of all the altered creations that have ever been made that have
not yet been re as-ised.
One re as-ises something by recovering the exact moment and place
the creation was first created and alter-ised, only this time one
forgoes the alter-is, at which point one can take one's attention off it
and it vanishes.
However most beings have forgotten how to re as-is things, or they
don't believe it is possible. Instead they try to not-is them, which
means throwing black mental mass and force at the creation to make it
appear to not be there.
Thus a not-isness is a pretended re as-isness.
The vanishment brought about by true uncreation is not the same as
the apparent vanishment of the NO and REFUSED.
Thus
"All case results from the effort to vanish creations via
not-isness rather than as-isness."
It's technical, but any Scner who can't grok the terminology is not
a Scner but an imposter.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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> Can you explain this to Scientologists?
Yes easily, if they are really scientologists and not just carrion
looking for a job.
There is as-isness, the moment of creation and vanishment. The
creation vanishes once the being takes his attention off the creation,
but time hasn't been created yet, so they are the same moment. Hard to
put into words as anything timeless is.
Anyone can do this with a mockup.
There is Alter-isness, which is the act of altering one's awareness
of the truth about the creation, which then causes it to persist because
one is no longer free to take one's attention off of it entirely.
For example the idea that one has a mockup that someone ELSE
created without his permission is enough to morbidly fixate the
attention of the creator on his creation because now he thinks he didn't
create it and who the hell did!
It is a violation of sovereignty and puts the being on high alert,
and now he doesn't WANT to get rid of the creation, because he is using
it as proof that his sovereignty was violated and something else very
dangerous is in the universe that can create things for him. Creates
monster feelings and vibrations.
That is one way to alter-is something into unwilling persistence.
Another way is simply to consider that one must DO something
about the creation in order to get rid of it, that's vanish A by
creating B. Got bugs? Get Raid.
This idea that he must DO something about the creation, means he
has to create MORE to uncreate what was already created, which creates
the conception of time, powered by the idea that the original creation
is STILL THERE, so of course it is.
Thus anything he attacks or runs away from remains persisting
by definition of the power of the postulate that IT IS.
There is Is-ness, which is the persisting apparencies of existence
composed of all the altered creations that have ever been made that have
not yet been re as-ised.
One re as-ises something by recovering the exact moment and place
the creation was first created and alter-ised, only this time one
forgoes the alter-is, at which point one can take one's attention off it
and it vanishes.
However most beings have forgotten how to re as-is things, or they
don't believe it is possible. Instead they try to not-is them, which
means throwing black mental mass and force at the creation to make it
appear to not be there.
Thus a not-isness is a pretended re as-isness.
The vanishment brought about by true uncreation is not the same as
the apparent vanishment of the NO and REFUSED.
Thus
"All case results from the effort to vanish creations via
not-isness rather than as-isness."
It's technical, but any Scner who can't grok the terminology is not
a Scner but an imposter.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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LEARNING AND UNLEARNING
Michael (mickel1234@blueyonder.co.uk) wrote:
>I can see that, so it is a process of extraction then? from all the things
>that got us into our present situations, as a person extracts themselves
>from all this stuff they become more aware of their Spiritual nature and do
>not rely on mind pictures anymore, or should I say are not controlled or at
>the effect of the mind.
On learns through life that being unable is good for one.
This needs to be unlearned at every point we learned it.
Every lock, secondary, engram is a moment of learning, postulates
made to commit to that learning, all of which needs to be unlearned.
The bank is held in place by dramatizing the learning we did
during the incidents that are in chronic restim. We call this being
in the winning valence (even if it is our own to gain sympathy), and
that 'learning' of how to win needs to be as-ised.
This has nothing to do with physical universe learning, which is an
intentional game of learning, this has to do with spiritual ability,
which comes as a total knowingness which doesn't have to be taught how
to operate properly.
The total knowingness knows very well how to operate and how to
screw itself to the nearest tree. Everything learned by the total
knowingness about how to operate is a nail in its cross.
So don't confuse the thetan and body, the thetan gets better by
unlearning, the body gets better by learning. Two different worlds, two
different games.
Homer
Sat Mar 24 01:28:45 EDT 2007
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Michael (mickel1234@blueyonder.co.uk) wrote:
>I can see that, so it is a process of extraction then? from all the things
>that got us into our present situations, as a person extracts themselves
>from all this stuff they become more aware of their Spiritual nature and do
>not rely on mind pictures anymore, or should I say are not controlled or at
>the effect of the mind.
On learns through life that being unable is good for one.
This needs to be unlearned at every point we learned it.
Every lock, secondary, engram is a moment of learning, postulates
made to commit to that learning, all of which needs to be unlearned.
The bank is held in place by dramatizing the learning we did
during the incidents that are in chronic restim. We call this being
in the winning valence (even if it is our own to gain sympathy), and
that 'learning' of how to win needs to be as-ised.
This has nothing to do with physical universe learning, which is an
intentional game of learning, this has to do with spiritual ability,
which comes as a total knowingness which doesn't have to be taught how
to operate properly.
The total knowingness knows very well how to operate and how to
screw itself to the nearest tree. Everything learned by the total
knowingness about how to operate is a nail in its cross.
So don't confuse the thetan and body, the thetan gets better by
unlearning, the body gets better by learning. Two different worlds, two
different games.
Homer
Sat Mar 24 01:28:45 EDT 2007
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SCIENCE AND RELIGION
Ball of Fluff <getoffmyass@fluffentology.com> wrote about Scn:
> I personally prefer "applied religious philosophy".
When people tell me "God doesn't exist"! I tell them to try
redefining the word until it does exist.
Words really get in the way here, "Scn is NOT a religion"! well
define religion. And then go to a dictionary and see if ANY of the
definitions apply etc.
What Scn is as defined by Hubbard is the *SCIENCE* of knowing how
to know answers to questions.
That assumes that all questions are answerable.
I prefer to look at it as a scientifically developed theory of
anatomy and approach.
We have an underlying theory of what a thetan is, an omni operating
lord god almighty, along with all his buddies, an idea of the anatomy of
the mess they got themsevles into, and an approach to reoptimzing his
games for him which HE created WITH THEM.
Thus we have asserted a theory which leads to predictions as to
outcomes from various approaches, experiments, doingnesses, and it
remains up to us to take those approaches and use them, or invent more
of our own and refine the theory, or toss it entirely.
As I have said, if consciousness is a process in meat, then past
lives and OT powerz are all bunk.
On the other hand if the apparency of MEST is a process in
consciousness, the world is a dream, then the very existence of the
world in your consciousness is direct evidence of your own shared
godhood.
The whole intent and direction of auditing then it get the pc to
take responsibility over the things that he thinks made him, until he
gets that he made them.
Then he can control them.
Primary items are space and time and objects in space and time.
Another big primary item is other beings in his dream, he let
them in!
Your average mortal if asked if he created space and time will say
no. He will in fact say that space and time and energy created him, as
the processes in the brain had to evolve before he could be conscious.
So he has elected his entire alleged external universe as cause
over his very existence, which makes him almost 100 percent effect.
I mean how much more effect can you be than to be made and then
destroyed by something else?
About the most cause you can be in that scenario is to sqawk and
complain about it, but never be able to DO anything about it.
Created you were, destroyed you will be, that is absolute in their
world view.
It comes from thinking that the universe is a space time mechanism,
and that consciousness is a process in one of those mechanisms, the
brain.
Scn merely tries to point out to the pc that you don't know if the
physical universe exists, it COULD be all a co shared dream in the mind
of zillions of beings, in which case who made who?
In that case 'God' is a multi I AM being, indulging in co shared
dreams with itself.
Mortals however have a hard time imagining that if there is no
space or time in fact, then whatever was left over couldn't possibly
have the ability to be conscious and create dreams OF space and time.
How can something without any space or time create anything or even
exist at all.
You gotta have something (eternal) to make something (temporal),
and without space time matter or energy, you have something that is
enough of a SOMETHING to make anything else.
It's a big problem to them.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Ball of Fluff <getoffmyass@fluffentology.com> wrote about Scn:
> I personally prefer "applied religious philosophy".
When people tell me "God doesn't exist"! I tell them to try
redefining the word until it does exist.
Words really get in the way here, "Scn is NOT a religion"! well
define religion. And then go to a dictionary and see if ANY of the
definitions apply etc.
What Scn is as defined by Hubbard is the *SCIENCE* of knowing how
to know answers to questions.
That assumes that all questions are answerable.
I prefer to look at it as a scientifically developed theory of
anatomy and approach.
We have an underlying theory of what a thetan is, an omni operating
lord god almighty, along with all his buddies, an idea of the anatomy of
the mess they got themsevles into, and an approach to reoptimzing his
games for him which HE created WITH THEM.
Thus we have asserted a theory which leads to predictions as to
outcomes from various approaches, experiments, doingnesses, and it
remains up to us to take those approaches and use them, or invent more
of our own and refine the theory, or toss it entirely.
As I have said, if consciousness is a process in meat, then past
lives and OT powerz are all bunk.
On the other hand if the apparency of MEST is a process in
consciousness, the world is a dream, then the very existence of the
world in your consciousness is direct evidence of your own shared
godhood.
The whole intent and direction of auditing then it get the pc to
take responsibility over the things that he thinks made him, until he
gets that he made them.
Then he can control them.
Primary items are space and time and objects in space and time.
Another big primary item is other beings in his dream, he let
them in!
Your average mortal if asked if he created space and time will say
no. He will in fact say that space and time and energy created him, as
the processes in the brain had to evolve before he could be conscious.
So he has elected his entire alleged external universe as cause
over his very existence, which makes him almost 100 percent effect.
I mean how much more effect can you be than to be made and then
destroyed by something else?
About the most cause you can be in that scenario is to sqawk and
complain about it, but never be able to DO anything about it.
Created you were, destroyed you will be, that is absolute in their
world view.
It comes from thinking that the universe is a space time mechanism,
and that consciousness is a process in one of those mechanisms, the
brain.
Scn merely tries to point out to the pc that you don't know if the
physical universe exists, it COULD be all a co shared dream in the mind
of zillions of beings, in which case who made who?
In that case 'God' is a multi I AM being, indulging in co shared
dreams with itself.
Mortals however have a hard time imagining that if there is no
space or time in fact, then whatever was left over couldn't possibly
have the ability to be conscious and create dreams OF space and time.
How can something without any space or time create anything or even
exist at all.
You gotta have something (eternal) to make something (temporal),
and without space time matter or energy, you have something that is
enough of a SOMETHING to make anything else.
It's a big problem to them.
Homer
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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MOTHER AND CHILD REUNION
Run The Final Process on mother and child.
Replace is, with could be, would be, should be, might be etc.
Run trans life from beginning of time to end of time, all universes.
Spot the best mother there is.
Spot the worst mother there is.
Spot the best mother there has ever been.
Spot the worst mother there has ever been.
Spot the best mother there will be.
Spot the worst mother there will be.
Spot the best mother you have ever had.
Spot the worst mother you have ever had.
Spot the best mother you have.
Spot the worst mother you have.
Spot the best mother you will ever have.
Spot the worst mother you will ever have.
Spot the best mother you have ever been.
Spot the worst mother you have ever been.
Spot the best mother you are.
Spot the worst mother you are.
Spot the best mother you will have.
Spot the worst mother you will have.
Spot your true mother in this life time (not the valences she
was stuck in).
Spot your true child in this life time.
How could you rewrite this life time to bring out the
true both of you's when it first went wrong?
E/P Mother and child best friends again, and willing to hold hands.
Homer
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Run The Final Process on mother and child.
Replace is, with could be, would be, should be, might be etc.
Run trans life from beginning of time to end of time, all universes.
Spot the best mother there is.
Spot the worst mother there is.
Spot the best mother there has ever been.
Spot the worst mother there has ever been.
Spot the best mother there will be.
Spot the worst mother there will be.
Spot the best mother you have ever had.
Spot the worst mother you have ever had.
Spot the best mother you have.
Spot the worst mother you have.
Spot the best mother you will ever have.
Spot the worst mother you will ever have.
Spot the best mother you have ever been.
Spot the worst mother you have ever been.
Spot the best mother you are.
Spot the worst mother you are.
Spot the best mother you will have.
Spot the worst mother you will have.
Spot your true mother in this life time (not the valences she
was stuck in).
Spot your true child in this life time.
How could you rewrite this life time to bring out the
true both of you's when it first went wrong?
E/P Mother and child best friends again, and willing to hold hands.
Homer
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ONE FACSIMILE BT's
In article
<d2f231f3-1d5b-44f6-a475-fce8ac8c3d9f@t21g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>
a poster wrote about comments made by Richard Ford. The poster
said:
> Homer is quite right, you use strawmen... You have refused and still
> refuse till this day to engage in any serious discussion or
> investigation about these matters.
Homer:
Richard Ford is being a BT, a Body Thetan or Cluster.
Run the following, point at him accusatively, holding his eyes at
all times with yours, and say:
"YOU ARE A BT OR CLUSTER!
What are you?
Who are you?
How many are you?
1 trillion? 10 trillion? 100 trillion? more?
You are real people!"
Repeat any line that produces standstill, eyes wide or cooperation.
The how many question may have to go up into the 10**50 or higher.
He has only one point he is making to us.
If all this stuff is true, how come we can't/won't give him
evidence on the matter via demonstration of paranormal 'powers'.
For him that evidence would have to be physical plane evidence
only, weapons of war stuff, as he himself couldn't stand the light of
emotional, mental or spiritual plane evidence that he couldn't share or
use to dominate others.
Now that is fine, but I don't have physical plane powers, except
make myself sick almost at will, and I won't have those powers until my
spiritual, mental and emotional plane powers come to full fruition.
Lots and lots of evidences for those, sometimes I have to slap them
down like bugs crawling all over my inner space.
It's a top down process.
Now if and when I do get physical plane powers, in this or some
future life, the question remains whether Richard Ford would pass any
enforced security test of the time on the matter.
He certainly wouldn't now.
Approach is everything, contempt doesn't cut. No one OWES him a
demonstration. Nor does anyone owe him being quiet, although we do
admonish against claiming to have physical plane powers in public unless
you are prepared to demonstrate.
As for physical evidence, lots of people have evidence, but it is
not replicatable because of the danger to being that able in this
universe at this time. No matter how OT a person is, there are millions
of ex carnate beings way more OT than he is who would like to keep him
on his cross.
That RICHARD FORD has zero evidence of any kind giving him an
inkling of the possibility of a spiritual world, indicates his own
shallowness and possible opposition to eternal life.
There are no chronic innocent victims here, and to live a whole
life, do all those drugs, have all those near death experiences, all
those sleep dreams, all those tears and laughter at the bottom of the
well, all that blinding love and guilt, and not have one single inkling
that this life may not be all that is, is just so shallow as to be
inconceivable.
It's mostly a light and emotional shut off case.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ONE FACSIMILE BT's
In article
<d2f231f3-1d5b-44f6-a475-fce8ac8c3d9f@t21g2000yqg.googlegroups.com>
a poster wrote about comments made by Richard Ford. The poster
said:
> Homer is quite right, you use strawmen... You have refused and still
> refuse till this day to engage in any serious discussion or
> investigation about these matters.
Homer:
Richard Ford is being a BT, a Body Thetan or Cluster.
Run the following, point at him accusatively, holding his eyes at
all times with yours, and say:
"YOU ARE A BT OR CLUSTER!
What are you?
Who are you?
How many are you?
1 trillion? 10 trillion? 100 trillion? more?
You are real people!"
Repeat any line that produces standstill, eyes wide or cooperation.
The how many question may have to go up into the 10**50 or higher.
He has only one point he is making to us.
If all this stuff is true, how come we can't/won't give him
evidence on the matter via demonstration of paranormal 'powers'.
For him that evidence would have to be physical plane evidence
only, weapons of war stuff, as he himself couldn't stand the light of
emotional, mental or spiritual plane evidence that he couldn't share or
use to dominate others.
Now that is fine, but I don't have physical plane powers, except
make myself sick almost at will, and I won't have those powers until my
spiritual, mental and emotional plane powers come to full fruition.
Lots and lots of evidences for those, sometimes I have to slap them
down like bugs crawling all over my inner space.
It's a top down process.
Now if and when I do get physical plane powers, in this or some
future life, the question remains whether Richard Ford would pass any
enforced security test of the time on the matter.
He certainly wouldn't now.
Approach is everything, contempt doesn't cut. No one OWES him a
demonstration. Nor does anyone owe him being quiet, although we do
admonish against claiming to have physical plane powers in public unless
you are prepared to demonstrate.
As for physical evidence, lots of people have evidence, but it is
not replicatable because of the danger to being that able in this
universe at this time. No matter how OT a person is, there are millions
of ex carnate beings way more OT than he is who would like to keep him
on his cross.
That RICHARD FORD has zero evidence of any kind giving him an
inkling of the possibility of a spiritual world, indicates his own
shallowness and possible opposition to eternal life.
There are no chronic innocent victims here, and to live a whole
life, do all those drugs, have all those near death experiences, all
those sleep dreams, all those tears and laughter at the bottom of the
well, all that blinding love and guilt, and not have one single inkling
that this life may not be all that is, is just so shallow as to be
inconceivable.
It's mostly a light and emotional shut off case.
Homer
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Posted: Sat Aug 15 22:32:54 EDT 2015
ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/homer/adore756.memo
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================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===================
Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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eco14.memo (fwd)
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THE ROYALTY HOUR
There is something called a royalty hour, its when an author or
artist spends an hour writing something, and then he sells it to a
mass market that keeps on buying it forever. Thus he has a steady
stream of income even though in theory he isn't doing anything any
more.
He spends 10 minutes writing a hit song, or 1 year writing a best
selling novel, that continues to sell for 50 years, and he lives off
the royalties he receives from those sales.
So the one year he spent writing the book can be chalked up to just
so many royalty hours of work, as they lead to collecting royalty
payments later even when he isn't working.
Now a farmer planting corn has no such leisure, every year he has
to go out and do it all over again. There is no royalty hour here, you
sow for an hour, and you reap, then its gone, so you have to sow again
for another hour, for the rest of your life.
The farmer however has the advantage of multiple return on his
work, he may use 1000 seed of corn to plant a corn field but he gets
back 100,000 seed of corn. Because the sow and reap cycle is inherently
exothermic, he gets back many times his return on investment.
The artist or writer however usually spends a lot more writing the
book in the first year than he gets during the first sale, so he depends
on his royalty hours to deliver him his multiple return on investment in
later years.
Now one is not saying that one way is better or more right than
another, its merely the way things are, its an artifact of the free
market system operating under the conditions of the physical universe
where the sow and reap cycles take place.
Human considerations about good or bad or how things should be, are
all irrelevant.
But the physical universe can change, it has very little interest
in humans per se, and where royalty hours may be quite lucrative at one
time, they may be a death sentence at another.
Just so with copyrights, which are an effort to protect and
maximize the royalty hours of the people who are interested in them.
At one time copyrights were enforceable, so people took advantage
of that and the kind of art that was produced was the kind of art that
lent it self to royalty hours, as was the kind of business that grew up
around it, publishers, producers, lawyers etc.
This was neither right nor wrong, it was just how things were, the
climate was right for this kind of growth.
But now the physical universe is changing again, and the
enforceability of certain kinds of copyrights on certain kinds of
royalty hours is vanishing. Some may complain that this is not 'right',
but it is neither right nor wrong, it just is, the physical universe
doesn't care about right and wrong, it provides the playing ground and
those that can survive do, and those that can't don't.
One can resist the change, but there is no future in that.
That leads only to petrification and death.
Homer
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Posted: Sat Aug 15 22:25:48 EDT 2015
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================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===================
Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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THE ROYALTY HOUR
There is something called a royalty hour, its when an author or
artist spends an hour writing something, and then he sells it to a
mass market that keeps on buying it forever. Thus he has a steady
stream of income even though in theory he isn't doing anything any
more.
He spends 10 minutes writing a hit song, or 1 year writing a best
selling novel, that continues to sell for 50 years, and he lives off
the royalties he receives from those sales.
So the one year he spent writing the book can be chalked up to just
so many royalty hours of work, as they lead to collecting royalty
payments later even when he isn't working.
Now a farmer planting corn has no such leisure, every year he has
to go out and do it all over again. There is no royalty hour here, you
sow for an hour, and you reap, then its gone, so you have to sow again
for another hour, for the rest of your life.
The farmer however has the advantage of multiple return on his
work, he may use 1000 seed of corn to plant a corn field but he gets
back 100,000 seed of corn. Because the sow and reap cycle is inherently
exothermic, he gets back many times his return on investment.
The artist or writer however usually spends a lot more writing the
book in the first year than he gets during the first sale, so he depends
on his royalty hours to deliver him his multiple return on investment in
later years.
Now one is not saying that one way is better or more right than
another, its merely the way things are, its an artifact of the free
market system operating under the conditions of the physical universe
where the sow and reap cycles take place.
Human considerations about good or bad or how things should be, are
all irrelevant.
But the physical universe can change, it has very little interest
in humans per se, and where royalty hours may be quite lucrative at one
time, they may be a death sentence at another.
Just so with copyrights, which are an effort to protect and
maximize the royalty hours of the people who are interested in them.
At one time copyrights were enforceable, so people took advantage
of that and the kind of art that was produced was the kind of art that
lent it self to royalty hours, as was the kind of business that grew up
around it, publishers, producers, lawyers etc.
This was neither right nor wrong, it was just how things were, the
climate was right for this kind of growth.
But now the physical universe is changing again, and the
enforceability of certain kinds of copyrights on certain kinds of
royalty hours is vanishing. Some may complain that this is not 'right',
but it is neither right nor wrong, it just is, the physical universe
doesn't care about right and wrong, it provides the playing ground and
those that can survive do, and those that can't don't.
One can resist the change, but there is no future in that.
That leads only to petrification and death.
Homer
======================= http://www.clearing.org ========================
Posted: Sat Aug 15 22:25:48 EDT 2015
ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/homer/eco14.memo
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================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===================
Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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