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ALONENESS AND UNALONENESS
> Btw. The statement "there is something, so there was something" can
> be logically accepted only if preceded with "the whole world is the
> closed system". Can you accept this statement? Closed from what? From outside world?
The proof says the following.
Objects are defined by their Object Quality Set, (their nature).
Nothings have an empty Object Quality Set.
Somethings have a non empty Object Quality Set.
The Object Quality Set contains qualities that describe the object.
Qualities can be either Qualities of Being or Qualities of
Relation.
A Quality of Being is a quality the object has alone and exists
independent of its relation to any other object.
Existence is a quality of being. Dimensionality might be another,
whether it was 3D, 4D etc.
A Quality of Relation is a quality the object has by virtue of its
relation to other objects.
Next to, bigger than, cause of, came from, used for etc are
qualities of relation.
Many qualities that sound like qualities of being are in fact
qualities of relation.
Being red as a physical quality, for example is actually a casual
relation between the object and light waves, such that it reflects red
light and absorbs all other colors. Reflects and absorbs are forms of
'cause of'.
Being red as a conscious picture however is a true Quality
of Being. You don't see your conscious color forms with light waves!
(if you did you couldn't see them, you would see the light waves!)
Physical universe mass is another quality often taken to be a
quality of being, but is in fact measured by force from an external
object so is really only knowable through causal relation.
All Learning by Looking at Effects in the physical universe is
through causal relation. If there is no causal relation between A and
B, B can not learn about A.
This immediately implies that B can not learn about the Qualities
of Being of A, unless those Qualities of Being of A affect the causal
Qualities of Relation that A exerts over B. The Qualities of Being of
A in any case are at best logically derived back from the causal
Qualities of Relation of A as any Quality of Being of A can not be
directly observed by B using Learning by Looking at Effects.
Learning by looking at effects is the only mechanism for learning
available to B if B and A are separated by a real space time distance.
Notice since the conscious unit CAN learn about the Qualities of
Being of its own conscious color forms (redness), that therefore the
conscious unit is not Learning by Looking at Effects, but is Learning by
Looking at Cause, and therefore can not be learning about its color
forms across a distance.
Thus inside of consciousness, the Learner and the Learned About
must be one and the same object.
Qualities of Relation between B and A imply at least one Quality of
Being in both related objects, namely that they exist.
One assumes that if A can effect B and visa versa, then both A
and B have other qualities of being that give rise to the causal
relations between them. Learning by Looking at Effects is the effort
of B to learn about A's other Qualities of Being via experiencing the
effects of A's causal Quality of Relations on B.
Any Qualities of Being of A that do not affect A's causal Qualities
of Relation to B, can not be learned about by B by Learning by
Looking at Effects.
If *NO* Qualities of Being in A affect its causal Qualities of
Relation to B, then B can not learn *ANYTHING* about A, including
whether it exists or not.
One can exist alone, but one can not be in relation alone.
Therefore aloneness is a Quality of Being, and unaloneness is a
Quality of Relation.
The All That Is is by definition alone, as anything outside of
it, different from it, would mean that it wasn't the All That Is.
Therefore if one considers All That Is, it must be alone with
nothing outside of it.
Thus 'the world' is a closed system, and therefore, as you say, if
something exists now, something must have always existed.
It is a perfect certainty that something exists now, therefore
something is immortal, *IF* one accepts the intuitive idea that
something can not come from absolute nothing as defined above.
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Rogers (The_Bindu@msn.com) wrote:
>Okay. Now my next question is, does this set of working truths
>you talked about pertain more to Enid's auditing or to your solo?
Solo. Enid is a helper.
Basically my relative importances have moved towards
understanding exteriorization from the *MIND*, rather than from the
body, through auditing questions and answers, by running out the
question rather than by trying to find the answer. Questions come in
chains, and failed questions lay down charge like nothing else.
One starts with the premise that the Question IS the answer, and
then one finds the various chains of Questions where one tried to find
the answer instead and failed. Thus the joke is revealed.
"Why am I here?" Because you been asking why are you here for
trillenia until it stuck you but good in the prepostulate that you
are here.
"What's the purpose of life?" To ask questions until you drown
in them. :)
Further attention expands to other beings, BT's, entities,
demons, deities, etc, and THEIR questions and failed questions. My
dream life has become quite alive with all kinds of beings in them: of
the harrasive kind, some are easy to deal with, others impossible.
Each day is a new lesson in finding the next way to audit them into
friendliness.
The easiest need merely to be walked towards, and they vanish.
The next easiest deal with "You are a BT!" Some also need "Who
are you, what are you?" Some need it many times.
The next hardest need "Who am I? What am I?"
The next hardest need "You are a composite being, how many are you?"
They also need an indication, 10's, millions, trillions. Expect
trillions for many.
The next hardest need "What do you want, and what can I do for you?"
The next hardest need to be absorded into myself rather
than resisted or 'dealt' with at all.
The next hardest I don't have an answer for yet, they win.
Further attention is on the real reason for the black V
condition, which is related to interiorization into the body, heart
and mind, and various universes that are not being perceived.
"If your black V were to lift, what would you see?"
First E/P is being comfortable that one is a Black V! :)
"What could you see that make you jump out of your skin?"
Lastly attention has been directed to the real E/P of all OT
ability which is NOT 'able and willing to be here' as I have been
postulating for a long time, but is 'able to survive by being, rather
than by becoming'. The earlier E/P then follows.
Question asking IS the mechanism by which the being maintains his
decent from being into becoming. 'Answers' found no matter how
correct, act merely as as wrong indications, as the question itself is
the answer, being that the question continues the prepostulation of
limitation.
The auditing of questions and answers AS questions and answers,
including all auditing questions etc, is most powerful, as regards all
of the above, as most question asking is dramatization of surviving by
becoming, which sticks one in time and the body.
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Rogers (The_Bindu@msn.com) wrote:
>Okay. Now my next question is, does this set of working truths
>you talked about pertain more to Enid's auditing or to your solo?
Solo. Enid is a helper.
Basically my relative importances have moved towards
understanding exteriorization from the *MIND*, rather than from the
body, through auditing questions and answers, by running out the
question rather than by trying to find the answer. Questions come in
chains, and failed questions lay down charge like nothing else.
One starts with the premise that the Question IS the answer, and
then one finds the various chains of Questions where one tried to find
the answer instead and failed. Thus the joke is revealed.
"Why am I here?" Because you been asking why are you here for
trillenia until it stuck you but good in the prepostulate that you
are here.
"What's the purpose of life?" To ask questions until you drown
in them. :)
Further attention expands to other beings, BT's, entities,
demons, deities, etc, and THEIR questions and failed questions. My
dream life has become quite alive with all kinds of beings in them: of
the harrasive kind, some are easy to deal with, others impossible.
Each day is a new lesson in finding the next way to audit them into
friendliness.
The easiest need merely to be walked towards, and they vanish.
The next easiest deal with "You are a BT!" Some also need "Who
are you, what are you?" Some need it many times.
The next hardest need "Who am I? What am I?"
The next hardest need "You are a composite being, how many are you?"
They also need an indication, 10's, millions, trillions. Expect
trillions for many.
The next hardest need "What do you want, and what can I do for you?"
The next hardest need to be absorded into myself rather
than resisted or 'dealt' with at all.
The next hardest I don't have an answer for yet, they win.
Further attention is on the real reason for the black V
condition, which is related to interiorization into the body, heart
and mind, and various universes that are not being perceived.
"If your black V were to lift, what would you see?"
First E/P is being comfortable that one is a Black V! :)
"What could you see that make you jump out of your skin?"
Lastly attention has been directed to the real E/P of all OT
ability which is NOT 'able and willing to be here' as I have been
postulating for a long time, but is 'able to survive by being, rather
than by becoming'. The earlier E/P then follows.
Question asking IS the mechanism by which the being maintains his
decent from being into becoming. 'Answers' found no matter how
correct, act merely as as wrong indications, as the question itself is
the answer, being that the question continues the prepostulation of
limitation.
The auditing of questions and answers AS questions and answers,
including all auditing questions etc, is most powerful, as regards all
of the above, as most question asking is dramatization of surviving by
becoming, which sticks one in time and the body.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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PRIVACY AND THE MORNING GLORY DEMOCRACY
PRIVACY AND THE MORNING GLORY DEMOCRACY.
Copyright 2002-2016 Homer Wilson Smith
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The feeling is that people of good heart will always speak up
publicly, anyone who wants to have a *PRIVATE* communication is up to no
good. You know, only bad people have secrets, if you aren't doing
anything bad, you won't mind everyone knowing about it.
OK, well on the face of it that sounds good, but there ARE bad
people in the world, and it is from THEM that you might want to have a
few secrets lest they use what they find out about you and your loved
ones, against you as a good person.
Remember there are two uses for the communication lines of the
world, we use them for the markets and we use them for the body politic.
We use the markets to sell what we have sown and reaped, this keeps
society going, and we use the body politic to design the markets.
So we use the comm lines as the market to do our business with each
other, but we use the comm lines as the body politic to design the way
society and the markets are going to work in the first place.
Both the market and political comm lines are the SAME PHYSICAL COMM
LINES, speech, phone, mail, e-mail, newspaper, magazines, radio, books,
TV etc.
It might be quite all right to allow a benign government to have
access to all our market based communications as an objective
disinterested referee to keep the playing field fair and square amongst
all players.
That is what we designed a government for, to enforce a fair trade
amongster buyers and sellers.
But do you really want the government to know who you are going to
vote for before you vote for them?
If you don't mind existing or competing governments knowing where
your allegiances lie, then of course you won't mind them reading your
e-mail in the name of catching the bad guys who won't be using e-mail
anyhow.
If however you feel that people in government might be worried what
the people think of them and are planning to do about them, and you
would like to discuss this stuff in e-mail with your friends PRIVATELY,
to keep you and your's safe from retribution from that government, then
you certainly don't want the government to be reading your e-mail or
listening in on any of your other communications.
Did you know that in some places on earth merely criticizing a
government is considered capital treason?
Not in America of course where we are free to criticize and crack
jokes about Home Land Security, the Patriot Act, and our governments
various ill considered or selfish wars.
Did you know that in some places on earth criticizing a government
for its prosecution of a war is also considered treason as it destroys
the moral of the soldiers and boosts the moral of the enemy?
The idea that the best way to support our men on the front is to
bring them home, is foreign to a government that is only interested in
its own personal survival and war time profiteering.
Unfortunately there is no way to tell the government "Hey you can
listen in on my market communications, but my political communications
are private!"
Now in times of great stress where the desire for safety surpasses
the desire for freedom, many will be willing to give up the freedoms to
have the safety.
We suffer searches at airports, we suffer the government to tap our
phones, and perhaps we suffer them also to tap our e-mail, all in the
name of catching the bad guys.
During acute moments of panic and trouble, this could be seen to be
a good idea.
But never to sunset it?
Democracy, if it is to mean anything, must stand on its own two
feet, it must stand on its own principles, particularly during times of
stress, otherwise it's just another has been.
Democracy is about more than the right to VOTE, it is also about
the right to SPEAK safely, in particular about the government and its
actions and intentions.
People like to claim how proud they are to be an American and they
like to spout all the great things that America stands for, but then
they fold up like a morning glory when touched by the darkness of
terror.
The morning glory democracy attracts another kind of person, they
aren't the terrorists themselves who commit all these horrific acts, but
they will sell you a subscription for a pretty penny that tells you how
bad it all is and how it will continue to be so, particularly IF YOU
CONTINUE TO BE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY STAND FOR.
We call these people the Merchants of Fear, as they profit from
violating the Constitution in the name of protecting the Constitution.
They don't just sell you the bad news and warnings, they take away your
rights in order to protect you from that danger and filling the coffers
of the military and police installed to enforce your new state of non
rights.
Sheesh, it used to be the purpose of the police was to protect your
rights, now its purpose is to protect the rights of the government
against YOU.
"Don't criticize the government, your government is perfect."
Is it even possible to protect the constitution long term by
violating the constitution short term?
Merchants of Fear however, profit from the morning glory closing up
and staying closed.
By far and way hands down the best way to make a living on Earth at
this time is to start a war and sell arms to both sides, throw the whole
place into martial law and make everyone work for YOUR living rather
than for their own.
So you end up in this hypocrisy where America is the greatest
country on Earth and we stand for all these wonderful things, but we are
always at war, so we can't enjoy any of them!
And God save you if you should speak openly or privately.
If certain people know that a democracy will fold up at the
slightest hint of trouble, then they will go out of their way to make
trouble to make sure that democracy folds up.
That is absolute, its called evil, and you can always tell evil
when someone is saying that something is for you own good, when it fact
it is for their good at your expense.
Eschew and eradicate these from your life and you will feel better
in the morning when you wake up.
If on the other hand people know the democracy will stand its
ground no matter what, there will be less incentive to cause trouble on
the part of those who would see the democracy not survive.
Then one has to ask what happens when the government BECOMES the
bad guys?
One has to have a certain level of trust in the government, the
police and the military, to allow a cop in every bedroom, and a spy in
every computer to verify the 'goodness' of our every desire, thought and
action.
When the cops come to save you from the bad guys, they are the good
guys, but when the cops come to save the government from you, they are
the bad guys.
Police are like fat, once you put them on, you can't never take
them off.
That's because the police depend for their jobs on the absence of
peace and security, once they notice that there is too much peace and
security they will sense their jobs are in danger.
Then a few of them will take covert action to CREATE threats to
peace and security so that their JOBS are secure even if you aren't.
They also get a lot of money and toys from a state of
constant war, let alone a carte blanche licence to violence,
barbarism and thuggery.
Their mothers are so proud of them!
Imagine a whole group of men with a hard on for war, a case of blue
balls that no whore can satisfy.
Many cops are addicted to power.
They aren't addicted to peace and security, but they are addicted
to OBEDIENCE through silence and compliance.
That's why no matter what a cop is doing to you or another, you
must NEVER put your hands on a cop as that is an immediate charge of
assault, don't you see?
Surely if the government were a Divine Oligarchy made of perfect
people, assigned directly by God, then perhaps omni present oversight or
the people by the government and its assigns would be a good thing.
But we are trying to create and run a Democracy in an arena of
human life filled to the brim with covert evil intention, whose sole
purpose is to squash freedoms and enslave the good to evil ends.
Do you trust your government to act divinely?
Do you even trust your own parents to act that way?
Yourself?
There is a problem with too much trust in a government and here it
is:
When law makers outlaw criminals, criminals become law makers.
When a bad guy knows he can't "get away with murder" amongst the
people, he will get himself elected into power where he will then
legislate his kind of "murder" into law so he can get away with it, and
use the police force or military to help him.
Thus any hierarchy of power is a place where bad people bubble up
into positions of power as they are cornered out of the lower ranks of
the civilian masses by the laws against criminality.
Its not that absolute power corrupts absolutely, its that absolute
power attracts rats.
It is much easier to skim off the top of society as a Senator or
Chief of Police than it is as a civilian, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE THE LAW
and ITS POLICE FORCE BEHIND YOU and its mandate towards total secrecy
and zero oversight of the government to protect you and cover you up.
Pretty soon the police state that people elected into power to
protect themselves from bad guys is itself made of bad guys making sure
the good guys stay imprisoned in their cell of protection.
And that prison cell of protection is paid for by your taxes!
Talk about Justice.
Remember when a good person builds a cell of protection that NO bad
person can get into, not even good people can get into it to let him
out.
This is why certain things that look awfully tempting during times
of stress, like giving government oversight over all communications,
namely eradication of privacy, is generally a bad idea because it opens
the doors for the criminals, who have bubbled up into positions of
power, to consolidate their power and do more bad things to the people
they were elected to protect.
The strongest force we have today for freedom of speech is the
internet, but the internet is but a one way pablum push without strong
anonymity and encryption.
These make speech SAFE.
Without SAFETY of speech, there is no protection of speech and that
isn't what people have in mind when they talk about freedom to speak.
They mean freedom to speak safely.
This is really very simple.
Strong anonymity allows people to speak publicly to everyone on
Earth without moderation, censorship, reprimand or retribution. That's
called the right to secure public congregation.
Strong encryption allows people to speak privately to those of
their own choice, and no one else. That's called the right of secure
private congregation.
Strong encryption also allows people to sign their own works so
that others can not post falsely in their name.
And lastly strong encryption allows verification of the integrity
of the communication line, what was received got there exactly as it was
said without alteration, either accidental or intentional.
Strong anonymity and encryption form a necessary and sufficient
mathematical BASIS for freedom to speak safely.
A basis is a set of vectors that together completely span
a particular space, in this case the space of freedom of speech.
This is all quite aside from the very real possibility that the
government or its handlers itself may be covertly creating those times
of stress just so they can come to your aid by putting you in a jail
cell of solitary confinement where you aren't even free to talk to
yourself any more, because of all the video cameras and microphones all
over the place.
And once they have microphones that can pick up your thoughts
directly, now you can't even think to yourself, what are you going to
do?
When the criminal knows your every thought and your every friend
ahead of time, what chance do you have?
They will take BOTH of you out just to make sure your friend hasn't
been infected by your politically incorrect thought.
And make no mistake about it, when the criminals want to control
YOU, they WILL go after your family and friends, even your jobs and
pets.
Worse, one of the first things criminals do when using power to
consolidate power, is to let more criminals into positions of power!
So the more power you give a criminal, the more criminals in power
there will be.
Now I am not into conspiracy theories, but fear creates a festering
wound where corruption, temptation and seduction can grow like a virus
without control.
Corruption is the chinks in the armor of a person's personal
integrity.
Temptation is where the light of the Devil shines through those
chinks.
Seduction is giving into the light of temptation and crushing one's
integrity under foot like a cigarette.
Once the government and the people get into the idea that its OK to
trade freedoms for security, the door is opened for the government to
engage in Merchant of Fearism itself.
Or worse CREATE threats to security in order to further justify
taking away freedoms, in order to further consolidate their own power
and personal wealth, through taxes, slavery and arms sales.
Yeah I know, maybe this is the way some body in some foreign
sleazeball government 'over there' might act, but surely no one standing
under the American Flag would ever do such a thing.
It might even be said that we have a duty to maintain freedom of
speech and we do NOT have a right to freedom from fear.
These two, freedom of speech and freedom from fear, are mutually
exclusive.
Those promising the right to freedom from fear can not provide it,
without first removing freedom to speak safely in order to provide it.
Basically once the majority of people are NO LONGER ABLE to take
out the government should it ever become corrupt, either by force or by
vote, you have, by definition, a police state.
At the point of a gun you pay your taxes so you can continue to pay
for the gun pointing at you and the mother's son pointing it.
That's called a political feedback loop.
Eventually they go screaming out of control.
A total self perpetuating lock down of freedom, so tight no one can
move, not even the cops.
Another feed back loop is when a government organization only
accepts employees of low intelligence on purpose, thus one would not
expect intelligent solutions to problems to issue from such an
organization.
Further stupid people hate smart people, so once an organzation
becomes stupid heavy, it becomes quickly stupid heavier as the stupid
persecute and push out the smart.
Just what exactly is the average IQ of the people in your
government?
But probably the most deadly feedback loop of all, is when a
government seeks only people who will obey any order regardless of their
own personal conscience in the matter.
Personal conscience is the final arbiter of any decision, someone
who has abdicated control of their conscience to another has abdicated
himself as a son of God over to the Devil.
And if there is such a thing as the Devil, THIS is what he waits
for.
As internal oversight begins to fail and those with intelligence
and a conscience are destroyed, pushed out or filtered before they are
employed, the entire government collapses into a black hole state of
criminality, that would make even the Devil blink.
Devil: "Whoa, now *THATS* evil!"
The mathematiacally inevitable result is the government becomes
saturated with people who are stupid and conscience free, and so a
monster is created with total power and control that not all the guns in
the world can kill.
A monster with a hard on for total continuous war forever for free.
And guess who the endless soldiers are?
Omni Good Work, and Omni Amen.
Thus the protections written into the constitution are there to
guarantee that such a state of affairs can never happen, and that power
will always belong to the majority of people once they wake up, and not
to a government that might have slithered its way into power during the
dream time.
Notice the best approach to an aborning police state is not force
and violent revolution but exposure.
Violence and revolution just create more cops who can never be
gotten rid of after the are installed.
The light of day, of civilian oversight, into the dark conclaves of
corruption, temptation and seduction, busts the viral wound wide open.
Thus the festering sore of a self serving government gone infected
by acting as a filter for people without conscience, intelligence or
the courage to speak out, can not long survive.
Transparency belongs to the sovereign citizen, not to the sworn
civil servant.
This is important.
Who knows what about who.
Dig it and don't leave it.
If everyone were good, we might not need our freedoms so bad, but
since half the world is bad, we do need our freedoms to protect
ourselves against the bad, even if the bad can use them too against the
good.
There is something worse than crime, drugs, copyright theft,
terrorism and child pornography.
And that is a police state.
A police state at total peace.
Peace and security through silence and compliance.
Everyone agreed to be a brick in the wall.
Homer
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The feeling is that people of good heart will always speak up
publicly, anyone who wants to have a *PRIVATE* communication is up to no
good. You know, only bad people have secrets, if you aren't doing
anything bad, you won't mind everyone knowing about it.
OK, well on the face of it that sounds good, but there ARE bad
people in the world, and it is from THEM that you might want to have a
few secrets lest they use what they find out about you and your loved
ones, against you as a good person.
Remember there are two uses for the communication lines of the
world, we use them for the markets and we use them for the body politic.
We use the markets to sell what we have sown and reaped, this keeps
society going, and we use the body politic to design the markets.
So we use the comm lines as the market to do our business with each
other, but we use the comm lines as the body politic to design the way
society and the markets are going to work in the first place.
Both the market and political comm lines are the SAME PHYSICAL COMM
LINES, speech, phone, mail, e-mail, newspaper, magazines, radio, books,
TV etc.
It might be quite all right to allow a benign government to have
access to all our market based communications as an objective
disinterested referee to keep the playing field fair and square amongst
all players.
That is what we designed a government for, to enforce a fair trade
amongster buyers and sellers.
But do you really want the government to know who you are going to
vote for before you vote for them?
If you don't mind existing or competing governments knowing where
your allegiances lie, then of course you won't mind them reading your
e-mail in the name of catching the bad guys who won't be using e-mail
anyhow.
If however you feel that people in government might be worried what
the people think of them and are planning to do about them, and you
would like to discuss this stuff in e-mail with your friends PRIVATELY,
to keep you and your's safe from retribution from that government, then
you certainly don't want the government to be reading your e-mail or
listening in on any of your other communications.
Did you know that in some places on earth merely criticizing a
government is considered capital treason?
Not in America of course where we are free to criticize and crack
jokes about Home Land Security, the Patriot Act, and our governments
various ill considered or selfish wars.
Did you know that in some places on earth criticizing a government
for its prosecution of a war is also considered treason as it destroys
the moral of the soldiers and boosts the moral of the enemy?
The idea that the best way to support our men on the front is to
bring them home, is foreign to a government that is only interested in
its own personal survival and war time profiteering.
Unfortunately there is no way to tell the government "Hey you can
listen in on my market communications, but my political communications
are private!"
Now in times of great stress where the desire for safety surpasses
the desire for freedom, many will be willing to give up the freedoms to
have the safety.
We suffer searches at airports, we suffer the government to tap our
phones, and perhaps we suffer them also to tap our e-mail, all in the
name of catching the bad guys.
During acute moments of panic and trouble, this could be seen to be
a good idea.
But never to sunset it?
Democracy, if it is to mean anything, must stand on its own two
feet, it must stand on its own principles, particularly during times of
stress, otherwise it's just another has been.
Democracy is about more than the right to VOTE, it is also about
the right to SPEAK safely, in particular about the government and its
actions and intentions.
People like to claim how proud they are to be an American and they
like to spout all the great things that America stands for, but then
they fold up like a morning glory when touched by the darkness of
terror.
The morning glory democracy attracts another kind of person, they
aren't the terrorists themselves who commit all these horrific acts, but
they will sell you a subscription for a pretty penny that tells you how
bad it all is and how it will continue to be so, particularly IF YOU
CONTINUE TO BE WHAT YOU ACTUALLY STAND FOR.
We call these people the Merchants of Fear, as they profit from
violating the Constitution in the name of protecting the Constitution.
They don't just sell you the bad news and warnings, they take away your
rights in order to protect you from that danger and filling the coffers
of the military and police installed to enforce your new state of non
rights.
Sheesh, it used to be the purpose of the police was to protect your
rights, now its purpose is to protect the rights of the government
against YOU.
"Don't criticize the government, your government is perfect."
Is it even possible to protect the constitution long term by
violating the constitution short term?
Merchants of Fear however, profit from the morning glory closing up
and staying closed.
By far and way hands down the best way to make a living on Earth at
this time is to start a war and sell arms to both sides, throw the whole
place into martial law and make everyone work for YOUR living rather
than for their own.
So you end up in this hypocrisy where America is the greatest
country on Earth and we stand for all these wonderful things, but we are
always at war, so we can't enjoy any of them!
And God save you if you should speak openly or privately.
If certain people know that a democracy will fold up at the
slightest hint of trouble, then they will go out of their way to make
trouble to make sure that democracy folds up.
That is absolute, its called evil, and you can always tell evil
when someone is saying that something is for you own good, when it fact
it is for their good at your expense.
Eschew and eradicate these from your life and you will feel better
in the morning when you wake up.
If on the other hand people know the democracy will stand its
ground no matter what, there will be less incentive to cause trouble on
the part of those who would see the democracy not survive.
Then one has to ask what happens when the government BECOMES the
bad guys?
One has to have a certain level of trust in the government, the
police and the military, to allow a cop in every bedroom, and a spy in
every computer to verify the 'goodness' of our every desire, thought and
action.
When the cops come to save you from the bad guys, they are the good
guys, but when the cops come to save the government from you, they are
the bad guys.
Police are like fat, once you put them on, you can't never take
them off.
That's because the police depend for their jobs on the absence of
peace and security, once they notice that there is too much peace and
security they will sense their jobs are in danger.
Then a few of them will take covert action to CREATE threats to
peace and security so that their JOBS are secure even if you aren't.
They also get a lot of money and toys from a state of
constant war, let alone a carte blanche licence to violence,
barbarism and thuggery.
Their mothers are so proud of them!
Imagine a whole group of men with a hard on for war, a case of blue
balls that no whore can satisfy.
Many cops are addicted to power.
They aren't addicted to peace and security, but they are addicted
to OBEDIENCE through silence and compliance.
That's why no matter what a cop is doing to you or another, you
must NEVER put your hands on a cop as that is an immediate charge of
assault, don't you see?
Surely if the government were a Divine Oligarchy made of perfect
people, assigned directly by God, then perhaps omni present oversight or
the people by the government and its assigns would be a good thing.
But we are trying to create and run a Democracy in an arena of
human life filled to the brim with covert evil intention, whose sole
purpose is to squash freedoms and enslave the good to evil ends.
Do you trust your government to act divinely?
Do you even trust your own parents to act that way?
Yourself?
There is a problem with too much trust in a government and here it
is:
When law makers outlaw criminals, criminals become law makers.
When a bad guy knows he can't "get away with murder" amongst the
people, he will get himself elected into power where he will then
legislate his kind of "murder" into law so he can get away with it, and
use the police force or military to help him.
Thus any hierarchy of power is a place where bad people bubble up
into positions of power as they are cornered out of the lower ranks of
the civilian masses by the laws against criminality.
Its not that absolute power corrupts absolutely, its that absolute
power attracts rats.
It is much easier to skim off the top of society as a Senator or
Chief of Police than it is as a civilian, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE THE LAW
and ITS POLICE FORCE BEHIND YOU and its mandate towards total secrecy
and zero oversight of the government to protect you and cover you up.
Pretty soon the police state that people elected into power to
protect themselves from bad guys is itself made of bad guys making sure
the good guys stay imprisoned in their cell of protection.
And that prison cell of protection is paid for by your taxes!
Talk about Justice.
Remember when a good person builds a cell of protection that NO bad
person can get into, not even good people can get into it to let him
out.
This is why certain things that look awfully tempting during times
of stress, like giving government oversight over all communications,
namely eradication of privacy, is generally a bad idea because it opens
the doors for the criminals, who have bubbled up into positions of
power, to consolidate their power and do more bad things to the people
they were elected to protect.
The strongest force we have today for freedom of speech is the
internet, but the internet is but a one way pablum push without strong
anonymity and encryption.
These make speech SAFE.
Without SAFETY of speech, there is no protection of speech and that
isn't what people have in mind when they talk about freedom to speak.
They mean freedom to speak safely.
This is really very simple.
Strong anonymity allows people to speak publicly to everyone on
Earth without moderation, censorship, reprimand or retribution. That's
called the right to secure public congregation.
Strong encryption allows people to speak privately to those of
their own choice, and no one else. That's called the right of secure
private congregation.
Strong encryption also allows people to sign their own works so
that others can not post falsely in their name.
And lastly strong encryption allows verification of the integrity
of the communication line, what was received got there exactly as it was
said without alteration, either accidental or intentional.
Strong anonymity and encryption form a necessary and sufficient
mathematical BASIS for freedom to speak safely.
A basis is a set of vectors that together completely span
a particular space, in this case the space of freedom of speech.
This is all quite aside from the very real possibility that the
government or its handlers itself may be covertly creating those times
of stress just so they can come to your aid by putting you in a jail
cell of solitary confinement where you aren't even free to talk to
yourself any more, because of all the video cameras and microphones all
over the place.
And once they have microphones that can pick up your thoughts
directly, now you can't even think to yourself, what are you going to
do?
When the criminal knows your every thought and your every friend
ahead of time, what chance do you have?
They will take BOTH of you out just to make sure your friend hasn't
been infected by your politically incorrect thought.
And make no mistake about it, when the criminals want to control
YOU, they WILL go after your family and friends, even your jobs and
pets.
Worse, one of the first things criminals do when using power to
consolidate power, is to let more criminals into positions of power!
So the more power you give a criminal, the more criminals in power
there will be.
Now I am not into conspiracy theories, but fear creates a festering
wound where corruption, temptation and seduction can grow like a virus
without control.
Corruption is the chinks in the armor of a person's personal
integrity.
Temptation is where the light of the Devil shines through those
chinks.
Seduction is giving into the light of temptation and crushing one's
integrity under foot like a cigarette.
Once the government and the people get into the idea that its OK to
trade freedoms for security, the door is opened for the government to
engage in Merchant of Fearism itself.
Or worse CREATE threats to security in order to further justify
taking away freedoms, in order to further consolidate their own power
and personal wealth, through taxes, slavery and arms sales.
Yeah I know, maybe this is the way some body in some foreign
sleazeball government 'over there' might act, but surely no one standing
under the American Flag would ever do such a thing.
It might even be said that we have a duty to maintain freedom of
speech and we do NOT have a right to freedom from fear.
These two, freedom of speech and freedom from fear, are mutually
exclusive.
Those promising the right to freedom from fear can not provide it,
without first removing freedom to speak safely in order to provide it.
Basically once the majority of people are NO LONGER ABLE to take
out the government should it ever become corrupt, either by force or by
vote, you have, by definition, a police state.
At the point of a gun you pay your taxes so you can continue to pay
for the gun pointing at you and the mother's son pointing it.
That's called a political feedback loop.
Eventually they go screaming out of control.
A total self perpetuating lock down of freedom, so tight no one can
move, not even the cops.
Another feed back loop is when a government organization only
accepts employees of low intelligence on purpose, thus one would not
expect intelligent solutions to problems to issue from such an
organization.
Further stupid people hate smart people, so once an organzation
becomes stupid heavy, it becomes quickly stupid heavier as the stupid
persecute and push out the smart.
Just what exactly is the average IQ of the people in your
government?
But probably the most deadly feedback loop of all, is when a
government seeks only people who will obey any order regardless of their
own personal conscience in the matter.
Personal conscience is the final arbiter of any decision, someone
who has abdicated control of their conscience to another has abdicated
himself as a son of God over to the Devil.
And if there is such a thing as the Devil, THIS is what he waits
for.
As internal oversight begins to fail and those with intelligence
and a conscience are destroyed, pushed out or filtered before they are
employed, the entire government collapses into a black hole state of
criminality, that would make even the Devil blink.
Devil: "Whoa, now *THATS* evil!"
The mathematiacally inevitable result is the government becomes
saturated with people who are stupid and conscience free, and so a
monster is created with total power and control that not all the guns in
the world can kill.
A monster with a hard on for total continuous war forever for free.
And guess who the endless soldiers are?
Omni Good Work, and Omni Amen.
Thus the protections written into the constitution are there to
guarantee that such a state of affairs can never happen, and that power
will always belong to the majority of people once they wake up, and not
to a government that might have slithered its way into power during the
dream time.
Notice the best approach to an aborning police state is not force
and violent revolution but exposure.
Violence and revolution just create more cops who can never be
gotten rid of after the are installed.
The light of day, of civilian oversight, into the dark conclaves of
corruption, temptation and seduction, busts the viral wound wide open.
Thus the festering sore of a self serving government gone infected
by acting as a filter for people without conscience, intelligence or
the courage to speak out, can not long survive.
Transparency belongs to the sovereign citizen, not to the sworn
civil servant.
This is important.
Who knows what about who.
Dig it and don't leave it.
If everyone were good, we might not need our freedoms so bad, but
since half the world is bad, we do need our freedoms to protect
ourselves against the bad, even if the bad can use them too against the
good.
There is something worse than crime, drugs, copyright theft,
terrorism and child pornography.
And that is a police state.
A police state at total peace.
Peace and security through silence and compliance.
Everyone agreed to be a brick in the wall.
Homer
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COMMANDINGNESS
It has to do with failed commandingness.
Commandingness is like Hubbard's Tone 40.0, probably a bit more
efforty than it should be but the being has been trying to command things
in and out of existence for a long time.
Commandingness is sort of like God saying "Let there be light!" and
getting or not getting any :).
One can run
(If commandingness worked...)
"What would you command?"
"What would you not command?"
This brings up failures and problems with having ability real quick.
The sinking feeling of "Oh my God, I want that but I don't want that"
what am I to do?! This leaves one in a suspended or interrupted state of
TWO incomplete comanndingnesses. One starts it but doesn't complete it.
Like holding one's wand up in the air to start waving some magic and then
never lowering it again lest something happen.
It also spans all dynamics from commanding more business to come in,
to commanding world peace etc.
One also sees that one is tring to command amongst a world
of non commanders etc.
As an aside, on prep check buttons it is also highly useful to run the
sub questions on each item. For example if "Has anything been
suppressed?" reads run:
Are you suppressing?
Do you Suppress?
Is it Suppressing?
Who are you suppressing?
How are you suppressing?
What are you suppressing?
Where are you suppressing?
When are you suppressing?
Why are you suppressing?
Which are you suppressing?
Run it round robin style, each question until flat, no change,
no interest, no answers etc, then on to next question round and round.
The who, how, what, where, when, why and which are real powerful but
once in a while one just has to notice that one is suppressing, the
do/is/are gets at that without plaguing about details.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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COMMANDINGNESS
It has to do with failed commandingness.
Commandingness is like Hubbard's Tone 40.0, probably a bit more
efforty than it should be but the being has been trying to command things
in and out of existence for a long time.
Commandingness is sort of like God saying "Let there be light!" and
getting or not getting any :).
One can run
(If commandingness worked...)
"What would you command?"
"What would you not command?"
This brings up failures and problems with having ability real quick.
The sinking feeling of "Oh my God, I want that but I don't want that"
what am I to do?! This leaves one in a suspended or interrupted state of
TWO incomplete comanndingnesses. One starts it but doesn't complete it.
Like holding one's wand up in the air to start waving some magic and then
never lowering it again lest something happen.
It also spans all dynamics from commanding more business to come in,
to commanding world peace etc.
One also sees that one is tring to command amongst a world
of non commanders etc.
As an aside, on prep check buttons it is also highly useful to run the
sub questions on each item. For example if "Has anything been
suppressed?" reads run:
Are you suppressing?
Do you Suppress?
Is it Suppressing?
Who are you suppressing?
How are you suppressing?
What are you suppressing?
Where are you suppressing?
When are you suppressing?
Why are you suppressing?
Which are you suppressing?
Run it round robin style, each question until flat, no change,
no interest, no answers etc, then on to next question round and round.
The who, how, what, where, when, why and which are real powerful but
once in a while one just has to notice that one is suppressing, the
do/is/are gets at that without plaguing about details.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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THE WIND BETWEEN THE EARS
ACT - 89
14 August 1995
Copyright (C) 1995 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
You can not start a philosophy with the axiom
That all axioms are necessarily false,
That all statements of truth are false,
That it is true there are no truths,
That all generalizations are false,
That there are no absolutes,
That it is provable that nothing is provable,
That perfect certainty is perfectly and certainly impossible.
That you doubt that you doubt.
That you don't know if you don't know.
That the logic of "is" and "is not" *IS* illogical,
That is is isn't and isn't is is,
That isn't is not isn't, and is is not is,
That the word 'is' *IS* meaningless and conveys nothing,
That the word 'is' *IS* the same thing as "is not",
That something can both be and not be at the same time, or doesn't
have to be or not be if it doesn't want to,
That ALL truths DEFINITELY lie on a gradient scale of truth value,
including this one,
or
That ALL beliefs are arbitrarily chosen to suit one's mood,
including this one."
You can always know such a person, they will read the above and say
"Yeah your are right!"
When you finally corner someone on these matters they will first
try to evade you by saying "Homer you are just trying to trap me in your
silly word games and illogic."
When you press them further on it they will finally say "Homer you
are quite right, my position is wholly untenable, but I choose to live
by it anyhow."
This is the last ditch effort of a service facsimile to be right
inspite of certain evidence to the contrary. They choose to believe as
an arbitrary act of whim and caprice and no longer because of the truth
value of what they believe.
These are minds that do not work.
They look without seeing, or without incorporating what they see
into what they believe.
The only "truths" these minds can wrap their wits around are self
denying "truths".
These sum up to "I don't know if I am", or worse "I know I am not."
These are people who do not know FOR SURE if anything exists
including themselves, they doubt that they doubt, they wonder if they
wonder, they question if they question.
They doubt ALL certainties BY POLICY, not because they have
observed with certainty that perfect certainties do not exist.
If you ask them if they are certain their policy is correct, they
will say no, they are uncertain that they are uncertain of everything,
which is as consistent as it is nuts, and that the self consistency of
their POLICY adds to its validity.
In other words there is no continuity director home in the brain to
verify the statements being issued by the tongue.
They say "Maybe I don't exist, how would I know?"
You could suggest that a nothing could not wonder if it were a
nothing or a something, but your efforts would be futile.
Someone at this level is no longer interested in knowing the truth,
they are interested only in 'being right'.
And the best way to be safely right on everything is to claim
"There is no right."
No matter how high these people are, no matter how many certs they
have on the wall, they are quite dead in the head, their needle floats
only because it is waving in the wind that passes between their ears.
And they are living danger itself to life and those around them who
know they exist, hurt, and who know that they know, and who know that
they don't know.
IT ISN'T POSSIBLE TO BE UNCERTAIN IF YOU ARE UNCERTAIN, TO DOUBT
THAT YOU DOUBT, OR TO NOT KNOW IF YOU NOT KNOW.
Thus uncertainty, doubt, and not knowing are all THEMSELVES perfect
certainties, and the awake mind that can deal with perfect certainties
and know them for what they are, can know this.
Perfect certainty of doubt is the beginning of personal integrity
even if you have no doubts.
To doubt this is to prove it.
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THE WIND BETWEEN THE EARS
ACT - 89
14 August 1995
Copyright (C) 1995 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
You can not start a philosophy with the axiom
That all axioms are necessarily false,
That all statements of truth are false,
That it is true there are no truths,
That all generalizations are false,
That there are no absolutes,
That it is provable that nothing is provable,
That perfect certainty is perfectly and certainly impossible.
That you doubt that you doubt.
That you don't know if you don't know.
That the logic of "is" and "is not" *IS* illogical,
That is is isn't and isn't is is,
That isn't is not isn't, and is is not is,
That the word 'is' *IS* meaningless and conveys nothing,
That the word 'is' *IS* the same thing as "is not",
That something can both be and not be at the same time, or doesn't
have to be or not be if it doesn't want to,
That ALL truths DEFINITELY lie on a gradient scale of truth value,
including this one,
or
That ALL beliefs are arbitrarily chosen to suit one's mood,
including this one."
You can always know such a person, they will read the above and say
"Yeah your are right!"
When you finally corner someone on these matters they will first
try to evade you by saying "Homer you are just trying to trap me in your
silly word games and illogic."
When you press them further on it they will finally say "Homer you
are quite right, my position is wholly untenable, but I choose to live
by it anyhow."
This is the last ditch effort of a service facsimile to be right
inspite of certain evidence to the contrary. They choose to believe as
an arbitrary act of whim and caprice and no longer because of the truth
value of what they believe.
These are minds that do not work.
They look without seeing, or without incorporating what they see
into what they believe.
The only "truths" these minds can wrap their wits around are self
denying "truths".
These sum up to "I don't know if I am", or worse "I know I am not."
These are people who do not know FOR SURE if anything exists
including themselves, they doubt that they doubt, they wonder if they
wonder, they question if they question.
They doubt ALL certainties BY POLICY, not because they have
observed with certainty that perfect certainties do not exist.
If you ask them if they are certain their policy is correct, they
will say no, they are uncertain that they are uncertain of everything,
which is as consistent as it is nuts, and that the self consistency of
their POLICY adds to its validity.
In other words there is no continuity director home in the brain to
verify the statements being issued by the tongue.
They say "Maybe I don't exist, how would I know?"
You could suggest that a nothing could not wonder if it were a
nothing or a something, but your efforts would be futile.
Someone at this level is no longer interested in knowing the truth,
they are interested only in 'being right'.
And the best way to be safely right on everything is to claim
"There is no right."
No matter how high these people are, no matter how many certs they
have on the wall, they are quite dead in the head, their needle floats
only because it is waving in the wind that passes between their ears.
And they are living danger itself to life and those around them who
know they exist, hurt, and who know that they know, and who know that
they don't know.
IT ISN'T POSSIBLE TO BE UNCERTAIN IF YOU ARE UNCERTAIN, TO DOUBT
THAT YOU DOUBT, OR TO NOT KNOW IF YOU NOT KNOW.
Thus uncertainty, doubt, and not knowing are all THEMSELVES perfect
certainties, and the awake mind that can deal with perfect certainties
and know them for what they are, can know this.
Perfect certainty of doubt is the beginning of personal integrity
even if you have no doubts.
To doubt this is to prove it.
Homer
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A SIMPLEST PROCESS II
Run to a win.
Get the idea of space in front of you.
Get the idea of space behind you.
Get the idea of space to the right of you.
Get the idea of space to the left of you.
Get the idea of space above you.
Get the idea of space below you.
Run to a win.
Get the idea of a future.
Get the idea of a past.
Get the idea of a present.
Much better to dual, and swap roles with auditor often.
It is two way communication that makes auditing stirr up stuff
to as-is, the process is important also, but a live comm line to a trusted
terminal magnifies it by 1000.
Homer
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On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, AAndrade wrote:
> I am back to reading Adore posts, to collect some Processes I can do Solo.
>
> thank you.
>
> Adal
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Homer Wilson Smith
> <HomerWSmith@lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> ?? ??All of adore materials is at
> ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/homer
>
> ?? ??There is lots more than 600 :)
>
> ?? ??There is no organization to it, its just one long research
> record
> except for the material on the proof at
> http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
>
> ?? ??Postualte Processing is best found by googleing
>
> ?? ??scientology postulate processing.
>
> ?? ??Bob Ross's work is mostly lost after his death.
>
> ?? ??Homer
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Homer Wilson Smith?? ??Clean Air, Clear Water,?? ?? Art Matrix -
> Lightlink
> (607) 277-0959?? ?? ?? ??A Green Earth, and Peace,?? Internet, Ithaca
> NY
> homer@lightlink.com?? Is that too much to ask???
> ??http://www.lightlink.com
>
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, AAndrade wrote:
>
> Hi Homer, I've been lately reading much of your
> ADORE teachings on your
> site. I wonder If you have put together all ADORE
> teachings in a single
> book. I am copy/pasting ??a Word doc but the number
> of articles with the
> subject ADORE is over 600, and many of them is just
> some comments from
> readers about some previous article.??
>
>
> Also I found an article on "Postulate Processing"
> offer by Bob Ross which I
> know he past away some years ago.?? Do you know where
> can I buy or get this
> process from ???
>
>
>
> thank you .??
>
> adal
>
>
>
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
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A SIMPLEST PROCESS II
Run to a win.
Get the idea of space in front of you.
Get the idea of space behind you.
Get the idea of space to the right of you.
Get the idea of space to the left of you.
Get the idea of space above you.
Get the idea of space below you.
Run to a win.
Get the idea of a future.
Get the idea of a past.
Get the idea of a present.
Much better to dual, and swap roles with auditor often.
It is two way communication that makes auditing stirr up stuff
to as-is, the process is important also, but a live comm line to a trusted
terminal magnifies it by 1000.
Homer
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(607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
homer@lightlink.com Is that too much to ask? http://www.lightlink.com
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015, AAndrade wrote:
> I am back to reading Adore posts, to collect some Processes I can do Solo.
>
> thank you.
>
> Adal
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Homer Wilson Smith
> <HomerWSmith@lightlink.com> wrote:
>
> ?? ??All of adore materials is at
> ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/homer
>
> ?? ??There is lots more than 600 :)
>
> ?? ??There is no organization to it, its just one long research
> record
> except for the material on the proof at
> http://www.lightlink.com/theproof
>
> ?? ??Postualte Processing is best found by googleing
>
> ?? ??scientology postulate processing.
>
> ?? ??Bob Ross's work is mostly lost after his death.
>
> ?? ??Homer
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Homer Wilson Smith?? ??Clean Air, Clear Water,?? ?? Art Matrix -
> Lightlink
> (607) 277-0959?? ?? ?? ??A Green Earth, and Peace,?? Internet, Ithaca
> NY
> homer@lightlink.com?? Is that too much to ask???
> ??http://www.lightlink.com
>
> On Sat, 25 Oct 2014, AAndrade wrote:
>
> Hi Homer, I've been lately reading much of your
> ADORE teachings on your
> site. I wonder If you have put together all ADORE
> teachings in a single
> book. I am copy/pasting ??a Word doc but the number
> of articles with the
> subject ADORE is over 600, and many of them is just
> some comments from
> readers about some previous article.??
>
>
> Also I found an article on "Postulate Processing"
> offer by Bob Ross which I
> know he past away some years ago.?? Do you know where
> can I buy or get this
> process from ???
>
>
>
> thank you .??
>
> adal
>
>
>
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COMMISSION AND COMMITMENT
One day the thetan is hanging out in Native State, just fine
thank you, and suddenly he says "Whoa, what's that green pyramid doing
there!?"
You see that's a postulate: "There is a green pyramid".
Now if that's all he did was say "There's a green pyramid", it
probably wouldn't last too long because that's an as-isness. Pretty
soon his attention wanders over to that purple sphere over there, and
the green pyramid is *GONE*, nothing left of it at all, not even a
memory.
Everything is new and all that is, in native state.
In order to keep the pyramid around, the being has to commit to
the postulate. He first says "There is a green pyramid", and then he
says "Now what do I DO about it?"
Doing is added creation, the idea that one has to do something
about it in the first place is added significance, and so the
postulate has become a problem: he has to do something about it.
So he sets off to build a temple around the pyramid. Well the
temple is just more postulates, but it sure is a COMMITMENT to the
original postulate that the pyramid is there, so you see how that is
going to make the green pyramid really solid and hard to as-is?
Of course the temple, being just more postulate, will soon as-is
itself, unless he continues with "Well now I have a temple, what am I
going to DO about that!"
And so he builds a city around the temple, which is a huge
commitment to the temple, which itself was a commitment to the
pyramid.
You see the thetan has a problem here, if he just sits back and
says "Well now I have a city and that's that!" the city will soon
dissolve on him, as-is, leaving the temple all alone again.
If he says "Well that's ok!" the temple will also dissolve
leaving him with the green pyramid all alone again.
And if he says "That's OK!" too, the pyramid will be gone shortly
leaving the thetan back at the big OK in the sky called native state.
So in order to keep anything around, the being has to commit
something to it, "That's NOT OK!", and then he has to DO something about
it.
And in order to keep THAT around, he has to commit more to that
too, ad infinitum. This produces time and the quest for survival by
becoming.
The first thing a being does to commit to any postulate is consider
"That's NOT OK!" and ASK A QUESTION ABOUT IT, perhaps like "What should I
DO about it?"
Or he asks "What is that? Where did it come from? Who made it?
What should I do about it? :)"
Each one of these questions is begging for an answer, and any
effort, emotion, thought, matter, energy space or time that the being
commits to asking or answering these questions is just so much temple
and city built around the original postulate.
Now Hubbard taught us to assign proper responsibility for any
creation in order to vanish it.
So the being asks "Who created that!" and answers it with "I did!"
or "Joe did!"
But you see these are ANSWERS. They don't get rid of the question,
they fix the question in space and time along with the answer. That's
not an as-isness, that's a persistence.
It's right there on the wall of the temple, "Who created this
pyramid?" - "Joe did!"
So now you have both pyramid, temple AND question and answer
persisting!
AS LONG AS THE ANSWER PERSISTS THE QUESTION WILL PERSIST AND SO
WILL THE POSTULATE THAT THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT.
It's sort of like this,
Pyramid -> Temple -> City Postulate -> Question -> Answer
The answer keeps it all going!
Then you can have wrong answers, so people can THEN DO something
about the wrong answers like get into wars and such, that will really
keep things going.
But as long as you have ANY answer, right or wrong, and anyone
cares about it, and nurtures it, and teaches it, and keeps it going etc,
then the whole chain will remain in existence.
So if the being wants to as-is the pyramid, what does he have to
do?
First he has to start spotting the answers and questions and stop
answering them, until the QUESTIONS VANISH. An answered question is not
a vanished question, but a quiescent persisting question answer pair.
You know, edercation.
The being has to cease committing to answering the question before
the question will as-is. It has to be OK to not know.
Once he can get back to no questions about the pyramid, not even a
memory of them (the questions or answers), just completely all gone as if
they were never there, then once he has as-ised all his later commitments
to the pyramid, and the pyramid will start to vanish on its own too.
Questions are formed during moments of impingement. Heavy
impingement or impact is an engram.
Impingement means, there is nothing there -> there is something
there.
Questions about something being there, continue the postulate
that something is there. We call that precommitting to the postulate.
"Why is it there" precommits to "It is there." See?
An as-isness of something there starts with the total cessation of
questions and answers about the something being there and all the other
significance and sought significance added onto it later to deal with it
being there.
Homer
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COMMISSION AND COMMITMENT
One day the thetan is hanging out in Native State, just fine
thank you, and suddenly he says "Whoa, what's that green pyramid doing
there!?"
You see that's a postulate: "There is a green pyramid".
Now if that's all he did was say "There's a green pyramid", it
probably wouldn't last too long because that's an as-isness. Pretty
soon his attention wanders over to that purple sphere over there, and
the green pyramid is *GONE*, nothing left of it at all, not even a
memory.
Everything is new and all that is, in native state.
In order to keep the pyramid around, the being has to commit to
the postulate. He first says "There is a green pyramid", and then he
says "Now what do I DO about it?"
Doing is added creation, the idea that one has to do something
about it in the first place is added significance, and so the
postulate has become a problem: he has to do something about it.
So he sets off to build a temple around the pyramid. Well the
temple is just more postulates, but it sure is a COMMITMENT to the
original postulate that the pyramid is there, so you see how that is
going to make the green pyramid really solid and hard to as-is?
Of course the temple, being just more postulate, will soon as-is
itself, unless he continues with "Well now I have a temple, what am I
going to DO about that!"
And so he builds a city around the temple, which is a huge
commitment to the temple, which itself was a commitment to the
pyramid.
You see the thetan has a problem here, if he just sits back and
says "Well now I have a city and that's that!" the city will soon
dissolve on him, as-is, leaving the temple all alone again.
If he says "Well that's ok!" the temple will also dissolve
leaving him with the green pyramid all alone again.
And if he says "That's OK!" too, the pyramid will be gone shortly
leaving the thetan back at the big OK in the sky called native state.
So in order to keep anything around, the being has to commit
something to it, "That's NOT OK!", and then he has to DO something about
it.
And in order to keep THAT around, he has to commit more to that
too, ad infinitum. This produces time and the quest for survival by
becoming.
The first thing a being does to commit to any postulate is consider
"That's NOT OK!" and ASK A QUESTION ABOUT IT, perhaps like "What should I
DO about it?"
Or he asks "What is that? Where did it come from? Who made it?
What should I do about it? :)"
Each one of these questions is begging for an answer, and any
effort, emotion, thought, matter, energy space or time that the being
commits to asking or answering these questions is just so much temple
and city built around the original postulate.
Now Hubbard taught us to assign proper responsibility for any
creation in order to vanish it.
So the being asks "Who created that!" and answers it with "I did!"
or "Joe did!"
But you see these are ANSWERS. They don't get rid of the question,
they fix the question in space and time along with the answer. That's
not an as-isness, that's a persistence.
It's right there on the wall of the temple, "Who created this
pyramid?" - "Joe did!"
So now you have both pyramid, temple AND question and answer
persisting!
AS LONG AS THE ANSWER PERSISTS THE QUESTION WILL PERSIST AND SO
WILL THE POSTULATE THAT THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT.
It's sort of like this,
Pyramid -> Temple -> City Postulate -> Question -> Answer
The answer keeps it all going!
Then you can have wrong answers, so people can THEN DO something
about the wrong answers like get into wars and such, that will really
keep things going.
But as long as you have ANY answer, right or wrong, and anyone
cares about it, and nurtures it, and teaches it, and keeps it going etc,
then the whole chain will remain in existence.
So if the being wants to as-is the pyramid, what does he have to
do?
First he has to start spotting the answers and questions and stop
answering them, until the QUESTIONS VANISH. An answered question is not
a vanished question, but a quiescent persisting question answer pair.
You know, edercation.
The being has to cease committing to answering the question before
the question will as-is. It has to be OK to not know.
Once he can get back to no questions about the pyramid, not even a
memory of them (the questions or answers), just completely all gone as if
they were never there, then once he has as-ised all his later commitments
to the pyramid, and the pyramid will start to vanish on its own too.
Questions are formed during moments of impingement. Heavy
impingement or impact is an engram.
Impingement means, there is nothing there -> there is something
there.
Questions about something being there, continue the postulate
that something is there. We call that precommitting to the postulate.
"Why is it there" precommits to "It is there." See?
An as-isness of something there starts with the total cessation of
questions and answers about the something being there and all the other
significance and sought significance added onto it later to deal with it
being there.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ONEPHIL (fwd)
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ONE PHILOSOPHY
One reason I am opposed to any one philsophy becoming The Philsophy
for the universe, is that all philosophies, to the degree that they are
stated in words, are wrong. It is impossible to have a persisting
philosophy that is not alterised in some fashion.
A Persisting Wrongness acts like an Anchor Point.
Having One Persisting Wrongness over the whole universe would
collapse all of space and time to a point that would not be an
as-isness.
It takes 4 persisting objects to have a space, a person with only 2
friends is sunk. A person with 3 friends will survive, as makes the
4th.
So it takes a mininum of 4 persisting philosophies, competing with
each other in such a way as to never subsume each other, to allow space
and time to prosper and flourish. Each acts as an anchor point in the
space time arena.
The minute they all become One Philosophy, space and time
collapses, just as if all your anchor points melded into One Anchor
Point.
Now this applies to a.c.t. also. Presently it consists mostly of
Homer and Clear-l, and those that have joined Homer and Clear-L, and
reposts by Homer and Clear-l of other's work.
Yes there is some of other's work, but its all under Homer, Homer
Homer Homer Homer Homer.... yeccch. No wonder I am so irate.
Now if we had accept-l and trom-l and noodlezone-l and clear-l all
feeding independently into a.c.t., then for one everyone would be more
motivated to read a.c.t rather than veg out on clear-l, and we would
have our much needed 4 independent spaces.
The single most deadly thing that will in fact destroy us all, not
only the freezone, is not Homer, but the newbie's propensity to hide out
on private lists seeking safe spaces and 'supportive environments'.
They want their covert suppressive assholes treated well.
There is no more dangerous solution than a safe solution, and there
is no more dangerous space than a safe space. Humans of course can not
understand this logic, it sounds dangerously cracked to them, they will
go to great measures to destroy those who consider it, but then such
humans are seeking a safe space.
The short term benefits of what they seek are illusory compared to
the long term disaster that awaits them from accumulated *LOUSY*
postulates.
There is a safe space, its called Eternal Omni Sovereignty, but
I'll tell you something, that safe space is more dangerous than any
other space you can imagine, as it is the source of all dangerous
spaces.
That space can and will cast dangerous spaces forever for free.
Now I have called a New Unit of Time for a while with Allen to see
what he and others really want a.c.t. and the internet to become.
It's more a Time Out while I get to reevaluate what every one is
saying.
And besides while Allen is cooled out, I get to sleep better.
But its REALLY unfair for people to want me to change on clear-l so
that they don't have to crawl out of their squirrel hole private lists
and come out in the open and be heard.
They want Homer to be polite so they can lurk or maybe put out a
pittance and not have their views trampled on.
David's comments to Mary added up to basically shut up. Jacobus's
comments to all of us added up to basically shut up and be polite.
This stems from ENORMOUS PTSness, PTSness that arises when we try
to win over people who are important to us, but who are real assholes,
people who won't come over to clearing unless clearing fits their
concept of a safe space, which is basically one where no one ever says
anything disturbing to them. Mainly no one holds a mirror up to them.
At best they want to become a well and happy Mud Puppie, one who
can once again behave properly so that God, or the powers that be, will
approve of them and let them into heaven where they don't have to deal
with anything any more. That's how they define Heaven: No Longer Have
To Deal With.
At worst they want to be better able to control everyone to live
their lives for them so they take the reward while others take the risk.
They certainly don't want any mirrors in the room, even if they
aren't pointed at them.
An OT is a very dangerous thing. An OT can not be harmed, but as
self creator he is sure going to try. And they come armed with an
attitude and sense of AESTHETICS that would make any human being's hair
stand on end.
Run "Beautiful Evil" and "Evil Beauty" for a while if you want to
know what I mean.
More like "Beautiful Incomprehensibility" and "Incomprehensible
Beauty".
An OT is not an improved human being. An OT MAKES human beings and
AS them, throws himself into the pit.
An OT is a very dangerous thing to human beings. We can not, and
must not let the arena for producing OT's be constrained by human
beings, for those who are truely trying to become OT, and not just
better human beings, will burn us for it one day.
As Filbert said, only 1 in 10,000 want to become OT in this life
time. The rest want something else. Clear-L is for those 1 in 10,000.
Thus Homer is as Homer is. Dollar Signs and Newbies be damned.
May their fat keep the fire warm and crackly.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ONE PHILOSOPHY
One reason I am opposed to any one philsophy becoming The Philsophy
for the universe, is that all philosophies, to the degree that they are
stated in words, are wrong. It is impossible to have a persisting
philosophy that is not alterised in some fashion.
A Persisting Wrongness acts like an Anchor Point.
Having One Persisting Wrongness over the whole universe would
collapse all of space and time to a point that would not be an
as-isness.
It takes 4 persisting objects to have a space, a person with only 2
friends is sunk. A person with 3 friends will survive, as makes the
4th.
So it takes a mininum of 4 persisting philosophies, competing with
each other in such a way as to never subsume each other, to allow space
and time to prosper and flourish. Each acts as an anchor point in the
space time arena.
The minute they all become One Philosophy, space and time
collapses, just as if all your anchor points melded into One Anchor
Point.
Now this applies to a.c.t. also. Presently it consists mostly of
Homer and Clear-l, and those that have joined Homer and Clear-L, and
reposts by Homer and Clear-l of other's work.
Yes there is some of other's work, but its all under Homer, Homer
Homer Homer Homer Homer.... yeccch. No wonder I am so irate.
Now if we had accept-l and trom-l and noodlezone-l and clear-l all
feeding independently into a.c.t., then for one everyone would be more
motivated to read a.c.t rather than veg out on clear-l, and we would
have our much needed 4 independent spaces.
The single most deadly thing that will in fact destroy us all, not
only the freezone, is not Homer, but the newbie's propensity to hide out
on private lists seeking safe spaces and 'supportive environments'.
They want their covert suppressive assholes treated well.
There is no more dangerous solution than a safe solution, and there
is no more dangerous space than a safe space. Humans of course can not
understand this logic, it sounds dangerously cracked to them, they will
go to great measures to destroy those who consider it, but then such
humans are seeking a safe space.
The short term benefits of what they seek are illusory compared to
the long term disaster that awaits them from accumulated *LOUSY*
postulates.
There is a safe space, its called Eternal Omni Sovereignty, but
I'll tell you something, that safe space is more dangerous than any
other space you can imagine, as it is the source of all dangerous
spaces.
That space can and will cast dangerous spaces forever for free.
Now I have called a New Unit of Time for a while with Allen to see
what he and others really want a.c.t. and the internet to become.
It's more a Time Out while I get to reevaluate what every one is
saying.
And besides while Allen is cooled out, I get to sleep better.
But its REALLY unfair for people to want me to change on clear-l so
that they don't have to crawl out of their squirrel hole private lists
and come out in the open and be heard.
They want Homer to be polite so they can lurk or maybe put out a
pittance and not have their views trampled on.
David's comments to Mary added up to basically shut up. Jacobus's
comments to all of us added up to basically shut up and be polite.
This stems from ENORMOUS PTSness, PTSness that arises when we try
to win over people who are important to us, but who are real assholes,
people who won't come over to clearing unless clearing fits their
concept of a safe space, which is basically one where no one ever says
anything disturbing to them. Mainly no one holds a mirror up to them.
At best they want to become a well and happy Mud Puppie, one who
can once again behave properly so that God, or the powers that be, will
approve of them and let them into heaven where they don't have to deal
with anything any more. That's how they define Heaven: No Longer Have
To Deal With.
At worst they want to be better able to control everyone to live
their lives for them so they take the reward while others take the risk.
They certainly don't want any mirrors in the room, even if they
aren't pointed at them.
An OT is a very dangerous thing. An OT can not be harmed, but as
self creator he is sure going to try. And they come armed with an
attitude and sense of AESTHETICS that would make any human being's hair
stand on end.
Run "Beautiful Evil" and "Evil Beauty" for a while if you want to
know what I mean.
More like "Beautiful Incomprehensibility" and "Incomprehensible
Beauty".
An OT is not an improved human being. An OT MAKES human beings and
AS them, throws himself into the pit.
An OT is a very dangerous thing to human beings. We can not, and
must not let the arena for producing OT's be constrained by human
beings, for those who are truely trying to become OT, and not just
better human beings, will burn us for it one day.
As Filbert said, only 1 in 10,000 want to become OT in this life
time. The rest want something else. Clear-L is for those 1 in 10,000.
Thus Homer is as Homer is. Dollar Signs and Newbies be damned.
May their fat keep the fire warm and crackly.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ACT70 (fwd)
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TROM I
((My comments in double parentheses - Homer))
TROM, The Resolution Of Mind
By Dennis H. Stephens
ACT - 70
10 August 1994
Copyright (C) 1994 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
TROM, The Resolution of Mind by Dennis H. Stephens is a must read.
It is available from Flemming.
In my own words,
The basic premise is that life is a game, and that games derive
from one basic GPM having to do with KNOWING in the creating and
destroying sense.
The GPM has four parts from which all conflict arises, and they
are,
Self - Opposing - Others
1.) To Be Known To Not Know
2.) To Not Be Known To Know
3.) To Know To Not Be Known
4.) To Not Know To Be Known
To Be Known is the goal and act of creating a mockup or importance
or 'existence' of anything and showing it to others. It is an outflow,
and tries to get the other person To Know the mockup which is an inflow
from their point of view.
Thus To Be Known is cause and is an outflow, and To Know is an
effect and is an inflow. The opposing party creates a game by
responding to your mockup with To Not Know (about your mockup) which of
course conflicts with your goal To (have your mockup) Be Known.
This is a rather new use of these terms, and may confuse
Scientologists, but try to follow it.
All games come under the above 4 lines of the GPM.
Games come about from one side trying to impose its goal on the
other side, and the other side refusing to accept the goal and positing
the opposite goal instead. Force is used to win these games.
Thus the above GPM becomes
Self - Opposing - Others
1.) Must Be Known Must Not Know
2.) Must Not Be Known Must Know
3.) Must Know Must Not Be Known
4.) Must Not Know Must Be Known
When one side wins that is an overt for that side and a motivator
for the other side.
When one side loses that is a motivator for that side and an overt
for the other side.
For example if Self wins at 1.) Must Be Known, that is Forcing the
other side To Know against its wish to Not know. Thus the overt of Self
is Forcing the other side To Know.
If Self loses at 1.) Must Be Known, it becomes Prevented from Being
Known. Thus the motivator for Self is being Prevented from Being Known.
Thus there are 8 possible overwhelms, 4 happening to Self as
motivators when Self loses, and 4 happening to the other side as overts
from Self when Self wins.
They are, (M = Motivator relative to Self, O = Overt relative to
Self.)
1.) To Be Known 1.) To Not Know
M = Prevented from Being Known O = Forcing To Know
2.) To Be Not Known 2.) To Know
M = Forced to be Known O = Preventing From Knowing
3.) To Know 3.) To Not Be Known
M = Prevented from Knowing O = Forcing To Be Known
4.) To Not Know 4.) To Be Known
M = Forced to Know O = Preventing From Being Known
One can easily recognize Enforced and Inhibited Knowing and Not
Knowing in the above data.
It is asserted that the mind is merely the accumulated recording of
all the games ever played and lost by the being, all of which are
patterned on one of 4 line items of the above GPM. It is further
asserted that the being has come to a point where his mind itself has
become a problem to him and thus a game. However rather than resolve
it, he PLAYS against it using the very patterns that are stored in the
mind, so he loses.
He wants to know about the mind, so it makes sure he can't find
out.
He wants To Not Know about the mind, so it makes sure he does find
out (hallucinations etc.)
He wants to be known to the mind, so it makes sure he is ignored
utterly.
He wants to be not known to the mind, so it makes sure he knows he
has no secrets from it.
Since the being is PLAYING a game with the mind in his efforts to
resolve it, he is inherently opposing it. He has never won such a game
for long with anyone else, why should he win it with the mind? The mind
in fact is a record of all his losses in these games, so it has a lot of
power to make him lose.
The answer then to erasing the mind, is NOT to play a game with it,
but to mock it up as it is, to make more of it.
One does this by spotting the 8 flows of overwhelm and running the
various as-isness type processes on them that Stephens recommends.
Highly recommended.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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TROM I
((My comments in double parentheses - Homer))
TROM, The Resolution Of Mind
By Dennis H. Stephens
ACT - 70
10 August 1994
Copyright (C) 1994 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
TROM, The Resolution of Mind by Dennis H. Stephens is a must read.
It is available from Flemming.
In my own words,
The basic premise is that life is a game, and that games derive
from one basic GPM having to do with KNOWING in the creating and
destroying sense.
The GPM has four parts from which all conflict arises, and they
are,
Self - Opposing - Others
1.) To Be Known To Not Know
2.) To Not Be Known To Know
3.) To Know To Not Be Known
4.) To Not Know To Be Known
To Be Known is the goal and act of creating a mockup or importance
or 'existence' of anything and showing it to others. It is an outflow,
and tries to get the other person To Know the mockup which is an inflow
from their point of view.
Thus To Be Known is cause and is an outflow, and To Know is an
effect and is an inflow. The opposing party creates a game by
responding to your mockup with To Not Know (about your mockup) which of
course conflicts with your goal To (have your mockup) Be Known.
This is a rather new use of these terms, and may confuse
Scientologists, but try to follow it.
All games come under the above 4 lines of the GPM.
Games come about from one side trying to impose its goal on the
other side, and the other side refusing to accept the goal and positing
the opposite goal instead. Force is used to win these games.
Thus the above GPM becomes
Self - Opposing - Others
1.) Must Be Known Must Not Know
2.) Must Not Be Known Must Know
3.) Must Know Must Not Be Known
4.) Must Not Know Must Be Known
When one side wins that is an overt for that side and a motivator
for the other side.
When one side loses that is a motivator for that side and an overt
for the other side.
For example if Self wins at 1.) Must Be Known, that is Forcing the
other side To Know against its wish to Not know. Thus the overt of Self
is Forcing the other side To Know.
If Self loses at 1.) Must Be Known, it becomes Prevented from Being
Known. Thus the motivator for Self is being Prevented from Being Known.
Thus there are 8 possible overwhelms, 4 happening to Self as
motivators when Self loses, and 4 happening to the other side as overts
from Self when Self wins.
They are, (M = Motivator relative to Self, O = Overt relative to
Self.)
1.) To Be Known 1.) To Not Know
M = Prevented from Being Known O = Forcing To Know
2.) To Be Not Known 2.) To Know
M = Forced to be Known O = Preventing From Knowing
3.) To Know 3.) To Not Be Known
M = Prevented from Knowing O = Forcing To Be Known
4.) To Not Know 4.) To Be Known
M = Forced to Know O = Preventing From Being Known
One can easily recognize Enforced and Inhibited Knowing and Not
Knowing in the above data.
It is asserted that the mind is merely the accumulated recording of
all the games ever played and lost by the being, all of which are
patterned on one of 4 line items of the above GPM. It is further
asserted that the being has come to a point where his mind itself has
become a problem to him and thus a game. However rather than resolve
it, he PLAYS against it using the very patterns that are stored in the
mind, so he loses.
He wants to know about the mind, so it makes sure he can't find
out.
He wants To Not Know about the mind, so it makes sure he does find
out (hallucinations etc.)
He wants to be known to the mind, so it makes sure he is ignored
utterly.
He wants to be not known to the mind, so it makes sure he knows he
has no secrets from it.
Since the being is PLAYING a game with the mind in his efforts to
resolve it, he is inherently opposing it. He has never won such a game
for long with anyone else, why should he win it with the mind? The mind
in fact is a record of all his losses in these games, so it has a lot of
power to make him lose.
The answer then to erasing the mind, is NOT to play a game with it,
but to mock it up as it is, to make more of it.
One does this by spotting the 8 flows of overwhelm and running the
various as-isness type processes on them that Stephens recommends.
Highly recommended.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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ADORE70 (fwd)
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RESPONSIBILITY
Adore holds all beings fully responsible for their own condition.
The child is held responsible for creating the mother that it needs to
prosper and flourish.
The woman is held responsible for creating the male that she needs to
prosper and flourish.
The male is held responsible for creating the gods that he needs to
prosper and flourish.
And the god is held responsible for creating the child at the
next level up that the god needs to prosper and flourish.
The child blames the mother, the woman blames the male, the male
blames the god, and the god blames the next higher child.
"We lost our High Masters, and blamed our High Apprehentices,
and now *NO ONE* is pure before Source." - Adore
The reason only a woman can teach a man how to be a *MAN* is
because only a woman knows how she NEEDS a man to be a man. If the
woman doesn't do it, no one will, because the men won't know.
It's not an obvious thing in humans.
The reason the male isn't 'home' most of the time, is because the only
really safe space is a BIG safe space, that means the male must prowl the
borders of his territories and expand them ever outward seeking more and
more danger that might come in and impinge in surprise.
The male that doesn't wander *FAR* from home is just not doing his
job.
It doesn't have to be a physical wandering, but it does have
to be a wandering into territories of unknown danger where the woman
with child would *NEVER* go.
That is what the woman hires, creates and trains the man for.
And that includes her sons.
"When does a son take (command) rank over his mother?"
"The day he can take his mother's enemies out." - Adore
Homer
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RESPONSIBILITY
Adore holds all beings fully responsible for their own condition.
The child is held responsible for creating the mother that it needs to
prosper and flourish.
The woman is held responsible for creating the male that she needs to
prosper and flourish.
The male is held responsible for creating the gods that he needs to
prosper and flourish.
And the god is held responsible for creating the child at the
next level up that the god needs to prosper and flourish.
The child blames the mother, the woman blames the male, the male
blames the god, and the god blames the next higher child.
"We lost our High Masters, and blamed our High Apprehentices,
and now *NO ONE* is pure before Source." - Adore
The reason only a woman can teach a man how to be a *MAN* is
because only a woman knows how she NEEDS a man to be a man. If the
woman doesn't do it, no one will, because the men won't know.
It's not an obvious thing in humans.
The reason the male isn't 'home' most of the time, is because the only
really safe space is a BIG safe space, that means the male must prowl the
borders of his territories and expand them ever outward seeking more and
more danger that might come in and impinge in surprise.
The male that doesn't wander *FAR* from home is just not doing his
job.
It doesn't have to be a physical wandering, but it does have
to be a wandering into territories of unknown danger where the woman
with child would *NEVER* go.
That is what the woman hires, creates and trains the man for.
And that includes her sons.
"When does a son take (command) rank over his mother?"
"The day he can take his mother's enemies out." - Adore
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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CONNECTION
huggieoh (huggieoh@clear.net.nz) wrote:
> If its all virtual projection as Homer the Dreamball is trying to
>tell us, where is the connection?
People try to get connected by space time vias, by body
communications, by throwing particles at each other etc.
The true connection is not outward, but lies in the inward
oneness between us in Eternity.
You over there, and me here in space time, are nonetheless
manifestations of the same super being, a being that is both One and
Many at the same time, depending on ascension or descension of the
viewpoint from Eternity into time..
Loneliness is having lost one's outward 'connections', when there
was no inward connection left. With inward connection in place, one can
not be lonely, its just impossible, as everyone is right there where we
are.
The inward connection can not actually be lost, but it can be
suppressed to the point where we are 'alone in the universe'.
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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huggieoh (huggieoh@clear.net.nz) wrote:
> If its all virtual projection as Homer the Dreamball is trying to
>tell us, where is the connection?
People try to get connected by space time vias, by body
communications, by throwing particles at each other etc.
The true connection is not outward, but lies in the inward
oneness between us in Eternity.
You over there, and me here in space time, are nonetheless
manifestations of the same super being, a being that is both One and
Many at the same time, depending on ascension or descension of the
viewpoint from Eternity into time..
Loneliness is having lost one's outward 'connections', when there
was no inward connection left. With inward connection in place, one can
not be lonely, its just impossible, as everyone is right there where we
are.
The inward connection can not actually be lost, but it can be
suppressed to the point where we are 'alone in the universe'.
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THIS FORUM
This forum is intended to be a scientific forum for the discussion
and advancement of clearing.
Scientific forums demand a certain amount of scientific decorum in
their proceedings.
Things don't have to be utterly dry and formal here, every good
scientist jokes around, gets sarcastic, engages in hyperbole, but always
to the advancement of the science, not to the end of tearing it down.
There are 4 high crimes that I want to see eradicated from the
forum.
1.) Ad hominem, A is false because B is a drunk and C uses it to
torture people.
2.) Attribution of Intention, A is false because B's intention was
evil before, during or after he said A. Or D's intention is evil
because he asserts E.
3.) Attribution of Source, you believe A because B told you to.
4.) Attribution of identity, A is not A but B posting as A. Or A
is a covert OP of B.
People who engage in such forms of debate are engaged in
destructive out ethics and do not belong in a serious scientific forum.
That said, anyone posting to the forum is fair game in the forum,
you don't get respect just and only because you breath. If you post
stupidity, illogic, or low tone death directedness, then expect to get
your sorry ass flamed off its scrawny bones.
But saying someone is wrong because they are stupid or illogical is
not the same as saying they are wrong because they do drugs, or are
planning a con on people, are brainwashed, or a church op.
The only other person who has been removed to date was KP, and he
had a lot more positive to say about clearing than Phil does.
Homer
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THIS FORUM
This forum is intended to be a scientific forum for the discussion
and advancement of clearing.
Scientific forums demand a certain amount of scientific decorum in
their proceedings.
Things don't have to be utterly dry and formal here, every good
scientist jokes around, gets sarcastic, engages in hyperbole, but always
to the advancement of the science, not to the end of tearing it down.
There are 4 high crimes that I want to see eradicated from the
forum.
1.) Ad hominem, A is false because B is a drunk and C uses it to
torture people.
2.) Attribution of Intention, A is false because B's intention was
evil before, during or after he said A. Or D's intention is evil
because he asserts E.
3.) Attribution of Source, you believe A because B told you to.
4.) Attribution of identity, A is not A but B posting as A. Or A
is a covert OP of B.
People who engage in such forms of debate are engaged in
destructive out ethics and do not belong in a serious scientific forum.
That said, anyone posting to the forum is fair game in the forum,
you don't get respect just and only because you breath. If you post
stupidity, illogic, or low tone death directedness, then expect to get
your sorry ass flamed off its scrawny bones.
But saying someone is wrong because they are stupid or illogical is
not the same as saying they are wrong because they do drugs, or are
planning a con on people, are brainwashed, or a church op.
The only other person who has been removed to date was KP, and he
had a lot more positive to say about clearing than Phil does.
Homer
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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CONCEIVE A KINETIC
In Creation of Human Ability, LRH had a process called Conceive a
Static.
He rated it as a 5 star process, although rough on the pc.
Rough indeed.
If ever there was evidence of Hubbard's maternal malevolence toward
all of man kind, this might be it.
It is not possible to concieve a static any more than it is
possible to mockup, create or understand a static.
The static is a native state of total unmanifestation, it exists
prior to and is the cause of any kind of conception, mockup, creation or
understanding.
Thus if you are conceiving anything, you aren't a static.
You might be able to BE a static, but never to conceive a static.
Thus conceive a static can not possibly be run, it will only give
the pc losses as every auditing command will end in failure and is
possibly the basic basic on Black Dianetics designed to grind a pc in
until he can't get out.
So listen closely now.
The way IN, is the way out.
That does NOT mean you turn around after coming in and attempt to
follow your path out. That sticks you IN.
That's for little kids in the forest leaving bread crumbs behind
them. They get eaten by the big bad wolf from behind while trying to
get out.
The way IN, is the way out, means just what it says, if you want to
be out, come in again.
That's because coming in puts you out.
That's because you can't come in unless you ARE OUT!
"The way to BECOME the Creator, is to BE the Creator BECOMING the
CREATURE. Watch it, Medusa is the Devil's Harem." - Adore
Thus postulating that you are coming in, pre posulates that you are
out so you can come in, and this perfectly duplicates the original
postulate to come in which, if you let go of it while coming in,
vanishes, leaving you out should you decide not to come in again.
Original postulate:
"I am out and I want to come in."
Trap postulate:
"I am in, and I want to get out."
Freeing postulate:
"I am out and I want to come in."
Remember that postulates do not stick of their own accord, because
a prime postulate can not create time. Take your attention off a prime
postulate, and it was never there, period.
Postulates can only stick because of a second postulate to the
effect that you must DO something about the first postulate in order to
'solve it'.
Every postulate is a postulate of limitation and therefore is to
some degree a problem seeking a solution.
Prime postulates are made from the timeless state and only stick
because they are committed to by doingness or effort validating the
'truth' of the prime postulate and its problematic nature, which then
creates time and chase, which separates the being from the timeless
start point.
Once a postulate is made, there are only two ways to go.
Let the postulate go, and it will vanish leaving you out.
Or,
Commit to solving the problem posted by the postulate by CREATING
SOMETHING MORE, making MORE postulates that create effort and doingness
and solutions that you hope down the road in time will handle the
problem.
Could you possibly ever get any further dug in?
We have been taught that the second creation of a prime postulate
will cause it to vanish.
It isn't really the second creation of the prime postulate that
ends it, it is the return to the first creation of the prime postulate,
then NOT followed by the time creating postulate that one must DO
something to solve it.
Thus by bringing your pc back to the prime postulate, you get him
to fail to create the continuance postulates, and thus he doesn't
continue. The moment he then takes his attention off of the prime
postulate it vanishes because he is no longer creating it!
Prime postulate: "I am a cop".
Second postulate: "Cops survive by chasing criminals."
The *SECOND* he starts chasing criminals, he becomes stuck as a cop
in *TIME*.
To vanish this, one needs to reattain the timeless moment of
creation of the prime potulate:
"I am a cop".
Then have him fail to make the second postulate, and make ANOTHER
prime postulate instead:
"I am a scientist."
Now if he makes a second postulate that determines what scientists
do to survive, and COMMITS TO IT WITH DOINGNESS AND EFFORT, he gets
stuck as a scientist in time.
But if instead you just get him to keep making FIRST or PRIME
postulates only, without making any concommittant continuance
postulates, pretty soon he will stop with the being a preclear nonsense
and go Poof, and end up back in native state, big snooze, no postulates
remaining, no postulates ever created.
Remember native state has no sense of the past, once all present
time creations are gone, they never 'were'.
How can something which has no time, have a concept of the past, of
what 'used to be'?
It can't.
Native state is pristine.
All prime manifestation is NEW.
So how do we get back to native state?
Well certainly not by POSTULATING native state!
That's a contradiction don't you see?
It will KILL you, so don't do it, ok?
Save it for running on your friends.
On Halloween or something.
Stop trying to KNOW what a static is.
Knowing what a static is, is not what a static is!
Get it?
So what did we do when we came in?
We postulated a KINETIC.
Thus we alter the process in Creation of Human Ability from
Black Dianetics: Conceive a Static
to
White Dianetics: Conceive a Kinetic.
If we wish to be orthodox about it, we would run,
Spot SOME Kinetic.
Spot NO Kinetic.
Or better yet,
Get the idea of NO Kinetic.
Get the idea of SOME Kinetic.
Remember NO Kinetic does NOT mean a static, but a pretended
apparency of the absence of a kinetic via force, mass and not-isness.
If it is truely a static no kinetic, the needle will float.
If it is a pretended no kinetic, the needle will read and run.
Remember also that the ball doesn't bounce off the wall because the
ball and the wall have anything to do with it. The Static is
orchestrating both events as a third party to make it appear that the
static doesn't exist and the ball and the wall effect each other
directly.
The causal bridge between the ball hitting the wall, and the fact
that the ball actually bounces off the wall, is your postulate, via the
static orchestrator, that they will.
Same thing in the physical universe, you need a force on an object
to effect an acceleration. But the causal bridge between the existence
of the force and the appearance of the acceleration is a posulate that
this is the way things are.
Without that postulate, the force would go through the object.
No postulate, no static orchestration.
Now there is another thing about making mockups that LRH fails to
mention in his early books.
He asks you to mockup black and white crosses, beauty and ugly,
objects of various kinds etc, until the pc is completely remedied of all
scarcity of experience.
But the world is not made of objects, the world is made of MOVING
objects, kinetic, in particular objects with CHANGING motion called
acceleration.
A stationary or unchanging object, like a stationary mockup, will
simply cave the pc in.
Thus running "mockup a MOVING object, or mockup something moving,"
is way more productive than merely mocking up things the person wants to
have."
He doesn't want a dead still girl anyhow, he wants a DANCING
SMILING girl, don't you see?
We don't care how big or heavy or far away or how long the object
is moving, we care about how SLOW OR FAST it is moving, and its changes
in speed or direction.
Facility with slow and fast is WAY more important than facility
with small and big, or near and far, or long and short.
Havingness is mass IN CHANGING MOTION, which is why mocking up
explosions was so useful. But the bank has many kinds of flows in it,
some explosions, some implosions, some pushes, some pulls, shears,
twists, turns, knots, and one hell of a lot of ridges as these things
collide and produce mass.
Thus if you want to poduce miracles on a new pc, simply run
something like
Mockup NO motion.
Mockup SOME motion.
Get the idea of NO motion.
Get the idea of SOME motion.
If you really want to go for the gold, use changing motion
instead of motion.
Spacation fails for the same reason, too much space merely as-ises
everything in sight.
The pc didn't WANT space or that's what he would have, he wanted
space with something MOVING in it.
This creates space AND time AND mass AND force AND *CHANGING*
energy (accelerations and deaccelerations) AND motion.
Notice forces do not cause MOTION, force causes changing motion,
so with out changing motion there is no force. So if you really want to
mockup something, it has to include force which means changing motion.
And now your pc is happy and will run the process and will run it
until he exteriorizes.
This is the 'GOVERNOR' LRH wrote about that limits how much motion
the pc can make before it throttles him, keeping him in check. The
governor needs to be run out forever more.
The governor is simply motion without force to changing.
Static mockups are death by definition.
The more MOTION your pc can mockup the more force and mass, and
time and space he can mockup too.
Try it sometime on a dear friend.
Run 'mockup a mass' and see what happens to his tone.
Then recover from it with 'mockup a mass in MOTION'.
Then recover from that too with 'mockup a mass in changing motion.'
Aside from being totally absent of any space and time, the static
is eternal stillness in both space and time,
An unchanging motion can't tell who is moving, it or the observer,
so that's a static again for one of them, right?
The static is NOT an infinite amount of space nor an infinite
amount of time.
The static is a true NO space and NO time.
The opposite then of a static then would be MOTION in space and
time.
Motion is native state's raison d'etre.
Manifestation is manifestation of MOTION, change.
Start and stop are dead ends.
You can't have motion with out having something in motion, but
going after the something will not produce the motion. Going after the
motion AND THE FORCE TO CREATE IT will however produce the something in
unlimited quantities.
Without the motion the process will fail.
Running the motion will also turn on the E-motion, as emotion is
used to move the body, and efforts and thought and ideas.
Mocking up a pink elephant is a dead end.
Mocking up a rocket powered FLYING pink elephant, doing figure 8's
and spelling out 'AUDITING WORKS' in the sky, well now that will make
your needle float.
The needle moves on force which is new, changing, acclerating or
deaccelerating MOTION, the needle sticks on NO MOTION.
Homer
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CONCEIVE A KINETIC
In Creation of Human Ability, LRH had a process called Conceive a
Static.
He rated it as a 5 star process, although rough on the pc.
Rough indeed.
If ever there was evidence of Hubbard's maternal malevolence toward
all of man kind, this might be it.
It is not possible to concieve a static any more than it is
possible to mockup, create or understand a static.
The static is a native state of total unmanifestation, it exists
prior to and is the cause of any kind of conception, mockup, creation or
understanding.
Thus if you are conceiving anything, you aren't a static.
You might be able to BE a static, but never to conceive a static.
Thus conceive a static can not possibly be run, it will only give
the pc losses as every auditing command will end in failure and is
possibly the basic basic on Black Dianetics designed to grind a pc in
until he can't get out.
So listen closely now.
The way IN, is the way out.
That does NOT mean you turn around after coming in and attempt to
follow your path out. That sticks you IN.
That's for little kids in the forest leaving bread crumbs behind
them. They get eaten by the big bad wolf from behind while trying to
get out.
The way IN, is the way out, means just what it says, if you want to
be out, come in again.
That's because coming in puts you out.
That's because you can't come in unless you ARE OUT!
"The way to BECOME the Creator, is to BE the Creator BECOMING the
CREATURE. Watch it, Medusa is the Devil's Harem." - Adore
Thus postulating that you are coming in, pre posulates that you are
out so you can come in, and this perfectly duplicates the original
postulate to come in which, if you let go of it while coming in,
vanishes, leaving you out should you decide not to come in again.
Original postulate:
"I am out and I want to come in."
Trap postulate:
"I am in, and I want to get out."
Freeing postulate:
"I am out and I want to come in."
Remember that postulates do not stick of their own accord, because
a prime postulate can not create time. Take your attention off a prime
postulate, and it was never there, period.
Postulates can only stick because of a second postulate to the
effect that you must DO something about the first postulate in order to
'solve it'.
Every postulate is a postulate of limitation and therefore is to
some degree a problem seeking a solution.
Prime postulates are made from the timeless state and only stick
because they are committed to by doingness or effort validating the
'truth' of the prime postulate and its problematic nature, which then
creates time and chase, which separates the being from the timeless
start point.
Once a postulate is made, there are only two ways to go.
Let the postulate go, and it will vanish leaving you out.
Or,
Commit to solving the problem posted by the postulate by CREATING
SOMETHING MORE, making MORE postulates that create effort and doingness
and solutions that you hope down the road in time will handle the
problem.
Could you possibly ever get any further dug in?
We have been taught that the second creation of a prime postulate
will cause it to vanish.
It isn't really the second creation of the prime postulate that
ends it, it is the return to the first creation of the prime postulate,
then NOT followed by the time creating postulate that one must DO
something to solve it.
Thus by bringing your pc back to the prime postulate, you get him
to fail to create the continuance postulates, and thus he doesn't
continue. The moment he then takes his attention off of the prime
postulate it vanishes because he is no longer creating it!
Prime postulate: "I am a cop".
Second postulate: "Cops survive by chasing criminals."
The *SECOND* he starts chasing criminals, he becomes stuck as a cop
in *TIME*.
To vanish this, one needs to reattain the timeless moment of
creation of the prime potulate:
"I am a cop".
Then have him fail to make the second postulate, and make ANOTHER
prime postulate instead:
"I am a scientist."
Now if he makes a second postulate that determines what scientists
do to survive, and COMMITS TO IT WITH DOINGNESS AND EFFORT, he gets
stuck as a scientist in time.
But if instead you just get him to keep making FIRST or PRIME
postulates only, without making any concommittant continuance
postulates, pretty soon he will stop with the being a preclear nonsense
and go Poof, and end up back in native state, big snooze, no postulates
remaining, no postulates ever created.
Remember native state has no sense of the past, once all present
time creations are gone, they never 'were'.
How can something which has no time, have a concept of the past, of
what 'used to be'?
It can't.
Native state is pristine.
All prime manifestation is NEW.
So how do we get back to native state?
Well certainly not by POSTULATING native state!
That's a contradiction don't you see?
It will KILL you, so don't do it, ok?
Save it for running on your friends.
On Halloween or something.
Stop trying to KNOW what a static is.
Knowing what a static is, is not what a static is!
Get it?
So what did we do when we came in?
We postulated a KINETIC.
Thus we alter the process in Creation of Human Ability from
Black Dianetics: Conceive a Static
to
White Dianetics: Conceive a Kinetic.
If we wish to be orthodox about it, we would run,
Spot SOME Kinetic.
Spot NO Kinetic.
Or better yet,
Get the idea of NO Kinetic.
Get the idea of SOME Kinetic.
Remember NO Kinetic does NOT mean a static, but a pretended
apparency of the absence of a kinetic via force, mass and not-isness.
If it is truely a static no kinetic, the needle will float.
If it is a pretended no kinetic, the needle will read and run.
Remember also that the ball doesn't bounce off the wall because the
ball and the wall have anything to do with it. The Static is
orchestrating both events as a third party to make it appear that the
static doesn't exist and the ball and the wall effect each other
directly.
The causal bridge between the ball hitting the wall, and the fact
that the ball actually bounces off the wall, is your postulate, via the
static orchestrator, that they will.
Same thing in the physical universe, you need a force on an object
to effect an acceleration. But the causal bridge between the existence
of the force and the appearance of the acceleration is a posulate that
this is the way things are.
Without that postulate, the force would go through the object.
No postulate, no static orchestration.
Now there is another thing about making mockups that LRH fails to
mention in his early books.
He asks you to mockup black and white crosses, beauty and ugly,
objects of various kinds etc, until the pc is completely remedied of all
scarcity of experience.
But the world is not made of objects, the world is made of MOVING
objects, kinetic, in particular objects with CHANGING motion called
acceleration.
A stationary or unchanging object, like a stationary mockup, will
simply cave the pc in.
Thus running "mockup a MOVING object, or mockup something moving,"
is way more productive than merely mocking up things the person wants to
have."
He doesn't want a dead still girl anyhow, he wants a DANCING
SMILING girl, don't you see?
We don't care how big or heavy or far away or how long the object
is moving, we care about how SLOW OR FAST it is moving, and its changes
in speed or direction.
Facility with slow and fast is WAY more important than facility
with small and big, or near and far, or long and short.
Havingness is mass IN CHANGING MOTION, which is why mocking up
explosions was so useful. But the bank has many kinds of flows in it,
some explosions, some implosions, some pushes, some pulls, shears,
twists, turns, knots, and one hell of a lot of ridges as these things
collide and produce mass.
Thus if you want to poduce miracles on a new pc, simply run
something like
Mockup NO motion.
Mockup SOME motion.
Get the idea of NO motion.
Get the idea of SOME motion.
If you really want to go for the gold, use changing motion
instead of motion.
Spacation fails for the same reason, too much space merely as-ises
everything in sight.
The pc didn't WANT space or that's what he would have, he wanted
space with something MOVING in it.
This creates space AND time AND mass AND force AND *CHANGING*
energy (accelerations and deaccelerations) AND motion.
Notice forces do not cause MOTION, force causes changing motion,
so with out changing motion there is no force. So if you really want to
mockup something, it has to include force which means changing motion.
And now your pc is happy and will run the process and will run it
until he exteriorizes.
This is the 'GOVERNOR' LRH wrote about that limits how much motion
the pc can make before it throttles him, keeping him in check. The
governor needs to be run out forever more.
The governor is simply motion without force to changing.
Static mockups are death by definition.
The more MOTION your pc can mockup the more force and mass, and
time and space he can mockup too.
Try it sometime on a dear friend.
Run 'mockup a mass' and see what happens to his tone.
Then recover from it with 'mockup a mass in MOTION'.
Then recover from that too with 'mockup a mass in changing motion.'
Aside from being totally absent of any space and time, the static
is eternal stillness in both space and time,
An unchanging motion can't tell who is moving, it or the observer,
so that's a static again for one of them, right?
The static is NOT an infinite amount of space nor an infinite
amount of time.
The static is a true NO space and NO time.
The opposite then of a static then would be MOTION in space and
time.
Motion is native state's raison d'etre.
Manifestation is manifestation of MOTION, change.
Start and stop are dead ends.
You can't have motion with out having something in motion, but
going after the something will not produce the motion. Going after the
motion AND THE FORCE TO CREATE IT will however produce the something in
unlimited quantities.
Without the motion the process will fail.
Running the motion will also turn on the E-motion, as emotion is
used to move the body, and efforts and thought and ideas.
Mocking up a pink elephant is a dead end.
Mocking up a rocket powered FLYING pink elephant, doing figure 8's
and spelling out 'AUDITING WORKS' in the sky, well now that will make
your needle float.
The needle moves on force which is new, changing, acclerating or
deaccelerating MOTION, the needle sticks on NO MOTION.
Homer
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CASE AND GAMES
ACT - 54
12 March 1994
Copyright (C) 1994 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
Case has to do with Unwillingness and Games.
Ultimately case is some form of having to play a game you don't
want to play, or not having a game you do want to play.
A chess player at a chess match may be 'unwilling to lose' but he
is willing to play, and willing to risk losing and willing and *EAGER*
to have the other player BE as his opponent. This is an ideal game and
is a standard of caselessness.
Spot the games in your life, spot your opponents and spot
the eagerness level you have for each game and opponent.
Eagerness is called INVITE.
Invite places full knowing willing responsibility on the part of
both players for the other player being there. Both players are putting
each otther there.
Caselessness therefore is having games you are willing to play,
games you are willing and eager to play, and willing to win or lose,
along with the ability to invent or find new games which you are willing
and eager to play and willing to win or lose.
Why wouldn't someone be willing to win or lose a game?
Because both result in losing the presence of the game, and if
games are scarce, winning a game is just as bad as losing a game.
The unwillingness to play a particular game is related to the
unwillingness to HAVE the game and your opposition, so it relates to an
unwillingness to OPERATE the game, which amounts to unwillingness to
LOCATE the various components of the game in space and time and get on
with playing it.
Unwillingness leads to NOT PUTTING IT THERE.
The components of a game are yourself as a player, others as your
opponents, perhaps spectators, umpires, and the various parts of the
playing field whatever they may be.
A being who is in a game that he is unwilling to play tries to make
nothing of the other side, the playing field or his own position in the
game, saying it isn't there, it isn't important, he won't play etc.
This is NOT-ISness.
He will even develop psychosomatic conditions and limitations that
are designed to get him out of the game, or failing that, to get others
to play the game for him, and yet give him the winnings.
Such handicap conditions can even be used to help you get INTO a
game that others don't want you playing.
Psychosomatic conditions can be used against one's own team mates
in the game to get them to let you out of the game or help you play, and
they can be used against the opponents to get them to leave you alone or
let you win.
When a person comes to you for session, what they want handled is
usually some form of problem, regret, upset or inability on the subject
of the games of life, of having fun in a space time game stream.
Often the most important game is the game of making a living which
in the end is the game of keeping games going.
Life is a dream, and it is a game, so it is sort of an arcade game
where spirits can take sides and take on the various forms that are
operating in the game such as a body or whatever, and they do this
primarily for fun.
When spirits are no longer having fun, they leave the game, or
change the game or start a new game.
If they are unable to leave a game, or there is a scarcity of games
to change to, or they are unable to invent new games, then they will
become very unhappy with life as a game, things will become very serious
for them, they will develop psychosomatic conditions to help them make
the unwanted games of life more enjoyable or bearable. A psychosomatic
condition is an effort to become willing or able to be in the game by
becoming unable to play the game.
It's an effort to continue playing a game by being unable to win.
or
It's an effort to win a game by being unable to play.
Therefore it might make sense to make your first address in session
be to the subject of games. Specifically wanted and unwanted games.
"Tell me some games you want to play and can play."
"Tell me some games you want to play and can't play."
"Tell me some games you want to play but have to play anyhow."
"Tell me some games you don't want to play and don't have to play."
"Tell me some games you don't want to play and have to play."
"Tell me some games you don't want to play but can't play anyhow."
The purpose of this is to find the central core of games the person
considers they have to play and don't want to, and the games they want
to play and can't.
It is here you will find the 1st postulate of your preclear, his
Basic Goal for this life and for many previous lives in a row. It is
what your preclear is UP TO in the space time game stream. You will
often find they are in such apathy about their true game or purpose in
life, that most of what they are doing with their time is playing
substitute games that allow them to side step the major failures of
their lives. Their game of choice is broken so they play some other
game.
Their 'condition' is their excuse to themselves and to others
why they are failing to play the proper game.
When they are doing really bad, they are merely playing to survive,
they usually will be found at a subsistence level of existence, meaning
they are just barely managing to eat and have a roof over their heads,
because they have fallen away from any worthwhile games that would have
produced affluence for them. Here is your bum in the street who owns
one pair of clothes and teaches computer programming to the homeless and
the destitute.
The earlier game of 'building a world wide computer network' is
leaking through into the present game of 'dying in the cold'.
You can probably take any bum in the street and poke around a bit
and find something he can do or is interested in that will lead you back
to the earlier game he was really wanting and able to play.
You will often find that when a person has gone sour on his prime
games in life, he won't bother to play other games even if they could
make him quite well off financially, because he detests them too much
and they aren't worth the effort to him. He can't imagine what he would
do with all that money anyhow, except maybe buy himself a bigger coffin.
Somewhere down deep he would rather starve to death and at least
let everyone else know that his Basic Game was dead, rather than let
everyone think that all was well with the world while he wasted an
Eternity playing at lesser assininities.
He may not want sympathy per se, but he sure as hell wants to make
sure that awareness of the disaster that has befallen him is not lost to
oblivion.
Thus you will find two broad classes of people coming to you for
session. Those who are still on their Basic Game, most of whom will
actually tell you what their Prime Game is within the first few hours of
auditing, and those who have fallen away from their Prime Game to a
point where they don't even know what it is anymore and aren't quite
sure to believe you when you start asking for what it might be.
Worse they are scared witless to remember it, so fear
of finding out, learning, remembering, knowing, seeing etc will
have to be run.
Is there anything you could know that could kill you or your body?
Some of this second group will actually be coming to you to find
help on how to die more painlessly, rather than recover their will to
live. You will find in this band of failure some rather strange
concepts of help.
Really though its all just because they have no hope. You restore
that hope and get them going on it again, and they will understand sane
help just as well as the next guy.
But hope at this level is not merely the hope of a human being, but
the hope of a God unit looking to regain his sense of responsibility for
things and his eternal future.
In fact poking around on the subject of help with your preclear
will go a long ways to helping you spot where they are in their cycle of
failure.
Once the Prime Game is 'gone' to the person, once he has suppressed
its memory and knowledge out of existence, he becomes very hard to audit
on any subject but his Prime Game, and even that will be a bear to
uncover, because of the rage and emotion that got encysted with it. He
just doesn't dare admit he could ever have that Game back again.
Jesus he would have to be happy and enthralled with life again,
and that would be DANGEROUS, you see?
What would his grand mother think?
He thinks that even if he got that game back again, things would
still never be right again for having lost it in the first place.
This is a big one.
Its one thing to have lost a game, its quite another to have been
an eternal fool.
The human can't handle it, only the God unit can.
His will to live was threatened by the loss of his Prime Game, and
stirring it up again will actually threaten the physical life of his
body. Thus you had better know what you are doing or you might have a
slightly less than warm preclear on your hands.
The trick of course is once you have restored hope, not to crush it
out again, or let others do the same.
Also teach them to restore hope and make case progress with others,
because even while they have a case, they can easily help those doing
better than they are while they handle their own case in good time.
By the way, the first group will not only be much easier to audit,
but they will also be doing better in life including financially. So
they will often be more able to pay you for your work as an auditor, and
take a lot less time to get a happy and satisfactory result on.
You don't HAVE to charge for auditing, it will all come back to you
in good time anyhow. But most people just won't make any case gain
unless they do pay you something for your time. They will be begging to
once he gain starts rolling in.
The second group though will be surrounded with ruin and despair in
their lives. They will be rotting from the inside out, they won't have
lucrative jobs, they will be half suicidal most of the time, and usually
addicted to all kinds of drugs, often psychoactive.
The first group often can't fathom the second group, and the second
group usually doesn't like the first group.
The succeeders can't understand the failures yet, and the failures
can't stand the succeeders.
To be honest those still doing well in life just have no clue
how bad it can get, and won't have the confront to deal with the
failures.
Thus the temptation is to slough off the second group as the
flotsam and jetsam of life, the losers who 'don't want to play any
more'.
This results in the 'Fire Hydrant Auditor or C/S', you know the
kind of guy who is always being pissed on by Dog PC's.
The first group always excuse their failures with the second group
by saying "Well he didn't WANT to get better."
The truth is though that anyone can get their goals crushed, all it
takes is a long enough sojourn in this space time game stream. So the
state you find a being in relative to his Prime Game is not so much a
function of the quality of the being, but more a function of how long he
has been here with out help or understanding, and how hard he tried to
win.
He has been trying to live life without an Operating Manual on
Prime Goals and Postulates.
It is also often a function of how BIG a game he was trying to
play, the Lavender seller in the street doesn't attract as much
opposition as the World Builder. Selling Lavenders may actually even
FIT into the agenda of and be encouraged by the Forces of Evil, but
Changing the Course of History probably wouldn't.
Also the bigger the game you are playing the more people you
effect, and thus the ruin that one little mistake can bring can be many
times bigger for the World Builder than for the Lavender Seller.
You know the world turned on its side dumping everyone into
outer space, totally unexpected...
Now everyone is wagging their finger at him saying who the
hell are you to think you could make things better!
Some of the regrets you will find on the World Builder will be
monumental. He just could never make it up to all those people...
So don't slough off a being just because his game is in ruin and
his finances are low. He may be one of those World Builders who stuck
his neck out for you one too many times, or just a little too far. He
will need forgiveness for the scope, span, depth and field of his
mistakes and the wake of disaster he left behind him, and he will need
some exchange for the good he did do.
Just remember though that if you do manage to recover one of these
World Builders, the comfortable little future that you had planned for
yourself may be history. Hopefully it will be a better future for all,
but it will be new.
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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CASE AND GAMES
ACT - 54
12 March 1994
Copyright (C) 1994 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
Case has to do with Unwillingness and Games.
Ultimately case is some form of having to play a game you don't
want to play, or not having a game you do want to play.
A chess player at a chess match may be 'unwilling to lose' but he
is willing to play, and willing to risk losing and willing and *EAGER*
to have the other player BE as his opponent. This is an ideal game and
is a standard of caselessness.
Spot the games in your life, spot your opponents and spot
the eagerness level you have for each game and opponent.
Eagerness is called INVITE.
Invite places full knowing willing responsibility on the part of
both players for the other player being there. Both players are putting
each otther there.
Caselessness therefore is having games you are willing to play,
games you are willing and eager to play, and willing to win or lose,
along with the ability to invent or find new games which you are willing
and eager to play and willing to win or lose.
Why wouldn't someone be willing to win or lose a game?
Because both result in losing the presence of the game, and if
games are scarce, winning a game is just as bad as losing a game.
The unwillingness to play a particular game is related to the
unwillingness to HAVE the game and your opposition, so it relates to an
unwillingness to OPERATE the game, which amounts to unwillingness to
LOCATE the various components of the game in space and time and get on
with playing it.
Unwillingness leads to NOT PUTTING IT THERE.
The components of a game are yourself as a player, others as your
opponents, perhaps spectators, umpires, and the various parts of the
playing field whatever they may be.
A being who is in a game that he is unwilling to play tries to make
nothing of the other side, the playing field or his own position in the
game, saying it isn't there, it isn't important, he won't play etc.
This is NOT-ISness.
He will even develop psychosomatic conditions and limitations that
are designed to get him out of the game, or failing that, to get others
to play the game for him, and yet give him the winnings.
Such handicap conditions can even be used to help you get INTO a
game that others don't want you playing.
Psychosomatic conditions can be used against one's own team mates
in the game to get them to let you out of the game or help you play, and
they can be used against the opponents to get them to leave you alone or
let you win.
When a person comes to you for session, what they want handled is
usually some form of problem, regret, upset or inability on the subject
of the games of life, of having fun in a space time game stream.
Often the most important game is the game of making a living which
in the end is the game of keeping games going.
Life is a dream, and it is a game, so it is sort of an arcade game
where spirits can take sides and take on the various forms that are
operating in the game such as a body or whatever, and they do this
primarily for fun.
When spirits are no longer having fun, they leave the game, or
change the game or start a new game.
If they are unable to leave a game, or there is a scarcity of games
to change to, or they are unable to invent new games, then they will
become very unhappy with life as a game, things will become very serious
for them, they will develop psychosomatic conditions to help them make
the unwanted games of life more enjoyable or bearable. A psychosomatic
condition is an effort to become willing or able to be in the game by
becoming unable to play the game.
It's an effort to continue playing a game by being unable to win.
or
It's an effort to win a game by being unable to play.
Therefore it might make sense to make your first address in session
be to the subject of games. Specifically wanted and unwanted games.
"Tell me some games you want to play and can play."
"Tell me some games you want to play and can't play."
"Tell me some games you want to play but have to play anyhow."
"Tell me some games you don't want to play and don't have to play."
"Tell me some games you don't want to play and have to play."
"Tell me some games you don't want to play but can't play anyhow."
The purpose of this is to find the central core of games the person
considers they have to play and don't want to, and the games they want
to play and can't.
It is here you will find the 1st postulate of your preclear, his
Basic Goal for this life and for many previous lives in a row. It is
what your preclear is UP TO in the space time game stream. You will
often find they are in such apathy about their true game or purpose in
life, that most of what they are doing with their time is playing
substitute games that allow them to side step the major failures of
their lives. Their game of choice is broken so they play some other
game.
Their 'condition' is their excuse to themselves and to others
why they are failing to play the proper game.
When they are doing really bad, they are merely playing to survive,
they usually will be found at a subsistence level of existence, meaning
they are just barely managing to eat and have a roof over their heads,
because they have fallen away from any worthwhile games that would have
produced affluence for them. Here is your bum in the street who owns
one pair of clothes and teaches computer programming to the homeless and
the destitute.
The earlier game of 'building a world wide computer network' is
leaking through into the present game of 'dying in the cold'.
You can probably take any bum in the street and poke around a bit
and find something he can do or is interested in that will lead you back
to the earlier game he was really wanting and able to play.
You will often find that when a person has gone sour on his prime
games in life, he won't bother to play other games even if they could
make him quite well off financially, because he detests them too much
and they aren't worth the effort to him. He can't imagine what he would
do with all that money anyhow, except maybe buy himself a bigger coffin.
Somewhere down deep he would rather starve to death and at least
let everyone else know that his Basic Game was dead, rather than let
everyone think that all was well with the world while he wasted an
Eternity playing at lesser assininities.
He may not want sympathy per se, but he sure as hell wants to make
sure that awareness of the disaster that has befallen him is not lost to
oblivion.
Thus you will find two broad classes of people coming to you for
session. Those who are still on their Basic Game, most of whom will
actually tell you what their Prime Game is within the first few hours of
auditing, and those who have fallen away from their Prime Game to a
point where they don't even know what it is anymore and aren't quite
sure to believe you when you start asking for what it might be.
Worse they are scared witless to remember it, so fear
of finding out, learning, remembering, knowing, seeing etc will
have to be run.
Is there anything you could know that could kill you or your body?
Some of this second group will actually be coming to you to find
help on how to die more painlessly, rather than recover their will to
live. You will find in this band of failure some rather strange
concepts of help.
Really though its all just because they have no hope. You restore
that hope and get them going on it again, and they will understand sane
help just as well as the next guy.
But hope at this level is not merely the hope of a human being, but
the hope of a God unit looking to regain his sense of responsibility for
things and his eternal future.
In fact poking around on the subject of help with your preclear
will go a long ways to helping you spot where they are in their cycle of
failure.
Once the Prime Game is 'gone' to the person, once he has suppressed
its memory and knowledge out of existence, he becomes very hard to audit
on any subject but his Prime Game, and even that will be a bear to
uncover, because of the rage and emotion that got encysted with it. He
just doesn't dare admit he could ever have that Game back again.
Jesus he would have to be happy and enthralled with life again,
and that would be DANGEROUS, you see?
What would his grand mother think?
He thinks that even if he got that game back again, things would
still never be right again for having lost it in the first place.
This is a big one.
Its one thing to have lost a game, its quite another to have been
an eternal fool.
The human can't handle it, only the God unit can.
His will to live was threatened by the loss of his Prime Game, and
stirring it up again will actually threaten the physical life of his
body. Thus you had better know what you are doing or you might have a
slightly less than warm preclear on your hands.
The trick of course is once you have restored hope, not to crush it
out again, or let others do the same.
Also teach them to restore hope and make case progress with others,
because even while they have a case, they can easily help those doing
better than they are while they handle their own case in good time.
By the way, the first group will not only be much easier to audit,
but they will also be doing better in life including financially. So
they will often be more able to pay you for your work as an auditor, and
take a lot less time to get a happy and satisfactory result on.
You don't HAVE to charge for auditing, it will all come back to you
in good time anyhow. But most people just won't make any case gain
unless they do pay you something for your time. They will be begging to
once he gain starts rolling in.
The second group though will be surrounded with ruin and despair in
their lives. They will be rotting from the inside out, they won't have
lucrative jobs, they will be half suicidal most of the time, and usually
addicted to all kinds of drugs, often psychoactive.
The first group often can't fathom the second group, and the second
group usually doesn't like the first group.
The succeeders can't understand the failures yet, and the failures
can't stand the succeeders.
To be honest those still doing well in life just have no clue
how bad it can get, and won't have the confront to deal with the
failures.
Thus the temptation is to slough off the second group as the
flotsam and jetsam of life, the losers who 'don't want to play any
more'.
This results in the 'Fire Hydrant Auditor or C/S', you know the
kind of guy who is always being pissed on by Dog PC's.
The first group always excuse their failures with the second group
by saying "Well he didn't WANT to get better."
The truth is though that anyone can get their goals crushed, all it
takes is a long enough sojourn in this space time game stream. So the
state you find a being in relative to his Prime Game is not so much a
function of the quality of the being, but more a function of how long he
has been here with out help or understanding, and how hard he tried to
win.
He has been trying to live life without an Operating Manual on
Prime Goals and Postulates.
It is also often a function of how BIG a game he was trying to
play, the Lavender seller in the street doesn't attract as much
opposition as the World Builder. Selling Lavenders may actually even
FIT into the agenda of and be encouraged by the Forces of Evil, but
Changing the Course of History probably wouldn't.
Also the bigger the game you are playing the more people you
effect, and thus the ruin that one little mistake can bring can be many
times bigger for the World Builder than for the Lavender Seller.
You know the world turned on its side dumping everyone into
outer space, totally unexpected...
Now everyone is wagging their finger at him saying who the
hell are you to think you could make things better!
Some of the regrets you will find on the World Builder will be
monumental. He just could never make it up to all those people...
So don't slough off a being just because his game is in ruin and
his finances are low. He may be one of those World Builders who stuck
his neck out for you one too many times, or just a little too far. He
will need forgiveness for the scope, span, depth and field of his
mistakes and the wake of disaster he left behind him, and he will need
some exchange for the good he did do.
Just remember though that if you do manage to recover one of these
World Builders, the comfortable little future that you had planned for
yourself may be history. Hopefully it will be a better future for all,
but it will be new.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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