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EARLY CLEARS
In alt.clearing.technology Richard Ford <doorman.ford@googlemail.com> wrote:
>LRH describes the wonderful world of the clear in great depth AND THEN
>ADMITS THAT THE FIRST CLEAR IS YET TO BE CREATED.
Having just read Dianetics again from cover to cover very
carefully, and for the 4th time or so, I would like to see the page and
line where he admits the first clear is yet to be created.
However later, as things progressed, his definitions of clear
changed upwardly many times, each time invalidating the levels of clear
defined earlier.
I personally have known quite a number of people who claimed to be
clear by one of many different definitions, but none of whom really had
control over their time track.
Even now, looking at the E/P's for higher states, more than one
says 'ability to confront the whole track', including those beyond OT
VIII. Uh, excuse me, just when exactly do I get the ability to confront
the whole track. Well its a gradient scale unfortunately, you get up to
where you can confront a whole section of this spiral, and suddenly find
a MUCH BIGGER spiral that just knocks you flatter than a bug.
I do believe in 1945 - 1951 that Hubbard was working on
dianetically 'easy' cases, those that could be cleared by HIS
application of book one dianetics, and both he (later) and I admit that
following book one by itself will work wonders on many people, but in no
way will it proceed to clear every one for many reasons, the least of
which is not the failure to run flow 2, overts.
People can only run so much whats been done to them, before they
barf.
If a guy has too many overts, he will start to collect motivators
(dones to him).
If the guy has too many motivators, he will start to commit overts.
The reactive effort is to keep the damage received and damage
delivered in life in balance.
Thus if someone comes in with the normal baggage of overts and
motivators and you erase all the motivators, but never touch the overts,
he will start to pull in MORE motivators and hard.
On the other hand if you run out only overts, as Hubbard himself
started doing in the 60's, then guy is left with too many motivators
unrun, and he will start to commit overts like crazy, faster than you
can run them out.
Since ridges always have two sides, and ridges are all that's
wrong with the bloke, you need to run both sides of the ridge,
overt AND motivator in order to blow it.
Getting the time order is critical in each incident.
Because a lot of preclears tended to hide behind their
motivators, and audit them endlessly, which of course pulled
in more motivators, Hubbard ordered that only overts could
be audited, as to even let a preclear claim something had
been done to him was itself an overt.
This is in fact true, but in real auditing, with real people,
who have no reality on the enormity of their own responsibility for
things, this is unworkable.
The preclear is HIDING in his motivators from his overts and
from committing any more, so you ask him 'what have you done'
and he will say 'I don't know, you tell me.'
You can persist, but any preclear can out persist any auditor
bar none.
Homer
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Monday, July 8, 2013
Vitalism
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6:45pm
Stephen Smith
Remember the dogs on state street?
Hi Holmer, I found the following quote: As physiology came to
be understood more and more in terms of physical mechanisms,
vitalistic explanations for the functioning of the body were
refuted one by one. The last holdout for vitalism was the
kidney, but it fell into total disrepute after the elegant
experiments of Homer Smith in the 1930s demonstrated clearly
the filtration and secretory mechanisms of that organ.
It came from this
website:Â http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Vitalism
But I am thinking that these attacks on vitalism are
misplaced, and brought to us by "meat heads." Did your father
(quoted above) understand this conflict as well as yourself?
The fallacy of excluded middle must be in place here, is my
quess. My view is that the vital is supported by the physical,
rather than being defined by the physical. The vital gave
birth the volition, emotion, and spirit, all of which are
self-evident and all have transcended the kidney function that
they depend on. A trinitarian logic gets beyond the fallacy of
excluded middle, where vitalism is discovered again.
Vitalism: Facts, Discussion Forum, and Encyclopedia Article
www.absoluteastronomy.com
Today
11:13pm
Homer Wilson Smith
Read the very last chapter of "Man and His Gods", it may be on
line.
My father's idea of God had been poisoned by Christianity and
the other inanities of Earth to a point where he had little
patience for it rightly so. God is not a God of BEHAVIOR, God
is a God of CREATION.
Occam's Razor says take the simplest theory to your bean
counters, as the simplest theory that explains all the facts
is the one you should spend money on. But who has all the
facts? That vitalism, or God or Spirit, or consciousness is
not necessary to explain the extant observable facts of the
time, hardly proves they do not exist, and my father knew it,
he merely found little reason to complicate things by bringing
God or Spirit into it. Does a watch need a spirit to run it?
Does a brain? To him they were both machines, and machines are
mathematical mass and force in motion contraptions that have
no need for PAIN SHAME PLEASURE LOVE etc. Notice that a car is
a mechanical contraption also, but its DRIVER is a spirit. Now
we know that love and pain can not of force and mass be made.
So they missed that one. Recent results about the nature of
consciousness rather conclusively puts to rest the idea that
consciousness is a process in machinery, space time gizmos, of
any complexity. This is athttp://www.lightlink.com/theproof. A
machine can not be certain of itself, space or time because a
machine learns by being an effect of distant causes, no matter
how close, and the relationship between effect and cause is
one of THEORY, not PERFECT CERTAINTY. No part of any machine
can be perfectly certain of any other part! But consciousness
is self aware, worse it is self aware of how it is NOW, not
how it WAS a nano second ago, which is the best a machine can
do about learning about its own self. And its still a theory
about a nano ago! This is easy to prove, if there is time
between the cause and the effect, then the cause is GONE by
the time the effect is created, and thus the effect can never
bea direct perception of the cause as it IS NOW, but only a
symbolic messenger of how the cause might have been when the
effect was generated. Thus the effect can never see the cause
period. Time between causes blindness and only conjecture to
remain. Consciousness however can SEE itself SEEING, and thus
this must be an instantaneous process in the now, where the
being is not learning about itself by looking at a later
effect but by looking directly at the cause itself in the NOW.
Space time gizmo physics can not wrap its wits around that one
at all, as all physics understands is space time processes,
but consciousness is a spaceless timeless 'process' where
learning about cause is gleaned by directly looking at cause
and not at some alleged effect a while in time later. The time
between cause and effect in the PU demands that the learning
about the cause via the effect is dated learning out of the
gate. Anyhow one out of the body experience that is verifiable
and all of physics gets thrown out. THERE IS NO WAY THEY WILL
EVERY EXPLAIN AWAY CONSCIOUSNESS WITH THE 4 FUNDAMENTAL FORCES
OF NATURE, no matter how unified they get it. That's because
perfect certainy and love and shame can not of force and mass
be made. They may explain the physical projection and thus
reduce everyone to a space time gizmo, but never the
consciousness experiencing itself with perfect certainty. The
unified science of the all that is then is saved in this way:
The physical universe does not exist at all, its a rendition
in the dreaming mind of consciousness. Consciousness is co
eternal with all other consciousness units and lives above
space and time as the static co-dreaming the kinetic. The
static is a MULTI BEING, and each being incarnates as it
wishes in a dreamtime body called an avatar. It can be a quark
or a star or a molecule or a human body. Thus the PU is a
hallucination pure and simple, correct down to the last quark,
but none the less a co shared virtual reality. Consciousness
is not virtual, it is actual, as is the I-AM being that has
that consciousness, and consciousness is not a process in a
virtual reality! So no, my father did not have that
understanding, that would have been like expecting a dreamer
to know he was dreaming. He like Newton and the rest of the
meatballs thought that space and time are actual, just as most
dreamers don't know they are dreaming, but he mentions 'what
is this thing we call consciousness?' in that last chapter of
Man and His Gods, leaving it I suppose to another life which
he didn't know for sure he would have, and frankly probably
thought he didn't have and after 10 years with my mother,
probably didn't want. Most meatballs have a sense that
conscioussness is 'different' or special, but as far as I know
they have NEVER put their finger on just what it is that makes
consciousness special. What can consciousness do that a
machine can't? PERFECT CERTAINTY OF ITSELF AND ITS EXPERIENCES
IN THE NOW. Since I am the only one saying that in present
time and have no footnotes or references to support it, I
shall be considered a crack pot until such time a that
changes. :)
The Proof
www.lightlink.com
Learning Certainty and Causality in Consciousness
11:14pm
Homer Wilson Smith
And with all that said, the angels and the aliens have been
tinkering with the genetic strains and the kidney for a long
time to make it evolve properly
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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6:45pm
Stephen Smith
Remember the dogs on state street?
Hi Holmer, I found the following quote: As physiology came to
be understood more and more in terms of physical mechanisms,
vitalistic explanations for the functioning of the body were
refuted one by one. The last holdout for vitalism was the
kidney, but it fell into total disrepute after the elegant
experiments of Homer Smith in the 1930s demonstrated clearly
the filtration and secretory mechanisms of that organ.
It came from this
website:Â http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Vitalism
But I am thinking that these attacks on vitalism are
misplaced, and brought to us by "meat heads." Did your father
(quoted above) understand this conflict as well as yourself?
The fallacy of excluded middle must be in place here, is my
quess. My view is that the vital is supported by the physical,
rather than being defined by the physical. The vital gave
birth the volition, emotion, and spirit, all of which are
self-evident and all have transcended the kidney function that
they depend on. A trinitarian logic gets beyond the fallacy of
excluded middle, where vitalism is discovered again.
Vitalism: Facts, Discussion Forum, and Encyclopedia Article
www.absoluteastronomy.com
Today
11:13pm
Homer Wilson Smith
Read the very last chapter of "Man and His Gods", it may be on
line.
My father's idea of God had been poisoned by Christianity and
the other inanities of Earth to a point where he had little
patience for it rightly so. God is not a God of BEHAVIOR, God
is a God of CREATION.
Occam's Razor says take the simplest theory to your bean
counters, as the simplest theory that explains all the facts
is the one you should spend money on. But who has all the
facts? That vitalism, or God or Spirit, or consciousness is
not necessary to explain the extant observable facts of the
time, hardly proves they do not exist, and my father knew it,
he merely found little reason to complicate things by bringing
God or Spirit into it. Does a watch need a spirit to run it?
Does a brain? To him they were both machines, and machines are
mathematical mass and force in motion contraptions that have
no need for PAIN SHAME PLEASURE LOVE etc. Notice that a car is
a mechanical contraption also, but its DRIVER is a spirit. Now
we know that love and pain can not of force and mass be made.
So they missed that one. Recent results about the nature of
consciousness rather conclusively puts to rest the idea that
consciousness is a process in machinery, space time gizmos, of
any complexity. This is athttp://www.lightlink.com/theproof. A
machine can not be certain of itself, space or time because a
machine learns by being an effect of distant causes, no matter
how close, and the relationship between effect and cause is
one of THEORY, not PERFECT CERTAINTY. No part of any machine
can be perfectly certain of any other part! But consciousness
is self aware, worse it is self aware of how it is NOW, not
how it WAS a nano second ago, which is the best a machine can
do about learning about its own self. And its still a theory
about a nano ago! This is easy to prove, if there is time
between the cause and the effect, then the cause is GONE by
the time the effect is created, and thus the effect can never
bea direct perception of the cause as it IS NOW, but only a
symbolic messenger of how the cause might have been when the
effect was generated. Thus the effect can never see the cause
period. Time between causes blindness and only conjecture to
remain. Consciousness however can SEE itself SEEING, and thus
this must be an instantaneous process in the now, where the
being is not learning about itself by looking at a later
effect but by looking directly at the cause itself in the NOW.
Space time gizmo physics can not wrap its wits around that one
at all, as all physics understands is space time processes,
but consciousness is a spaceless timeless 'process' where
learning about cause is gleaned by directly looking at cause
and not at some alleged effect a while in time later. The time
between cause and effect in the PU demands that the learning
about the cause via the effect is dated learning out of the
gate. Anyhow one out of the body experience that is verifiable
and all of physics gets thrown out. THERE IS NO WAY THEY WILL
EVERY EXPLAIN AWAY CONSCIOUSNESS WITH THE 4 FUNDAMENTAL FORCES
OF NATURE, no matter how unified they get it. That's because
perfect certainy and love and shame can not of force and mass
be made. They may explain the physical projection and thus
reduce everyone to a space time gizmo, but never the
consciousness experiencing itself with perfect certainty. The
unified science of the all that is then is saved in this way:
The physical universe does not exist at all, its a rendition
in the dreaming mind of consciousness. Consciousness is co
eternal with all other consciousness units and lives above
space and time as the static co-dreaming the kinetic. The
static is a MULTI BEING, and each being incarnates as it
wishes in a dreamtime body called an avatar. It can be a quark
or a star or a molecule or a human body. Thus the PU is a
hallucination pure and simple, correct down to the last quark,
but none the less a co shared virtual reality. Consciousness
is not virtual, it is actual, as is the I-AM being that has
that consciousness, and consciousness is not a process in a
virtual reality! So no, my father did not have that
understanding, that would have been like expecting a dreamer
to know he was dreaming. He like Newton and the rest of the
meatballs thought that space and time are actual, just as most
dreamers don't know they are dreaming, but he mentions 'what
is this thing we call consciousness?' in that last chapter of
Man and His Gods, leaving it I suppose to another life which
he didn't know for sure he would have, and frankly probably
thought he didn't have and after 10 years with my mother,
probably didn't want. Most meatballs have a sense that
conscioussness is 'different' or special, but as far as I know
they have NEVER put their finger on just what it is that makes
consciousness special. What can consciousness do that a
machine can't? PERFECT CERTAINTY OF ITSELF AND ITS EXPERIENCES
IN THE NOW. Since I am the only one saying that in present
time and have no footnotes or references to support it, I
shall be considered a crack pot until such time a that
changes. :)
The Proof
www.lightlink.com
Learning Certainty and Causality in Consciousness
11:14pm
Homer Wilson Smith
And with all that said, the angels and the aliens have been
tinkering with the genetic strains and the kidney for a long
time to make it evolve properly
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Posted: Mon Jul 8 13:06:46 EDT 2013
ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/homer/vitalism
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ADORE793
MASTERPIECE PLANE
(This is about the below posting, read it first or this one won't
make any sense.)
I would say you missed the beauty to the incident and still are,
thus it remains only partially run out and lingers as a lesson, as a
rue, don't want that to happen again.
How much enjoyment did higher beings get out of seeing your slap
stick comedy you put on for them at your expense?
How much love did it take to do that for them?
What had they done for you in the way of (painful) slap stick that
you appreciated with high appreciation for ludicrous demise?
What is the ultimate intent of the author creating such things?
Random engagement, or is their art?
Is there masterpiece?
It will only erase, as if it never happened, once the masterpiece
plane is contacted and let go on this incident.
What was the lie package that comprised the persistence and
unfolding of the event from the suffering point of view?
How was the lie package AS beautiful as the being who was
suffering, and as the suffering was ugly?
Once the match is made, the balance understood, the conservation of
beauty reaffirmed, the efficiacy of humor reinstated on the throne of
justice, then you will be free to create such again.
Until then there will be suffering and worry (rue) forever.
Homer
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On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Pip wrote:
>>
>>
>> Virtue for the Author is not the same as virtue for the characters.
>>
>
>
> True. I actually remember a frightening example of the author-character
> relationship. First I remembered a terrifying and tragic incident while
> working on a somatic. It was this lifetime but I had completely
> suppressed it - I had not a clue. In resolving this incident I began
> to have flashbacks of earlier moments that led up to this event. In one
> of those moments I was in a higher state of consciousness and was
> devising the way things would unfold; actually setting it all up,
> creating it. I wouldn't say I was the ultimate author, but I had author
> priveledges and was shaping events. So as the author, the story was
> important, but the trials and tribulations (and pain) of my character
> were of NO CONCERN. That's the FRIGHTENING part. As an author it's
> fine to write that the hero of the story "arched in bone splitting pain
> and the bullet passed through his shoulder blade" but the character is
> probably not smiling about it. However, the ultimate author knows it's
> all just a story, an illusion cast in the world of duality. In this
> instance all turned out well (miraculously! - just as the author 'wrote'
> it to) and the I survived. Still, I don't much like being a pawn
> anymore, even if it's of myself. Even if I had read the script and
> known the outcome I absolutely would have declined the part. Probably
> ..... maybe.
>
> Pip
>
> homer@lightlink.com wrote:
>
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>>
>> Author's write stories in which there are characters.
>>
>> Good stories have good and evil characters.
>>
>> Virtue for the Author is not the same as virtue for the characters.
>>
>> A good story is not a story in which all characters are good.
>>
>> "But Homer are you saying we should go out an commit evil?!"
>>
>> Certainly not as a character. Your body for example is part
>> of you as a character, not you as an Author, so you should not
>> commit harm with the body. This is part of the doctrine of
>> harmlessness.
>>
>> However as Author, as 'you as an OT', you certainly should create
>> majestic tapestries of good and evil, hide the humor in the conflict and
>> hold it up for all to partake in.
>>
>> As Author one is not harming the universe by doing so,
>> one is in fact enhancing the universe, by enhancing the story.
>>
>> Dicoms are like sandwiches, they enfold and hide humor.
>>
>> Homer
>>
>>
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(This is about the below posting, read it first or this one won't
make any sense.)
I would say you missed the beauty to the incident and still are,
thus it remains only partially run out and lingers as a lesson, as a
rue, don't want that to happen again.
How much enjoyment did higher beings get out of seeing your slap
stick comedy you put on for them at your expense?
How much love did it take to do that for them?
What had they done for you in the way of (painful) slap stick that
you appreciated with high appreciation for ludicrous demise?
What is the ultimate intent of the author creating such things?
Random engagement, or is their art?
Is there masterpiece?
It will only erase, as if it never happened, once the masterpiece
plane is contacted and let go on this incident.
What was the lie package that comprised the persistence and
unfolding of the event from the suffering point of view?
How was the lie package AS beautiful as the being who was
suffering, and as the suffering was ugly?
Once the match is made, the balance understood, the conservation of
beauty reaffirmed, the efficiacy of humor reinstated on the throne of
justice, then you will be free to create such again.
Until then there will be suffering and worry (rue) forever.
Homer
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY
homer@lightlink.com In the Line of Duty http://www.lightlink.com
On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, Pip wrote:
>>
>>
>> Virtue for the Author is not the same as virtue for the characters.
>>
>
>
> True. I actually remember a frightening example of the author-character
> relationship. First I remembered a terrifying and tragic incident while
> working on a somatic. It was this lifetime but I had completely
> suppressed it - I had not a clue. In resolving this incident I began
> to have flashbacks of earlier moments that led up to this event. In one
> of those moments I was in a higher state of consciousness and was
> devising the way things would unfold; actually setting it all up,
> creating it. I wouldn't say I was the ultimate author, but I had author
> priveledges and was shaping events. So as the author, the story was
> important, but the trials and tribulations (and pain) of my character
> were of NO CONCERN. That's the FRIGHTENING part. As an author it's
> fine to write that the hero of the story "arched in bone splitting pain
> and the bullet passed through his shoulder blade" but the character is
> probably not smiling about it. However, the ultimate author knows it's
> all just a story, an illusion cast in the world of duality. In this
> instance all turned out well (miraculously! - just as the author 'wrote'
> it to) and the I survived. Still, I don't much like being a pawn
> anymore, even if it's of myself. Even if I had read the script and
> known the outcome I absolutely would have declined the part. Probably
> ..... maybe.
>
> Pip
>
> homer@lightlink.com wrote:
>
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>>
>>
>> Author's write stories in which there are characters.
>>
>> Good stories have good and evil characters.
>>
>> Virtue for the Author is not the same as virtue for the characters.
>>
>> A good story is not a story in which all characters are good.
>>
>> "But Homer are you saying we should go out an commit evil?!"
>>
>> Certainly not as a character. Your body for example is part
>> of you as a character, not you as an Author, so you should not
>> commit harm with the body. This is part of the doctrine of
>> harmlessness.
>>
>> However as Author, as 'you as an OT', you certainly should create
>> majestic tapestries of good and evil, hide the humor in the conflict and
>> hold it up for all to partake in.
>>
>> As Author one is not harming the universe by doing so,
>> one is in fact enhancing the universe, by enhancing the story.
>>
>> Dicoms are like sandwiches, they enfold and hide humor.
>>
>> Homer
>>
>>
>> - ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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DREAM LESSONS
lr2447@techie.com wrote:
>Give it up, Homer.
>Nothing helps.
>Nothing works.
>You will always be subject to these dreams.
>All is lost.
Actually the dreams themselves are blow offs of charge directly
resulting from my own solo auditing.
When the dreaming stops, or they become banal, only then do I start
to worry about not making case gain in the waking state.
The blow off dreams are always lessons.
The bug dreams are lessons in not resisting, the bugs drop off and
go away. Flinch a bit and they bite in harder.
The babe dreams are both reward and also lesson, because getting a
girl or a whole beach of them to drop their shirts by a mere thought is
an art in itself.
The lost and lonely dreams are also a lesson. If I go LOOKING for
babes or people, I never find them, but if I just sit down and expect
them to show up, they materialize out of nowhere. Its the most amazing
thing I know.
Problem is it doesn't seem to work in real life.
First thing is, things and people can't just materialize out of
nowhere in the waking state, they gotta come from SOMEWHERE, and it
takes a lot of energy and effort to move from somewhere to somewhere
else, namely where I am, and it has to coincide with their own
postulates and needs at the time.
The simultaneous equation of having a babe show up right here,
right now where I am, is a lot harder.
Second thing is there are a lot of conflicting postulates on whether
we would want that to happen or not in the waking state.
In dreamtime it doesn't matter that I already have 3 jealous wives,
except with they enter the dream too :)
But beyond that it just doesn't seem to work.
Also like when applied to business, it would seem that just sitting
in a dark room and not doing anything at all will not bring business to
the door. One has to do SOMETHING to make people show up wanting
services etc. This is a major problem for us in present time, competing
against the giants of the communications industry like Time Warner and
Verizon phone.
But one can go bonkers trying to figure out what to DO to bring in
business, and frankly its just like the dreams where the more I look the
less I find, so I gotta wonder if there ain't some kind of zen of not
doing that I could be doing that would bring the contracts in.
But still the dreams remind me that 'command' is more effective
than effort, when I go LOOKING for babes, I find dirt, and oil
pollution, and darkness, and dank evil putridness, but if I sit down in
the middle of all that crud, where no babe would ever go on her own,
they just show up. Its really miraculous.
Adore teaches about the prior postulate to the question, that the
question keeps the prior postulate in effect.
The postulate that I have to go find babes implies the postulate
that there ain't no babes presently here. So the more I look for them,
the more I am postulating I don't have them and so the less I have even
when I look, they are always off receding into the distance.
But it takes unbelievable confront to sit down in the deepest,
dankest darkest part of dream town and just expect babes to show up. I
mean you should at least GO to where babes MIGHT show up, you see? Like
a library, or an eating place, or someplace pretty and safe.
But that solidifies two postulates, 1.) that babes only go
some places, so you gotta go there to meet them, and 2.) you still ain't
got no babes right where you are.
So taking the intention to just sit down where I am, and not do
ANYTHING to find babes, and they will come and find me is one of the
hardest thing to do in the world, yet in the dreams it works every time,
well most every time. Sometimes I get a lot of fags showing up, blecch,
but I try to be nice and affectionate, at least they are better than
nothing.
I don't know why the lesson of sitting still rather than looking
for something sometimes fails, and I am grateful that most of the time
it works.
So if I could just apply that little lesson to SOMETHING in the
real world, I would be greatly happy.
Dreams are also a selection out of a huge collection of nasty
engrams, so if I am swimming in cool clear water, almost heaven to me,
and I so much as get the idea that there might be something nasty
swimming with me, sure enough the pool or water becomes instantly full
of prehistoric monsters with a 1000 teeth per.
It takes a LOT of confront to think 'They will now swim with me
rather than AT me' like friendly dolphins. :)
Now the BT's form a whole other lesson as I have recorded here many
times.
I presume every being in my dream is a BT or being or composite or
something living from somewhere.
Some are very fragile, if I so much as look at them too hard, their
eyes go wide and they start to melt.
Some are unconfrontably strong, I can't do a thing with them, its
like fighting living stone. Sometimes I can absorb them into me as a
last gesture of non resistance, but that is not a clean solution, they
are still there in side me!
(Last night I ran into a seriously dead and ugly bunch of ghouls,
and one of them looked at me and said 'Let's see how wise you are', and
he walked right into me and half way through, where he got stuck. I
could as-is most of him, but not all of him. This was HIS choice to
walk into my body, usually I pull them in, or walk into them.
Maintaining cause helps as-is the meld afterwards.)
On others, I can do a single round of what are you, who are you,
and they start to come apart. But others will taunt me, I will start
'What are you' and they go 'Yeah yeah, who are you, what are you, who
are you, what are you' and start laughing their heads off.
So I try 'how many are you?' That gets a few of them.
Then 'When are you?' and that gets more.
Then 'Why are you?' and that gets more.
Then "How can I be of service to you?" and that gets more.
The rest I haven't solved yet.
Some need to be indicated how many they might be, up in the 100
trillions, when you get too high, they look at you and shake their
heads, as if to say 'nah no way, I ain't that many!' and you go back
down by powers of 10, until they nod and start behaving.
Now don't get me wrong I don't usually go trying to unmock the
beings in my dreams, I would rather play with them, but if they turn out
to be difficult or harassing, or invading or antagonistic then they
become fair game.
I have run into beings in my dreams so strong that my only possible
course of action is to become part of THEIR game lest they unmock or
crush me!
Homer
>Howzzat?
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lr2447@techie.com wrote:
>Give it up, Homer.
>Nothing helps.
>Nothing works.
>You will always be subject to these dreams.
>All is lost.
Actually the dreams themselves are blow offs of charge directly
resulting from my own solo auditing.
When the dreaming stops, or they become banal, only then do I start
to worry about not making case gain in the waking state.
The blow off dreams are always lessons.
The bug dreams are lessons in not resisting, the bugs drop off and
go away. Flinch a bit and they bite in harder.
The babe dreams are both reward and also lesson, because getting a
girl or a whole beach of them to drop their shirts by a mere thought is
an art in itself.
The lost and lonely dreams are also a lesson. If I go LOOKING for
babes or people, I never find them, but if I just sit down and expect
them to show up, they materialize out of nowhere. Its the most amazing
thing I know.
Problem is it doesn't seem to work in real life.
First thing is, things and people can't just materialize out of
nowhere in the waking state, they gotta come from SOMEWHERE, and it
takes a lot of energy and effort to move from somewhere to somewhere
else, namely where I am, and it has to coincide with their own
postulates and needs at the time.
The simultaneous equation of having a babe show up right here,
right now where I am, is a lot harder.
Second thing is there are a lot of conflicting postulates on whether
we would want that to happen or not in the waking state.
In dreamtime it doesn't matter that I already have 3 jealous wives,
except with they enter the dream too :)
But beyond that it just doesn't seem to work.
Also like when applied to business, it would seem that just sitting
in a dark room and not doing anything at all will not bring business to
the door. One has to do SOMETHING to make people show up wanting
services etc. This is a major problem for us in present time, competing
against the giants of the communications industry like Time Warner and
Verizon phone.
But one can go bonkers trying to figure out what to DO to bring in
business, and frankly its just like the dreams where the more I look the
less I find, so I gotta wonder if there ain't some kind of zen of not
doing that I could be doing that would bring the contracts in.
But still the dreams remind me that 'command' is more effective
than effort, when I go LOOKING for babes, I find dirt, and oil
pollution, and darkness, and dank evil putridness, but if I sit down in
the middle of all that crud, where no babe would ever go on her own,
they just show up. Its really miraculous.
Adore teaches about the prior postulate to the question, that the
question keeps the prior postulate in effect.
The postulate that I have to go find babes implies the postulate
that there ain't no babes presently here. So the more I look for them,
the more I am postulating I don't have them and so the less I have even
when I look, they are always off receding into the distance.
But it takes unbelievable confront to sit down in the deepest,
dankest darkest part of dream town and just expect babes to show up. I
mean you should at least GO to where babes MIGHT show up, you see? Like
a library, or an eating place, or someplace pretty and safe.
But that solidifies two postulates, 1.) that babes only go
some places, so you gotta go there to meet them, and 2.) you still ain't
got no babes right where you are.
So taking the intention to just sit down where I am, and not do
ANYTHING to find babes, and they will come and find me is one of the
hardest thing to do in the world, yet in the dreams it works every time,
well most every time. Sometimes I get a lot of fags showing up, blecch,
but I try to be nice and affectionate, at least they are better than
nothing.
I don't know why the lesson of sitting still rather than looking
for something sometimes fails, and I am grateful that most of the time
it works.
So if I could just apply that little lesson to SOMETHING in the
real world, I would be greatly happy.
Dreams are also a selection out of a huge collection of nasty
engrams, so if I am swimming in cool clear water, almost heaven to me,
and I so much as get the idea that there might be something nasty
swimming with me, sure enough the pool or water becomes instantly full
of prehistoric monsters with a 1000 teeth per.
It takes a LOT of confront to think 'They will now swim with me
rather than AT me' like friendly dolphins. :)
Now the BT's form a whole other lesson as I have recorded here many
times.
I presume every being in my dream is a BT or being or composite or
something living from somewhere.
Some are very fragile, if I so much as look at them too hard, their
eyes go wide and they start to melt.
Some are unconfrontably strong, I can't do a thing with them, its
like fighting living stone. Sometimes I can absorb them into me as a
last gesture of non resistance, but that is not a clean solution, they
are still there in side me!
(Last night I ran into a seriously dead and ugly bunch of ghouls,
and one of them looked at me and said 'Let's see how wise you are', and
he walked right into me and half way through, where he got stuck. I
could as-is most of him, but not all of him. This was HIS choice to
walk into my body, usually I pull them in, or walk into them.
Maintaining cause helps as-is the meld afterwards.)
On others, I can do a single round of what are you, who are you,
and they start to come apart. But others will taunt me, I will start
'What are you' and they go 'Yeah yeah, who are you, what are you, who
are you, what are you' and start laughing their heads off.
So I try 'how many are you?' That gets a few of them.
Then 'When are you?' and that gets more.
Then 'Why are you?' and that gets more.
Then "How can I be of service to you?" and that gets more.
The rest I haven't solved yet.
Some need to be indicated how many they might be, up in the 100
trillions, when you get too high, they look at you and shake their
heads, as if to say 'nah no way, I ain't that many!' and you go back
down by powers of 10, until they nod and start behaving.
Now don't get me wrong I don't usually go trying to unmock the
beings in my dreams, I would rather play with them, but if they turn out
to be difficult or harassing, or invading or antagonistic then they
become fair game.
I have run into beings in my dreams so strong that my only possible
course of action is to become part of THEIR game lest they unmock or
crush me!
Homer
>Howzzat?
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From: Roland <roland.rashleigh-berry@virgin.net>
To: CLEAR-L@lightlink.com
Subject: Account of Exteriorisation with Full Perception
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:09:32 +0100
This is a repost of my account of exteriorisation with full
perception.
By Roland Rashleigh-Berry.
This is the story about my experience in Scientology known as
"Exteriorisation with Full Perception". What this means is leaving your
body and having normal perception such as sight and sound available to
you.
This happens when you are fully awake being "audited" usually and
happens in the same room as your body in nearly all cases. Essentially
you ~see~ your body from the outside. This experience is fairly common
for people receiving Scientology processing.
From talking to people about 40% of people experience it at some
time and usually early on in their auditing. It happens most frequently
with "objective" processing which is to do with orientating a person in
the "objective" universe. (You go around touching walls and holding
them still and finding parts of your body etc.).
In my case is happened during auditing with an E-meter during the
process called "ARC Straightwire".
If anyone comes across this they are free to copy and web the page
as well as connect my name with the page. This conflicts with my
business interests (I have pages on the Internet devoted to a shareware
product of mine) however what I will write here is the truth and that
truth ought to be broadly known to people. I will present my story next
and at the end will include some analysis of the experience.
I was being audited in one of the auditing rooms at St. Hill
Castle in southern England about June 1994. The process was "ARC
Straightwire". It was the evening about 8 p.m. I was becoming rather
bored with the auditing which did not seem to be getting me anywhere.
It seemed to be an almost endless series of questions, an experience to
endure rather than to benefit from. I looked through the window. The
sky was darkening with clouds. It looked as though there would be a
thunder storm shortly. I returned my attention to the auditor who
seemed to be more disinterested in my auditing than I was. The auditing
command was "Recall Prevented Sex". I had exhausted all the examples
some time ago and so was just repeating them.
The auditor continued with the command though even though I could
think of nothing. This means that he was getting a persistent read on
the E-meter. This can mean that there was something I was refusing to
reveal that bothered me about this. Alternatively it could mean that
there was something underlying this topic that was inaccessible to my
conscious mind.
Anyway, the same question was repeated with my repeating the same
examples. I was bored. It was then that my previous thoughts regarding
a thunder-storm seemed to be fulfilled in a most spectacular way. The
single ceiling light in the auditing room flared up to an incredible
brilliance. I would say it seemed to be about ten times brighter than
normal.
I was very surprised the bulb did not blow. I thought a lightning
bolt must have struck the local power station. I turned to the auditor
and said "Did you see that?". I got no reaction but then auditors are
trained not to react to things like that. I was surprised though that
he did not at least acknowledge my comment.
It seemed as though he had not seen it which to me seemed
impossible. The light had reduced in intensity but was to me at least
four times as bright as normal. I was still very concerned about it. I
asked him "What=92s wrong with the electricity in here?". Again I got
absolutely no response. An instant later I experienced what I thought
was a landslide.
The whole room slipped forward by about two feet leaving me behind.
It was a bit like the feeling you have when you are in a fast lift
(elevator) going downwards though extremely more so. The room had
slipped forwards leaving me behind. I was absolutely shocked.
I could see the room from outside my body. I was about the height
of the top of my head but about two to three feet behind and slightly to
the left of my left shoulder. I wanted to be where my body was. I did
not understand what was going on.
I was about to ask the auditor to help me but realised I had no
mouth with which to speak. No sound came out. I then thought that I
could probably still use the mouth of my body. I found I could. I said
to him "I can still use my body=92s mouth. I=92ve slipped two feet
forwards. Could you push me back two feet back in my direction?" (I
know this is self-contradictory). The auditor had at last worked out
what was happening. He said "In the last auditing command, did you
exteriorise?".
Then, and only then, could I make any sense of what had happened to
me. I was exterior! I started taking a more leisurely look round. The
light now seemed duller han usual rather than brighter. I could see
fairly clearly and the 3-D seemed more pronounced than normal (I have a
defective left eye which effectively destroys my 3-D vision with normal
sight).
I looked at the back of my head. It did not seem like it was me
any more. I was going to ask the auditor "who=92s that other person in
the room?" but then I remembered it was my own body. I remember
thinking to myself "How am I seeing? If I have no physical eyes then I
have no lenses to focus the light. Am I actually projecting the world
from my own mind?". I then started feeling sorry for myself and for
other people. I was thinking "Is this what we are? Invisible spirits
too weak to act on their own and now we are trapped in bodies to suffer
the experiences of pain and death".
I looked at the back of my head again. I wondered if my body were
a living thing that was once a spirit. I felt sympathy for my body. At
that instant I shot towards the head of the body, not of my own
volition, and into it like a bullet.
I was back in my body. I was feeling exhausted. The auditor, who
I had been ignoring for the last half minute, ended the session without
further ado as is standard procedure when an exteriorisation occurs.
Though I was tired I began feeling elated. I thought "That was it,
exteriorisation with full perception. It=92s happened to me". When I got
up to leave the auditing room I discovered that my balance had been
severely effected. I could hardly manage to walk. Going down the
corridor I was repeatedly bumping into the walls. I had to put my hands
out to steady myself.
The auditor takes you to another room where another person checks
you out on n E-meter. It is called "exams". In the outside room I sort
of overshot and went crashing in to a table. I sort of fell into the
exam room and caused a small surprise. I was happy.
When I went back to the place I was staying at my balance was still
affected. I walked there which was in retrospect rather stupid since
the road outside was an unlit narrow country road and I could not walk
in a straight line. However I wanted time to absorb what had happened
to me.
Walking back I felt I was surrounded by invisible humming machines.
I was tired but I had the feeling I would not sleep well. When I got
back it was as I expected. I could not sleep well and must have got
only two hours sleep all night. My thinking was confused. Next morning
my balance had thankfully returned to normal.
That is the end of my story. I will keep a copy and update it if I
remember any more. I think I have it all down though. My memory is
very good. Now follows some thoughts on this experience.
Exteriorisation happens to about 40% of people who receive
Scientology auditing and it tends to happen early on in auditing. It is
little wonder that thereafter the person becomes a supporter of
Scientology.
"If this is what happens early on then think of what there is to
come" is a common thought.
The problem is that the experience is non-repeatable (well
certainly I cannot do it and I know of nobody who can do this at will).
As for better things to come this is unfortunately just wishful
thinking.
It is perfectly obvious to me that L. Ron Hubbard went off the
rails in the early =9160s. He created a group of followers around him who
believed every word he uttered must be true.
He also created an absurd system called "ethics" (which was nothing
of the sort) that accused those of not getting good results from
auditing as having crimes against him and Scientology. In so doing he
robbed himself of all negative feedback from his research and he became
the victim of his own fantasies.
His later "research" led him to believe in such nonsense as Lord
Xenu who 75 million years ago turned the populations of planets into
"body thetans" which now infest our bodies and need to be telepathically
audited out. The "upper levels" of Scientology are largely concerned
with this.
To my thinking we should return to this phenomenon of
"exteriorisation" and forget the rest of Hubbard=92s material. It is a
field that requires a great deal of further research. Even if this
experience is not repeatable then at least it should be further
understood.
I am no longer a member of the Church of Scientology. I am now
opposed to its very existence. Their "Bridge to Total Freedom" which
they sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars is the Bridge to nowhere
but financial ruin.
That Hubbard went mad in the =9160s and degenerated further, both in
his research and his relationships with other people, during his
remaining years is obvious to those who care to read into the subject
(see the book "Bare-Faced Messiah" on the Internet).
However, at an early stage, I believe his intentions were good.
The phenomenon of exteriorisation is to me the most significant
spiritual and scientific achievement of the last thousand years. I
believe that this phenomenon, if researched enough, will be the
jumping-off point for the spiritual evolution of mankind in the next
millennium.
Roland Rashleigh-Berry,
26th December 1996.
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From: Roland <roland.rashleigh-berry@virgin.net>
To: CLEAR-L@lightlink.com
Subject: Account of Exteriorisation with Full Perception
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:09:32 +0100
This is a repost of my account of exteriorisation with full
perception.
By Roland Rashleigh-Berry.
This is the story about my experience in Scientology known as
"Exteriorisation with Full Perception". What this means is leaving your
body and having normal perception such as sight and sound available to
you.
This happens when you are fully awake being "audited" usually and
happens in the same room as your body in nearly all cases. Essentially
you ~see~ your body from the outside. This experience is fairly common
for people receiving Scientology processing.
From talking to people about 40% of people experience it at some
time and usually early on in their auditing. It happens most frequently
with "objective" processing which is to do with orientating a person in
the "objective" universe. (You go around touching walls and holding
them still and finding parts of your body etc.).
In my case is happened during auditing with an E-meter during the
process called "ARC Straightwire".
If anyone comes across this they are free to copy and web the page
as well as connect my name with the page. This conflicts with my
business interests (I have pages on the Internet devoted to a shareware
product of mine) however what I will write here is the truth and that
truth ought to be broadly known to people. I will present my story next
and at the end will include some analysis of the experience.
I was being audited in one of the auditing rooms at St. Hill
Castle in southern England about June 1994. The process was "ARC
Straightwire". It was the evening about 8 p.m. I was becoming rather
bored with the auditing which did not seem to be getting me anywhere.
It seemed to be an almost endless series of questions, an experience to
endure rather than to benefit from. I looked through the window. The
sky was darkening with clouds. It looked as though there would be a
thunder storm shortly. I returned my attention to the auditor who
seemed to be more disinterested in my auditing than I was. The auditing
command was "Recall Prevented Sex". I had exhausted all the examples
some time ago and so was just repeating them.
The auditor continued with the command though even though I could
think of nothing. This means that he was getting a persistent read on
the E-meter. This can mean that there was something I was refusing to
reveal that bothered me about this. Alternatively it could mean that
there was something underlying this topic that was inaccessible to my
conscious mind.
Anyway, the same question was repeated with my repeating the same
examples. I was bored. It was then that my previous thoughts regarding
a thunder-storm seemed to be fulfilled in a most spectacular way. The
single ceiling light in the auditing room flared up to an incredible
brilliance. I would say it seemed to be about ten times brighter than
normal.
I was very surprised the bulb did not blow. I thought a lightning
bolt must have struck the local power station. I turned to the auditor
and said "Did you see that?". I got no reaction but then auditors are
trained not to react to things like that. I was surprised though that
he did not at least acknowledge my comment.
It seemed as though he had not seen it which to me seemed
impossible. The light had reduced in intensity but was to me at least
four times as bright as normal. I was still very concerned about it. I
asked him "What=92s wrong with the electricity in here?". Again I got
absolutely no response. An instant later I experienced what I thought
was a landslide.
The whole room slipped forward by about two feet leaving me behind.
It was a bit like the feeling you have when you are in a fast lift
(elevator) going downwards though extremely more so. The room had
slipped forwards leaving me behind. I was absolutely shocked.
I could see the room from outside my body. I was about the height
of the top of my head but about two to three feet behind and slightly to
the left of my left shoulder. I wanted to be where my body was. I did
not understand what was going on.
I was about to ask the auditor to help me but realised I had no
mouth with which to speak. No sound came out. I then thought that I
could probably still use the mouth of my body. I found I could. I said
to him "I can still use my body=92s mouth. I=92ve slipped two feet
forwards. Could you push me back two feet back in my direction?" (I
know this is self-contradictory). The auditor had at last worked out
what was happening. He said "In the last auditing command, did you
exteriorise?".
Then, and only then, could I make any sense of what had happened to
me. I was exterior! I started taking a more leisurely look round. The
light now seemed duller han usual rather than brighter. I could see
fairly clearly and the 3-D seemed more pronounced than normal (I have a
defective left eye which effectively destroys my 3-D vision with normal
sight).
I looked at the back of my head. It did not seem like it was me
any more. I was going to ask the auditor "who=92s that other person in
the room?" but then I remembered it was my own body. I remember
thinking to myself "How am I seeing? If I have no physical eyes then I
have no lenses to focus the light. Am I actually projecting the world
from my own mind?". I then started feeling sorry for myself and for
other people. I was thinking "Is this what we are? Invisible spirits
too weak to act on their own and now we are trapped in bodies to suffer
the experiences of pain and death".
I looked at the back of my head again. I wondered if my body were
a living thing that was once a spirit. I felt sympathy for my body. At
that instant I shot towards the head of the body, not of my own
volition, and into it like a bullet.
I was back in my body. I was feeling exhausted. The auditor, who
I had been ignoring for the last half minute, ended the session without
further ado as is standard procedure when an exteriorisation occurs.
Though I was tired I began feeling elated. I thought "That was it,
exteriorisation with full perception. It=92s happened to me". When I got
up to leave the auditing room I discovered that my balance had been
severely effected. I could hardly manage to walk. Going down the
corridor I was repeatedly bumping into the walls. I had to put my hands
out to steady myself.
The auditor takes you to another room where another person checks
you out on n E-meter. It is called "exams". In the outside room I sort
of overshot and went crashing in to a table. I sort of fell into the
exam room and caused a small surprise. I was happy.
When I went back to the place I was staying at my balance was still
affected. I walked there which was in retrospect rather stupid since
the road outside was an unlit narrow country road and I could not walk
in a straight line. However I wanted time to absorb what had happened
to me.
Walking back I felt I was surrounded by invisible humming machines.
I was tired but I had the feeling I would not sleep well. When I got
back it was as I expected. I could not sleep well and must have got
only two hours sleep all night. My thinking was confused. Next morning
my balance had thankfully returned to normal.
That is the end of my story. I will keep a copy and update it if I
remember any more. I think I have it all down though. My memory is
very good. Now follows some thoughts on this experience.
Exteriorisation happens to about 40% of people who receive
Scientology auditing and it tends to happen early on in auditing. It is
little wonder that thereafter the person becomes a supporter of
Scientology.
"If this is what happens early on then think of what there is to
come" is a common thought.
The problem is that the experience is non-repeatable (well
certainly I cannot do it and I know of nobody who can do this at will).
As for better things to come this is unfortunately just wishful
thinking.
It is perfectly obvious to me that L. Ron Hubbard went off the
rails in the early =9160s. He created a group of followers around him who
believed every word he uttered must be true.
He also created an absurd system called "ethics" (which was nothing
of the sort) that accused those of not getting good results from
auditing as having crimes against him and Scientology. In so doing he
robbed himself of all negative feedback from his research and he became
the victim of his own fantasies.
His later "research" led him to believe in such nonsense as Lord
Xenu who 75 million years ago turned the populations of planets into
"body thetans" which now infest our bodies and need to be telepathically
audited out. The "upper levels" of Scientology are largely concerned
with this.
To my thinking we should return to this phenomenon of
"exteriorisation" and forget the rest of Hubbard=92s material. It is a
field that requires a great deal of further research. Even if this
experience is not repeatable then at least it should be further
understood.
I am no longer a member of the Church of Scientology. I am now
opposed to its very existence. Their "Bridge to Total Freedom" which
they sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars is the Bridge to nowhere
but financial ruin.
That Hubbard went mad in the =9160s and degenerated further, both in
his research and his relationships with other people, during his
remaining years is obvious to those who care to read into the subject
(see the book "Bare-Faced Messiah" on the Internet).
However, at an early stage, I believe his intentions were good.
The phenomenon of exteriorisation is to me the most significant
spiritual and scientific achievement of the last thousand years. I
believe that this phenomenon, if researched enough, will be the
jumping-off point for the spiritual evolution of mankind in the next
millennium.
Roland Rashleigh-Berry,
26th December 1996.
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TAKING BACK RESPONSIBILITY
Since an as-isness is a perfect replication of what was originally
created, if one has handed out responsibility to lots of vias and causal
terminals like other beings etc, then one must hand it all out again
just as one did before in order to retract it all.
Taking back responsibility means re delegating responsibility back
out correctly to everyone involved.
You are taking back responsibility for DELEGATING RESPONSIBILITY,
assigning cause to other beings. Thus you can take back your
delegation.
The being who is saying "I did it all" is refusing responsibility
for delegation of responsibility and cause.
The thetan dying at the bottom of the tone scale is going first
"You did this all to me!" and then "I am doing this all to myself!"
Neither as-ises, because the actual web of lies is more complex
than he is capable of spotting.
For example if a thetan has a headache, and he is melded with 3
grippers, 1700 cooties from hell, and a couple of Black Guard of the
Devil, but he's numbed it all out so all he has is the pain, it won't
work to just claim 'I am causing the headache' mainly because he has no
clue any more HOW he is causing the headache.
Yes his resistance and fear are ultimately causing the headache,
but he gets so introverted that he thinks all he is resisting is the
pain, and he tries to accept it and it won't vanish! It just gets worse
in fact.
The pain is the RESULT of his semi subconscious resistances, so if
he accepts the result of resistance he will merely get more of it.
He has to spot what he is really resisting, and they are POWERFUL
BUGGERS, many times more powerful than him, if he got into an arm
wrestling match with just one of these guys he would lose his arm with
the match, but once he gets what is really going on, they will vanish
and with it the pain.
By the way if the thetan at the bottom of the tone scale would
simply stop positing why he is in trouble, even by trying to take
responsibility for everything, he would start bubbling back up the tone
scale to where he could properly redistribute cause again to ultimately
retract it all back again at the top of the tone scale.
And always remember there are two kinds of acceptance.
Resignation is acceptance with expectation of persistence.
AS-ISness is acceptance with expectation of vanishment.
Confusion of the two is the source of untold trouble.
Homer
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Since an as-isness is a perfect replication of what was originally
created, if one has handed out responsibility to lots of vias and causal
terminals like other beings etc, then one must hand it all out again
just as one did before in order to retract it all.
Taking back responsibility means re delegating responsibility back
out correctly to everyone involved.
You are taking back responsibility for DELEGATING RESPONSIBILITY,
assigning cause to other beings. Thus you can take back your
delegation.
The being who is saying "I did it all" is refusing responsibility
for delegation of responsibility and cause.
The thetan dying at the bottom of the tone scale is going first
"You did this all to me!" and then "I am doing this all to myself!"
Neither as-ises, because the actual web of lies is more complex
than he is capable of spotting.
For example if a thetan has a headache, and he is melded with 3
grippers, 1700 cooties from hell, and a couple of Black Guard of the
Devil, but he's numbed it all out so all he has is the pain, it won't
work to just claim 'I am causing the headache' mainly because he has no
clue any more HOW he is causing the headache.
Yes his resistance and fear are ultimately causing the headache,
but he gets so introverted that he thinks all he is resisting is the
pain, and he tries to accept it and it won't vanish! It just gets worse
in fact.
The pain is the RESULT of his semi subconscious resistances, so if
he accepts the result of resistance he will merely get more of it.
He has to spot what he is really resisting, and they are POWERFUL
BUGGERS, many times more powerful than him, if he got into an arm
wrestling match with just one of these guys he would lose his arm with
the match, but once he gets what is really going on, they will vanish
and with it the pain.
By the way if the thetan at the bottom of the tone scale would
simply stop positing why he is in trouble, even by trying to take
responsibility for everything, he would start bubbling back up the tone
scale to where he could properly redistribute cause again to ultimately
retract it all back again at the top of the tone scale.
And always remember there are two kinds of acceptance.
Resignation is acceptance with expectation of persistence.
AS-ISness is acceptance with expectation of vanishment.
Confusion of the two is the source of untold trouble.
Homer
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CLEAR AND OT
A Operating Thetan is a conscious unit.
Clear is a spiritual state free from aberration.
Aberrations are self installed but otherwise other determined
thoughts, emotions, and efforts that result from pain and
unconsciousness stored in the being's time track, which are not
appropriate to present time, and are damaging to the life of the
preclear.
There can be acute aberrations, moments of insanity born of anger,
hate, and no sympathy or even regret, and chronic aberrations which
persist through the whole life of the being, including physical somatics
(pains), crippling conditions, and other disabilities on the spiritual,
mental, emotional and physical planes, including chronic illness of many
kinds.
The time track is erased by first removing all the force, pain and
unconsciousness from the recordings by direct viewing of detested
moments along with his intent to use them, and then when the time track
is fully clear, it can be erased in its entirety leaving the person with
no recorded memory of his history. Memory then results from direct
pervasion of the past.
OT
People tend to think that clear is a gradient on the way to
becoming OT.
In fact CLEAR and OT are two completely different subjects.
There is no BECOMING OT, everyone is an OT at all times.
OT's have two operating modes called Creator and Creature, Author
and Character, or Game Creator and Game Player.
The basic purpose of an OT is to create games of limitation, of
freedoms, barriers and purposes, and then to jump into them and play
them for fun, either with or without awareness of having created the
game (or bought it from another), or of self incarnating as the player.
Like an arcade game writer or Author, they create characters with
abilities and limitations, give them goals to strive for and barriers to
attainment, and then they don, take on, these creations and play them as
if they were actual.
Happiness is the overcoming of not unknowable barriers towards
known goals.
Happiness is in the chase. The chase creates time and persistence
for the dreamtime apparancies of matter, energy, space and time.
When games are no longer fun, it is time to become the
Creator/Author again, and redesign a new game for yourself.
This is a lot easier than trying to continue the existing game by
acquiring super natural powers so you can break the game rules and win
by cheating against an overwhelming enemy.
Games become no longer fun mostly when the chances of either
winning or losing are too high. It's the not know on the matter that
generates thrill.
Remember a game that is won is lost, you need a new game.
A game that is lost, is also lost, again you need a new game.
Happy havingness then is having a game to play, that still needs or
demands playing, usually with full awareness of who created the game and
who chose to engage it. But sometimes not, some games are more fun if
one simply wakes up into them one day in the middle of the enemy coming
over the hill (mother), and having to hit the floor running. One can
then spend quiet times musing about 'What's it all about?'
In otherwords, where am I, how did I get here, and where am I
going? You see he KNOWS the answers to all these questions, but
sometimes the game is such that it would ruin the game to know.
OT's in creator mode are often expected to have supernatural powers
like telekenesis, but a being who can create a space and time, put a
table in it with a marble on top, is very unlikely to be interested in
proving that he did so afterwards, let alone move the marble in
violation of game rules as a game player.
If you can put the marble there with your will, you can move the
marble with your will.
Further the OT would be putting the "Prove it!" case there to harp
at him. Prove it cases are just another marble on the table to the OT.
If game rules allow for telekenesis, then the marble will move when
it is time, but breaking game rules wakes everyone up from game player
mode into game creator mode ahead of schedule, kind of like calling
'Portal!' on the Enterprise's holodeck.
Other game players HATE that.
Yes, life is a holodeck dreaming that it is not.
Consciousness exists, physical universe is pure hallucination
including the brain. All physical objects are symbols for something
actual going on in the spiritual world. Cause is thus in the spiritual
world, and not the physical world which is a dream rendition.
The 'why' exceeds most people's imagination, mainly because creator
mode is somewhat alien to creature mode, and what is virtue for the
creator is not necessarily virtue for the creature and visa versa.
A 'good' Author will create 'good' stories consisting of good and
bad people. A story with only good people in it, would be boring to the
point of self termination.
Yet if a character were caught creating bad people, he would be
drawn and quartered. Kind of the way most people feel about God.
It's not OK for someone to have done this thing to someone else,
but it is OK to have done it to yourself.
Thus goodness in an Author and goodness in a character are not the
same thing.
Characters in fact fear authors for just that reason, they worry
about being part of a 'good' story, sometimes the good die young.
But the good also live forever, and in the end, because no one
judges anyone but one's self, only the good end up in hell for a while,
because only the good feel guilty.
So its an interesting world out there, much more interesting than
our parents taught us.
CLEAR
Clearing has to do with aberration.
The primary source of aberration is carrying around a time track,
which is a spiritual facsimile recording of everything that one has
done, and experienced.
The problem with the time track is it records the FORCE which
impinged on the being at the time of the recording and the pain and
unconsciousness. Thus when the being reactivates a recorded incident on
the time track, the recorded incident can FORCE the being along, with
pain and unconsciousness to do, think, feel or say something.
The time track itself is a fair chosen creation, it had its
purposes at the time, perhaps to control the being during times of
extreme danger when the analytical mind could not think clearly.
But the utter idiocy of the thinking that takes place when the time
track is commanding the being is far worse, and has ended everyone up in
the soup they presently find themselves in today.
It's all fair chosen with the twinkling of an eye, but its a long
slippery slope getting here, so you won't find a single moment of
responsibility for the entire mess, but many of them.
A time track is a recording of everything that has happened to one,
particularly moments of pain and unconsciousness.
The moments can restimulate during similar dangers in present time,
and when they do, they offer to the being 'solutions' to his present
predicament. These solutions are taken from the winning valence in the
past incidents that are in restimulation.
Somewhere in the past you are bugging someone, and they hit you
over the head with a stone and kill you. They are the winning valence
in the recording.
Sometime in the future, someone is bugging you, and the past
incident comes over you and almost MAKES you pick up a baseball bat and
knock the brains out of the other. There is a moment of choice in there
though, when the present being thinks 'well this looks like a good
idea', WHAPP!
More often in civilized society these things happen at the level of
words and emotions, which similar results.
Maybe words can't kill, but they can kill a relationship.
Regret however CAN kill.
Such events are often regretted, and thus the being loses faith in
his own ability to deal and stay cool, and he doesn't understand anymore
that he is getting long ago solicited 'help' from his time track,
because his time track is buried in unconsciousness and pain which only
reaches out to 'help' him determine what to do under moments of extreme
stress and danger.
At some point in the child's life, the continuous stress of living
around other aberrated people will result in the child CHOOSING an
incident in which he lost or was hurt, and begin to 'wear' that incident
full time.
Such incidents usually have a golden ally then them, someone who
defended the being during the original recording, against the contra
survival forces doing the child in.
So you get the hero, villan, victim triangle, where the being was a
victim, the golden ally was the hero, and the villan was the bad guy.
Father is beating up on child for spilling milk, mother is trying
to fend him off...
Mother is sticking knitting needle through fetus to abort it, and
aunt rushes in to stop her.
Psychiatrists are giving mother electric shock treatment while
unknowingly pregnant with early fetus. Spirits move in to protect the
fetus from the waves of electricity.
Sometimes a person can be his own golden ally from a past life.
Pregnant mother is trying to commit suicide by hanging, her father
rushes in and stops her. She has baby, father dies of old age on same
day, he comes back and takes over new baby body. Baby grows up haunted
that he will never find his one true friend that he has been looking for
all his life. It's him from his immediate past life.
Normally when such a sympathy incident comes into play, the present
time being will choose the valence of the winning villan, but if that
doesn't work well, he will choose his OWN valence of being a chronic
victim in order to entice others to become the golden ally again in
present time.
His computation is if he could just be the way he was when he was
last defended by the ally, the ally will materialize and come to defend
him again, or he might get someone else of similar sensitivity to
surrogate for the original ally.
At first it works, then it doesn't, then the guy is stuck with the
incident in chronic restim, because he has failed to confess the ploy.
And since the incident contains numbness and unconsciousness, he
won't remember either the incident when it first occurred, or the choice
to use it, let alone the choice to forget about it later.
Thus you have your work cut out for you when trying to clear a
human being.
Being unclear says nothing about whether one is an OT or not, all
uncleared beings have a time track, and that time track will 'help' them
whether the OT is in creator mode or creature mode.
An aberrated creator mode being can be a real liability to have
around, for he starts to write BAD stories, rather than GOOD stories.
However enough lift up into the top layers of creator mode will
raise the being above his time track where he can work with it directly
unaffected by it.
Word clear the above until you understand the difference:
Good story, bad story
Good character, bad character.
When clearing a being you need to get at the first moment of
murderous intention, anger and no sympathy, That's his worst valence,
and its source will be found to be in his most detested part of his time
track, the part that most never happened. If he is aware of it, it
ain't it.
If he keeps his NO INCIDENT in place in present time he will
feel fine but tend to dramatize murdering things once in a while.
If he begins to wonder what's up with the blood trail, and
starts into SOME INCIDENT, somatics will turn on that will murder him.
He is in a moment of BEING murdered, so when he flips back into
valence he feels like he is dying.
Run "Who or what are you still trying to murder, kill or destroy."
Or get him back to creating NO INCIDENT.
That will chill out the somatics real fast without knowing anything
about the incident.
He lost his class during that one, no more Mr. Nice guy, no more
friends with the universe, no more you are my brother, nope, your skin
will wear nicely draped on my wife's back.
But mixed in with all that murderous intention is regret, sometimes
he murders the wrong guy, some times the sad eyes of his victim really
get to him, you can feel sorry for anyone if they are doing bad enough,
and eventually he forms a murderous intention towards himself and his
own murderous intentions.
Then you got an unauditable ball of mental mass, the guy is at odds
with himself.
To BE or not to BE?
To KILL or not to KILL?
To KILL *AND* not to KILL?
As long as he is stuck in an indecision on these matters, he will
be spiraling downward in life.
This state kind of parks him as an OT in the creature mode, because
he dares not have any power that could be used to harm anything or write
further bad stories.
Thus it is generally considered that a person needs to be cleared
first before one can work on getting them back into Author mode again in
order to better design their life's game.
Of course there is so much bad that comes from the aberrations of
being unclear, that just getting cleared will improve all but the most
crazy OT's life.
But crazy or not, once cleared, any OT can start rewriting better
stories for himself and his game mates, even stories in the wild beyond,
the undreamed dream come true.
So charge the guy at least $100/hour to get him out of his ball of
mass, BUT GET HIM OUT OF IT. Don't pansy around with this stuff, or he
will one day start to target you.
The greatest danger of auditing a murderer or worse someone who has
been murdered, is getting murdered, and that's everyone.
No one has a track free of murder, and everyone has wished murder
off on so many others during this and other lifetimes he can't remember
it any more, and attempted murder counts as murder.
So we all have some clearing to do.
Homer
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A Operating Thetan is a conscious unit.
Clear is a spiritual state free from aberration.
Aberrations are self installed but otherwise other determined
thoughts, emotions, and efforts that result from pain and
unconsciousness stored in the being's time track, which are not
appropriate to present time, and are damaging to the life of the
preclear.
There can be acute aberrations, moments of insanity born of anger,
hate, and no sympathy or even regret, and chronic aberrations which
persist through the whole life of the being, including physical somatics
(pains), crippling conditions, and other disabilities on the spiritual,
mental, emotional and physical planes, including chronic illness of many
kinds.
The time track is erased by first removing all the force, pain and
unconsciousness from the recordings by direct viewing of detested
moments along with his intent to use them, and then when the time track
is fully clear, it can be erased in its entirety leaving the person with
no recorded memory of his history. Memory then results from direct
pervasion of the past.
OT
People tend to think that clear is a gradient on the way to
becoming OT.
In fact CLEAR and OT are two completely different subjects.
There is no BECOMING OT, everyone is an OT at all times.
OT's have two operating modes called Creator and Creature, Author
and Character, or Game Creator and Game Player.
The basic purpose of an OT is to create games of limitation, of
freedoms, barriers and purposes, and then to jump into them and play
them for fun, either with or without awareness of having created the
game (or bought it from another), or of self incarnating as the player.
Like an arcade game writer or Author, they create characters with
abilities and limitations, give them goals to strive for and barriers to
attainment, and then they don, take on, these creations and play them as
if they were actual.
Happiness is the overcoming of not unknowable barriers towards
known goals.
Happiness is in the chase. The chase creates time and persistence
for the dreamtime apparancies of matter, energy, space and time.
When games are no longer fun, it is time to become the
Creator/Author again, and redesign a new game for yourself.
This is a lot easier than trying to continue the existing game by
acquiring super natural powers so you can break the game rules and win
by cheating against an overwhelming enemy.
Games become no longer fun mostly when the chances of either
winning or losing are too high. It's the not know on the matter that
generates thrill.
Remember a game that is won is lost, you need a new game.
A game that is lost, is also lost, again you need a new game.
Happy havingness then is having a game to play, that still needs or
demands playing, usually with full awareness of who created the game and
who chose to engage it. But sometimes not, some games are more fun if
one simply wakes up into them one day in the middle of the enemy coming
over the hill (mother), and having to hit the floor running. One can
then spend quiet times musing about 'What's it all about?'
In otherwords, where am I, how did I get here, and where am I
going? You see he KNOWS the answers to all these questions, but
sometimes the game is such that it would ruin the game to know.
OT's in creator mode are often expected to have supernatural powers
like telekenesis, but a being who can create a space and time, put a
table in it with a marble on top, is very unlikely to be interested in
proving that he did so afterwards, let alone move the marble in
violation of game rules as a game player.
If you can put the marble there with your will, you can move the
marble with your will.
Further the OT would be putting the "Prove it!" case there to harp
at him. Prove it cases are just another marble on the table to the OT.
If game rules allow for telekenesis, then the marble will move when
it is time, but breaking game rules wakes everyone up from game player
mode into game creator mode ahead of schedule, kind of like calling
'Portal!' on the Enterprise's holodeck.
Other game players HATE that.
Yes, life is a holodeck dreaming that it is not.
Consciousness exists, physical universe is pure hallucination
including the brain. All physical objects are symbols for something
actual going on in the spiritual world. Cause is thus in the spiritual
world, and not the physical world which is a dream rendition.
The 'why' exceeds most people's imagination, mainly because creator
mode is somewhat alien to creature mode, and what is virtue for the
creator is not necessarily virtue for the creature and visa versa.
A 'good' Author will create 'good' stories consisting of good and
bad people. A story with only good people in it, would be boring to the
point of self termination.
Yet if a character were caught creating bad people, he would be
drawn and quartered. Kind of the way most people feel about God.
It's not OK for someone to have done this thing to someone else,
but it is OK to have done it to yourself.
Thus goodness in an Author and goodness in a character are not the
same thing.
Characters in fact fear authors for just that reason, they worry
about being part of a 'good' story, sometimes the good die young.
But the good also live forever, and in the end, because no one
judges anyone but one's self, only the good end up in hell for a while,
because only the good feel guilty.
So its an interesting world out there, much more interesting than
our parents taught us.
CLEAR
Clearing has to do with aberration.
The primary source of aberration is carrying around a time track,
which is a spiritual facsimile recording of everything that one has
done, and experienced.
The problem with the time track is it records the FORCE which
impinged on the being at the time of the recording and the pain and
unconsciousness. Thus when the being reactivates a recorded incident on
the time track, the recorded incident can FORCE the being along, with
pain and unconsciousness to do, think, feel or say something.
The time track itself is a fair chosen creation, it had its
purposes at the time, perhaps to control the being during times of
extreme danger when the analytical mind could not think clearly.
But the utter idiocy of the thinking that takes place when the time
track is commanding the being is far worse, and has ended everyone up in
the soup they presently find themselves in today.
It's all fair chosen with the twinkling of an eye, but its a long
slippery slope getting here, so you won't find a single moment of
responsibility for the entire mess, but many of them.
A time track is a recording of everything that has happened to one,
particularly moments of pain and unconsciousness.
The moments can restimulate during similar dangers in present time,
and when they do, they offer to the being 'solutions' to his present
predicament. These solutions are taken from the winning valence in the
past incidents that are in restimulation.
Somewhere in the past you are bugging someone, and they hit you
over the head with a stone and kill you. They are the winning valence
in the recording.
Sometime in the future, someone is bugging you, and the past
incident comes over you and almost MAKES you pick up a baseball bat and
knock the brains out of the other. There is a moment of choice in there
though, when the present being thinks 'well this looks like a good
idea', WHAPP!
More often in civilized society these things happen at the level of
words and emotions, which similar results.
Maybe words can't kill, but they can kill a relationship.
Regret however CAN kill.
Such events are often regretted, and thus the being loses faith in
his own ability to deal and stay cool, and he doesn't understand anymore
that he is getting long ago solicited 'help' from his time track,
because his time track is buried in unconsciousness and pain which only
reaches out to 'help' him determine what to do under moments of extreme
stress and danger.
At some point in the child's life, the continuous stress of living
around other aberrated people will result in the child CHOOSING an
incident in which he lost or was hurt, and begin to 'wear' that incident
full time.
Such incidents usually have a golden ally then them, someone who
defended the being during the original recording, against the contra
survival forces doing the child in.
So you get the hero, villan, victim triangle, where the being was a
victim, the golden ally was the hero, and the villan was the bad guy.
Father is beating up on child for spilling milk, mother is trying
to fend him off...
Mother is sticking knitting needle through fetus to abort it, and
aunt rushes in to stop her.
Psychiatrists are giving mother electric shock treatment while
unknowingly pregnant with early fetus. Spirits move in to protect the
fetus from the waves of electricity.
Sometimes a person can be his own golden ally from a past life.
Pregnant mother is trying to commit suicide by hanging, her father
rushes in and stops her. She has baby, father dies of old age on same
day, he comes back and takes over new baby body. Baby grows up haunted
that he will never find his one true friend that he has been looking for
all his life. It's him from his immediate past life.
Normally when such a sympathy incident comes into play, the present
time being will choose the valence of the winning villan, but if that
doesn't work well, he will choose his OWN valence of being a chronic
victim in order to entice others to become the golden ally again in
present time.
His computation is if he could just be the way he was when he was
last defended by the ally, the ally will materialize and come to defend
him again, or he might get someone else of similar sensitivity to
surrogate for the original ally.
At first it works, then it doesn't, then the guy is stuck with the
incident in chronic restim, because he has failed to confess the ploy.
And since the incident contains numbness and unconsciousness, he
won't remember either the incident when it first occurred, or the choice
to use it, let alone the choice to forget about it later.
Thus you have your work cut out for you when trying to clear a
human being.
Being unclear says nothing about whether one is an OT or not, all
uncleared beings have a time track, and that time track will 'help' them
whether the OT is in creator mode or creature mode.
An aberrated creator mode being can be a real liability to have
around, for he starts to write BAD stories, rather than GOOD stories.
However enough lift up into the top layers of creator mode will
raise the being above his time track where he can work with it directly
unaffected by it.
Word clear the above until you understand the difference:
Good story, bad story
Good character, bad character.
When clearing a being you need to get at the first moment of
murderous intention, anger and no sympathy, That's his worst valence,
and its source will be found to be in his most detested part of his time
track, the part that most never happened. If he is aware of it, it
ain't it.
If he keeps his NO INCIDENT in place in present time he will
feel fine but tend to dramatize murdering things once in a while.
If he begins to wonder what's up with the blood trail, and
starts into SOME INCIDENT, somatics will turn on that will murder him.
He is in a moment of BEING murdered, so when he flips back into
valence he feels like he is dying.
Run "Who or what are you still trying to murder, kill or destroy."
Or get him back to creating NO INCIDENT.
That will chill out the somatics real fast without knowing anything
about the incident.
He lost his class during that one, no more Mr. Nice guy, no more
friends with the universe, no more you are my brother, nope, your skin
will wear nicely draped on my wife's back.
But mixed in with all that murderous intention is regret, sometimes
he murders the wrong guy, some times the sad eyes of his victim really
get to him, you can feel sorry for anyone if they are doing bad enough,
and eventually he forms a murderous intention towards himself and his
own murderous intentions.
Then you got an unauditable ball of mental mass, the guy is at odds
with himself.
To BE or not to BE?
To KILL or not to KILL?
To KILL *AND* not to KILL?
As long as he is stuck in an indecision on these matters, he will
be spiraling downward in life.
This state kind of parks him as an OT in the creature mode, because
he dares not have any power that could be used to harm anything or write
further bad stories.
Thus it is generally considered that a person needs to be cleared
first before one can work on getting them back into Author mode again in
order to better design their life's game.
Of course there is so much bad that comes from the aberrations of
being unclear, that just getting cleared will improve all but the most
crazy OT's life.
But crazy or not, once cleared, any OT can start rewriting better
stories for himself and his game mates, even stories in the wild beyond,
the undreamed dream come true.
So charge the guy at least $100/hour to get him out of his ball of
mass, BUT GET HIM OUT OF IT. Don't pansy around with this stuff, or he
will one day start to target you.
The greatest danger of auditing a murderer or worse someone who has
been murdered, is getting murdered, and that's everyone.
No one has a track free of murder, and everyone has wished murder
off on so many others during this and other lifetimes he can't remember
it any more, and attempted murder counts as murder.
So we all have some clearing to do.
Homer
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Homer Wilson Smith The Paths of Lovers Art Matrix - Lightlink
(607) 277-0959 KC2ITF Cross Internet Access, Ithaca NY
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Thu Apr 17 20:11:38 EDT 2008
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