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WITCH MOTHER
You gotta understand something about Adore.
Adore is a baby phase religion that *DETESTS* women, oh just simply
and totally hates them to pieces. There are not enough bad things in
the world to wish off on them.
This is because it grew up with a witch mother. A witch mother is
a female who never matured into an adult but remained a child trying to
relate to the husband as a child, rather than as a peer.
The the child mother was jealous of her own male son, the attention
the father gave him and the abilities the son had that the mother
didn't, and tried her best to destroy the son in a form of deadly
sibling war. Since the mother had the abilities of an adult but the
mind of a brat child, the son soon gave up and went into catatonia and
oblivion to quiet the fury, rage and matricide.
This is all laid out in detail in Transactional Analysis and the
book "I'm OK, You're OK" by Eric Berne et al.
It took many years for Adore to grow up to its present view, which
is NOT a Yin-Yang of complementation between male and female, but a 4
fold encompassment of God, Man, Woman and Child.
By encompanssment Adore is referring to a series of concentric
circles, God being the outer one, man the next one in, woman the next
one, and the child the inner most one.
The circles represent arenas of activities. Because the mother's
circle is bigger than the child's, the mother may 'go' and do things the
child may not.
Just so with the other circles.
This "four circles as a whole" form a 'grade' in Adore, as in 4th
or 5th grade, etc.
The game is for the being to grow up from child, to woman, to man
to God within that grade by mastering the 4 primary characteristics of
each circle.
They are:
1.) Master of total irresponsibility (child)
2.) Master of Defense (woman)
3.) Master of Offense (man)
4.) Master of total responsibility (god)
The child wishes to earn its tits (womanhood).
The woman wishses to earn her balls (manhood).
The man wishes to earn his wings (godhood).
The god wishes to earn his childhood at the next grade up.
Although they are called man and woman, they don't really refer to
bodies or sexes, but Adore does consider that if a being is in a woman
phase for their major life goals in any particular life, they will do
better in a female body. Likewise for male phase beings having a male
body to do the job.
The game of 'growing up' through a particular grade may take more
than one life time and thus more than one body.
Since there are only two body types, and 4 levels of attainment in
each grade, one needs to make do as well as they can with the body they
have chosen.
One will find child, women, man and god phase beings in bodies
of either physical sex.
Thus body sex is not a good indication of grade level nor of level
within each grade. Body sex in fact tends to obscure the various grades
and the levels within, and creates a major hinderance to moving up the
levels and then grades due to social prejudices and body limitations.
Once a grade is completed, the being moves up to the next grade and
starts all over again as a child in that grade.
Most beings are apparently on a dwindling spiral, they are falling
down grades rather than climbing.
Mortality is a very low state of decay, probably sub kindergarten
in earth language. Something like a prison for delinquents who have
turned away from their fear of hell forever and refused to acknowledge
the eternal light and its beauty.
It's not hopeless for them, but at some point those in a low grade
are no longer able or willing to help those in the same grade advance,
and in fact work ceasely to maintain their own ascendancy in the low
grade by pushing others lower and keeping them there, eventually to fall
out to an even lower grade.
Thus it may remain to those in higher grades to keep an eye on the
lower grades and put discipline and ethics in on them.
Only those in very low grades have any problem with any of the
above, whether it is true, useful or not.
The more it rings a bell, the more they scream.
Adore presently considers itself in the woman phase of its
existence, and is very happy being a woman taking care of her child,
looking for a man worthy of her efforts, to care for her while she cares
for the child.
But all the men she runs into, are either in a lower grade than she
is, pretending that all men are 'better' than all women, and that women
are property of men, or men who have ceased seeking their wings and have
turned against personal God hood in any arena of life whatsoever.
(Men are better than all women in their own or lower grade.
Women are better than all men in a lower grade.)
The meanwhile her child phase *SON* is missing a role model, as
women phase beings can not be role models to male phase beings in the
areas that the male phase being needs to grow to earn his wings.
As a woman phase religion, Adore also tires to the point of
desperation of women who think women need a man like a fish needs a
bicycle, and Adore can only shudder at why such women would ever want a
male son, to bring him up as what?
"Women think of men as genetically inferior women.
Men think of women as children." - Adore
All evidence to the contrary, these are very *VERY* low grade views,
heading lower.
Homer
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jacksonmoore69@hotmail.com wrote:
>If they think you are too different at the slightest thing, then they
>too fixed as a person.
Way understated. Try FIXIDITY on the ACC scale, just above
erosion, dissassociation, criminality, uncausing, disconnection and
unexistence.
You are talking about filth on its way out.
>HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE AN IDEAL THERAPY SESSION??
>DO YOU EVALUATE THE PERSON? DO YOU 'LEAD'THE RPSERON IN A DIRECTION
>ACCORDING TO YOUR BIAS? I MEAN WHAT DO YOU DO?
First we determine the person's intent.
They are already sitting in the chair for some purpose.
What is that purpose?
Is it to get better at staying worse, more able to operate their
service facs and make SP's wrong, gain sympathy etc, or is it to get
free, truely free?
Then how do you define free, never come back ever again to this
place? Or any place? How much total elsewhereness is in their
concept of 'better'? Do they want to get out to a place that would
never come in again?
Get them to define seriousness and humor until they get it.
Once they are oriented to 'optimized game playing', with
awareness of fair choice in their presence in all past, present and
future games, then we can start hunting around for non opimized games.
"How do you feel about your future?"
Desire and view (view = postulate mess).
Direction of auditing is to find inactalities, disasters, god
postulates, and then get them to change mind.
It should be pretty simple from there on out.
As usual impossibility, incredibility, preposterousness, no
permission, and shame guard the gates of freedom.
The pc can't rise any higher than his auditor, so at some point
he needs to start soloing.
Homer
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jacksonmoore69@hotmail.com wrote:
>If they think you are too different at the slightest thing, then they
>too fixed as a person.
Way understated. Try FIXIDITY on the ACC scale, just above
erosion, dissassociation, criminality, uncausing, disconnection and
unexistence.
You are talking about filth on its way out.
>HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE AN IDEAL THERAPY SESSION??
>DO YOU EVALUATE THE PERSON? DO YOU 'LEAD'THE RPSERON IN A DIRECTION
>ACCORDING TO YOUR BIAS? I MEAN WHAT DO YOU DO?
First we determine the person's intent.
They are already sitting in the chair for some purpose.
What is that purpose?
Is it to get better at staying worse, more able to operate their
service facs and make SP's wrong, gain sympathy etc, or is it to get
free, truely free?
Then how do you define free, never come back ever again to this
place? Or any place? How much total elsewhereness is in their
concept of 'better'? Do they want to get out to a place that would
never come in again?
Get them to define seriousness and humor until they get it.
Once they are oriented to 'optimized game playing', with
awareness of fair choice in their presence in all past, present and
future games, then we can start hunting around for non opimized games.
"How do you feel about your future?"
Desire and view (view = postulate mess).
Direction of auditing is to find inactalities, disasters, god
postulates, and then get them to change mind.
It should be pretty simple from there on out.
As usual impossibility, incredibility, preposterousness, no
permission, and shame guard the gates of freedom.
The pc can't rise any higher than his auditor, so at some point
he needs to start soloing.
Homer
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Rogers. D.Scn. (The_Bindu@NOSPAMmsn.com) wrote:
>"Homer Wilson Smith" <homer@lightlink.com> wrote in message
>> Ron says many times that the mest universe is merely a mockup,
>> no different than any other mockup the thetan can make.
>He was only partly right. It was a valid partial observation. Or, put it
>another way, a valid intimation of the capability of Theta.
>But, the mest universe has no single source and thus cannot be considered
>(in any singular sense) "a mockup."
Each being has and lives in his own copy of the MEST universe.
The various copies of everyone "in" the MEST universe interact
via *INTERNAL* resonance between beings conduited through Source.
That is what Source does, it allows two beings to resonate the
same dream, to dream together.
The MEST universe exists only as the separate individual dreams
of a zillion beings, dreaming in unison, common in theme due only to
that fair chosen resonance. Each being has his own complete copy.
If you make a mockup, and I make a similar mockup they will lock
on to each other and become 'one'. The oneness is an illusion, they
remain two mockups, but act as one.
Cool eh?
The oneness of the MEST universe is an apparency among many.
"An infinite number of infinite minds was beyond the ken of
modern day philosophers" - LRH
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Rogers. D.Scn. (The_Bindu@NOSPAMmsn.com) wrote:
>"Homer Wilson Smith" <homer@lightlink.com> wrote in message
>> Ron says many times that the mest universe is merely a mockup,
>> no different than any other mockup the thetan can make.
>He was only partly right. It was a valid partial observation. Or, put it
>another way, a valid intimation of the capability of Theta.
>But, the mest universe has no single source and thus cannot be considered
>(in any singular sense) "a mockup."
Each being has and lives in his own copy of the MEST universe.
The various copies of everyone "in" the MEST universe interact
via *INTERNAL* resonance between beings conduited through Source.
That is what Source does, it allows two beings to resonate the
same dream, to dream together.
The MEST universe exists only as the separate individual dreams
of a zillion beings, dreaming in unison, common in theme due only to
that fair chosen resonance. Each being has his own complete copy.
If you make a mockup, and I make a similar mockup they will lock
on to each other and become 'one'. The oneness is an illusion, they
remain two mockups, but act as one.
Cool eh?
The oneness of the MEST universe is an apparency among many.
"An infinite number of infinite minds was beyond the ken of
modern day philosophers" - LRH
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WHY AUDIT A DREAM?
Ted Mayett <ars.to.tedmayett@xxmmxxspamgourmet.com> wrote:
> And my "avatars" in those dreams can do
> horrible nasty things. And those avatars are most certainly not in
> need of repair auditing because of overts committed.
That's because your dream avatars believe they are alone, that
others are mere hallucinations, no real concscious unit behind the
others in your dreams.
If you stick a knife into a dream being's body, and she screams in
pain, its all an act on the part of your own overts, no one actually
feels that pain.
Wrong.
Overts in dreams are just as real as overts in the waking state,
except dreams are meant to be limited in time, the waking state is not.
The dream being you slaughtered wakes up too and finds he is still alive
and ok.
Things done to someone in the waking state however are FOREVER.
Or as you point out below, are they?
If they are not forever, then even though we hurt people and are
hurt in return, just like in sleep dreams, then nothing is permanent, in
the end we all make up and make friends.
Thus hurts in this dream must be forgiven as we wish to be
forgiven.
>In fact those
> avatars in my dreams might think they have past lives, but that is
> only an illusion.
That is wrong.
Do you really believe that girl you made love to last night in a
dream wasn't there also?
Ever TALK to your dream beings?
Ever been given a talking to?
Ever gotten good auditing in a dream?
Ever had someone WAY bigger than you come to you in a dream and
tell you to start behaving yourself in your dreams and stop pretending
you are alone?
I mean how many tits can you stick a knife into before you know
well enough what it feels like?
Isn't it better to interview the dream bitch and find out what her
beef is?
I will save you some trouble, I quote "I don't want to be
arosed."
> How do you audit a dream Homer? And why would you audit a dream?
You audit out the conception that it is FOREVER.
It is only the forevers (in time) that cause problems.
Seriousness, importance, PERMANENCE and pain.
The only things that live forever (out side of time) are people and
peace.
Everything else is only for a while.
Seriousness keeps the game glued together by fear and hate for
forever losses.
Unwilling, infact unable, to ever be friends again.
That will be $10, bill is in the mail.
I got a new business model, I will be auditing this for money,
gold, guns, ammunition or lawyer parts, the E/P is the person will walk
away knowing exactly to the day how long they will being spending in
hell when they die.
For a little bit more, I will show them how to help themselves
lessen their term while still alive.
Results fully guaranteed or your money back.
Still working on the Devil, er I mean the details.
Homer
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Ted Mayett <ars.to.tedmayett@xxmmxxspamgourmet.com> wrote:
> And my "avatars" in those dreams can do
> horrible nasty things. And those avatars are most certainly not in
> need of repair auditing because of overts committed.
That's because your dream avatars believe they are alone, that
others are mere hallucinations, no real concscious unit behind the
others in your dreams.
If you stick a knife into a dream being's body, and she screams in
pain, its all an act on the part of your own overts, no one actually
feels that pain.
Wrong.
Overts in dreams are just as real as overts in the waking state,
except dreams are meant to be limited in time, the waking state is not.
The dream being you slaughtered wakes up too and finds he is still alive
and ok.
Things done to someone in the waking state however are FOREVER.
Or as you point out below, are they?
If they are not forever, then even though we hurt people and are
hurt in return, just like in sleep dreams, then nothing is permanent, in
the end we all make up and make friends.
Thus hurts in this dream must be forgiven as we wish to be
forgiven.
>In fact those
> avatars in my dreams might think they have past lives, but that is
> only an illusion.
That is wrong.
Do you really believe that girl you made love to last night in a
dream wasn't there also?
Ever TALK to your dream beings?
Ever been given a talking to?
Ever gotten good auditing in a dream?
Ever had someone WAY bigger than you come to you in a dream and
tell you to start behaving yourself in your dreams and stop pretending
you are alone?
I mean how many tits can you stick a knife into before you know
well enough what it feels like?
Isn't it better to interview the dream bitch and find out what her
beef is?
I will save you some trouble, I quote "I don't want to be
arosed."
> How do you audit a dream Homer? And why would you audit a dream?
You audit out the conception that it is FOREVER.
It is only the forevers (in time) that cause problems.
Seriousness, importance, PERMANENCE and pain.
The only things that live forever (out side of time) are people and
peace.
Everything else is only for a while.
Seriousness keeps the game glued together by fear and hate for
forever losses.
Unwilling, infact unable, to ever be friends again.
That will be $10, bill is in the mail.
I got a new business model, I will be auditing this for money,
gold, guns, ammunition or lawyer parts, the E/P is the person will walk
away knowing exactly to the day how long they will being spending in
hell when they die.
For a little bit more, I will show them how to help themselves
lessen their term while still alive.
Results fully guaranteed or your money back.
Still working on the Devil, er I mean the details.
Homer
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"All certainties can be wrong."
"Is that certain?"
"Yes."
"Can that statement be wrong?"
"Yes."
"Are you perfectly certain of it then?"
"Yes."
When a person says "I am certain I am right but I could always be
wrong." they are issuing self contradictory statements and thus have
said nothing. It is no longer possible to know what they are talking
about.
The Bible says that we shall be judged by every word that comes
out of the mouth of man.
"I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they
shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words
thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
So the good Lord takes Logic is King very seriously.
God didn't give Eve a mind so she could make Adam wrong with it.
Men learn logic from their mothers. If men then use female logic
against women again, that is justice coming full circle.
The claim to certainty for things that are not certain and in
fact CERTAINLY CAN NOT BE CERTAIN is a high crime against knowledge.
Defining out of existence entire areas of knowledge by defining
down the meanings of words so that they no longer can encompass
everything there is to encompass is also a high crime.
This is done routinely with the words 'responsibility' and
'certainty'
Responsibility means 'knowing willing cause with full awareness
of the consequences."
Certainty means "can't be wrong, if it turns out you were wrong,
then you weren't certain and could have known you weren't certain before
you found out you were wrong."
People who have never experienced a perfect certainty THAT CAN
NOT BE WRONG, will continue to call uncertainties certainty and
continue to engage in high crimes against God, the great I AM.
I AM means NOT I AM NOT.
You think God will argue that logic is illogical?
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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"All certainties can be wrong."
"Is that certain?"
"Yes."
"Can that statement be wrong?"
"Yes."
"Are you perfectly certain of it then?"
"Yes."
When a person says "I am certain I am right but I could always be
wrong." they are issuing self contradictory statements and thus have
said nothing. It is no longer possible to know what they are talking
about.
The Bible says that we shall be judged by every word that comes
out of the mouth of man.
"I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they
shall give account thereof in the day of judgement. For by thy words
thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
So the good Lord takes Logic is King very seriously.
God didn't give Eve a mind so she could make Adam wrong with it.
Men learn logic from their mothers. If men then use female logic
against women again, that is justice coming full circle.
The claim to certainty for things that are not certain and in
fact CERTAINLY CAN NOT BE CERTAIN is a high crime against knowledge.
Defining out of existence entire areas of knowledge by defining
down the meanings of words so that they no longer can encompass
everything there is to encompass is also a high crime.
This is done routinely with the words 'responsibility' and
'certainty'
Responsibility means 'knowing willing cause with full awareness
of the consequences."
Certainty means "can't be wrong, if it turns out you were wrong,
then you weren't certain and could have known you weren't certain before
you found out you were wrong."
People who have never experienced a perfect certainty THAT CAN
NOT BE WRONG, will continue to call uncertainties certainty and
continue to engage in high crimes against God, the great I AM.
I AM means NOT I AM NOT.
You think God will argue that logic is illogical?
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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BODY AND CARS
The body is a car.
Usually the being first enters the car after it is built and he
buys it.
But imagine a world where cars are scarce and people buy and pay
for their cars before they are built.
Ownership of the car takes place before it even exists.
Now image a world where thuggery and fraud and use of criminal
force is so rampant that merely owning a car before it is built is no
guarantee you will actually get the car after it is built.
So then people start to occupy their car when the first part of
its A frame is created, never to leave it.
Sometimes more than one person will manage to get into the car
and they not only fight off everone else but also each other from
there on out.
They arm themselves to the teeth against anyone who might want to
take the car from them, and they barricade themselves in while the car
is built around them so no one can pull them out, to the point where
they couldn't get out themselves anymore if they wanted to.
Exactly zero desire to get out no matter what, you see?
Often the guy who paid for the car, isn't the one who wins the
fight and gets the car. And no he doens't get his money back. So
pretty soon people are just TAKING cars, often the first one they see,
but in the fight, to the strongest go the spoils.
At the end of the car's useful life, people go to the salvage yards
still in their car, right through the compressor and into the smelter.
Only once there is liquid metal running are they able to get out again
to go buy a new car.
Or they already bought the new car before they leave the old car,
they just can't go defend it until they are free of the present one.
They pay others to defend it for them, but the thugs often get the car
in the end anyway. Sometimes the defenders ARE the thugs, so it's rough
out there getting the car of your choice.
That's pretty much how it is on Earth at this time with respect to
bodies.
We know what the attraction of cars is,
But what is the attraction of bodies?
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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BODY AND CARS
The body is a car.
Usually the being first enters the car after it is built and he
buys it.
But imagine a world where cars are scarce and people buy and pay
for their cars before they are built.
Ownership of the car takes place before it even exists.
Now image a world where thuggery and fraud and use of criminal
force is so rampant that merely owning a car before it is built is no
guarantee you will actually get the car after it is built.
So then people start to occupy their car when the first part of
its A frame is created, never to leave it.
Sometimes more than one person will manage to get into the car
and they not only fight off everone else but also each other from
there on out.
They arm themselves to the teeth against anyone who might want to
take the car from them, and they barricade themselves in while the car
is built around them so no one can pull them out, to the point where
they couldn't get out themselves anymore if they wanted to.
Exactly zero desire to get out no matter what, you see?
Often the guy who paid for the car, isn't the one who wins the
fight and gets the car. And no he doens't get his money back. So
pretty soon people are just TAKING cars, often the first one they see,
but in the fight, to the strongest go the spoils.
At the end of the car's useful life, people go to the salvage yards
still in their car, right through the compressor and into the smelter.
Only once there is liquid metal running are they able to get out again
to go buy a new car.
Or they already bought the new car before they leave the old car,
they just can't go defend it until they are free of the present one.
They pay others to defend it for them, but the thugs often get the car
in the end anyway. Sometimes the defenders ARE the thugs, so it's rough
out there getting the car of your choice.
That's pretty much how it is on Earth at this time with respect to
bodies.
We know what the attraction of cars is,
But what is the attraction of bodies?
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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TO CHUCK BEATTY
Chuck Beatty,
A grown man might seem like an OT to an ant, but a man can't stand
up to a swarm of 100,000 ants. Ant swarms are some of the most feared
animals in the forest.
(OT means Operating Thetan, a scientology term referring to a being
able to operating at partial or full spiritual capacity.)
In the same way no present time OT can stand up to a swarm of
humans interested in him.
Either OT powers exist or they don't. Either you have been out of
your body or your haven't. I mean come on, how shallow does shallow come?
Its not like Joe Blow has OT powers and you don't. If OT powers
exist, then people don't 'have' them because they don't want them, as
they had OT powers at one time, and then used their OT powers to not
have OT powers.
All an OT power is, is you get what you postulate.
The postulate that postulates don't work, works.
That is the magic of no magic.
If OT powers exist, then clearly you are a god of sorts, and if you
are a god then clearly you are repsonsibile for your own condition
whatever it may be. Thus if you feel you are not a god now, you must
have chosen to not be a god when you were a god. Duplicating and
retracting the intention to not be a god would in theory remove the
limitations you imposed on yourself.
Anyhow if Joe Blow were to demonstrate that he had some serious OT
power to you or anyone, particularly an ability that could be used as a
weapon of war, it would be very dangerous to Joe and his family and
friends, all kinds of people would have the tentacles of their attention
on him for many different purposes, just as you have your tentacles of
attention on people for demonstration of proof.
But if such proof were forth coming, you and anyone else unreal on
the subject would go into a dream state, and start to doubt your own
sanity, and become afraid of the one who had the powers for fear of what
they might do to you should they one day come to dislike you.
You might think that someone who had the powers would be able to
help you get your powers back, that might or might not be true,
depending on how obstinate your desire to not have them is. What people
fear is that your initial desire to get help having OT powers would soon
turn into trying to make sure others don't have them either because you
can't confront your unwillingness to have them yourself.
Unwillingness is the only reason we don't have these powers.
Thus your whining about how you need someone else to prove OT
powers exist to you is a bit degraded beyond words not to mention
possibly disingenuous.
The only proof that you will ever find, that you will actually
believe, will come only from yourself.
Demanding proof of OT powers from others, is not only selfish,
foolish and dangerous to them and yourself, it just can't substitute for
finding those powers within yourself, or hints and rememberances of when
you had them, and why you no longer want them.
Most of the OT powers that people want, they would hate having if
they had them.
A lot of people spend their whole lives hating not having what
they would hate having if they had it.
People think they will be better able to defend the body and its
survival. OT powers used for the defense of the body is a sure way to
get entangled in a human swarm you will never shake off. That is how we
got into the state we are in.
So since I don't have any OT powers and don't want them in this
life, all I can offer is the OT Power Protocol Rundown, which if you
would but spend a hour's worth with it in a co audit, most of your need
for proof would vanish.
(Audit means a session where two people help each other find their
negative postulates and duplicate and retract them.)
You might still have your doubts that Joe who claims to have OT
powers actually has them, but you would probably lose your doubt that OT
powers exist and that you can get them alone.
The OT Power Protocol Rundown is highly confidential, very
dangerous and should only be used by people with a high degree of
spritual awareness and who are able to take full repsonsibility for
their own condition and everyone else's.
Skip the parts on Pride, they don't apply to you.
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi?/homer/adore712.memo
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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TO CHUCK BEATTY
Chuck Beatty,
A grown man might seem like an OT to an ant, but a man can't stand
up to a swarm of 100,000 ants. Ant swarms are some of the most feared
animals in the forest.
(OT means Operating Thetan, a scientology term referring to a being
able to operating at partial or full spiritual capacity.)
In the same way no present time OT can stand up to a swarm of
humans interested in him.
Either OT powers exist or they don't. Either you have been out of
your body or your haven't. I mean come on, how shallow does shallow come?
Its not like Joe Blow has OT powers and you don't. If OT powers
exist, then people don't 'have' them because they don't want them, as
they had OT powers at one time, and then used their OT powers to not
have OT powers.
All an OT power is, is you get what you postulate.
The postulate that postulates don't work, works.
That is the magic of no magic.
If OT powers exist, then clearly you are a god of sorts, and if you
are a god then clearly you are repsonsibile for your own condition
whatever it may be. Thus if you feel you are not a god now, you must
have chosen to not be a god when you were a god. Duplicating and
retracting the intention to not be a god would in theory remove the
limitations you imposed on yourself.
Anyhow if Joe Blow were to demonstrate that he had some serious OT
power to you or anyone, particularly an ability that could be used as a
weapon of war, it would be very dangerous to Joe and his family and
friends, all kinds of people would have the tentacles of their attention
on him for many different purposes, just as you have your tentacles of
attention on people for demonstration of proof.
But if such proof were forth coming, you and anyone else unreal on
the subject would go into a dream state, and start to doubt your own
sanity, and become afraid of the one who had the powers for fear of what
they might do to you should they one day come to dislike you.
You might think that someone who had the powers would be able to
help you get your powers back, that might or might not be true,
depending on how obstinate your desire to not have them is. What people
fear is that your initial desire to get help having OT powers would soon
turn into trying to make sure others don't have them either because you
can't confront your unwillingness to have them yourself.
Unwillingness is the only reason we don't have these powers.
Thus your whining about how you need someone else to prove OT
powers exist to you is a bit degraded beyond words not to mention
possibly disingenuous.
The only proof that you will ever find, that you will actually
believe, will come only from yourself.
Demanding proof of OT powers from others, is not only selfish,
foolish and dangerous to them and yourself, it just can't substitute for
finding those powers within yourself, or hints and rememberances of when
you had them, and why you no longer want them.
Most of the OT powers that people want, they would hate having if
they had them.
A lot of people spend their whole lives hating not having what
they would hate having if they had it.
People think they will be better able to defend the body and its
survival. OT powers used for the defense of the body is a sure way to
get entangled in a human swarm you will never shake off. That is how we
got into the state we are in.
So since I don't have any OT powers and don't want them in this
life, all I can offer is the OT Power Protocol Rundown, which if you
would but spend a hour's worth with it in a co audit, most of your need
for proof would vanish.
(Audit means a session where two people help each other find their
negative postulates and duplicate and retract them.)
You might still have your doubts that Joe who claims to have OT
powers actually has them, but you would probably lose your doubt that OT
powers exist and that you can get them alone.
The OT Power Protocol Rundown is highly confidential, very
dangerous and should only be used by people with a high degree of
spritual awareness and who are able to take full repsonsibility for
their own condition and everyone else's.
Skip the parts on Pride, they don't apply to you.
http://www.clearing.org/cgi/archive.cgi?/homer/adore712.memo
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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