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Zinj (zinjifar@yahoo.com) wrote:
>If there is no MEST beyond our own minds; no causality beyond our own
>perception; then there is no 'suffer', no continue; no xxx trillion
>years; no 'next chance'; no 'comes along'; no 'disembark'.
There are beings who are lost in dreams of MEST.
      Yes there is no MEST in actuality, but there are dreams of MEST, 
virtual MEST, and as such a game of some sort is going on in the virtual 
reality.
      One can suffer quite a bit in the virtual reality, pain is real, as 
pain is consciousness and not MEST.
      Although time may be an illusory part of the virtual reality, one can 
and does spend 'time' in the virtual reality.  To the degree one believes 
the virtual reality to be actual, one's suffering can not help but get 
worse providing a kind of dwindling spiral of experience. The thetan 
itself can never be damaged permanently or get lost, as there is nothing 
to break or anywhere to go.
But the dream and its pain can go on for a very long 'time'.
      It does not take the existence of dimensionality to make things 
actual.
      All we are saying is that existence is a zero dimensional multi 
faceted operating actuality, and that its purpose and mode of operation is 
to project dimensional virtual realities for the edification and pleasure 
of its inhabitants.
"Source sources what Source is not." - Adore
      To the degree that the being mistakes (purposefully) virtual 
realities for actualities, the being will decay into deeper and deeper 
limitation and pain.
The primary message of truth is "I am non dimensional".
The primary message of virtual reality is "I am dimensional".
      If you are dimensional, you can be busted apart and die.  That 
violates the fundamental sovereign desire of the being to live forever. 
That results in a rage and slow burn of the soul that no one can look on 
and bear the pain, the sorrow is oceanic.
      Clearing wakes the being up to the dream, and gets him to spot his 
mistaken considerations concerning virtual realities and actualities at 
which point the persisting suffering that resulted from the mistakes 
ceases to be.
      The nightmare becomes a lucid dream, and the being starts to regain 
his abilities to control his dream and the dreams of others, wake them up 
too.
      He can make spiders laugh at his jokes, and make babes come out of 
the walls.
      Persistence of virtual realities is itself caused by mistaking the 
virtual reality for an actuality, and thus the more a being mistakes 
virtual realities for actuality, the more a being gets stuck in 
persistence, dreamtime and eventually suffering and finally 
unconcsiousness, no longer able to dream.
      A being can be buried and die in a dream that he believes is not a 
dream.
Space/time becomes his mausoleum.
      That is why getting beings back up into lucid dreaming and getting 
them to maintain it is so important.
      Of course they choose to lose that lucidity, mostly out of the thrill 
of getting lost, but we are here by their choice too to help them regain 
it and find their way 'home' should it be their time.
      "Thrill is always the effort to get lost.
       Romance is always the effort to get home.
       Halcyon (humor) is bemused relief on the verge..." -Adore
       "Eternal Home is Home, Lost is Time.
        Eternal Home is Cool, Lost is Kind." - Adore.
      That last line means that if you are going to get lost, you better 
keep your kindness (humor) about you, if you ever want to find your way 
home again.
Homer
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