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YOU
OK, let's start at the beginning.
You are a conscious unit.
Consciousness is defined by the facility of perfect certainty.
A perfect certainty can not be wrong.
If you can be perfectly certain of anything, you are conscious.
If you are conscious, you can be perfectly certain of that.
You can be perfectly certain that something exists, because at
least part of that something is you.
You are not a meat body.
You are not a brain.
You are not a process in a brain, and you are not an emanation from
a process in a brain.
You wonder if you exist, but you are just sure your brain exists.
Who or what is it that is sure their brain exists?
And this is a false certainty any how.
This doesn't mean you are sure your brain doesn't exist, it means
it is certain you can never be certain whether your brain exists or not.
At least not until you exteriorize from space and time, and see
that the dream of temporality arises from the actuality of eternality.
In your present state, you can't even be perfectly certain whether
you are asleep or awake, as both are merely different levels of
dreamtime.
But you do know you are dreaming without doubt.
And you know you doubt.
Once you know you are dreaming along with the rest of everyone
else, you can then take or leave your brain alone, as it is a dream
brain, and serves the same function as any other dream machine in the
virtual reality of space and time.
The truth is, being fully awake, is being sound asleep in the arms
of eternity, the eternal peace that passeth all understanding.
And dreamtime is tooling around thinking you are awake in the
virtual reality of space and time.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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TRUTH IS WHAT IT IS
ACW said:
> "Truth is what it is - - not what you want it to be."
I disagree.
What you have is what you wanted and still want.
What you wanted was a sack of lies, and so it is, exactly as you
wanted it. It persists because you are out of contact with your
original creating desire to have it.
That too is by desire.
Once one finds out the truth, the real and final eternal truth, one
will want that too, as there cannot ever be anything but perfect
alignment between desire and truth.
Thus auditing someone in the direction of an unwanted truth is a
high crime.
Homer
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TRUTH IS WHAT IT IS
ACW said:
> "Truth is what it is - - not what you want it to be."
I disagree.
What you have is what you wanted and still want.
What you wanted was a sack of lies, and so it is, exactly as you
wanted it. It persists because you are out of contact with your
original creating desire to have it.
That too is by desire.
Once one finds out the truth, the real and final eternal truth, one
will want that too, as there cannot ever be anything but perfect
alignment between desire and truth.
Thus auditing someone in the direction of an unwanted truth is a
high crime.
Homer
Sun Dec 9 22:07:11 EST 2007
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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DISCOVERY AND RECOVERY
I think part of the problem is meatballs live in a world view where
we are born of nothing and evolved, and thus there is no prior knowledge
of anything important forgotten.
Looking down their memory track they expect to see nothing because
they were nothing a while back.
Thus if someone can move the marble, it becomes a *DISCOVERY*,
rather than a *RECOVERY*. Thus of course one would want to shout eureka
to the world and let everyone know.
This doesn't mean the need for a prime directive wouldn't swiftly
form around the ability, but it does mean there is no PRIOR prime
directive hiding those powers in the first place.
Thus it is counter intuitive to the meatball to audit the power
protocol rundown, because he can't imagine that PRIOR violations of
protocol and maybe even the protocols themselves lead to no power.
He also can't imagine that power itself is being used to limit
power.
As long as people are in discovery mode about spiritual abiilties,
they pretty much don't stand a chance, as their responsibility for not
having powers is nill.
Learning by looking is a trap when it comes to spiritual matters.
Homer
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Pip wrote:
> Unless one can grasp the idea of the world being a dream, the Prime
> Directive is just another wacky idea in a preposterous world view. But
> if you understand games, you understand mutually agreed upon rules and
> how they are enforced. No matter how far reaching or complex the game
> may be, it's really that simple. No rules, or no enforcement, = no
> game. The only proof is to see it for yourself. I saw it for myself.
> All proof is inside, not outside. Most people won't look - they suffer
> from the fatal disease of "I already know everything". Actually that's
> for protection; looking can be terrifying. It's easier to stay in the
> comfort zone. A lot of talk happens in the comfort zone. It's filled
> with opinions.
>
> Pip
>
> PS: The prime directive rule does have some loopholes apparently.
>
> homer@lightlink.com wrote:
>
>> In article <5e3c880a-e6f1-4c48-bde5-82e741b5c62d@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com> you wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Prime directive stuff is a cop out obviously. Who, when, where and
>>> why, and for how long?
>>>
>>> Again none of the pertinent information is ever supplied. Pearls
>>> before swine, and the besmirching
>>> of sacremental texts or wisdoms whatever could it possibly be.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Actually this is wrong.
>>
>> The prime directive is very simple, if someone wants some
>> ability, you may provide him with time and effort to help HIM
>> get the ability, and you may provide him with the processes to
>> look over before you run them on him if necessary, but you may not
>> demonstrate that YOU have the ability to him before he has it himself.
>>
>> Hardly a cop out.
>>
>> Homer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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DISCOVERY AND RECOVERY
I think part of the problem is meatballs live in a world view where
we are born of nothing and evolved, and thus there is no prior knowledge
of anything important forgotten.
Looking down their memory track they expect to see nothing because
they were nothing a while back.
Thus if someone can move the marble, it becomes a *DISCOVERY*,
rather than a *RECOVERY*. Thus of course one would want to shout eureka
to the world and let everyone know.
This doesn't mean the need for a prime directive wouldn't swiftly
form around the ability, but it does mean there is no PRIOR prime
directive hiding those powers in the first place.
Thus it is counter intuitive to the meatball to audit the power
protocol rundown, because he can't imagine that PRIOR violations of
protocol and maybe even the protocols themselves lead to no power.
He also can't imagine that power itself is being used to limit
power.
As long as people are in discovery mode about spiritual abiilties,
they pretty much don't stand a chance, as their responsibility for not
having powers is nill.
Learning by looking is a trap when it comes to spiritual matters.
Homer
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010, Pip wrote:
> Unless one can grasp the idea of the world being a dream, the Prime
> Directive is just another wacky idea in a preposterous world view. But
> if you understand games, you understand mutually agreed upon rules and
> how they are enforced. No matter how far reaching or complex the game
> may be, it's really that simple. No rules, or no enforcement, = no
> game. The only proof is to see it for yourself. I saw it for myself.
> All proof is inside, not outside. Most people won't look - they suffer
> from the fatal disease of "I already know everything". Actually that's
> for protection; looking can be terrifying. It's easier to stay in the
> comfort zone. A lot of talk happens in the comfort zone. It's filled
> with opinions.
>
> Pip
>
> PS: The prime directive rule does have some loopholes apparently.
>
> homer@lightlink.com wrote:
>
>> In article <5e3c880a-e6f1-4c48-bde5-82e741b5c62d@e34g2000prn.googlegroups.com> you wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Prime directive stuff is a cop out obviously. Who, when, where and
>>> why, and for how long?
>>>
>>> Again none of the pertinent information is ever supplied. Pearls
>>> before swine, and the besmirching
>>> of sacremental texts or wisdoms whatever could it possibly be.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Actually this is wrong.
>>
>> The prime directive is very simple, if someone wants some
>> ability, you may provide him with time and effort to help HIM
>> get the ability, and you may provide him with the processes to
>> look over before you run them on him if necessary, but you may not
>> demonstrate that YOU have the ability to him before he has it himself.
>>
>> Hardly a cop out.
>>
>> Homer
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Curiosus (curiosus@fastmail.fm) wrote:
>Homer wrote:
>> The stronger claim, with a relatively clear view of the top, can
>> then derive workable techology through theory alone, as it has some
>> idea of where the being has been, where it is and where it is going.
>> The theory can fail on those who don't have the stomach yet for
>> the truth, so they end up squirreling anyhow.
>> Most religions that CLAIM to be stronger claim religions are
>> actually lies invented to keep the being down, so stronger claim
>> religions tend to get a bad name.
>How are religions forming their strong claims?
Yes, models which are based on being and effect, lies.
Religions FABRICATE their top level views based on diametric
opposition to God and Soul are One.
They teach that God made Soul, that God made the universe, that
God put the soul in the universe, that God approves or does not
approve of the soul etc. All of which teach separation of God and
Soul.
They promise in heaven the soul will be with God again, but
that's still separation compared to God and Soul are One.
God did not choose, the soul chose.
God is the underlying mechanism by which the soul can choose.
NOTHING is created that a soul did not choose.
Its is real easy to write a devil spew religion and spread it
around. People suck it up because they know THEY didn't choose, and
they hope someone big who did choose will wreak justice on the evil who
are causing everyone so much trouble.
That's a forever separation of the High-US from parts of itself.
It's sick as sick comes.
>God is the Heavenly father, Mary the Earthly mother, and Jesus the Son
>who participates from both the Heavens and Earth. Jesus died as he was
>bound to Earth, but He resurrected as He was also a divine being. That
>is also the model Earth/Sky, the two main visible items for a man in
>raw nature here on Earth.
But God the father loves his children SO MUCH that he won't
interfere or discipline when one child beats up on another child. Any
human father acting this way would end up in jail for child abuse.
Further the bad children are then punished FOREVER at the end of
their lives for the sins of 4 score and 20, with no hope of
rehabilitation.
There is no sicker religion on the planet than Christianity.
You will find more love in a Nazi concentration camp.
>Scientology is using the model of World War II. The thetans' home
>planets were invaded by invaders from outer space, like European
>countries were invaded by Hitler. Then men were held captive on Earth
>by extraterrestrial entities, like Jewish inmates were held captive in
>concentration camps by the Third Reich. Xenu had the purpose to commit
>a genocide and burned the bodies, like Hitler. The main suppressive
>persons on the time track are psychiatrists, like in concentration
>camps. In the end Hubbard was wearing a World War II uniform, had ships
>regulated by military policies, had his own army, the Sea Org, and his
>own intelligence service, the Guardian Office or OSA. In the novel
>"Battlefield Earth", the main extraterrestrial SP is Terl, but that is
>explained in one of the chapters that Terl comes from Hitler. Hitler
>was for Hubbard the prototype of the SP until the end.
You have Hubbard's drama track confused with Scientology.
I suggest you stop doing this.
Scn has nothing to do with Xenu or anything that happened space
time.
>When we have to explain something new, the first thing we do is to use
>old models, then we try to improve the models so that they explain
>better what is.
You apparently have zero clue what Scn is.
>I have more to say, but not enough time, so I shall span the reply over
>several days.
I would spend more time studying what Scn really is, rather
than posting your idiotic garbage.
You figure out birth yet?
Homer
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Curiosus (curiosus@fastmail.fm) wrote:
>Homer wrote:
>> The stronger claim, with a relatively clear view of the top, can
>> then derive workable techology through theory alone, as it has some
>> idea of where the being has been, where it is and where it is going.
>> The theory can fail on those who don't have the stomach yet for
>> the truth, so they end up squirreling anyhow.
>> Most religions that CLAIM to be stronger claim religions are
>> actually lies invented to keep the being down, so stronger claim
>> religions tend to get a bad name.
>How are religions forming their strong claims?
Yes, models which are based on being and effect, lies.
Religions FABRICATE their top level views based on diametric
opposition to God and Soul are One.
They teach that God made Soul, that God made the universe, that
God put the soul in the universe, that God approves or does not
approve of the soul etc. All of which teach separation of God and
Soul.
They promise in heaven the soul will be with God again, but
that's still separation compared to God and Soul are One.
God did not choose, the soul chose.
God is the underlying mechanism by which the soul can choose.
NOTHING is created that a soul did not choose.
Its is real easy to write a devil spew religion and spread it
around. People suck it up because they know THEY didn't choose, and
they hope someone big who did choose will wreak justice on the evil who
are causing everyone so much trouble.
That's a forever separation of the High-US from parts of itself.
It's sick as sick comes.
>God is the Heavenly father, Mary the Earthly mother, and Jesus the Son
>who participates from both the Heavens and Earth. Jesus died as he was
>bound to Earth, but He resurrected as He was also a divine being. That
>is also the model Earth/Sky, the two main visible items for a man in
>raw nature here on Earth.
But God the father loves his children SO MUCH that he won't
interfere or discipline when one child beats up on another child. Any
human father acting this way would end up in jail for child abuse.
Further the bad children are then punished FOREVER at the end of
their lives for the sins of 4 score and 20, with no hope of
rehabilitation.
There is no sicker religion on the planet than Christianity.
You will find more love in a Nazi concentration camp.
>Scientology is using the model of World War II. The thetans' home
>planets were invaded by invaders from outer space, like European
>countries were invaded by Hitler. Then men were held captive on Earth
>by extraterrestrial entities, like Jewish inmates were held captive in
>concentration camps by the Third Reich. Xenu had the purpose to commit
>a genocide and burned the bodies, like Hitler. The main suppressive
>persons on the time track are psychiatrists, like in concentration
>camps. In the end Hubbard was wearing a World War II uniform, had ships
>regulated by military policies, had his own army, the Sea Org, and his
>own intelligence service, the Guardian Office or OSA. In the novel
>"Battlefield Earth", the main extraterrestrial SP is Terl, but that is
>explained in one of the chapters that Terl comes from Hitler. Hitler
>was for Hubbard the prototype of the SP until the end.
You have Hubbard's drama track confused with Scientology.
I suggest you stop doing this.
Scn has nothing to do with Xenu or anything that happened space
time.
>When we have to explain something new, the first thing we do is to use
>old models, then we try to improve the models so that they explain
>better what is.
You apparently have zero clue what Scn is.
>I have more to say, but not enough time, so I shall span the reply over
>several days.
I would spend more time studying what Scn really is, rather
than posting your idiotic garbage.
You figure out birth yet?
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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THE COWBOY AND THE HORSE
Science is 10 percent truth and 90 percent institutionalized
idiocy.
Don't get me wrong, I am not waving a flag for religion here, most
religion is 0 percent truth and 100 percent institutionalized idiocy.
I AM trying to build a bridge between religion and science here,
but I bear little love for either.
Religion keeps claiming that the world is going to be destroyed,
and science keeps trying to provide it the means to do so.
Both have a long ways to go before they are ready for prime time in
a civilized society.
By institutionalized I mean these things aren't merely the private
thoughts of lunatics in happy houses, but are written in solid rock into
our very way of life, our halls of business, science, government and
education.
You go to Church and they teach you God is love, fear of God is the
beginning of wisdom and fear of hell is the beginning of love.
"Love me or I will torture you to death, er well, forever!" - God
You go to school and they teach you that you are a body, that
consciousness is a process in the brain, and that force and pain are the
same thing, that pain is just mass in motion, that a computer that says
'OUCH!' when you hit the 'P for pain' key actually hurts or gives a
damn.
They teach you that God created space and time, but fail to admit
that before space and time was created they didn't exist, and thus in
the beginning God must have been zero dimensional.
They also fail to point out that if God is fundamentally zero
dimensional AND CONSCIOUS, and he creates a space and time dimensional
world full of beings who are also conscious, how likely is it that the
human's consciousness is a multi dimensional space time gizmo, and God's
consciousness is an eternal zero dimensional static?
Thus they fail to notice that human consciousness is also zero
dimensional and fail to study the possible ramifications.
They teach that God created the Soul, that God and Soul are two
separate objects, but they fail to mention that two separate objects can
never know about each other with perfect certainty, thus each remains
forever a THEORY to the other.
So how the hell is the Soul going to find God, if God can't even
find the Soul!
They teach you that Goober was the one and only Son of God
incarnated in the flesh for our sins, but fail to mention that all of
life is God in carnation that flesh and stone alike are avatars for God
to represent and convey himself through other conscious units who are
also God in carnation.
The idea is NEVER mentioned that God is a Multi Being, a multi I-AM
being, and each conscious unit is one of those I-AM's and is a full and
complete instantiation of the Infinite.
In otherwords existence is comprised of an infinite number of
infinite minds playing finite creature in the self created dream of
space and time.
The artificial unintelligence people tell you that if they can just
make the self aware circuit in the machine fast enough, they can create
a mechanical analogue of self awareness.
They fail to admit that an analogue is not the same thing as the
real thing and that no machine can ever know word one about the NOW only
the THEN, let alone glow in the dark of the void with spaceless timeless
self luminousness self awareness.
No where do they teach you about self luminous redness, and if you
ask them 'Why do I see red?' they talk about photons and frequency
absorption, and lenses and retinas and visual cortexes, then it gets
vague you see, for except for blood, there is no red in the brain.
If you ask about direct perception, they will say there is no such
thing as direct perception, that direct perception is logically
impossible, everything HAS to learn via indirect perception, learning
about A by looking at B, namely the effects in one's self of the causal
influences of A on self.
If you ask "How do I see red?" they will answer that consciousness
is nothing, just your brain's interpretation of the physical universe,
when in fact the physical universe is an interpretation of what you see
in your consciousness.
You see they tell you that the physical universe is something, and
your consciousness of it is nothing of its own, just a mere process in
the physical universe brain suffering delusions of self existence,
awareness and person agency.
They will tell you that the physical universe and everything in it
is just dominos falling, knocking each other down in perfect
mathematical clockwork. Dominos fall because of force not because of
pain. Pain is merely an inward sign, a vanity, in the domino that it
has been forced to fall. The FALLING would all take place just as it is
even if the pain did not exist.
To the meatball apologists, pain is an unnecessary adjunct to our
existence, because nothing physical can feel pain, and force and mass
alone are sufficient to cause survival as any mechanical robot can
attest.
Force and mass explains everything. That some forces hurt and
other's don't, is just not part of their equation.
THEN they fail to mention that just because you see space, doesn't
mean here IS space. The universe could be a dream, imagination,
hallucination, or another form of arcade game controlled by a source
that creates conscious renditions of objects in space and time directly.
They fail to mention that if time were actual, no machine could
ever tell if time was taking place, because a machine can't tell if it
has changed state.
Just as certainty of space implies space is an illusion, certainty
of time implies that time is an illusion.
If you ask "Where is the red? If I cut the brain open will I find
any red there?" they will answer of course you will, if you cut the
brain open there will be blood all over the place!
And in the end they will claim that "Love and shame can of force
and mass be made," and we have a circuit here that will act just like
love and shame. They fail to admit that outward actions do not prove
inward feeling. Two different objects can never prove each other's
existence.
If you ever asserted anything otherwise, those in the halls of
academentia will cry 'Prove it, the extraordinary claim suffers the
burden of proof.'
Oh man are they whistling past the graveyard and hope you don't
notice it.
Their theses are at risk, best used for cat litter.
It is tempting to just let them all rot in their hell where they
belong, but the desire to prove the SP wrong is just so delicious.
SP means Suppressive Person or Parent.
So one day you are out rounding up cow doggies on your horse, doing
what cowboys do, having a good old time.
And this wizened old psychiatric zombie lord in a white coat comes
up to you with pen and tablet in hand, and a pocket full of pills, and
says "You know buddy, you think you are a cowboy on a horse, but the
truth is you are just a horse!"
So you say, "Oh? So how come I can get off my horse, let it out to
pasture, and go play with your wife in the meantime."
The psych says "What do you mean get off your horse, that is
delusional, you need Horszack to calm you down, (and some crazy glue on
the seat of your pants to make sure you don't leave your saddle again!)"
You say 'Oh bananas to you, just because you think you are a horse
doesn't mean I am a horse, I am a cowboy, been one for years, and me and
my horse are good friends and, oh by the way, TWO DIFFERENT OBJECTS!"
You see the cowboy had been going to cowboy school where they teach
these things.
The psych says "Oh yeah, well prove it, the extraordinary claim
bears the burden of proof!"
You say "Extraordinary claim? The extraordinary claim is that I am
a horse and not a cowboy on a horse, who are you fooling? Why don't YOU
prove to me that I am a horse."
The psych says "OK, you asked for it", and calls over his gang of
hooligans to administer the proof, electric shock.
Apparently they believe that if you shock the horse enough the
cowboy on the horse will start to think he IS the horse too.
Talk about doing a life continuum.
The psych thinks he can prove anything with force.
FORCE PROVES NOTHING, not even its own existence to the forced, let
alone source of the force.
And then the psych proceeds to fois-gras you with a funnel and his
pocket full of pills.
Finally you admit you are a horse, never were a cowboy, just to get
the psych to go away, but that crazy glue, that remains a problem,
because now you can't get off the horse any more.
Is that a problem in inability to get off the horse or
unwillingness to get off the horse?
Homer
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THE COWBOY AND THE HORSE
Science is 10 percent truth and 90 percent institutionalized
idiocy.
Don't get me wrong, I am not waving a flag for religion here, most
religion is 0 percent truth and 100 percent institutionalized idiocy.
I AM trying to build a bridge between religion and science here,
but I bear little love for either.
Religion keeps claiming that the world is going to be destroyed,
and science keeps trying to provide it the means to do so.
Both have a long ways to go before they are ready for prime time in
a civilized society.
By institutionalized I mean these things aren't merely the private
thoughts of lunatics in happy houses, but are written in solid rock into
our very way of life, our halls of business, science, government and
education.
You go to Church and they teach you God is love, fear of God is the
beginning of wisdom and fear of hell is the beginning of love.
"Love me or I will torture you to death, er well, forever!" - God
You go to school and they teach you that you are a body, that
consciousness is a process in the brain, and that force and pain are the
same thing, that pain is just mass in motion, that a computer that says
'OUCH!' when you hit the 'P for pain' key actually hurts or gives a
damn.
They teach you that God created space and time, but fail to admit
that before space and time was created they didn't exist, and thus in
the beginning God must have been zero dimensional.
They also fail to point out that if God is fundamentally zero
dimensional AND CONSCIOUS, and he creates a space and time dimensional
world full of beings who are also conscious, how likely is it that the
human's consciousness is a multi dimensional space time gizmo, and God's
consciousness is an eternal zero dimensional static?
Thus they fail to notice that human consciousness is also zero
dimensional and fail to study the possible ramifications.
They teach that God created the Soul, that God and Soul are two
separate objects, but they fail to mention that two separate objects can
never know about each other with perfect certainty, thus each remains
forever a THEORY to the other.
So how the hell is the Soul going to find God, if God can't even
find the Soul!
They teach you that Goober was the one and only Son of God
incarnated in the flesh for our sins, but fail to mention that all of
life is God in carnation that flesh and stone alike are avatars for God
to represent and convey himself through other conscious units who are
also God in carnation.
The idea is NEVER mentioned that God is a Multi Being, a multi I-AM
being, and each conscious unit is one of those I-AM's and is a full and
complete instantiation of the Infinite.
In otherwords existence is comprised of an infinite number of
infinite minds playing finite creature in the self created dream of
space and time.
The artificial unintelligence people tell you that if they can just
make the self aware circuit in the machine fast enough, they can create
a mechanical analogue of self awareness.
They fail to admit that an analogue is not the same thing as the
real thing and that no machine can ever know word one about the NOW only
the THEN, let alone glow in the dark of the void with spaceless timeless
self luminousness self awareness.
No where do they teach you about self luminous redness, and if you
ask them 'Why do I see red?' they talk about photons and frequency
absorption, and lenses and retinas and visual cortexes, then it gets
vague you see, for except for blood, there is no red in the brain.
If you ask about direct perception, they will say there is no such
thing as direct perception, that direct perception is logically
impossible, everything HAS to learn via indirect perception, learning
about A by looking at B, namely the effects in one's self of the causal
influences of A on self.
If you ask "How do I see red?" they will answer that consciousness
is nothing, just your brain's interpretation of the physical universe,
when in fact the physical universe is an interpretation of what you see
in your consciousness.
You see they tell you that the physical universe is something, and
your consciousness of it is nothing of its own, just a mere process in
the physical universe brain suffering delusions of self existence,
awareness and person agency.
They will tell you that the physical universe and everything in it
is just dominos falling, knocking each other down in perfect
mathematical clockwork. Dominos fall because of force not because of
pain. Pain is merely an inward sign, a vanity, in the domino that it
has been forced to fall. The FALLING would all take place just as it is
even if the pain did not exist.
To the meatball apologists, pain is an unnecessary adjunct to our
existence, because nothing physical can feel pain, and force and mass
alone are sufficient to cause survival as any mechanical robot can
attest.
Force and mass explains everything. That some forces hurt and
other's don't, is just not part of their equation.
THEN they fail to mention that just because you see space, doesn't
mean here IS space. The universe could be a dream, imagination,
hallucination, or another form of arcade game controlled by a source
that creates conscious renditions of objects in space and time directly.
They fail to mention that if time were actual, no machine could
ever tell if time was taking place, because a machine can't tell if it
has changed state.
Just as certainty of space implies space is an illusion, certainty
of time implies that time is an illusion.
If you ask "Where is the red? If I cut the brain open will I find
any red there?" they will answer of course you will, if you cut the
brain open there will be blood all over the place!
And in the end they will claim that "Love and shame can of force
and mass be made," and we have a circuit here that will act just like
love and shame. They fail to admit that outward actions do not prove
inward feeling. Two different objects can never prove each other's
existence.
If you ever asserted anything otherwise, those in the halls of
academentia will cry 'Prove it, the extraordinary claim suffers the
burden of proof.'
Oh man are they whistling past the graveyard and hope you don't
notice it.
Their theses are at risk, best used for cat litter.
It is tempting to just let them all rot in their hell where they
belong, but the desire to prove the SP wrong is just so delicious.
SP means Suppressive Person or Parent.
So one day you are out rounding up cow doggies on your horse, doing
what cowboys do, having a good old time.
And this wizened old psychiatric zombie lord in a white coat comes
up to you with pen and tablet in hand, and a pocket full of pills, and
says "You know buddy, you think you are a cowboy on a horse, but the
truth is you are just a horse!"
So you say, "Oh? So how come I can get off my horse, let it out to
pasture, and go play with your wife in the meantime."
The psych says "What do you mean get off your horse, that is
delusional, you need Horszack to calm you down, (and some crazy glue on
the seat of your pants to make sure you don't leave your saddle again!)"
You say 'Oh bananas to you, just because you think you are a horse
doesn't mean I am a horse, I am a cowboy, been one for years, and me and
my horse are good friends and, oh by the way, TWO DIFFERENT OBJECTS!"
You see the cowboy had been going to cowboy school where they teach
these things.
The psych says "Oh yeah, well prove it, the extraordinary claim
bears the burden of proof!"
You say "Extraordinary claim? The extraordinary claim is that I am
a horse and not a cowboy on a horse, who are you fooling? Why don't YOU
prove to me that I am a horse."
The psych says "OK, you asked for it", and calls over his gang of
hooligans to administer the proof, electric shock.
Apparently they believe that if you shock the horse enough the
cowboy on the horse will start to think he IS the horse too.
Talk about doing a life continuum.
The psych thinks he can prove anything with force.
FORCE PROVES NOTHING, not even its own existence to the forced, let
alone source of the force.
And then the psych proceeds to fois-gras you with a funnel and his
pocket full of pills.
Finally you admit you are a horse, never were a cowboy, just to get
the psych to go away, but that crazy glue, that remains a problem,
because now you can't get off the horse any more.
Is that a problem in inability to get off the horse or
unwillingness to get off the horse?
Homer
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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HACKERS AND THE LAW
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HACKERS AND THE LAW
There is the law of the sky which tells us what is right and wrong.
There is the law of the land, which tells us what is legal and
illegal.
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is right.
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it is wrong, and it
may in fact be mandatory according to the law of the sky.
Thus civil disobedience can be a morally mandated duty.
People who claim that something is right just because it is legal,
or that something is wrong just because it is illegal are hiding behind
the law.
We have a moral duty to do what is right first and what is legal
second.
God and Angel do hide behind the law.
When you get to the pearly gates, God won't be asking you if you
have done what was legal, he will be asking you if you have done what
was right.
HACKERS
There are three kinds of hackers.
White hat hackers obey the law of the land.
Grey hat hackers are willing to break the law of the land to
protect the law of the sky.
Black hat hackers break the law of the sky.
SOFTWARE
There are two kinds of software.
Proprietary and Open Source.
Proprietary code is secret and it is illegal to hack into it and
reverse engineer how it works.
Open Source code is public and it is legal to hack into it and
reverse engineer how it works.
All code has errors many of which provide security holes which are
dangerous to those using the software.
PROPRIETARY CODE
Black hat hackers will reverse engineer proprietary code, and if
they find a security flaw, they will keep it to themselves and exploit
it to their own benefit at the expense of others.
Gray hat hackers will also reverse engineer proprietary code, but
if they find a security flaw, they will inform the manufacturers of the
code and give them time to fix it. Then a certain reasonable time
later, they will also broadly publish the security flaw and how to
exploit it.
This pressures unethical or sleazy manufacturers to fix their code
rather than leave it broken for black hatters to find. When the Gray
hatters publish the security flaw the Black hatters get it also, but by
that time it should be fixed so they and no one else can do anything bad
with it.
Manufacturers of proprietary code dislike black hatters, but
dislike gray hatters more. The black hatters keep the security
flaws to themselves where only they can exploit them, or blackmail
the authors to not do so. Many code authors would jump at the
opportunity to keep a serious flaw quiet, even if they did fix it.
Gray hatters make the security code public after a fair amount of
time to force the manufacturers to fix it.
Some people think that gray hatters are those who alternate between
black hatters and white hatters. That's like shooting someone today and
not shooting someone tomorrow. That's not gray, that's psychotic.
White hat hackers will not touch proprietary code because it is
illegal to do so. If they consider they have a moral mandate to break
the law of the land to protect the law of the sky, they become, in that
moment of choice, gray hat hackers.
OPEN SOURCE CODE
All three kinds of hackers will review and vet open source code for
security flaws, and use them for their own purposes.
Black hatters will use the security flaws they find to benefit at
other's expense which is a violation of the law of the land and the sky.
Grey hatters will disclose the security flaw first to the author of
the software to give them time to fix it, and then disclose it to the
general public to make sure it is "fixed and stay fixed or else."
White hat hackers will do the same as the gray hat hackers.
It might be tempting to say that the gray hatter should not
disclose the security bug publically but only privately to the software
author, particullarly if it is 'fixed', so that the annoyance of endless
script kiddies exploiting the code without any understanding themselves
can be avoided.
It's one thing to have a few highly intelligent black hatters
exploiting your code, it is quite another to have 10 million grade
school kids who know a little linux, posting the exploit along with
naked selfies to all their friends, exploiting it for fun from all over
the world.
You understand?
Script kiddies are the gray hatter's guarantee that the software
author will fix the flaw lest everyone and their blond girlfriend start
causing trouble with it.
And in any case, if a flaw is 'fixed' by the author and then kept
under wraps, the other gray and white hatters won't have an opportunity
to check out the corrected work, thus it may still be wrong, or related
to something near by that is also or more wrong.
No gray hatter wants to take the responsibility of personally
offering to guarantee that a serious bug is fixed, even if the original
author he informed says it is. So the flaw gets published publically.
Everyone else's vetting of the same code is the gray hatter's personal
guarantee that the code was almost assuredly fixed right.
Any hacker can think code is right when it is still wrong but
thousands of hackers are probably not wrong. Anyhow this kind of
guarantee, one, that code is fixed, and two, that code is fixed right,
is as good as it can get, so accept the process we must, even if we have
to suffer the relatively harmless slings and arrows of outrageous script
kiddies taking our system down from time to time, before the author
fixes it for good.
If the flaw is not fixed, and a black hatter finds it, then all
hell may loose. That will be the day that you will pray to God that the
script kiddies had done their job.
To publically publish or not to publish a security flaw is a moral
choice, and each hatter is responsible and accountable for the quality
of his conscience and the consequences of their actions.
PROPRIETARY vs OPEN SOURCE
Proprietary code provides security through obscurity, since the
code can not EASILY be reviewed by anyone interested, security flaws can
remain undiscovered for a very long time. When they are discovered, if
they are discovered by Black hatters, they can be exploited forever
until someone else discovers the same security flaw and is willing to
reveal it to the author.
Thus proprietary code often provides the illusion of security, all
the while the code may be infiltrated and infected at many installations
of importance, include national importance. If all of the security
flaws are hidden through obscurity, then all will be well until a black
hatter finds one anyhow.
Open Source codes does not have any security through obscurity,
because the day it is set in operation anyone and everyone who is
interested in security flaws, good or bad, will be combing through the
code trying to find flaws before anyone else.
The black hatters want the flaw so they can exploit it for a while,
to inure to their own benefit at the expense of everyone else.
The gray and white hatters want it so they can get it fixed quickly
and get a public gold star for their record. They love this, its an ego
thing. "I saved the world!"
Be grateful.
Thus when open source is first published, it tends to have a lot of
security updates resulting from global full time scrutiny by the hacker
community, but then it becomes rock solid and much safer to depend upon
than proprietary code ever will.
There are two main goals of the black hatters.
TO USE AND TO DESTROY.
The primary goal of black hatters is not necessarily to destroy the
system but to suck off of it, money or useful resellable data, for a
very long time, so they tend to use extreme stealth in their exploits.
They don't want anyone to know they are there, ever. They won't crash
your computer because their daily take stops flowing.
These are the criminal black hatters.
The other goal of some black hatters is to destroy the system
completely, these are the terrorist black hatters.
Terrorist black hatters want a public show of their presence,
usually for political or religious ends, rarely for money per se. They
have considered that their law of the sky has been so egregiously
violated by their target, that they are willing to violate the law of
the land to hack and destroy, even if little or no personal gain comes
to them, often at great personal risk.
It is tempting to call these kinds of terrorists cowards, we do so
because their moral mandate scares the hell out of us.
The black hatters who invade banking systems to siphon off free
money to themselves so they can live better are criminals, they have no
interest whatsoever in destroying the system or society. They are
parasites who know the importance of their host remaining alive and
feeling well. Their relationship with their targets is often symbiotic,
its just not agreed to by both sides.
The black hatters who invade banking systems to shut them all down
one day, are often on a suicide mission from on high, because should the
banking system or all power/food/transportation etc shut down the
results would be apocalyptic and harm the hacker himself along with
everyone else.
At that point the common man's only option would be to become real
religious real quick, apologize to the Lord, and wait for some kind of
rapture or something to take you up, because it will be fire and smoke
for everyone else down here on Earth for the rest of time.
You wouldn't recognize the next stable society that might arise.
CYBER WEAPONS OF MASS DESCRIPTION
Relative to any particular given country, most of the terrorist
black hatters are foreign to that country, and who have declared a
covert war against that particular country. Some black hatters will be
working within the targeted country as operatives behind enemy lines.
The governments of all countries are putting covert cyber weapons
of mass destruction (CWMD) into the computer's system of all other
countries, particularly their enemies but friends too, just in case they
are needed.
So now we have chemical, biological, atomic, genetic and cyber
weapons of mass destruction.
The purpose of infecting other nation's cyber infrastructure is to
create mass destruction or interruption to those computer systems if
needed. But since all of society depends on these computers at every
level of its existence, the mass destruction of computers means the mass
destruction of that society.
And of course each country is in turn be infected by the cyber WMD
of many other countries.
Except for America of course.
America doesn't have the weakness in its systems to be infected by
its enemies.
And America doesn't have the ethical paucity to stoop to such
shenanigans in return.
Not under the eternal vigilance of the American Flag.
For the rest, it is Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) all over
again, much worse than any nuclear war we could do.
But it all plays out the same way, "If you push your little red
cyber button, we will push ours in retaliation."
Until then let's hope a fan doesn't burn out and push the red
button for us.
And pray the Good Lord blows a UPS dead on those intending a
preemptive strike. UPS = uninterruptable power supply.
Most of the merely criminal black hatters should be rounded up and
put to work as gray hatters working for the world against the terrorist
black hatters working against the world.
Give them a jail cell if you wish, but give them access.
The jail cell merely becomes a bunker where they can work safely,
and perhaps redeem their sorry asses.
They will be needed.
Homer
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HACKERS AND THE LAW
There is the law of the sky which tells us what is right and wrong.
There is the law of the land, which tells us what is legal and
illegal.
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it is right.
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it is wrong, and it
may in fact be mandatory according to the law of the sky.
Thus civil disobedience can be a morally mandated duty.
People who claim that something is right just because it is legal,
or that something is wrong just because it is illegal are hiding behind
the law.
We have a moral duty to do what is right first and what is legal
second.
God and Angel do hide behind the law.
When you get to the pearly gates, God won't be asking you if you
have done what was legal, he will be asking you if you have done what
was right.
HACKERS
There are three kinds of hackers.
White hat hackers obey the law of the land.
Grey hat hackers are willing to break the law of the land to
protect the law of the sky.
Black hat hackers break the law of the sky.
SOFTWARE
There are two kinds of software.
Proprietary and Open Source.
Proprietary code is secret and it is illegal to hack into it and
reverse engineer how it works.
Open Source code is public and it is legal to hack into it and
reverse engineer how it works.
All code has errors many of which provide security holes which are
dangerous to those using the software.
PROPRIETARY CODE
Black hat hackers will reverse engineer proprietary code, and if
they find a security flaw, they will keep it to themselves and exploit
it to their own benefit at the expense of others.
Gray hat hackers will also reverse engineer proprietary code, but
if they find a security flaw, they will inform the manufacturers of the
code and give them time to fix it. Then a certain reasonable time
later, they will also broadly publish the security flaw and how to
exploit it.
This pressures unethical or sleazy manufacturers to fix their code
rather than leave it broken for black hatters to find. When the Gray
hatters publish the security flaw the Black hatters get it also, but by
that time it should be fixed so they and no one else can do anything bad
with it.
Manufacturers of proprietary code dislike black hatters, but
dislike gray hatters more. The black hatters keep the security
flaws to themselves where only they can exploit them, or blackmail
the authors to not do so. Many code authors would jump at the
opportunity to keep a serious flaw quiet, even if they did fix it.
Gray hatters make the security code public after a fair amount of
time to force the manufacturers to fix it.
Some people think that gray hatters are those who alternate between
black hatters and white hatters. That's like shooting someone today and
not shooting someone tomorrow. That's not gray, that's psychotic.
White hat hackers will not touch proprietary code because it is
illegal to do so. If they consider they have a moral mandate to break
the law of the land to protect the law of the sky, they become, in that
moment of choice, gray hat hackers.
OPEN SOURCE CODE
All three kinds of hackers will review and vet open source code for
security flaws, and use them for their own purposes.
Black hatters will use the security flaws they find to benefit at
other's expense which is a violation of the law of the land and the sky.
Grey hatters will disclose the security flaw first to the author of
the software to give them time to fix it, and then disclose it to the
general public to make sure it is "fixed and stay fixed or else."
White hat hackers will do the same as the gray hat hackers.
It might be tempting to say that the gray hatter should not
disclose the security bug publically but only privately to the software
author, particullarly if it is 'fixed', so that the annoyance of endless
script kiddies exploiting the code without any understanding themselves
can be avoided.
It's one thing to have a few highly intelligent black hatters
exploiting your code, it is quite another to have 10 million grade
school kids who know a little linux, posting the exploit along with
naked selfies to all their friends, exploiting it for fun from all over
the world.
You understand?
Script kiddies are the gray hatter's guarantee that the software
author will fix the flaw lest everyone and their blond girlfriend start
causing trouble with it.
And in any case, if a flaw is 'fixed' by the author and then kept
under wraps, the other gray and white hatters won't have an opportunity
to check out the corrected work, thus it may still be wrong, or related
to something near by that is also or more wrong.
No gray hatter wants to take the responsibility of personally
offering to guarantee that a serious bug is fixed, even if the original
author he informed says it is. So the flaw gets published publically.
Everyone else's vetting of the same code is the gray hatter's personal
guarantee that the code was almost assuredly fixed right.
Any hacker can think code is right when it is still wrong but
thousands of hackers are probably not wrong. Anyhow this kind of
guarantee, one, that code is fixed, and two, that code is fixed right,
is as good as it can get, so accept the process we must, even if we have
to suffer the relatively harmless slings and arrows of outrageous script
kiddies taking our system down from time to time, before the author
fixes it for good.
If the flaw is not fixed, and a black hatter finds it, then all
hell may loose. That will be the day that you will pray to God that the
script kiddies had done their job.
To publically publish or not to publish a security flaw is a moral
choice, and each hatter is responsible and accountable for the quality
of his conscience and the consequences of their actions.
PROPRIETARY vs OPEN SOURCE
Proprietary code provides security through obscurity, since the
code can not EASILY be reviewed by anyone interested, security flaws can
remain undiscovered for a very long time. When they are discovered, if
they are discovered by Black hatters, they can be exploited forever
until someone else discovers the same security flaw and is willing to
reveal it to the author.
Thus proprietary code often provides the illusion of security, all
the while the code may be infiltrated and infected at many installations
of importance, include national importance. If all of the security
flaws are hidden through obscurity, then all will be well until a black
hatter finds one anyhow.
Open Source codes does not have any security through obscurity,
because the day it is set in operation anyone and everyone who is
interested in security flaws, good or bad, will be combing through the
code trying to find flaws before anyone else.
The black hatters want the flaw so they can exploit it for a while,
to inure to their own benefit at the expense of everyone else.
The gray and white hatters want it so they can get it fixed quickly
and get a public gold star for their record. They love this, its an ego
thing. "I saved the world!"
Be grateful.
Thus when open source is first published, it tends to have a lot of
security updates resulting from global full time scrutiny by the hacker
community, but then it becomes rock solid and much safer to depend upon
than proprietary code ever will.
There are two main goals of the black hatters.
TO USE AND TO DESTROY.
The primary goal of black hatters is not necessarily to destroy the
system but to suck off of it, money or useful resellable data, for a
very long time, so they tend to use extreme stealth in their exploits.
They don't want anyone to know they are there, ever. They won't crash
your computer because their daily take stops flowing.
These are the criminal black hatters.
The other goal of some black hatters is to destroy the system
completely, these are the terrorist black hatters.
Terrorist black hatters want a public show of their presence,
usually for political or religious ends, rarely for money per se. They
have considered that their law of the sky has been so egregiously
violated by their target, that they are willing to violate the law of
the land to hack and destroy, even if little or no personal gain comes
to them, often at great personal risk.
It is tempting to call these kinds of terrorists cowards, we do so
because their moral mandate scares the hell out of us.
The black hatters who invade banking systems to siphon off free
money to themselves so they can live better are criminals, they have no
interest whatsoever in destroying the system or society. They are
parasites who know the importance of their host remaining alive and
feeling well. Their relationship with their targets is often symbiotic,
its just not agreed to by both sides.
The black hatters who invade banking systems to shut them all down
one day, are often on a suicide mission from on high, because should the
banking system or all power/food/transportation etc shut down the
results would be apocalyptic and harm the hacker himself along with
everyone else.
At that point the common man's only option would be to become real
religious real quick, apologize to the Lord, and wait for some kind of
rapture or something to take you up, because it will be fire and smoke
for everyone else down here on Earth for the rest of time.
You wouldn't recognize the next stable society that might arise.
CYBER WEAPONS OF MASS DESCRIPTION
Relative to any particular given country, most of the terrorist
black hatters are foreign to that country, and who have declared a
covert war against that particular country. Some black hatters will be
working within the targeted country as operatives behind enemy lines.
The governments of all countries are putting covert cyber weapons
of mass destruction (CWMD) into the computer's system of all other
countries, particularly their enemies but friends too, just in case they
are needed.
So now we have chemical, biological, atomic, genetic and cyber
weapons of mass destruction.
The purpose of infecting other nation's cyber infrastructure is to
create mass destruction or interruption to those computer systems if
needed. But since all of society depends on these computers at every
level of its existence, the mass destruction of computers means the mass
destruction of that society.
And of course each country is in turn be infected by the cyber WMD
of many other countries.
Except for America of course.
America doesn't have the weakness in its systems to be infected by
its enemies.
And America doesn't have the ethical paucity to stoop to such
shenanigans in return.
Not under the eternal vigilance of the American Flag.
For the rest, it is Mutual Assured Destruction (MAD) all over
again, much worse than any nuclear war we could do.
But it all plays out the same way, "If you push your little red
cyber button, we will push ours in retaliation."
Until then let's hope a fan doesn't burn out and push the red
button for us.
And pray the Good Lord blows a UPS dead on those intending a
preemptive strike. UPS = uninterruptable power supply.
Most of the merely criminal black hatters should be rounded up and
put to work as gray hatters working for the world against the terrorist
black hatters working against the world.
Give them a jail cell if you wish, but give them access.
The jail cell merely becomes a bunker where they can work safely,
and perhaps redeem their sorry asses.
They will be needed.
Homer
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THE SIMPLEST PROCESS
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A SIMPLEST PROCESS
The following can be run on anyone who is accessible and can
understand the concept of space in front of them, behind them, to the
left and right, and above and below them.
Kids will take to this like candy.
There are 8 commands which form a full circle, at which point the
preclear becomes the auditor and the auditor becomes the preclear.
The auditor and preclear swap roles every complete circle of
commands.
It is run in OK mode, meaning the auditor gives the command and then
remains silent until the preclear says OK. If the preclear never says OK,
the auditor may query the preclear with 'Something going on?' until he
does say OK, then the auditor may give the next command.
Except for the above, the auditor is forbidden to say anything except
give the command, and say Thank you after the preclear's OK.
In particular the auditor may not give solutions to problems
the preclear may bring up, nor add in any form of social chatter,
nor answer any case questions the preclear has.
Remember when the preclear asks a question and the auditor
answers, the preclear is out of session and trying to put the
auditor into session.
The auditor may handle any originations the preclear makes, including
allowing the preclear to handle immediate present time problems like
having to go to the bathroom. These handles must be in the direction of
getting the preclear back into session, interested in his own case and
willing to talk to the auditor, and not in the direction of anything else.
The auditor may however query the preclear if the auditor is not
clear on what the preclear said or meant in a communication. The
auditor strives at all times for 100 percent duplication, and the
auditor will know by his own stuck attention on a previous communication
that he has failed to get it clarified for himself.
Clarify existing communications before the preclear says OK,
clarify past communications after the preclear says OK on the present
command.
Its like never go by a misunderstood word, in this case its never go
by something the preclear says that is not fully understood.
The preclear may talk about anything he wants or nothing at all
before the OK, there is no requirement for the preclear to tell the
auditor anything, except the OK at the end of the command.
The auditor must not give the next command until he receives the OK
from the preclear. This removes the auditor from responsibility for
determining when the preclear is finished with his comm cycle.
The commands are run as "Get the idea of...". As such they do not
require remembering anything or describing anything, or saying anything
at all. However will bring up memories and data of interest which the
preclear will want to talk about, including cognitions.
The 8 commands are:
Auditor: Get the idea of the space in front of you.
Preclear: yak yak or not, OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: get the idea of the space behind you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space to the left of you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space to the right of you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space above you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space below you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Your turn!
Preclear: OK
The preclear now becomes the auditor and the auditor becomes the
preclear and they start at the top.
15 to 30 minutes of this will do wonders for both of them, benefits
will accrue during the days after the session, not during the session
itself which may have immediate wins of is own.
The original wording was:
Get the idea of your front space.
Get the idea of your back space.
Get the idea of your left space.
Get the idea of your right space.
Get the idea of your top space.
Get the idea of your bottom space.
Homer
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A SIMPLEST PROCESS
The following can be run on anyone who is accessible and can
understand the concept of space in front of them, behind them, to the
left and right, and above and below them.
Kids will take to this like candy.
There are 8 commands which form a full circle, at which point the
preclear becomes the auditor and the auditor becomes the preclear.
The auditor and preclear swap roles every complete circle of
commands.
It is run in OK mode, meaning the auditor gives the command and then
remains silent until the preclear says OK. If the preclear never says OK,
the auditor may query the preclear with 'Something going on?' until he
does say OK, then the auditor may give the next command.
Except for the above, the auditor is forbidden to say anything except
give the command, and say Thank you after the preclear's OK.
In particular the auditor may not give solutions to problems
the preclear may bring up, nor add in any form of social chatter,
nor answer any case questions the preclear has.
Remember when the preclear asks a question and the auditor
answers, the preclear is out of session and trying to put the
auditor into session.
The auditor may handle any originations the preclear makes, including
allowing the preclear to handle immediate present time problems like
having to go to the bathroom. These handles must be in the direction of
getting the preclear back into session, interested in his own case and
willing to talk to the auditor, and not in the direction of anything else.
The auditor may however query the preclear if the auditor is not
clear on what the preclear said or meant in a communication. The
auditor strives at all times for 100 percent duplication, and the
auditor will know by his own stuck attention on a previous communication
that he has failed to get it clarified for himself.
Clarify existing communications before the preclear says OK,
clarify past communications after the preclear says OK on the present
command.
Its like never go by a misunderstood word, in this case its never go
by something the preclear says that is not fully understood.
The preclear may talk about anything he wants or nothing at all
before the OK, there is no requirement for the preclear to tell the
auditor anything, except the OK at the end of the command.
The auditor must not give the next command until he receives the OK
from the preclear. This removes the auditor from responsibility for
determining when the preclear is finished with his comm cycle.
The commands are run as "Get the idea of...". As such they do not
require remembering anything or describing anything, or saying anything
at all. However will bring up memories and data of interest which the
preclear will want to talk about, including cognitions.
The 8 commands are:
Auditor: Get the idea of the space in front of you.
Preclear: yak yak or not, OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: get the idea of the space behind you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space to the left of you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space to the right of you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space above you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Get the idea of the space below you.
Preclear: OK
Auditor: Thank you.
Auditor: Your turn!
Preclear: OK
The preclear now becomes the auditor and the auditor becomes the
preclear and they start at the top.
15 to 30 minutes of this will do wonders for both of them, benefits
will accrue during the days after the session, not during the session
itself which may have immediate wins of is own.
The original wording was:
Get the idea of your front space.
Get the idea of your back space.
Get the idea of your left space.
Get the idea of your right space.
Get the idea of your top space.
Get the idea of your bottom space.
Homer
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(607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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