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TO DEMONSTRATE OR NOT TO DEMONSTRATE OT POWERS
SCI - 21
Copyright (C) 1992 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
John,
The subject of proof is a big one. So for the moment I wish to
post a poetic cop out to your question, but I promise to keep it under
consideration.
Do OT's have superhuman powers?
I would presume so.
What are they?
Anything you can imagine, including the creation of universes,
people in those universes, and the ability to become those people in
those universes asking questions about OT.
Can these powers be demonstrated?
Yes, certainly some of the more physical powers surely can be
demonstrated.
Should they be demonstrated?
That would depend on the individual OT who had them and who had to
be accountable for the effects that demonstrating his powers would have.
You mentioned SHOCK in your question about OT's coming to visit
your place out of their body and reporting back to you what they had
seen.
The awareness characteristic scale puts shock at -16,
-12 Disaster
-13 Inactuality
-14 Delusion
-15 Hysteria
-16 Shock
-17 Catatonia
-18 Oblivion
Thus causing any form of shock to a populace at large could hardly
be considered good for a civilization.
Hubbard taught us to do everything on a gradient scale, which means
little by little, not all at once. Therefore enormous displays of
unquestionable demonstrations were frowned upon by Hubbard.
I would tend to agree.
It is very dangerous to demonstrate power to those who do not have
power.
Those who have power know this.
Those who do not have power, don't know this.
What can you do?
Now here is the cop out, if you are serious about getting proof of
power I would instead audit you on the subject of power until some power
opened up in you. It needn't be actual abilities to move rocks or
things, but you would get a clear idea that what ever power you desire
is available and in fact you would settle back down into being
comfortably able to NOT have power for a while, or at least until you
were more ready for it.
Just consider what would happen to you if you had the ability to go
anywhere on the planet and see anyone doing anything they were doing,
and you could kill anyone with an electrical spark to the brain or
heart. (Nipping, History of Man).
Now the auditing question would be something like,
'Tell me what would happen over time if you had this power?'
The correct E/P of this process would be an experience of power
opening up inside yourself, certainty that power exists, and a settling
out of your willingness to have or not have power as you wished.
Another process for handling people's problems with proof, would
be,
'What evidence do you have that you are not an OT?'
'What evidence do you have that you are an OT?'
What this will turn up are quite a number of false certainties
that people are walking around in that prevent the possibility of
believing in OT. Once they see that these false certainties are just
not supportable, the POSSIBILITY opens up that OT is possible, and they
can approach it again with a new look.
The point is that if someone is an OT and no longer believes this,
they clearly have chosen to prove to themselves down the whole track
that they are not an OT and neither is anyone else.
For you to then go and present them with incontrovertible proof
that they are wrong, would merely open up a very old wound, an OT wound,
that would probably severely hurt the person or his body.
It could kill them.
So although I am truly copping out on a direct answer to your
question, for reasons that I believe to be justified, I am at the same
time presenting you with auditing procedures that you can use on
yourself or someone else to set off a spark of power within your own
space and to open the door to your own further private investigations
free from the harrasment of others.
Others who wish you to prove your powers, wish so because they hope
you have none, or because they want you to use them to take care of
them.
People who demand proof often have a hidden agenda.
Proof is available that THEY have power, not that other's already
have it.
Proof is available for that too but no one with power would be
likely to prove it unless it was part of a larger world changing plan to
do so. In which case they would do it anyhow on their own schedule and
not because someone ask them to.
Here are some more auditing questions to run solo or co audit:
'What would you not with power?'
'What would you do with power?'
'Why should you not have power?'
'Why should you have power?'
By the way the Power Processes of the Church (Grade V) deal with
just this subject. They are held confidential because when run properly
they cause a person to revivify some of the worst moments on his track.
People have little problem with believing in past lives when they
are reliving one as if it were now.
Before such a reviv it may be hard to get real on anything in the
memory, because so much energy is being directed at keeping this one set
of memories at bay.
The power processes by the way are NOT held confidential in the
field and are in fact used in routine auditing as they go quickly and
directly to the center of the case.
If the case is ready for it.
The Power Processes were developed by Ron Hubbard in tandem with
John McMaster at Saint Hill to help crack seriously resistive cases.
John McMaster was Scientology's first confirmed clear, and left the
Church in the early 70's or so.
He made many tapes that are circulating around the field that add a
deep insight to the inner workings of Ron and Scientology, not all bad.
He remained a devoted clearing practitioner until the end, he died
last year.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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REFERENTS AND SYMBOLS IV
SYMBOLS AND REFERENTS IV
A symbol is an object that is used to symbolize or refer to a
referent.
A referent is an object that is symbolized or referred to by a
symbol.
QUALITIES
An object is anything with qualities, that is it has a set of
qualities called a quality set.
NOTHINGS AND SOMETHINGS
A nothing is an object with no qualities, it has an empty quality
set.
A something is an object with some qualities, it has a non empty
quality set.
TWO DIFFERENT OBJECTS
Symbols and referents are TWO DIFFERENT OBJECTS that are used to
symbolize and be referred to by each other.
As two different objects, a symbol and referent have two different
quality sets, the symbol has its own set of qualities and the referent
has its own other set of qualities.
Two different objects implies two different quality sets and two
different quality sets implies two different objects.
Some of the qualities in one set may be the same as the qualities
in the other quality set, but at least one quality must be different or
else both quality sets would be identical and thus not the quality sets
of two different objects.
MAPPING
Some of the qualities of the symbol may be MAPPED onto the
qualities of the referent, thus the symbol can be used to refer to the
referent.
One can thus know directly a quality of the referent by looking at
the quality of the symbol that is mapped to it.
Red ink on paper can thus be used to refer to red light at 700
nanometers shining on the wall from a prism.
CAUSAL PATHWAYS
There is always a causal pathway between a referent and a symbol.
Without the causal pathway, the symbol would never have been
conceived to refer to the referent.
Thus we have the idea that a referent/symbol pair implies
causation.
We take this opportunity with malice aforethought to extend this
idea to assert the converse that by definition causation implies
referent/symbol pairs.
Thus ANY two events in a causal pathway are referent and symbol to
each other.
The earlier event is a referent, and the later event is the symbol.
ORIGINAL REFERENT AND SYMBOL OF FINAL AUTHORITY
Even if there are many causal events between the original referent
and the final symbol, the symbol is still the causal offspring of the
original referent and can thus be validly considered a symbol for the
referent including all which that entails as detailed below.
DATA CONTENT
The later event contains data about the earlier event, thus the
symbol has data content referring back to the referent.
Thus one can infer from the nature of the symbol back to the nature
of the referent.
MECHANICAL LEARNING, LEARNING ABOUT CAUSE BY BEING A EFFECT
LEARNING ABOUT A BY LOOKING AT B
This is called learning about the referent by looking at the
symbol, and is the definition of mechanical learning, learning by being
an effect.
THEORY AND PERFECT CERTAINTY
Such inference however is never certain, as the inference from
symbol back to referent depends on the unprovable assumption that the
symbol was in fact caused or affected by the referent.
CAUSAL DISTANCE AND DATA FALL OFF
The data content of the symbol falls off in proportion to its
causal distance from the referent.
Causal distance is distance in space, time and number of
intervening events, called causal hops, between referent and symbol.
Spacetime distance implies causal distance for there has to be at
least TWO events for there to be space or time between them.
Non zero causal distance implies non zero spacetime distance,
because two events that happen in the same space *AND* at the same time
are considered to be one event, with causal distance zero between them.
DISTANCE IMPLIES NOT LEARNING WITH CERTAINTY
One can not learn with certainty about any referent by looking at a
symbol removed from the referent by a causal or spacetime distance.
MECHANICAL LEARNING AND CONSCIOUS LEARNING
Mechanical learning is learning about a referent by looking at
later symbols.
Learning across TIME.
Conscious learning is learning about a referent by looking at the
referent directly in present time.
SELF SYMBOLIZING REFERENTS and SELF REFERENCING SYMBOLS
Conscious mockups (of color form say) are self luminous or self
symbolizing.
It is possible for a referent to be used to symbolize itself.
This is called a self symbolizing referent or a self referencing
symbol.
PERFECT CERTAINTY
As such the referent and the symbol are not two different objects
but one and the same object. Since they have identical quality sets,
the data content of the symbol is an exact match with the truth of the
referent and thus a perfect certainty can be obtained about the referent
by looking at the symbol because the symbol IS the referent.
Notice that since a self symbolizing referent and its symbol
(namely itself) are one and the same object there can be no space, time
or causal distance between them.
CAUSEEFFECT
Where normal referents and symbols relate to each other by cause
and effect across a causal distance, a self symbolizing referent relates
to its symbol by causeeffect across no causal distance.
Causeeffect is when cause and effect are one and the same event.
CAUSAL CHAINS
All mechanical phenomenon are causal chains of referent and symbol
operating across a 4 dimensional spacetime causal distance.
One learns mechanically about referents by looking at later
symbols. This gives rise to theories and probabilities about the
referent but no perfect certainty.
SCALAR ZERO DIMENSIONAL SPACE
All conscious phenomenon are causal chains of self symbolizing
(self luminous) referents operating within a zero dimensional, no space,
no time, no causal distance called a SCALAR MANIFOLD.
A scalar manifold is an intentional oxymoron, as manifold means
many fold or 1 or more dimensions.
A scalar object is a qualitatively different kind of an object
than a manifold because manifolds have extensions in each dimension but
scalars do not.
Even if a manifold has a zero length extension in any dimension,
it still has the dimension and remains a manifold.
Thus a {3x4x0} manifold is a 3 dimensional object of 0 volume.
However a {} scalar is a 0 dimensional object of *N/A* volume.
N/A means no applicable.
A object can be scalar and still be a something as the universe
shows us, because the universe is scalar.
DIRECT AND INDIRECT PERCEPTION
One learns consciously about referents by looking directly at the
referent universe by using DIRECT PERCEPTION of the cause itself.
This IS perfect certainty.
Learning about a referent by looking directly at the referent is
called DIRECT PERCEPTION or conscious seeing.
Machines learn about a referent by studying one of its later
symbols and is called INDIRECT PERCEPTION.
Machine's can not see, they can only infer possibilities.
All mechanical learning in the physical universe is through indirect
perception.
THEORY MODEL AND EVIDENCE.
Indirect perception can only give rise to THEORY MODEL and EVIDENCE.
ACTUALITY AND REALITY
Actuality refers to what IS TRUE, Reality refers to what
we THINK is true.
The purpose of investigation is to bring our sense of reality closer
to actuality.
If there were actual space, time or causal distance between a being
and his color mockups, he would not be able to SEE them.
If the mockup of two different colors you made out there 10 feet in
front of your face were actually out there, not just in illusion of out
there, you wouldn't be able to see them.
You would only be able to BE something different as a result of
them, from which you might then infer back to their possible existence.
Is that how you see a red mockup? An inference from an effect in
yourself?
Or do you just see the red mockup period.
Yes seeing the red IS an effect in yourself, but are you learning
about the red by looking at the secondary effect, or by looking directly
at the red?
Since you can see your mockups, they aren't out there where they
look to be.
When people say that something is not out there, others tend to take
this to mean the thing doesn't exist at all.
When we say that color mockups are not out there, we mean only that
they are not out there, they do exist, but not out there where they look
like they are. The distance between perceiver and perceived is illusory,
holographic in nature.
Thus conscious perception of space is a reality of space, not an
actuality of space.
And thus consciousness has no dimension of any kind, and no
space/time or causal distance between Looker and Looked At.
Homer
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A symbol is an object that is used to symbolize or refer to a
referent.
A referent is an object that is symbolized or referred to by a
symbol.
QUALITIES
An object is anything with qualities, that is it has a set of
qualities called a quality set.
NOTHINGS AND SOMETHINGS
A nothing is an object with no qualities, it has an empty quality
set.
A something is an object with some qualities, it has a non empty
quality set.
TWO DIFFERENT OBJECTS
Symbols and referents are TWO DIFFERENT OBJECTS that are used to
symbolize and be referred to by each other.
As two different objects, a symbol and referent have two different
quality sets, the symbol has its own set of qualities and the referent
has its own other set of qualities.
Two different objects implies two different quality sets and two
different quality sets implies two different objects.
Some of the qualities in one set may be the same as the qualities
in the other quality set, but at least one quality must be different or
else both quality sets would be identical and thus not the quality sets
of two different objects.
MAPPING
Some of the qualities of the symbol may be MAPPED onto the
qualities of the referent, thus the symbol can be used to refer to the
referent.
One can thus know directly a quality of the referent by looking at
the quality of the symbol that is mapped to it.
Red ink on paper can thus be used to refer to red light at 700
nanometers shining on the wall from a prism.
CAUSAL PATHWAYS
There is always a causal pathway between a referent and a symbol.
Without the causal pathway, the symbol would never have been
conceived to refer to the referent.
Thus we have the idea that a referent/symbol pair implies
causation.
We take this opportunity with malice aforethought to extend this
idea to assert the converse that by definition causation implies
referent/symbol pairs.
Thus ANY two events in a causal pathway are referent and symbol to
each other.
The earlier event is a referent, and the later event is the symbol.
ORIGINAL REFERENT AND SYMBOL OF FINAL AUTHORITY
Even if there are many causal events between the original referent
and the final symbol, the symbol is still the causal offspring of the
original referent and can thus be validly considered a symbol for the
referent including all which that entails as detailed below.
DATA CONTENT
The later event contains data about the earlier event, thus the
symbol has data content referring back to the referent.
Thus one can infer from the nature of the symbol back to the nature
of the referent.
MECHANICAL LEARNING, LEARNING ABOUT CAUSE BY BEING A EFFECT
LEARNING ABOUT A BY LOOKING AT B
This is called learning about the referent by looking at the
symbol, and is the definition of mechanical learning, learning by being
an effect.
THEORY AND PERFECT CERTAINTY
Such inference however is never certain, as the inference from
symbol back to referent depends on the unprovable assumption that the
symbol was in fact caused or affected by the referent.
CAUSAL DISTANCE AND DATA FALL OFF
The data content of the symbol falls off in proportion to its
causal distance from the referent.
Causal distance is distance in space, time and number of
intervening events, called causal hops, between referent and symbol.
Spacetime distance implies causal distance for there has to be at
least TWO events for there to be space or time between them.
Non zero causal distance implies non zero spacetime distance,
because two events that happen in the same space *AND* at the same time
are considered to be one event, with causal distance zero between them.
DISTANCE IMPLIES NOT LEARNING WITH CERTAINTY
One can not learn with certainty about any referent by looking at a
symbol removed from the referent by a causal or spacetime distance.
MECHANICAL LEARNING AND CONSCIOUS LEARNING
Mechanical learning is learning about a referent by looking at
later symbols.
Learning across TIME.
Conscious learning is learning about a referent by looking at the
referent directly in present time.
SELF SYMBOLIZING REFERENTS and SELF REFERENCING SYMBOLS
Conscious mockups (of color form say) are self luminous or self
symbolizing.
It is possible for a referent to be used to symbolize itself.
This is called a self symbolizing referent or a self referencing
symbol.
PERFECT CERTAINTY
As such the referent and the symbol are not two different objects
but one and the same object. Since they have identical quality sets,
the data content of the symbol is an exact match with the truth of the
referent and thus a perfect certainty can be obtained about the referent
by looking at the symbol because the symbol IS the referent.
Notice that since a self symbolizing referent and its symbol
(namely itself) are one and the same object there can be no space, time
or causal distance between them.
CAUSEEFFECT
Where normal referents and symbols relate to each other by cause
and effect across a causal distance, a self symbolizing referent relates
to its symbol by causeeffect across no causal distance.
Causeeffect is when cause and effect are one and the same event.
CAUSAL CHAINS
All mechanical phenomenon are causal chains of referent and symbol
operating across a 4 dimensional spacetime causal distance.
One learns mechanically about referents by looking at later
symbols. This gives rise to theories and probabilities about the
referent but no perfect certainty.
SCALAR ZERO DIMENSIONAL SPACE
All conscious phenomenon are causal chains of self symbolizing
(self luminous) referents operating within a zero dimensional, no space,
no time, no causal distance called a SCALAR MANIFOLD.
A scalar manifold is an intentional oxymoron, as manifold means
many fold or 1 or more dimensions.
A scalar object is a qualitatively different kind of an object
than a manifold because manifolds have extensions in each dimension but
scalars do not.
Even if a manifold has a zero length extension in any dimension,
it still has the dimension and remains a manifold.
Thus a {3x4x0} manifold is a 3 dimensional object of 0 volume.
However a {} scalar is a 0 dimensional object of *N/A* volume.
N/A means no applicable.
A object can be scalar and still be a something as the universe
shows us, because the universe is scalar.
DIRECT AND INDIRECT PERCEPTION
One learns consciously about referents by looking directly at the
referent universe by using DIRECT PERCEPTION of the cause itself.
This IS perfect certainty.
Learning about a referent by looking directly at the referent is
called DIRECT PERCEPTION or conscious seeing.
Machines learn about a referent by studying one of its later
symbols and is called INDIRECT PERCEPTION.
Machine's can not see, they can only infer possibilities.
All mechanical learning in the physical universe is through indirect
perception.
THEORY MODEL AND EVIDENCE.
Indirect perception can only give rise to THEORY MODEL and EVIDENCE.
ACTUALITY AND REALITY
Actuality refers to what IS TRUE, Reality refers to what
we THINK is true.
The purpose of investigation is to bring our sense of reality closer
to actuality.
If there were actual space, time or causal distance between a being
and his color mockups, he would not be able to SEE them.
If the mockup of two different colors you made out there 10 feet in
front of your face were actually out there, not just in illusion of out
there, you wouldn't be able to see them.
You would only be able to BE something different as a result of
them, from which you might then infer back to their possible existence.
Is that how you see a red mockup? An inference from an effect in
yourself?
Or do you just see the red mockup period.
Yes seeing the red IS an effect in yourself, but are you learning
about the red by looking at the secondary effect, or by looking directly
at the red?
Since you can see your mockups, they aren't out there where they
look to be.
When people say that something is not out there, others tend to take
this to mean the thing doesn't exist at all.
When we say that color mockups are not out there, we mean only that
they are not out there, they do exist, but not out there where they look
like they are. The distance between perceiver and perceived is illusory,
holographic in nature.
Thus conscious perception of space is a reality of space, not an
actuality of space.
And thus consciousness has no dimension of any kind, and no
space/time or causal distance between Looker and Looked At.
Homer
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POCK MARK ON THE FACE OF GOD
Homer:
>> All Consciousness is a pock mark on the face of God.
Ouran:
>Very pithy! Well said! It's tone made me laugh aloud too! :)
Well its not original with me, came from a Sufi book called 'The
only dance there is'.
It flies in the face of the dicom pushers like Carol who insist
that God is Good, True, Beautiful, Light etc, that all Evil, Lies, Ugly,
Darkness comes from man and that we should all strive to become like God
perfect, strong and nice, forever and ever Amen.
I mean how far can you push dicoms on a one way flow before you go
nuts?
The essence of auditing is to find the dicoms one is dramatizing,
see that each dicom is a pair of wings around a central void, and visit
the void once in a while.
The void between the dicoms is the Throne of the Author.
Again we run into the problem of unmanifestation, is the void Good?
Well it sure beats suffering forever. But from the void comes both Good
and Evil in a tapestry of authorship. So is that good? Are Author's
good?
The answer is, there are two kinds of good, Godly good and human
good.
"Virtue for the Creator is not Virtue for the Creature" - Olaf
Stapleton, Starmaker
Is the Creator Good? Should the Creature AS A CREATURE strive to
be like the Creator? If a creature created other creatures and put them
on a planet to fight out their wars of ignorance and free will, would we
look upon that as Godly?
If you believe in God the creator, then your whole life, and
the entire universe you and everyone else lives and dies in,
is the fruit of this Creator.
Is that Good?
So again we have this problem that there are two classes of dicoms,
the dicoms that describe the Native State (Creator) in its unmanifest
phase (Peace, Truth, Beauty, Goodness), and the dicoms that Native State
Manifests such as Good-Evil, Truth-Lies, Beauty-Ugly.
Hubbard said that theta was natively closest to Beauty, thus in
some way aligning the top of the tone scale and total unmanifestation
with Beauty, and the bottom of the tone scale and total manifestation
with Ugly.
In this sense all dicoms are actually dicoms of UnManifestation
descending down into Manifestation, where UnManifestation are all the
positive dicoms like good, truth, beauty, light, peace etc, and
Manifestation is all the negative dicoms like evil, lies, ugly, darkness
and worry.
This drives the manifestation pushers crazy, for they are selling
"But Manifestation is GOOD!"
Manifestation is Good? Here I have a self nailing Cross to sell
you.
Adore says that all persistence is of persisting lies.
There is a common tendency to give both sides of all dicoms equal
value and weight. Love is one side, Hate is another, who cares which
one you choose?
Adore says this is not true.
Adore says that all positive dicoms fade away into sleep at the top
of the tone scale. Descend into dream time and you get peace, beauty,
love, light etc, descend further and you get worry, ugly, hate, darkness
etc.
The whole scale is a scale of Truth and Lies, where Truth is sleep
and total unmanifestation, and everything lower in dreamtime is some lie
creeping in or another.
Love is therefore more right and desirable than Hate, but the Peace
that Passeth all Understanding in the Big Snooze at the very top makes
Love look like hell.
The question then remains, why would the unManifest decide or
choose or find value in Manifesting nothing but lies and pock marks on
the face of God?
Adore's answer is relatively complex and esoteric but it all boils
down to one thing "Humor", it feels so good to get Home again, one is
glad one left.
Adore says
"SAFE is Hell and High Water via Eternal Omni Awesome Peace."
This says that there is no place to go, no place to get lost to, so
we are always 'safe' no matter where we are, and that we cycle back into
hell and high water after visiting eternal omni awesome peace (big
snooze) because of this impulse to manifest humor.
We spend most of our time in Hell and High Water.
Humor is basically high appreciation for ludicrous demise.
Ludere means game.
All manifestation is ludicrous demise.
Majesty (Master of Jest) is the impulse towards creating humor via
ludicrous demise.
Adore says that Majesty is the only thing that can bring the total
unmanifest, living at the top of all positive dicoms, to manifest and
engage in the negative side of those same dicoms.
If it weren't for majesty and the impusle towards humor via
ludicrous demise, the peace that passeth all understanding would never
move into manifestation, not even to experience love, light, beauty,
and goodness.
For they are all debased compared to Eternal Omni Awesome Peace.
"ALL consciousness is a pock mark on the face of God."
So if we consider Native State as Author/Creator, we can see that
Beauty, Goodness, Truth, and Peace for it, is to create a world of
strife between the worldly dicoms of similar name but completely
different character.
Goodness for a creature DOES NOT include the impulse towards
creation of humor through ludicrous demise for itself and everyone else.
So the worldly dicoms of good and evil are in fact wings of a dicom
that have a central void to them, which is the Author's throne, as he
can cast entire universes into existence at will using both in tapestry.
Is it evil to create a tapestry of good and evil?
Is it good to create a tapestry of good and evil?
Is it Humorous?
Adore says yes it is humorous, and it is that added component of
Humor that renders the Godly goodness different from the human goodness.
God has no compassion as humans understand it. God knows no one
can get lost forever or hurt forever, and God only writes universes for
himself anyway to jump into. So yes God has a kind of compassion, he
KNOWS he is infinitely and eternally safe, but its not the kind of
compassion that humans take kindly too nor even understand.
He is safe from total destruction, but not from total
pain by His own devisings.
"Who me? *I* certainly never did this to myself!"
"I couldn't have, wouldn't have, shouldn't have, and if you suggest
I did, I will nail you to a cross until you admit you didn't either!"
That's human 'goodness' for you.
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POCK MARK ON THE FACE OF GOD
Homer:
>> All Consciousness is a pock mark on the face of God.
Ouran:
>Very pithy! Well said! It's tone made me laugh aloud too! :)
Well its not original with me, came from a Sufi book called 'The
only dance there is'.
It flies in the face of the dicom pushers like Carol who insist
that God is Good, True, Beautiful, Light etc, that all Evil, Lies, Ugly,
Darkness comes from man and that we should all strive to become like God
perfect, strong and nice, forever and ever Amen.
I mean how far can you push dicoms on a one way flow before you go
nuts?
The essence of auditing is to find the dicoms one is dramatizing,
see that each dicom is a pair of wings around a central void, and visit
the void once in a while.
The void between the dicoms is the Throne of the Author.
Again we run into the problem of unmanifestation, is the void Good?
Well it sure beats suffering forever. But from the void comes both Good
and Evil in a tapestry of authorship. So is that good? Are Author's
good?
The answer is, there are two kinds of good, Godly good and human
good.
"Virtue for the Creator is not Virtue for the Creature" - Olaf
Stapleton, Starmaker
Is the Creator Good? Should the Creature AS A CREATURE strive to
be like the Creator? If a creature created other creatures and put them
on a planet to fight out their wars of ignorance and free will, would we
look upon that as Godly?
If you believe in God the creator, then your whole life, and
the entire universe you and everyone else lives and dies in,
is the fruit of this Creator.
Is that Good?
So again we have this problem that there are two classes of dicoms,
the dicoms that describe the Native State (Creator) in its unmanifest
phase (Peace, Truth, Beauty, Goodness), and the dicoms that Native State
Manifests such as Good-Evil, Truth-Lies, Beauty-Ugly.
Hubbard said that theta was natively closest to Beauty, thus in
some way aligning the top of the tone scale and total unmanifestation
with Beauty, and the bottom of the tone scale and total manifestation
with Ugly.
In this sense all dicoms are actually dicoms of UnManifestation
descending down into Manifestation, where UnManifestation are all the
positive dicoms like good, truth, beauty, light, peace etc, and
Manifestation is all the negative dicoms like evil, lies, ugly, darkness
and worry.
This drives the manifestation pushers crazy, for they are selling
"But Manifestation is GOOD!"
Manifestation is Good? Here I have a self nailing Cross to sell
you.
Adore says that all persistence is of persisting lies.
There is a common tendency to give both sides of all dicoms equal
value and weight. Love is one side, Hate is another, who cares which
one you choose?
Adore says this is not true.
Adore says that all positive dicoms fade away into sleep at the top
of the tone scale. Descend into dream time and you get peace, beauty,
love, light etc, descend further and you get worry, ugly, hate, darkness
etc.
The whole scale is a scale of Truth and Lies, where Truth is sleep
and total unmanifestation, and everything lower in dreamtime is some lie
creeping in or another.
Love is therefore more right and desirable than Hate, but the Peace
that Passeth all Understanding in the Big Snooze at the very top makes
Love look like hell.
The question then remains, why would the unManifest decide or
choose or find value in Manifesting nothing but lies and pock marks on
the face of God?
Adore's answer is relatively complex and esoteric but it all boils
down to one thing "Humor", it feels so good to get Home again, one is
glad one left.
Adore says
"SAFE is Hell and High Water via Eternal Omni Awesome Peace."
This says that there is no place to go, no place to get lost to, so
we are always 'safe' no matter where we are, and that we cycle back into
hell and high water after visiting eternal omni awesome peace (big
snooze) because of this impulse to manifest humor.
We spend most of our time in Hell and High Water.
Humor is basically high appreciation for ludicrous demise.
Ludere means game.
All manifestation is ludicrous demise.
Majesty (Master of Jest) is the impulse towards creating humor via
ludicrous demise.
Adore says that Majesty is the only thing that can bring the total
unmanifest, living at the top of all positive dicoms, to manifest and
engage in the negative side of those same dicoms.
If it weren't for majesty and the impusle towards humor via
ludicrous demise, the peace that passeth all understanding would never
move into manifestation, not even to experience love, light, beauty,
and goodness.
For they are all debased compared to Eternal Omni Awesome Peace.
"ALL consciousness is a pock mark on the face of God."
So if we consider Native State as Author/Creator, we can see that
Beauty, Goodness, Truth, and Peace for it, is to create a world of
strife between the worldly dicoms of similar name but completely
different character.
Goodness for a creature DOES NOT include the impulse towards
creation of humor through ludicrous demise for itself and everyone else.
So the worldly dicoms of good and evil are in fact wings of a dicom
that have a central void to them, which is the Author's throne, as he
can cast entire universes into existence at will using both in tapestry.
Is it evil to create a tapestry of good and evil?
Is it good to create a tapestry of good and evil?
Is it Humorous?
Adore says yes it is humorous, and it is that added component of
Humor that renders the Godly goodness different from the human goodness.
God has no compassion as humans understand it. God knows no one
can get lost forever or hurt forever, and God only writes universes for
himself anyway to jump into. So yes God has a kind of compassion, he
KNOWS he is infinitely and eternally safe, but its not the kind of
compassion that humans take kindly too nor even understand.
He is safe from total destruction, but not from total
pain by His own devisings.
"Who me? *I* certainly never did this to myself!"
"I couldn't have, wouldn't have, shouldn't have, and if you suggest
I did, I will nail you to a cross until you admit you didn't either!"
That's human 'goodness' for you.
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GOD MAN WOMAN CHILD and APPRECIATION
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GOD, MAN, WOMAN, CHILD and APPRECIATION
What does the baby/child appreciate about the woman/mother?
What does the woman appreciate about the baby?
What does the woman appreciate about the man?
What does the man appreciate about the woman?
What does the man appreciate about the God?
What does the god appreciate about the man?
What does the god appreciate about the child at the next
level up?
What does the child appreciate about the god at the prior
level down?
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What does the baby/child appreciate about the woman/mother?
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level up?
What does the child appreciate about the god at the prior
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DEATH AND SORROW
Regardless of whether one can or does know what has happened or
will happen after death, the CHARGE on death and not knowing is enormous
and can be audited out with confession and the cessation of suppression
of sorrow.
Since there is no real evidence for physical mechanics and some
significant evidence that the world is a dream in the mind of a multi I
AM super consciousness, the preclear can at least be audited on all the
false evidence he has for death until his mind is free of enforced
conclusions on the matter.
The only reason the preclear believes in death at all is he has
identified himself with one of his dream avatars, namely his body, and
it is obvious the avatar will die one day as it is made of parts.
An avatar is here defined as a symbol for a referent being.
But if the body is a dream, then there is no way the existence of
the conscious unit could be causally dependent on the existence of
something the conscious unit is dreaming about, namely the alleged
physical universe, as the avatar is the conscious unit's creation, and
not the other way around.
He can also be shown both meatball and dreamball theories in detail
to give him multiple different datums of comparable magnitude on the
subject, and gotten to look at his unawareness of choice for being here.
Running NO and SOME on lies, choice, and sorrow will begin to open
up the charge so he can see what he is up against. It is easy to assume
that because we can not remember, and that we sorrow over death, that
therefore death must be real. The dreamball theory is not easy to wrap
one's wits around, but it becomes easier with the proof which refuses to
allow you to fall below 50/50 on the matter, and a few visions of the
beautific eternal, and evidence starts to mount that we do in fact have
a future head of us.
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
Most meatballs can't handle it. Some very few can.
Once free of the brainwashing and solidly at the 50/50 point, then
he can see for himself, should truth choose to talk to him.
But he's got to listen quiety you know.
Truth talks thunderously with great beauty, but softly none the
less.
And asserting what you do not know, and what you can not know will
not help, for Truth will not even pay attention to those still
committing dharma treason to defend their spiritual decrepitude.
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DEATH AND SORROW
Regardless of whether one can or does know what has happened or
will happen after death, the CHARGE on death and not knowing is enormous
and can be audited out with confession and the cessation of suppression
of sorrow.
Since there is no real evidence for physical mechanics and some
significant evidence that the world is a dream in the mind of a multi I
AM super consciousness, the preclear can at least be audited on all the
false evidence he has for death until his mind is free of enforced
conclusions on the matter.
The only reason the preclear believes in death at all is he has
identified himself with one of his dream avatars, namely his body, and
it is obvious the avatar will die one day as it is made of parts.
An avatar is here defined as a symbol for a referent being.
But if the body is a dream, then there is no way the existence of
the conscious unit could be causally dependent on the existence of
something the conscious unit is dreaming about, namely the alleged
physical universe, as the avatar is the conscious unit's creation, and
not the other way around.
He can also be shown both meatball and dreamball theories in detail
to give him multiple different datums of comparable magnitude on the
subject, and gotten to look at his unawareness of choice for being here.
Running NO and SOME on lies, choice, and sorrow will begin to open
up the charge so he can see what he is up against. It is easy to assume
that because we can not remember, and that we sorrow over death, that
therefore death must be real. The dreamball theory is not easy to wrap
one's wits around, but it becomes easier with the proof which refuses to
allow you to fall below 50/50 on the matter, and a few visions of the
beautific eternal, and evidence starts to mount that we do in fact have
a future head of us.
http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
Most meatballs can't handle it. Some very few can.
Once free of the brainwashing and solidly at the 50/50 point, then
he can see for himself, should truth choose to talk to him.
But he's got to listen quiety you know.
Truth talks thunderously with great beauty, but softly none the
less.
And asserting what you do not know, and what you can not know will
not help, for Truth will not even pay attention to those still
committing dharma treason to defend their spiritual decrepitude.
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SEARCHING FOR THE ARCX
I have very good reality on my first dynamic, but I do not
appreciate myself, always up to my nose in water and I can't breath
through my nose.
My second dynamic is a disaster, hated my parents both of whom
bombed out early leaving me with foster parents who were zombie zoners,
I mean just no one home at all, whom I hated more, and disconnected from
at first chance.
Never knew my grand parents, and could care less about the
Tennessee swamp dwelling sub protoplasm that calls itself relatives on
my mother's side. No clue about my father's side.
Since I debonded with most of life during the second dynamic
disaster of my early years, my mate is non existent, and no children,
and no dreams or affinity for either should I find them.
Most sane people WANT to have children, but they also WANT to be
alive.
My second dynamic was sort of like a nuclear war that spread out
and destroyed or poisoned all my other dynamics.
My third dynamic is almost non existent. Having no family, the
groups that are made of families, both my parents group mates, and my
own group mates are non existent with no real hope of ever existing or
being repaired. I lost everything of my family's groups when I was
deported to my foster parents, and THEIR framily group mates were brain
sucking zombie zoners.
I do have some operating group mates on the
work/production/activity parts of life, running Lightlink Internet, and
we are about to put in a 10 million dollar super computer.
But frankly every goal I can think of fills me with inertia.
I do it because I have to in order to not starve to death.
Beyond that human relationships are scarce and far between, like
two survivors lost at sea crossing each other's paths in life rafts that
can hold only one. That's me and Jane, we have floated together for 23
years.
As for the fourth dynamic, mankind is a loose cannon which should
be bolted down or cast overboard. Probably no more dangerous PTS item
in the universe, next to asteroids, plague and tsunamis.
If mankind survives it will not be because a majority of it
deserved to do so, but because a very small minority pulled it through
in spite of itself.
I kind of like to think I am part of that minority, but MAN DO
I HATE IT, because I do not particularlly want to survive myself.
Staying alive seems to be the cheaper route pain wise both
for myself and for those that care about me and depend on me to
be around for them.
If it weren't for them I would off myself immediately.
I have lots of affinity for the 5th dynamic in general, cats, mice,
dogs, horses, plants, etc. It's gory out there and hard to stomach when
you find equal beauty in the eater and the eaten. I also have lots of
affinity for some bodies, but not my body which seems to be retarded,
dumb, blind, stupid and genetically damaged and can't breath.
I have almost no affinity for the physical universe, too big, too
complex, almost impossible to understand even simple things like special
relativity, and the spaces and times involved are so vast they leave
everyone in solitary confinement for the rest of time.
In particular my hatred for the MEST universe is all the more so
that I believe I am MADE of MEST.
That's as high as I go in this life, I have no reality on the
seventh dynamic, for now we are postulating something that exists
outside of machines and space time parts.
They may exist, but I have zero reality on it, and even less
affinity that it should exist and I be SO separated from it.
How the fuck did that happen?
Your stupid meter reading yet?
As for the eighth dynamic, I gave up on God a long time ago as a
fatherly being who cared about me or anyone for that matter.
God the father belongs in jail for child abuse.
As for anything else that might come under the notion of supreme
creator or infinity, its all 100 percent unreal to me. I can think
ANALYTICALLY with it, but its not based on any experience that is
lasting or accessible at will.
Most of my writings 'come to me' after sessions, they may sound
good, but they might as well be a birdie chirping in my ear telling me
what to write.
I make a good scribe, that's about it.
So the ARCX with the AllThatIs is clearly spread across the 8
dynamics.
The Communication is enforced, I HAVE to be conscious, the affinity
is negative down around useless, apathy, sorrow and propitiation, and
that's just the social facade.
True sub death tone is probably can't hide.
My agreement with the AllThatIs is negative, totally opposed, next
time it wants to crucify someone, let is choose someone other than me
thank you.
My communication with the AllTHatIs is completely blocked,
recognition, perception, communication, orientation are all completely
zero.
Understandings seem to be all over the place, but none of them do
me any good, so I will trust they are all bogus.
Enlightment is non existent.
Body is a total walking disaster area, can't breath, can't sleep,
can't work, can't find reason to move. A long ways from 'Breathing is
sufficient reason to be.'
Energy is empty, or negative turned against me.
Higher than that, production, prediction, activity are all
substitute goal nerve crushers, that I do for others, sacrifice in case
some day there turns out to be any intelligent life on Earth or
anywhere.
I am not glad I exist, I am not happy to be, and I do not enjoy my
time, life is not worthwhile.
Although I am not truely suicidal, it get that way sometimes when I
am fumed and can't breath at all, but I do spend 10 percent of my time
considering how, if and why to suicide or kamikaze.
Thinking about kamikaze tends to make the suicidal thoughts
go away :)
Everything else in my life is a waste, I ain't going to waste my
death.
I am told I have post partum depression, I have been depressed ever
since I was a baby.
Homer
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I have very good reality on my first dynamic, but I do not
appreciate myself, always up to my nose in water and I can't breath
through my nose.
My second dynamic is a disaster, hated my parents both of whom
bombed out early leaving me with foster parents who were zombie zoners,
I mean just no one home at all, whom I hated more, and disconnected from
at first chance.
Never knew my grand parents, and could care less about the
Tennessee swamp dwelling sub protoplasm that calls itself relatives on
my mother's side. No clue about my father's side.
Since I debonded with most of life during the second dynamic
disaster of my early years, my mate is non existent, and no children,
and no dreams or affinity for either should I find them.
Most sane people WANT to have children, but they also WANT to be
alive.
My second dynamic was sort of like a nuclear war that spread out
and destroyed or poisoned all my other dynamics.
My third dynamic is almost non existent. Having no family, the
groups that are made of families, both my parents group mates, and my
own group mates are non existent with no real hope of ever existing or
being repaired. I lost everything of my family's groups when I was
deported to my foster parents, and THEIR framily group mates were brain
sucking zombie zoners.
I do have some operating group mates on the
work/production/activity parts of life, running Lightlink Internet, and
we are about to put in a 10 million dollar super computer.
But frankly every goal I can think of fills me with inertia.
I do it because I have to in order to not starve to death.
Beyond that human relationships are scarce and far between, like
two survivors lost at sea crossing each other's paths in life rafts that
can hold only one. That's me and Jane, we have floated together for 23
years.
As for the fourth dynamic, mankind is a loose cannon which should
be bolted down or cast overboard. Probably no more dangerous PTS item
in the universe, next to asteroids, plague and tsunamis.
If mankind survives it will not be because a majority of it
deserved to do so, but because a very small minority pulled it through
in spite of itself.
I kind of like to think I am part of that minority, but MAN DO
I HATE IT, because I do not particularlly want to survive myself.
Staying alive seems to be the cheaper route pain wise both
for myself and for those that care about me and depend on me to
be around for them.
If it weren't for them I would off myself immediately.
I have lots of affinity for the 5th dynamic in general, cats, mice,
dogs, horses, plants, etc. It's gory out there and hard to stomach when
you find equal beauty in the eater and the eaten. I also have lots of
affinity for some bodies, but not my body which seems to be retarded,
dumb, blind, stupid and genetically damaged and can't breath.
I have almost no affinity for the physical universe, too big, too
complex, almost impossible to understand even simple things like special
relativity, and the spaces and times involved are so vast they leave
everyone in solitary confinement for the rest of time.
In particular my hatred for the MEST universe is all the more so
that I believe I am MADE of MEST.
That's as high as I go in this life, I have no reality on the
seventh dynamic, for now we are postulating something that exists
outside of machines and space time parts.
They may exist, but I have zero reality on it, and even less
affinity that it should exist and I be SO separated from it.
How the fuck did that happen?
Your stupid meter reading yet?
As for the eighth dynamic, I gave up on God a long time ago as a
fatherly being who cared about me or anyone for that matter.
God the father belongs in jail for child abuse.
As for anything else that might come under the notion of supreme
creator or infinity, its all 100 percent unreal to me. I can think
ANALYTICALLY with it, but its not based on any experience that is
lasting or accessible at will.
Most of my writings 'come to me' after sessions, they may sound
good, but they might as well be a birdie chirping in my ear telling me
what to write.
I make a good scribe, that's about it.
So the ARCX with the AllThatIs is clearly spread across the 8
dynamics.
The Communication is enforced, I HAVE to be conscious, the affinity
is negative down around useless, apathy, sorrow and propitiation, and
that's just the social facade.
True sub death tone is probably can't hide.
My agreement with the AllThatIs is negative, totally opposed, next
time it wants to crucify someone, let is choose someone other than me
thank you.
My communication with the AllTHatIs is completely blocked,
recognition, perception, communication, orientation are all completely
zero.
Understandings seem to be all over the place, but none of them do
me any good, so I will trust they are all bogus.
Enlightment is non existent.
Body is a total walking disaster area, can't breath, can't sleep,
can't work, can't find reason to move. A long ways from 'Breathing is
sufficient reason to be.'
Energy is empty, or negative turned against me.
Higher than that, production, prediction, activity are all
substitute goal nerve crushers, that I do for others, sacrifice in case
some day there turns out to be any intelligent life on Earth or
anywhere.
I am not glad I exist, I am not happy to be, and I do not enjoy my
time, life is not worthwhile.
Although I am not truely suicidal, it get that way sometimes when I
am fumed and can't breath at all, but I do spend 10 percent of my time
considering how, if and why to suicide or kamikaze.
Thinking about kamikaze tends to make the suicidal thoughts
go away :)
Everything else in my life is a waste, I ain't going to waste my
death.
I am told I have post partum depression, I have been depressed ever
since I was a baby.
Homer
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INDOCTRINATION:
Humans for the most part are an ugly group of assholes.
Your peclear is eternally despondent about who or what he is.
Temporal Forevers kill.
Conception is causal.
PROCESS:
Run,
What have you not conceived?
What have you conceived?
What are you not conceiving?
What are you conceiving?
What will you not conceive?
What will you conceive?
Don't conceive something.
Conceive something.
E/P: Understandings,
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Your peclear is eternally despondent about who or what he is.
Temporal Forevers kill.
Conception is causal.
PROCESS:
Run,
What have you not conceived?
What have you conceived?
What are you not conceiving?
What are you conceiving?
What will you not conceive?
What will you conceive?
Don't conceive something.
Conceive something.
E/P: Understandings,
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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