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INVITE and DISINVITE

> So who the hell are you, and what are you doing in my dream?

Co-resonant desire to play a game of magnitude connected by a generic
invite to all who want to play, and a unanimous agreement to play.

Psychosis and neurosis are mostly failed disinvites, and refusal to
admit and re-operate the prior invite first.

We can't get rid of what we consider we did not invite in, and are
refusing to put there.

The disinvite must match the invite in order to poof something or
someone out of the unanimous agreement to have the game.

Technically one puts the original invite there as a perfect
duplication of time, place, form, event, intention and aesthetic, and
then lets go.

Homer

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Kevin Brady (gomorrhan@hotmail.com) wrote:
>Yes, medicine is largely about managing symptoms. It's rare that a "cause"
>can be isolated, and treated with strictly a medicinal regimen, with a
>positive outcome. This doesn't mean medicine isn't necessary, it means it
>is not sufficient in many cases, and not required in others.

Adore says there are 4 planes to existence, body, heart, mind and
soul. Physical, emotional, mental and spiritual.

Medicine treats of the physical but not the other 3. Since 'dis
ease' trickles downwards, much physical sickness and disability arises
from problems in the upper 3 planes. Drugs help but do not cure.

Adore says, "Cancerous views of reality lead to cancerous
conditions in body, heart mind and soul. So much for medicine."

Run with "What like a cancer grows in your universe?"

But adore also says of doctors:

"As for doctors,

Doctors maintain their stability by walking into the center of
hell and looking there for the few they can help.

I love doctors forever for free, for they walk the battle fields.

Not in agreement with fools and assholes, but in sympathy yet,
for the call of pain knows not the distinction of worth." - Adore

Homer

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ARC AND THE VIRTUAL REALITY

> So scientologists having ARC with their environment have in fact
a virtualized actuality?

Yes.

All space time is a virtual reality in the imagination mind of God,
an infinite Multi Being.

Each being in the fair chosen group has his own personal private
rendition screen called his consciousness, of the virtual reality but they
are synced with other players so that the illusion of one reality shared
amongst all becomes possible.

The AllThatIS creates multi player arcade games consisting of
virtual projections of space, time, matter, energy and force, some of
which is used by each player as avatars (their body) to present
themselves to other players.

Every being has an avatar through which it virtualizes cause as
force, and recieves cause as force. All particles and functional
organizations of particles from quarks on up are avatars for the beings
that control them.

This includes but is not limited to, quarks, atoms, molecules,
cells, organs, bodies, planets, solar systems, galaxies and universes.

Although the human body is used as an avatar by the thetan running
it, this is like a cowboy riding a horse. The body itself is made of
trillions upon trillions of GE and atomic avatars and run every aspect of
its life. The body does not do well with the cowboy thetan stuck in its
head 24x7.

Considering space time actual lowers ARC to death or below, as it
creates the illusion that consciousness is MADE of things (parts) in
space time, and thus all beings must die forever one day. when the
necessary constituency and arrangement of parts is destroyed.

The idea that life is a process in dead things, molecules, atoms
etc, is a nightmare insanity of magnitude.

This is called Theory 1, temporal conscsiousness arose out of
precesses in MEST.

Considering space time virtual, a dream in the mind of an eternally
sleeping Multi Being (God), raises ARC to life and above, as it restores
the possibility of awareness of eternality, and thus deathlessness
without immortal suffering in time.

This is called Theory 2, dreams of MEST arose out of eternal
consciousness. All of life is God in carnation.

Heaven and Hells are virtual and thus limited in scope, certainly
they can not last forever in time as time exists only in finite whiles,
and God wouldn't stick a forever in time on himself even if he could.

Beings like to pretend otherwise for the sake of the game, it's an
acquired taste.

Eternal peace is actual, forever for free.

"Majesty is the sovereign desire that desire NOT be sovereign FOR A
WHILE." - Adore

Majesty is the sovereign move from game creator to game player.

The only real problem any thetan has is how to as-is regret.

He wants his kitty back, he wishes he had done something the night
before when premonition touched him, and he has tried to turn time back
ever since with all his being, while considering time and the kitty's
avatar to be actual.

This results in a negative ARC experience whose reality and
intensity convinces him of the truth its actuality.

"Doubt is self casting." - Adore

At some point it becomes hard to tell the difference between the
sound of crying and laughing, the love is so great.

The sheer depth alone of our desire, sorrow and love is evidence of
our native Divinity.

Homer

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UNAUDITABILITY

Aw, screw this crap. Run the dangerous auditor rundown first then run
this stuff if you still have the balls.

THE DANGEROUS AUDITOR RUNDOWN
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UNAUDITABILITY

This was written on 8/03/1999 but got lost in the system.

Homer

>So there are 2 ways - steadily improve your average tone, without worrying
>about
>the small things as they will drop out by themselves. Or have some
>solo tech to apply during the low tone. Do you know any?
>Nothing solo works for me in low tone. This is like cold - you
>have to wait some time before it vanishes by itself. During
>this time you sneeze here and there inevitably. How to
>control low toned condition?

There may be central cores to our cases that are 'unauditable', one
has to wait through them. Try to run 'unauditability' as an item. Also
waiting and enduring.

Remember every item of importance has an anti item.

Future - Anti Future

Get the idea of a future.
Get the idea of an anti future.

etc.

Sometimes the anti items are totally non obvious, but running
them produces *MARKED* results anyhow.

Sovereignty - Anti Sovereignty
Adoration - Anti Adoration
Operation - Anti Operation
Class - Anti Class
Majesty - Anti Majesty
Pride - Anti Pride
Magnificence - Anti Magnificence
Glory - Anti Glory
Source - Anti Source
Respect - Anti Respect
Tragedy - Anti Tragedy
Travesty - Anti Travesty
Ludicrous - Anti Ludicrous
Demise - Anti Demise
Agony - Anti Agony
Ecstasy - Anti Ecstasy
Golden Temper - Anti Golden Temper
Romance - Anti Romance
Thrill - Anti Thrill
Sin Song - Anti Sin Song
Joke - Anti Joke
Imp Soul - Anti Imp Soul
Humor - Anti Humor
Halcyon - Anti Halcyon
High Cool - High Anti Cool
High Friend - High Anti Friend
Miracle - Anti Miracle
King - Anti King

Get used to swinging wide on both sides of the dicoms
that you run into.

If you have an ascension experience, run the descension
experience! If you have a descension experience, run the
ascension experience! They come in pairs.

Don't use opposites like good and bad, use the anti form

Ascension - Anti Ascension
Descension - Anti Descension

Good - Anti Good
Bad - Anti Bad

This isn't a solo process so much as a way to live life and
field the curve balls it is throwing you.

Life - Anti Life

Don't let an important concept go by without running both sides of it,
*DEEPLY* and beyond when you might think it is flat.

Important - Anti Important
Unimportant - Anti Unimportant

Also remember there is not-isness producing a 'No' Item.

No can mean truly not there, but it usually means No at
the bottom of the CDEINR scale. Pretended not there.

No Importance - No Anti Importance

The basic form is

Postulate - Anti Postulate
No Postulate - No Anti Postulate

Take any subject.

Pretty girls.

"Is there a postulate on pretty girls?"
"Is there an anti postulate on pretty girls?"
"is there a no postulate on pretty girls?"
"Is there a no anti postulate on pretty girls?"

You don't have to get *WHAT* the postulate is, you want the FORCE on
both sides of the postulates. The actual what may or may not come to you.
It's the force that you are killing yourself with, particularly the 'no'
part of the force.

Its one thing to be operating postulates and anti postulates and know
it, and quite another to be operating no postulates and no anti postulates
and not know it! Something else is creating the world and our condition
in it right?

Anti postulates are necessary to produce an ongoing space time
game stream, so trying to get rid of anti postulates is fool hardy,
but running them and reoptimzing their balance against the postulates
can work miracles.

You want to get to your car, that's a postulate. But you can't
just get there by wanting it, desire isn't sovereign for a while, you
have to *WALK* to your car. That's an anti postulate.

Most people are unaware of postulates and anti postulates, so they
need to run No Postulate - No Anti Postulate first, until they come up
to recognizing that postulates and anti postulates are all that exist
and cause anything. It's not a head cognition, they *SEE* it all of a
sudden, and they see they are operating both sides of operation and anti
operation and they been anti operating THAT for a long time too!

Try

Source - Anti Source
Sovereign Source - Anti Sovereign Source
Sovereign Anti Source - Anti Sovereign Anti Source

Don't ask 'What the !@#@#% does that mean?'

Run the item, let existence show you what it means. Don't presume to
know. Existence is *WAY BIG*, it has more to offer us than we can know
until we get it. Knowing what there is to know is a covert way of not
knowing what there is to know and how much we don't know.

Also remember Adore defines a Miracle as

The *UNDREAMED* dream come true.

If you know what you want, it ain't no miracle if you get it,
no matter what it is.

What there is to have and get is *WAY* beyond our comprehension in the
not have state, let existence give it to you without knowing what it is
before you have it. That produces havingness that is just out of this
world. It's the undreamed dream come true that results in Joy in Eternal
Miracles.

Miracle - Anti Miracle
No Miracle - No Anti Miracle

JOY is Joke's On You.

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ARC BREAK WITH SOURCE

Being 100 percent ARC broke or debonded, with all of existence, it
is hard for me to conceive that everyone else is not also in the same
state.

I am so ARC broke, that my body is literrally dying of it.

It's tempting to say, well Homer, maybe you are ARC broke,
because you feel so bad all day long, if only you felt good in your
body, then you wouldn't feel so bad about your future etc.

Drugs led to that route, because they make you feel good no matter
what is going on. But eventually you see through it.

And I gotta look at it, a lot of people who 'feel good' seem to be
for the birds, you know what I mean?

So I figure I should look at it the other way around, my body is
dying, because my spirit is 100 percent out of affinity, reality and
communication with what is.

That would be enough to kill anyone, right?

"Homer, take some responsibility!"

Right. Take some responsibility for what? For being here?

Sorry, that's too alien for me.

Lots of people claim to be happy, claim to conceive an endlessly
beautiful future, claim to be satisfied with their lot in life, etc, but
they also seem to adorn themselves with small minded views of how they
got here and where they are and where they are going, and they have
interesting justifications about the mess everyone else is in.

They seem to be operating a make right, similar to a make wrong,
but its a way to make everything OK, when it isn't.

It's called whistling past the grave yard.

They can't be audited out of it, because then they are back in
their death forever or hell forever mentality that they are just sure
they can never handle.

One of the things that the proof did for me was get rid of all of
the make rights. That of course leaves me face to face with the raw
fundamental make wrong of all that is.

I try to go find some comfortable view of the cosmic all, but the
Proof keeps saying "Yeah right, lie to me some more why don't you."

So the 'better' I get, the worse I get because the more I see that
things are just 'fundamentally' unacceptable.

Presumably this fundamental unacceptability is based on a lie, an
alteris of a fundamentally acceptable higher truth, but I am not sure,
and that sources a tremendous amount of fear.

I see the horror.

Where is the humor?

No Peace.

Basically I can not reconcile what is with what I want.

I am so far gone on this problem that I can no longer even conceive
what I want.

What wants I can dredge up seem irrelevant in the face of the
Ascension Experiences, AE's, that I have gone through over 30 years.

I just want it all to end and to never have been.

I have managed to wrap a cocoon around myself of comfortable
numbness. Here I can hope, pray and pretend that there is a comfortable
solution to my dilemma, I am plagued by the fear that there might not be
such a thing, although hope and some of my lower visions shows me that
there might be such a thing.

But the higher visions of beauty tell me all is lost.

Who can withstand that much joy?

But hope is doubt, and doubt is self casting, doubt on these
matters generates enough poison feeling to kill anything let alone
little old me.

So I fear to find out, lest I doubt more. The comfortable numbness
of not knowing and hoping is better than facing the cold stark terror of
the possibility that pretended death forever is the only alternative to
hell forever.

Truth is insufferable, so we choose to live in comfortable
delusion instead.

I can hear the tittering of the butterflies now, they can not take
this seriously.

Nor could they create the situation.

And don't ever hope to be audited out of it by someone who
has never been there and returned to tell the tale.

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THE DANGEROUS AUDITOR RUNDOWN.

> What do you think was wrong with church auditing?

The auditor and C/S in front of me.

Just normal good humans, not stardrive OT's however.

They did not dare run:

Get the idea of something too dangerous to audit.
Get the idea of nothing too dangerous to audit.

Since I couldn't tell them The Proof because, 1.) they wouldn't have
gotten it, and 2.) if they had they would have crashed like me with no
hope of recovery, it acted as a massive unintentional withold, I was
hoping to make case gain inspite of the proof, but the proof was a
beginning item on too dangerous to audit.

Near the end of my Flag Auditing, I finally wrote a short note to
the C/S hoping it would open his eyes as what we were trying to handle.

It said simply:

Learning with certainty across a distance is impossible.

Never heard back, no change in C/S, communication totally bypassed.

I have no idea who my C/S, probably some no name, I thought it was Mayo
but he claims he wasn't at Flag during the time I was there.

I had no clue in 1976 how much power was buried by not knowing the
proof and then coming across it during a few months in 1973. Also it took
me YEARS to get the proof into critical mass form where even I could
understand it without dying from the power of its charge.

LRH talks about the dangerous auditor, someone who is terrifed to
death of finding out.

You could call this the first process on the DANGEROUS AUDITOR RUNDOWN.

Get the idea of no fear of knowing.
Get the idea of some fear of knowing.
Get the idea of no fear of not knowing.
Get the idea of some fear of not knowing.

Run on be, want, know, do, have, perfect certainty, and any other item
you can find reading or not.

The meter will fold up in terror and get stuck high TA when getting
close to the item, once you find the correct item to run this on, its too
late to protect yourself. Pray and prepare to meet your maker, YOU.

But this rudown will get the dangerous auditor running.

See HCOB's on dangerous auditors and C/Ses.

If it doesn't bite, get back to me, I love producing dead auditors.

It is not as simple as I make it out to be, I been soloing for 40 years
and only in the past 3 or 4 have I really started to toss the lightning
out of the back of my head, and come to near death a few times doing it,
heart pounding, can't breath, lightning like pains in body, unspeakable
spinning and vertigo dizziness, not only can't you stand up, you can't lie
flat on the floor either, back of spine melting from fear of fear etc.

Awareness that there is something too dangerous to be aware of, is too
dangerous to be aware of, as the process of becoming aware of it will have
already started it unraveling, and its too late to stop it again.

So yeah, consider this a top secret memo. :)

Homer


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MEATBALLS RELOADED

The problem with the meatball theory of the world and immortality
is that the meatball considers himself a machine.

The Proof defines a machine as 'any system of parts interacting
via cause and effect across a space/time distance.'

Under this definition a watch is a machine and so is a human
body, or even a civilization.

Certainly the physical universe as a whole is a machine.

The problem with a machine's immortality is the word 'parts'.

A machine works because its parts are in particular relationship
to each other. If you bust the parts apart or ruin that particular
relationship, the machine stops working.

Eventually the parts recycle and become parts of other machines.

Thus for example if a being IS his body, the body is clearly a
machine, so once the body dies, its parts become dust in the wind and the
being 'dies'.

This is an inescapable result of the nature of the meatball
theory of existence. If the meatball theory is correct, then they are
quite right that we are all mortal, i.e. incipient carrion.

Thus the only way a being could be immortal would be if the
meatball theory is completely wrong.

But how could it be wrong when it is so clearly right?

By the universe being a *VIRTUAL* machine of course, a virtual
reality projected into the mind of beings by Source.

The meatballs believe that space/time are *ACTUAL*, not illusions
in a non space/time substrate. Since space/time are actual, the
machines in them are also actual, and thus the fate of the machine,
death, is also actual.

But if one will admit that the actual experience of space/time
does not necessarily imply the actual existence of space/time, then
one is open to the possiblities afforded by the virtual machine or
dreamball theories of existence

A simple analogy to a hologram applies. Looking through a good
hologram film, one 'sees' a 3D world on the other side of it. Someone
not familiar with how holograms work might conclude the objects were
*ACTUALLY* there. The apparency of their actuality is very *REAL* to
him.

There is however *NOTHING* on the other side of the hologram!

So we define actuality as what is true, and reality as what
people think, feel or experience is true. Native State is where
actuality and reality match :).

The *EXPERIENCE* of the objects behind the hologram is always
an actuality, all conscious experience is *ITSELF* an actuality.
But the implied external objects are an illusion.

Someone who has not recognized that an experience contains an
illusion is said to be in delusion about illusin. He believes the
illusion to be actual. He confuses his sense of realness with
actualness.

GOD THE CREATING

One of the problems with people who believe in God, is that they
believe God created the universe and now the universe is 'running on
its own'.

They intone that God is Cause and that God as Cause created other
Cause, namely actual space/time and its objects, and now this
space/time universe is ticking like a watch with no further input from
God.

God could completely go away and this universe would continue
ticking, because once cause is made, it will continue to cause on its
own. Some philosophers have in fact claimed this is what God did,
make the universe and then go away.

This model of the universe is incorrect because it violates the
philosophical injunction against something coming from nothing.

Cause can cause *EFFECTS*, cause can't cause other cause!

Cause can cause effects in other causes, but cause can not make
other causes come into existence where they were not there before.

Thus if God was the only cause in the beginning, then God continues
to be the only cause in present time and into the future.

If God created the world, then God must be CREATING the world as we
speak.

This means that every interaction between A and B in the physical
univerwse takes place, not because there is some kind of cause or
independent agency between them, but because God is controlling both A
and B to make it APPEAR AS IF there is cause between them.

Thus the ball bounces off the wall, not because there is actual
cause between the ball and the wall, but because God is causing both the
ball and the wall to move AS IF there is cause between the ball and the
wall.

Why? Because God wants a virtual reality where balls bounce off of
walls. God can't have an ACTUALITY where balls bounce off of walls
because that would involve God creating other actual cause.

So instead God creates a virtual pretend reality where the balls
bounce off of walls so accurately that his virtual reality is virtually
as good as an actuality doing the same.

God as ACTUAL cause of the bounce is creating a VIRTUALLY REAL
bounce between the ball and wall. Those that are below "26.0
Apparencies are Actuality" on the tone scale thus consider the virtually
real cause as actual and thus can have a game.

Below 'Apparencies are Actuality' beings have jumped into the
arcade game, the dream, and lost their lucidity so the game can go on.

Lucidity means "Hey I am dreaming don't you know!"

Non lucidity means "Nope this is actual!"

Lucidity means being awake enough in the dream that you know you
are dreaming and that true cause is not as it appears, but not awake
enough that you wake out of the dream and lose the dream.

Waking up out of and losing the dream is actually a major problem
to a God trying to create a persisting virtual reality, so beings have
gone to great trouble to make sure the virtual reality looks like an
actuality, no question about it.

Then they hire an enforcer to assert it over and over and over
again, until they will believe anything just to shut the enforcer up.

So if you are going to believe in God, you might as well go all the
way and believe in *GOD*, one who is CREATING the world in its every
move all the time.

If the central processor of an arcade game were to take a break and
go away, so would the virtual reality is was creating.

Just so with God and any manifesting universe.

AGENCY

Now the brighter of you will argue as follows.

Wait a minute, I can accept that all these interactions going on
between physical objects in the world are actually being continuously
orchestrated by God to look as if they are caused by external
independent agency between them, but what about *ME*?!

Surely I am an independent agency.

I have 'responsible will'.

When I move my arm, I can SEE that the movement of my arm is
DIRECTLY connected to MY desire to move it. This causal connection
isn't just a virtual reality orchestrated by God to make it merely
appear as if the movement of my arm is connected to my own desire!

The movement of my arm is DIRECTLY connected to my desire via my
*OWN* causal agency I call my will.

So if I have independent agency, and so does everyone else who is a
conscious unit, how do you explain that God is the sole independent
agency in the universe? If God as cause can't create me as other cause,
where did I come from then?

Good question, you get an A just for asking it.

Here's the answer.

You ARE God.

God is a multi being, a multi I-AM self aware being.

The virtual realities (universes) that this God creates and
incarnates in, are casted images in his 'body' (substrate).

The AllThatIs consists of God and his virtual realities.

Again it is an error to think that after God made the world, you
had God over here, and the world over there.

No, God is a chameleon, he creates the virtual projection show in
the materiality of his own being.

Since those virtual realities are actually projected in the
conscious scalar substrate of God himself, there is in fact only God.

Thus the AllThatIs = God.

So how does this work?

If you take a 2 dimensional slice through the fingers of your hand
(Ouch!), you will see 5 independent circles separated from each other.

But if you look at your hand in 3 dimensions you will see that all
these circles are connected through the 3rd dimension to your hand, so
there is really just one object, your hand and the rest of your body.

Some have said the same is true about the solar system. When
looked at through our 3 dimensional slice, we see 10 indepenent spheres,
the sun and 9 planets, going around each other. But if we were to look
in the 4th or 5th dimension we would see they are all connected to each
other at core. The whole thing them becomes one continuous object which
is the 'body' of the sun god Ra.

Ra is a lesser god amongst many.

Well the AllThatIs God is the same way. When looked at one way
there are a infinite number of finite independent I-AM's, causal agents.

But when looked at another way they are all connected together at
Source into one infinite I-AM.

God as the infinite I-AM can't do very much, as God can only source
through the finite independent I-AM's.

"Source Sources when Will Casts" - Adore

As finite independent I-AM's, little independent causal agents,
they can incarnate in virtual realities and have 'independent will' etc.

The feeling of free will is itself an illusion. Nothing can be
free of its own nature, so in the end absolute free will would be random
activity and undesirable anyhow.

A will 'feels' free when it is free to follow its desires. It's
desires however are a fundamental unchangeable quality of its being.

As for the physical universe and its interactions, the ball bounces
off the wall because, as the one Big I-AM, all the beings in the dream
are orchestrating it, but those same beings as the little I-AM's in the
dream think the agency between the ball and wall is actual.

This is as intended. There can be nothing but that which is
intended.

This flip flop from creating and orchestrating virtual realities
into believing those virtual realities to be actualities is how beings
create and play games in space/time game streams.

Homer

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> My rule of thumb is for every $ invested in processing and training the
> client should get a ten times return on their money.

I spent over $100,000 on auditing between the org, flag and freezone,
and the only thing that went clear was my bank account.

I got worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and
worse and worse and worse and worse...

Why was that?

The only times I got 'better' were when I soloed between paid
sessions to repair the damage and get extroverted again.

And then I was willing to do it all over again, and go back and
get all smashed up the next day all over again.

It's amazing what even squirrel solo auditing can do to vanish ARC
breaks, over and over and over and over and over and over again. You just
go back the next day and can put up with anything.

Now THAT I call case gain!

> Self employed people, business men, artists, sales people are the best
> public as they can increase their production and effectiveness and get an
> immediate return on their investment. But to get that type of people takes
> good confront and superb people handling skills, and good marketing.

Run my own business, CEO. That count?

> I don't want pc's. If the person won't train and co-process they cannot
> make it.

I was on the HGC and Training for Dianetic auditor.

> We only sell a minimum of processing. Usually we can fix most cases and get
> them flying in under 10 hours. Most of our students learn to co-process on
> the courses and can continue to co-process when they go home.

'Fix?' What the fuck does fix mean?

I had 300 hours at the org alone, and retracted my Life Repair
declare 45 minutes after I made it. Then they sent me to Flag IN
DESPAIR. They couldn't run away from me fast enough.

Great auditors at Flag, Cassandra, Sybalski just cream of the crop
people, later declared SPs of course, but I never declared anything at
Flag after 6 INTENSIVES, 72 hours.

Oh well I did declare, 'My bank account is clear!'

Later I paid for 4 intensives at $3000/intensive in the field,
and walked out in the middle of the 1st intensive.

They forbade me to fix my own daily session ARC breaks.

Never even asked for my money back, I hope it burned a hole
in their God damn pockets.

> We train very kindly, no abuse, no enforcement, no stat push. It takes a
> lot to make and keep a safe environment.

You just make a person sign a non disclosure agreement for the Codes.

And tell them they are unworthy of being audited by you, and in one
case the mate was unworthy of the preclear.

> The biggest stop for most processors making a living at processing and
> training is the confront it takes to ask for the money and to get the
> client to make the time. The other stop is going out and getting clients,
> especially those with good comm. lines.

Yes, clearly simply having money to pay for auditing is not
sufficient to guarantee case gain.

> It takes many skills and great discipline to build a viable center. But
> more importantly it requires perfect costing and estimating prices.

Also the ability to deliver a product, not an endless open
promise to deliver down the road if only they continue long enough.

No Alan, you are dead, along with Lamont and the rest of that cabal of
arrogant assholes. You had a chance to help me, but instead you said you
wouldn't audit me if your life depended on it.

You and yours can all burn in hell forever for free.

Oh OK, may the fire of your burning certs keep you warm when hell
burns out and freezes over.

Homer

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> Hi, do you know of anyone (other than your family) using this type of
> auditing ? This is very different than Scio to As-Is things if ever
> they know what As-Issing means in practical terms. Your explanations of
> duplicating the not-isness to as-is resonates with me , why is it that
> till now no-one have come up with new ways of As-Issing case? Is Adore
> you outside this Universe/Matrix? I would like to see more people like
> you on the Net. I've put Filbert's on hold for some time as I don't have
> enough Scio background to be able to apply his Excalibur.

The problem is case accessibility. Is-ness cases are easy to
audit, you ask them what is it, and they say Oh yes its a whadapoodle,
imagine that! ... and away they go.

Inaccessible cases are not-isness cases, they have essentially
ruined their ability to be audited by what questions. You ask them
whatsit? and they say 'I don't know'. LOOKING doesn't work.

Bank doesn't respond, file clerk is dead, bank has total contempt
on the auditor bringing it stupid questions.

Check it on the meter if you have one.

OK so then NOT LOOKING should work, but they continue to LOOK for
WHAT they are not looking at. That isn't NOT LOOKing.

So asking what are you not looking at, won't work as it tries to
get them too look, AND THEY KNOW THEY WILL DIE IF THEY DO.

The not-is case has lost his confidence in his ability to
not-is! He used to be able to not-is anything and knew it,
but he lost that, now he thinks he can only keep a not-isness
in place if he doesn't know he is not-ising it.

This is true anyhow, because once he KNOWS he is not-ising
and WANTS to be not-isness the very act of putting the not-isness there
makes it too easy to as-is and its start to bubble off the minute he
gets distracted by a pretty girl.

Putting death and damnation there and not knowing one is doing so is
hard work after all. Mustn't get distracted and realize one is doing this
or it will blow away with the first breeze.

So he has to not-is that he is not-ising, which is an infinite
progression of not-ising continuing on through present time into his
infinite future.

So you get them to not look first.

Don't see something! Good! You sure you didn't see it? Good!

Pretty soon they get comfortable with not seeing and not knowing what
they are not seeing, and they come up to seeing that they are not seeing
and that is just fine with them. They chill out, somatics go away and the
son of a bitch abomination that they aren't seeing, can't hurt them any
more because they are not seeing it!

If looks could kill, just don't look at it!

So my description of this is to as-is the not-isness first BY NOT
ISING! This is just something that they tried to get the preclear to do
by asking what is it questions forever in the hopes that something would
change. Rare as rare it might work, but most just got arc broken and
walked away a black V forever more.

"If I am not-ising, how the fuck can I know what I am
not-ising!"

Good question, so you don't run tell me something you could
not know about that somatic, run don't know something about that
somatic! It's easy and the preclear can't take a loss on it
because he can not know anything forever for free.

Hubbard didn't have a lot of success with Black V's, during the PDC
and standard opening procedure 1.x he could handle step 1's, exterior,
step 2's, almost exterior can use beams to get out, step 3's needed lots
of spacation until their space was clear then they became step 2's, step
4's were more messed up and needed lots of havingness, mockup all the
girl friends you ever had kind of thing, make them walk up to you, then
away from you, on and on until your havingness on boobs, babes bombs or
whatever was complete. Then there was no more need to put shit in one's
space and the preclear could start having SPACE and make sure its empty
and be happy with empty space. A lot better than a girl friend. Or 10
billion.

But then step 5's were the whole rest of humanity, and he couldn't
do a thing with them except say have them mockup blackness until they
have remedied their havingness on blackness and invisibility.

In other words a Black V doesn't have enough blackness or
invisibility, couldn't possibly have enough blackness to not look at the
bastard from hell he is trying to never see again and not know he is
trying to never see again.

But that is such an understatement that no body including the
auditor could ever do it.

You see I been running failed is-ness processes for years and
getting no where. Then I started running not-isness, 'dont mockup
something' until the cows came home, but finally I started to see the
bastard from hell that looking upon him will kill me and the whole
neighborhood around me for miles.

Now I am quite happy being a black V, and I am damn good at it, and
its not a problem any more, because the damn bastard thing from hell is
suffocating from not being able to scare me anymore, and I know if I
ever get it to work for me, I will be able to scare anyone anytime no
matter who it is, and the somatics are slowly resolving with very
careful not-is and is-ness auditing around the core terror, and we are
making progress, slow but steady.

So that's how I discovered not-isness level cases and is-ness level
cases, and alter-is cases and as-is cases.

As-is cases are trivial to audit, you just get them dumping, and it
starts vanishing as fast as they can talk.

You nod your head wisely once in a while to keep them dumping, they
cog out, go VVGIS', say "Who the hell are you?" and finally "God you are
good at this." and you did exactly nothing except not stop them from
dumping.

Alter-is cases can dump nicely too, but its all scrambled and they
gotta go through it a few times to get it to really get significance
free. You see even saying 'Itsa elephant!' is added significance to the
picture he is seeing, and that causes persistence just enough. He's
gotta as-is the itsa elephant bullshit, and just get to the picture as a
picture of something he has no clue what it is because he aint' created
it yet what it is, and then it goes poof when he lets go.

So IT IS is as-is, but WHAT IT IS is alter-is.

That's why asking 'What is it? all day long causes
persistence.

"What is it?" means "It is, but I don't know what?" Which postulate
now do you think is the controlling postulate.

What a joke as the church tries to get an an as-is by asking what
is it?

Then the isness cases are just more of the above only solid, oh my
god its a volcano and I am on the edge and about to fall in from
swinging vertigo, and ... etc etc. He has to run it a million times
from across the fucking galaxy before his body will go near it, becauase
he feels like he is going to FALL into ruin, despair, disaster,
catastophe, and destruction, forever if he gets too close to seeing it.

He just will never recover!

Smoke coming down the mountain at 100 miles per hour, and he can't
run fast enough to get away from it! The ground is turning red hot
under his feet as he runs, hey that's not fair! Finally he gives up
and becomes toast.

That's despair, can't run fast enough, you see? So this is your
standard dianetic case, fun to run, scares the shit out of himself every
session, comes out smiling 20 runs over the incident later and thinks
Scientology is God's gift to man, because it is.

But the not-iness case just says 'What volcano?', nothing there,
nothing there etc.

Hours and hours and hours of get the idea of something there, get
the idea of nothing there, and its just nothing there, nothing there
nothing there.

So then you start running

Fear of not knowing, fear of knowing.
Too dangerous to audit, too safe to audit.

Run it on knowing, seeing, looking, feeling, doing, having, being,
thinking etc, and pretty soon the FEAR turns on, I mean he's dead, right
now foreever for free if he so much as moves and this thing sees him.

His fear is so strong in the back of his spine, his body is
about to DIE of it, and that scares him even more.

This thing is the ultimate nightmare of an infinite God, fools rush
in where angels dare not tread and God's go running for their mamas.

He has to run the fear AS FEAR until its flat before he can even
think about the ability to actually let the not-isness go. The
not-isness is SAVING HIS LIFE AND SANITY but only as long as he
continues to not know that he is not-ising!

No one can run this stuff in the church, maybe because all the
sweetness and light as-is, alter-is, and is-ness cases would go
screaming out the window if they got a hint of their bypassed not-is
case.

So basically all those churchies trying to handle the not-is case
on lines, kind of suppress it so they don't have to run it, and they
don't understand the not-is case at all, something so scary it will kill
you dead just to remember it's there?

Nah, only SP's suffer from that.

And the S&L cases go clear on a key out, and you still can't talk
to them about anything real. But they are better than they were, they
just have no clue how far they have to go to be able to move the marble
on the table or put the fucking table there along with the monster on it
with a stake through its eyeball.

And they are totally unable to put themselves into existence.

So they can't let it go, and pop back to native state.

They are stuck in something NO ONE WOULD EVER HAVE CREATED,
so they can't put it there, so they can't let go of it.

> Is there anyone I could contact to clear doubts when using your Tech ?
> I'll do Solo, People these days are not even remotely interested in this
> type of "Therapy", which I understand it, changes (key-outs) are faster
> with Tech like EFT, Affirmations, Meditations, yada yada.

You don't need help.

You do need to run your fear of knowing. Nothing there is
a lie, but it keeps you safe and sane and producing.

Are you ready for your personal GNP to go to hell like
a 747 plane crash?

> Any tips on how to do a mini-bridge (adore style) Solo-ing it, some
> bullets? I know you said I would be processing my bts (whatever those
> are) but I prefer not adopt that point of view otherwise would be the
> same depressing song of needing an Auditor ($$$) to make progress. I
> would like to audit/help others (that is not a problem) just need to
> find those interested, only time will tell.

Just understand you are a cluster, probably a WHOLE SHIT LOAD,
countem 100 trillion to just make a low grade ghoul.

When you think you are auditing you, you are auditing the
cluster solo or dual. Stop worrying about help and $$. They can't
help you because they would die if they could even conceive
what you are up against.

YOU.

Mainly it has to do with willingness, unwillingness to change,
help, solve problems, be responsible for, put there, and create the
unthinkable.

How do you feel about your eternal future?

No forget that, that's way to heavy to run, you will be dead
in a week.

Remember the thing that is forgotten, not-ised, MUST REMAIN THAT WAY,
because to even remember that its there is to start as-ising the
not-isness and it WILL surface in the near future at the most inopportune
times, and your body will start dying from pain, suffocation, can't sleep
etc, all of which is simplly kick back from not thinking about something
for so long there are not numbers to count the age.

If you ask WHAT IS IT, it will kill you dead.

If you not-is it properly again for a while, it will chill
out and you will get a change to live again and try again later.

Also take a good long run at,

What is the after life like?

Until you understand that it might be your worst nightmare and the
only safe place is in a body just sure you are going to die one day.

Your desire to crush out your memory is INFINITE, and you were
infinite when you did it. Why?

What could scare an omni sovereign operating Lord God Almighty?

What's a Lord God Almighty?

When you see one, you go "Lord God Almighty!"

How do you feel about being mortal?
How do you feel about being immortal (in time)?
How do you feel about being Eternal (above time)?

Its the fear of feeling that keeps the being nailed to the body in
protecting bodies etc.

The body just can't handle the future that the preclear has mocked
up for himself by thinking something else has mocked it up for him.

Remember doubt is self casting, if you doubt you can confront,
you won't be able to, that is absolute.

Wondering if also kills.

Along with all the question asking, what is it, why is it.

You can ask questions, but take the drama and seriousness
out of it. It's the questions that are important not the answers.

Questions kill, answers put the nails in the coffin.

When you see that working, you should probably have your
will written a week before.

"SinSong is to sing another Source done wrong song."

SinSong is not Sin as long as it is just Song." - Adore

There is humor in the horror, never lose faith, but
don't throw fits either, if you can't see the humor you are
vastly underjudging the horror.

Homer

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SUNGOD

SUN GOD

This posting is not free.

I spent 4 hours of my extremely precious time this afternoon
writing this.

If this posting benefits you, you owe me an act of personal
investment in my and your future by showing this posting to someone
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SUN GOD

Although the one true god of Adore is the god of J.E.M, (Joy in
Eternal Miracles), Adorians also worship the Sun God Ra, as an emissary
of Jem.

ADORE
http://www.adore.com

This is about Ra.

I can hear someone asking me,

"Homer is money all Adorians care about?"

Yes.

But one has to take a look at what Adore's viewpoint really is.

Life consists of consumption and production. You can't take a
breath without consuming fuel and oxygen and producing exhaust and
carbon dioxide.

The Sun/Earth system is like a gigantic rechargable battery.

The primary chemicals involved is the cycle that converts carbon
and oxygen into CO2 via the breathing of animals, and then back again.
via the photosynthesis of plants.

All chemical reactions both absorb energy and release energy at the
same time.

Endothermic reactions are those that absorb more energy than they
release.

Exothermic reactions are those that release more energy than they
absorb.

It takes a tremendous amount of energy for the plant tear apart the
CO2 molecule into Carbon and Oxygen. When they finally fly apart they
release some energy so you get some of it back, but it takes much more
to pull them apart than you get back, so this is endothermic.

In the plant, this extra energy is absorbed directly from the sun,
again via the process of photosynthesis.

In other words carbon and oxygen are in a higher stored energy
state when they are apart than when they are together as CO2.

On the other hand it doesn't take a lot of energy to bring carbon
and oxygen back together again, and when they do they release a lot more
energy back into the world than it took to start them combining. This
is exothermic.

This process of combining carbon and oxygen back into CO2 is
done in the lungs of the animal as it breathes.

Thus what the plant does by splitting CO2 into carbon and
oxygen, the animal undoes by recombining that carbon and oxygen
backinto CO2.

The amount of energy released by rejoining carbon and oxygen is so
much more than the energy necessary to start the reaction in the first
place, that the reaction is self sustaining. If you put a match to wood
(carbon), it will burn under its own heat.

Endothermic reactions in general will not do this.

BUT YOU HAD TO HAVE AN ENDOTHERMIC REACTION BEFORE YOU COULD HAVE
AN EXOTHERMIC REACTION!

You have to store energy in an endothermic reaction before you can
release it in an exothermic reaction.

The two processes exactly balance. What is stored during the
endothermic part is released during the exothermic part.

When carbon and oxygen burn and rejoin into CO2, they release just
as much energy as they absorbed when they were split!

In this sense the carbon oxygen cycle acts like a rechargable
battery. You pump energy into CO2 splitting it up into carbon and
oxygen, and later you come along and release that energy by setting fire
to the carbon in an oxygen atmosphere, recombining them into CO2.

The Sun/Earth system acts like a huge rechargable battery based on
this carbon oxygen cycle.

The recharging/production cycle of carbon and oxygen from CO2 by
the plant is driven by the Sun, and the decharging/consumption cycle of
of carbon and oxygen back into CO2 is driven by fire of one kind or
another, otherwise known as oxidation, whether fast or slow, as in rust
or breathing.

In a highly simplified view, energy from the Sun hits the free CO2
in the ground and the air, splitting it into carbon and oxygen, and thus
'pushing' plants up out of the ground.

The body of the plant is the carbon that has been freed from the
oxygen, and the atmosphere around the plant is the oxygen that was freed
from the carbon.

A tremendous amount of potential sun energy is stored in this
SEPARATION of carbon and oxygen.

The energy thus stored is released again when fire burns the plants
or animals eat them.

As plants are pushed into existence by the Sun, oxygen fills the
atmosphere.

When the oxygen content of the air gets too great, the slightest
lightening strike will create a forest fire the likes of which you have
never seen. When the oxygen content drops down, the fires go out, and
so the cycle repeats itself.

This is in part why the oxygen concentration in the atmosphere has
stabilized at around 30 percent, lightning and forest fires keep it so.

Animals do the same thing to plants that fire does.

By eating plants, animals bring oxygen in the air together with the
carbon in the plants, igniting them with an internal chemical match so
to speak, and the result is CO2 released back into the atmosphere and
the ground, releasing the stored heat and usable sun energy which the
animal can then use to do useful work.

The animal kingdom is a slow fire to the plant kingdom.

This cycle of

Sun -> Plants -> Animals -> entropy into free space

happens over and over again, pumped by the Sun.

OK, so what does money have to do with this?

In this model, value is defined as stored energy tempered by the
usefulness of that stored energy.

In general there is no value where there is no energy, for where
there is no energy there is nothing.

Sometimes however some forms of energy can be more harmful than
helpful, in which case the absence of harmful energy can be of greater
value than its presence.

Useful vaccuums are like this.

Thus a little helpful energy is of more value than a lot of harmful
energy.

Helpful energy has positive value, and harmful energy has negative
value.

Energy from the Sun is stored in many objects on the planet, in
general it starts with plants, and heat in the oceans and the land, but
ends up in many different forms afterwards.

The form of energy is as important as the amount of energy stored.
For example there is energy stored in both a battery and a stick of
dynamite. However the energy in a stick of dynamite would be totally
useless and even counterproductive to someone wanting to light a
flashlight.

Forms of energy can be converted into each other, but usually at
some expense and expenditure of the energy to be converted.

This is called conversion efficiency.

For example, the energy in the dynamite might be converted to
energy in a battery but that might take more energy in time, trouble and
materials, to do the conversion than it was worth.

Energy that is fully expended is called entropy, it is essentially
energy that is no longer stored in any useful way.

Anti-entropy is energy that is stored in a useful manner ready to
go on notice to produce useful work.

Both Entropy and Anti-entropy, in this definition, is relative to
the user who values the energy.

Energy that is totally dispersed and energy that is stored in
useless forms are both forms of entropy.

In this sense, entropy is defined relative to a person's need and
use for energy and relative to their ability to convert it into a useful
form. A stick of dynamite would be a form of entropy to someone in
desperate need of a flashlight.

However if he goes at it just right, he might get some useful light
out of the stick of dynamite! :)

Sun light starts off highly concentrated, ends up on earth as
plants, gets eaten by animals which do useful work, unless they are
liberals, and finally gets radiated as heat which goes off into the
cosmos where it is not generally locally useful again.

Notice however that even this radiated energy might one day hit
another planet and help push a plant into existence thus becoming
locally useful again on that planet.

But the vast majority of expended energy simply goes off into space
and becomes part of the background radiation which does little good to
anyone.

This process is the River of Light.

Once the Sun burns out entirely, the cycle of plant and animal ends
for the time being.

Presumably all the entropic energy radiated into space at the end
of the cycle gets collected back together again during the next
contraction phase of the universe leading to the next Big Bang.
However, maybe that never happens, and the universe continues to expand
into darkness forever and ever amen.

Recent evidence indicates there may never be a contraction phase,
in which case the expended energy will simply spread out and become
thinner and thinner for the rest of time, unless some other thing pumps
new energy and anti entropy into the universe.

Within this conceptual matrix, animals form a very particular kind
of game. They are not 'pushed' into existence by the Sun, the way
plants are. Animals must consume fuel that has already been pushed into
storage in order to survive. In this sense animals are miners (or
harvesters) for they need to mine fuel in order to have fuel.

But they need to have fuel in order to mine fuel!

Every effort an animal uses to mine fuel, consumes fuel.

Therefore an animal must be given an initial alotment of fuel to
begin his foraging day. This is done at the beginning of life through
investment by the mother or father in feeding and growing the child.

If an animal consumes more fuel than it mines, it eventually runs
out of fuel and dies.

(Some animals think they are plants by the way, they go out in the
sun, and expect it to push them into existence. They usually end up
living off of other's assets.)

Mining has to do with exothermic reactions. The action of mining
is the action of investing a small amount of energy in the vast sea of
stored energy in the Sun/Earth system, and getting an exothermic return
out of it. One then has more fuel to live another day, plus some
excess. In this way the animal increases its net worth.

Material Net Worth consists of four things to an animal.

1.) Fuel on hand which it owns and can consume in sow/reap
investment cycles. Ownership means rights of control.

2.) Capital equipment in working order that the animal can power
with that fuel in order to indulge in sow/reap investment cycles. The
primary capital mining equipment owned by an animal is its body, and its
fuel storage facilities.

3.) The mining field or fertile valleys that the animal has access
to in which to sow and reap endothermic and exothermic reactions.

"Dear God, we thank you for this fertile valley we live in, and for
the bounteous harvest in which we partake."

4.) Knowledge, talent and honed skill born of experience, to engage
in sow/reap cycles. This may seem non material in nature, but a book
with knowledge in it has a greater positive value than a book with
nothing in it, so the arrangement of matter that encods hard won
knowledge in a decodable way is definitely a form of anti-entropy
assets.

The animal plants a seed of corn. Through endothermicity the Sun
pushes it into an ear of corn with 6000 seeds. The animal reaps the
corn, puts some away in his fuel house, eats the rest of it and thus
through exothermicity releases the stored sunlight into useful energy
which it can use to do more useful work, the next day.

Useful work is defined as succesful mining, successful sow and reap
cycles.

The animal must burn some fuel already in his system to ignite the
newly eaten corn in his stomach, but he gets much more out of it than
the small amount he needs to start the fire.

The animal in fact must burn some fuel just to take in a breath in
order to sweep in the components of his next combustion cycle (oxygen).
If he doesn't have the energy left to take in that breath or to ignite
the combustion cycle, he becomes dead.

The animal that has a lot of fuel in his warehouse (money in the
bank), but no capital equipment to mine with or mine field to ply his
trade to, is a sinking ship. He may be very wealthy, have a high net
worth, but he will be eating his assets and producing nothing, and the
rats on his ship of life will be packing their bags shortly, and looking
for the nearest rope.

This is because the absence of or inability to buy capital mining
equipment, renders his net worth of zero or negative value to himself,
as he can't use it himself to survive.

The animal that has a lot of capital equipment to work with, but no
fuel, is out of luck from the word go because he can't make a move
without an initial alotment of fuel.

The animal that has a lot of stored fuel and capital equipment but
no mine field to get more, is also a sinking ship, for he will spin his
wheels all day long, with no return. This is the guy planting his seeds
in a toxic waste dump.

Thus true 'wealth' to an animal is to have a vast mining field that
is easily minable, working equipment and enough fuel to turn an
exothermic profit by the end of the day. By far and away the mine field
is the most important of the three. You can always get loans or
investments of fuel and capital equipment from others if you find a good
mine field, but without the mine field you might as well give it up now.

Thus if an animal is not doing well, the first thing you want to do
is see what kind of mine field he is trying to mine.

It is pretty clear from this model that the animal is sort of on a
rat race wheel. Every breath he takes consumes some of his precious
joules (a unit of energy) that he has stored in his fuel house. If,
after eating, he does not put those released joules to useful work,
meaning sowing or mining more fuel, he will eventually run out of fuel
and die. Thus any animal that is not doing useful work is headed for
the grave.

Useful work by the way doesn't necessarily mean going out and
running around doing things, it can mean sleeping and digesting your
food or taking a rest to allow regeneration or indulging in play to
increase one's skills. Even art is a form of useful energy.

This is all useful work. But if the amount of useful work done
during a day is less than the amount of fuel consumed, then the fuel
tanks will be just that much lower at the end of the day.

That's called negative Return On Investment.

Total Net Worth lower at the end of the day.

Thus for an animal, sow/reap investment cycles in the natural
exothermicity of the Sun/Earth system is the order of the day, they are
in fact an ethical mandate, as the wages of sin are death.

So yes, all Adorians care about is money. Money is merely a
statement of personal net worth, which includes personal fuel in the
bank, extant useful captial equipment on hand and vast mining fields
that are easily accessible and provide a large return on investments for
every sow/reap engaged upon.

That is a moral mandate you see. God gave you verdant fields to
mine, a healthy body and mind, and loving parents to stuff you full of
fuel when you couldn't do it yourself.

The only sin then is profligation, not maximizing returns on
investments.

Profligation means, in this context, consuming more than you
produce, which uses up your own stores and then other's stores who are
foolish enough to invest in you.

There is a place for charity, but only AFTER you have produced a
return on investment, you never give part of your principle away unless
it is someone who is going to also produce a return on investment, with
you, a co investor.

Certainly never give part of your principle away to first in liners
who will merely consume it and produce nothing.

It has little to do with ownership per se, and more to do with
successful living in the long term, of which ownership is a small part.

Ownership is merely rights to control, namely who makes the
decision, how much to invest and what to invest it in.

Although it is easy to fall into the trap of thinking that money in
the bank, a personal tractor outside in the yard and 3 acres of land is
some kind of affluence, one has to rememeber the over all scene.

The ultimate congolmerate of fuel stores, capital machinery and
viable mine fields is civilization itself. Thus investing in a kid, who
will invest in his kids, who will invest in his kids, may not produce an
immediate return the way selling a loaf of bread for 2 drachmas will,
but it is never the less an investment in your own future, as one day
the benefits of that tree will bear fruit and you will eat thereof or
someone you care about will.

And anyhow we don't live but once, no matter what the book made of
toilet paper tells us.

When looked at this way, one's net worth is a much grander thing
than what your present holdings are or what you report to the tax
department.

Net worth includes your PROSPECTS on the Goal to Create a Future.

Learning to invest is the grander scheme is a sign of a true
investor and a real winner in life.

That includes investment of fuel, equipment, and mine fields, along
with time, skill and knowledge.

The Sun God Ra smiles upon those who invest in the grand scheme of
things to produce the greatest return for the greatest number without
sacrificing self to starvation which produces nothing for anyone.

His smile, in affluence, is the return you get.

You can count on it.

Homer


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Phil Scott (philscott@philscott.net) wrote:

> If you however can play the piano..well then there is a test...if you can
> swing the sword with
> your life on the line..thats a test too. The testing is crucial.

Such small tests.

How about if I can turn the tables on a mortal meatball and get
them to consider they are immortal again? Get them to bubble upwards
in life rather than swim downwards?

The difference is whether they know they are dreaming or not.

"If you wanted to drop a mental Atomic bomb on a person, you
could simply convince him of his Immortality. Just like that.

If you could really make a person KNOW that he was Immortal, life
would never be the same. This paper is such an Atomic Bomb, a
prototype but built to explode. And YOU are reading it. If it fails
to explode either it is wrong, or you do not understand it. If it is
wrong I want to know. If you do not understand it, I am at your
service to give you help or explanation."

Intro to Considerations on the Immortality of Self
Homer W. Smith 5/10/1977

That paper eventually became The Proof as I have been presenting
here for 12 years.

To wit:

Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Not Learning with
Certainty.

Learning across an actual space/time dimension implies learning
by looking at effects here produced by implied causes out there.

Learning by looking at effects implies not Learning with
Certainty about Cause.

Therefore, Learning with certainty about Cause, implies Learning,
but

Not by looking at effects, and
Not across a space/time dimension."

Since consciousness is aware of Agency, with perfect certainty,
both in itself and in its color-forms it therefore follows that
learner and learned about are not separated by a space/time dimension.

In other words Consciousness is scalar, and Looker, Looked
Through, and Looked At are One.

Homer

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In alt.clearing.technology Dennis L Erlich <informer@informer.org> wrote:
> There is quantifiable evidence the physical world exists. There is no
> quantifiable evidence that your dream exists anywhere but in your
> mind.

Sorry Dennis, there is evidence of all kinds that we collect from
our conscious experience of ourselves and the world and our experiments.
An actual physical universe out there is only one way of explaining it.

The dreamball theory explains it just as well.

And explains paranormal phenomenon as well.

What I am saying is that the meatball theory is not a forgone
conclusion, it is one model for things that people have observed in
their consciousness.

There is another theory, the dreamball theory, that suggests
experimentation to present evidence of its predictions, which the
meatball theory could not touch.

Thus those that are interested or suspect that the paranormal stuff
exists, now have a theory to work with that offers experiments that
promise results, and if they do the experiments and they get the
results, then that is more evidence that the meatball theory is passe.

If they do the experiments and do not get the results, then back to
the old drawing board.

>>>> You have evidence you are not dreaming the physical universe?
>
> Evidence to prove a negative? I'm afraid you lost me.

Sorry it was a confusing double negative.

You are quite correct, and that's the point, YOU are asking me to
provide evidence the physical universe does not exist.

I am asking you to provide evidence it does.

We both agree that SOMETHING exists for sure, namely ourselves and
our conscious experiences.

I just want some evidence that what I see in my consciousness
actually exists out there, rather than does not exist, as we both agree
it doesn't in a dream, Right?

Is that clear and scientifically fair?

We both see something, you say what we see represents something
actually out there, and I say please show me any evidence at all for the
something actually out there.

> If y'all can say there is no evidence the physical universe exists,
> and that you have some kind of evidence that everything is a dream, I
> think I'll pass on reading act.

Ok, Dennis start writing up the evidence that you know about that
suggests that the phyiscal universe is not just a co hallucination
amongst many dreamers.

I am asking you to show evidence for a positive.

> Homer, that is a very good metaphor guess. But calling it reality is
> not something I can accept. If it's not quantifiable, it's just a
> guess.

IT IS A THEORY, as is the meatball THEORY.

But each theory leads to experiments that can be done that suggest
outcomes.

The dreamball theory can be tested, the physical theory can not.

For example the dreamball theory says you can exteriorize, and here
is one way to do it .......

If it works, then you have evidence for the dreamball theory. and
AGAINST the meatball theory, because the meatball theory doesn't allow
for exteriorization.

What experiment can the physical theory suggest that can be tested
to see if results come about that the dreamball theory could not support
or would predict otherwise?

> I guessing that in your view any quantifiable evidence that the
> physical universe exists would be part of your dream. So trying to
> talk about evidence with you is a wasted activity.

Yes, it would be virtual reality showing itself to be consistent.

So here is the deep philosophical question, you are good at these,
so let's see if you can give me a God's honest answer to them.

*IF* the physical universe is actual and not virtual, could there
be any evidence to support that?

*IF* the phyiscal universe is virtual and not actual, could there
be any evidence to support that?

> Please don't use the word "science" in connection with your guesses
> about the nature of existence. It don't fit.

Sorry, you are wrong, science is observation, theory, prediction,
experiment and results.

I see my consciousness, it shows me a landscape.

That's the start of science.

The waking landscape purports to be actual rather than virtual
but so do dream landscapes.

I have learned that dream landscapes are not actual but only
virtual.

So why on Earth would I forgonely conclude that waking landscapes
are actual but not virtual too?

So we got two theories, actual or vitual.

Science now leads us to invent experiments that would indicate one
or the other.

This is pure science at its best.

> If I ever see anyone with powerz like you say, I may change my
> opinion. Til then I'll stick with the measurable.

If the physical universe is virtual, you can measure
it with virtual instruments all day long and get good workable
results.

They are still virtual.

But what measurement are you going to do that will determine
if virtual or actual?

Do you believe in actual just because you want to?

If so, even you will admit that is not good science.

So why exactly do you believe the PU is actual not a dream?

> What is this "real thing" of which you speak? You say above that the
> real thing doesn't really exist.

Yes we need to clear up reality and actuality.

I will try to do better with my choice of words.

Reality is what we think is true. Actuality is what is true.

It's the difference between a dream and the waking state.

In a dream, the dream is real to me, but nothing actual
is going on but my dream. Once I become lucid in the dream
and know I am dreaming, then the dream may still be very real
to me, but I know it isn't actual.

In the waking state, the dream is also real to me, but we have been
taught that something actual is also going on. The physical apple on
the table exists even if no one is around to dream it.

Last night I was feeling up a gorgeous chick in a dream, but was
there an actual live feeling physical chick there?

No.

Dreams are a kind of hallucination, where we experience something
as real in our consciousness, which in fact is not actually out there.

You claim the waking state is not a dream, that the PU is actually
out there.

I say you have no absolute evidence for this.

I say for all the evidence you have of anything at all, it is still
possible that the PU is a dream and doesn't actually exist.

Do you not understand the problem before us?

> And the human mind is capable of infinite self-delusion.

Yes, and I am one step back from that delusion.

I don't BELIEVE the PU is virtual, he way you DO BELIEVE the PU is
actual. It is you my friend who are in danger of delusion about
illusion.

I am merely asking for your evidence that just because you see
something in your consciousness, that it is actually there.

We are both looking at a TV set, you think its a real time picture
of the PU, I think its a video play back created by God.

> But it's just a beautiful metaphor. Because I can measure and
> quantify water.
>
> Not so with God or your dreamy worldview.

False, you can measure a full exteriorization, but only your own.

It would seem you might be refusing to consider the possibilities,
and do the experiments necessary to provide the evidence of the
dreamball theory. You are sitting back and telling me to provide it for
you.

You may think it so unlikely as to not be worth your while to try
the experiments to see if there is any outcome of interest, but that is
not good science.

Lots of people have reported being exterior. It is easy to claim
they are all deluded because none of them ever provided YOU with
evidence they were actually out and could see around them.

But that certainly is not good science.

Others have had enough apparently paranormal shit happen that they
are very interested in the matter, in getting the evidence we all
require to believe something.

But if they are stuck in the meatball theory, they do not have a
workable context in which to understand those powers, as the meatball
theory says they are impossible.

On the other hand, if they know and understand the dreamball theory
in detail, they have a context that not only accounts for everything in
the meatball theory, but also accounts for a lot more.

The meatball theory is a subset of the dreamball theory, just as
Einsteinian relativity is a subset of Newtonian relativity.

The honest researcher will not believe either theory, but
test both to his satisfaction.

The dreamball theory has not been honestly tested
by the meatballs, they expect everyone else to do the
work and then prove it to them.

Sorry good scientists do their own work, its called peer
review.

Even a full exteriorization with perception doesn't absolutely
disqualify the meatball theory, but once one starts to exteriorize out
of space and time into eternity, then the meatball theory has a hard
time standing up to what can be directly observed as to the genesis of
space and time.

Homer

>
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