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DEAD FOREVER
www.deadforever.com by William Campbell
(Response to private mail)
Xenu certainly has an earlier similar :) It's small time compared to
the loss of the proof.
Also Xenu didn't necessarily happen to me and thee, but to the clusters
floating everywhere.
Anyhow, Hubbard was version 0.1 alpha spaghetti code.
The last 3 years have provided me with stuff that actually moves
the mountain in me, but it gets more and more outrageous.
It is also getting harder and harder to get up and move around, a
problem both in motivation and pure counter force.
But I am feeling better, in hell though I be, not physically dying
any more, and I can feel emotion now where before I was dead as a door
nail. It's mostly sorrow, but that's better than concrete and rebar.
I am done with the first book of dead forever, perhaps I am beyond
enjoying someone's writing quality, its the story I am interested in,
he weaves the Xenu story into an existing real life scenario, and shows
how it may have developed back in those times.
Right or not, it rings a bell, there are clearly two kinds
of people on Earth, the dead and the dead squared.
The dead want to know, the others decidedly do not.
The dead seek a near life experience, the others can't wait to be
gone for good.
Campbell's claim is that the universe was taken over by the zots
(zombie robots), status quo society, hive minds a long time ago, and only
a few planets and peoples remained free to mis behave, dance, laugh, fuck,
get drunk, give the police state the finger, and enjoy themselves.
At that time they knew they were in an immortal time stream but were
losing the ability to take on new bodies easily, so keeping the one you
had as long as you could, was becoming more and more a priority.
If you could imagine a Taliban in black suits and ties, you might get
a zot pretty close. He calls them Bob's, because they wear Black On
Black.
Hubbard's claim was that it was over population that drove Xenu to
invent the dead forever implant, the story so far says it was merely the
desire to get rid of the over population of recalcitrant un re-educatable
rebells.
SOL (Shit Outta Luck) was chosen as the sun to send them to because it
is so distant from anything, and the implant made very sure everyone
either believed in death forever or hell forever and crazy Gods, and no
one was able to control their rebirth cycle after the implant.
My problem with any of this, beyond the 10 kilotons of force in my face
is the amnesia. Degradation doesn't even cover the surface of the state I
am in. Which is why I know there is an earlier bigger incident than mere
wars for men's minds, an incident in which we made ourselves vulnerable to
such a ludicrosity in the first place.
The implant as I have been able to audit it so far has 4 items in it,
It's a descending staircase, one lives through it and then goes out
the bottom 'forever' in time.
Alive Forever
Heaven Forever
Hell Forever
Dead Forever
The final stages lead a being to forget how to take on another body or
be unable or unwilling to, and so after they die here, they float into a
huge tar pit of sick dead and dying beings, a growing sargasso sea of the
spirit, that surrounds Earth and eventually they form NOTS clusters well
on their way out the tubes to the garbage pail at the end of time :)
Some attach to other people's bodies and time tracks, and park them
selves IN that peron's time track down in the past where they are out of
sight of present time, causing occlusions of the past, hoping and praying
that the host being gives up his interest in the past, and never gets his
time tracked cleared so they can hide and die there forever :)
Clearing a time track involves clearing the bugs out of it, the
clusters parked in its past, and the occlusions which they cause, and once
the past starts showing up again, it can be cleared directly until the
time track is no more.
And if you can even understand the above two sentences without
going cross eyed, you been in scientology way too long...
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Adore considers that the single most important certainty to
attain, after certainty that something exists, certainty of doubt and
certainty of differences, is
CERTAINTY OF AGENCY.
Agency means causal agency, who or what is cause.
Adore defines 3 states.
Followingness. This means B followed A.
Dependable followingness. This means B (apparently!) always
follows A.
Necessary dependable followingness. This means B MUST follow A.
Followingness does not imply Dependable Followingness.
Just because B follows A once or a million times, doesn't mean B
will always follow A .
Dependable followingness does not imply necessary dependable
followingness.
Just because B does always follow A, doesn't mean B MUST follow A,
in fact statistically it could be a conincidence that B followed A a
trillion times in a row.
If A is cause of B, if A is SUFFICIENT to cause B, then B MUST
follow A, and we have conditions for necessary dependable followingness,
namely AGENCY between A and B.
Thus certainty of AGENCY is certainty of necessary dependable
followingness.
The Proof states that machines learn about causes across a
space/time distance by looking at effects in themselves made by those
causes 'out there'.
The Proof proves that a machine can never learn with certainty
about the causes that produced those effects.
Since the conscious unit can learn with certainty about it's own
causal agency in some matters, it follows that the conscious unit is not
a machine.
A machine is defined by The Proof as any system of parts
interacting via cause and effect across a space/time distance.
A machine learns by observing changes in state here, namely in
itself, and theorizing about prior changes in state out there that might
have caused the changes in state here.
This is 'learning across a space/time distance', and 'learining by
looking at effects' and The Proof says that certainty of agency can not
arise from this method of learning.
A machine must always *ASSUME* that all effects are caused, all
changes in state here (effect), are preceeded by another change in state
there (cause), and this assumption can not itself be proven by merely
looking at effects here.
Looking at effects does not provide certainty of cause!
Causation is not sufficient to witness causation. - Jane's Law
Therefore wherever there is certainty of agency one is not
'learning by looking at effects', nor 'learning across a space/time
distance', as the ONLY way to learn across a space/time distance IS to
learn by looking at effects.
Certainty that there is learning, but not by looking at effects,
and not across a space/time distance, breaks the hold of the Newtonian
Model on the mind, and it becomes free to operate as a conscious unit
again rather than as a meatball always trying to look at it's own state
to determine the nature of others.
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Adore considers that the single most important certainty to
attain, after certainty that something exists, certainty of doubt and
certainty of differences, is
CERTAINTY OF AGENCY.
Agency means causal agency, who or what is cause.
Adore defines 3 states.
Followingness. This means B followed A.
Dependable followingness. This means B (apparently!) always
follows A.
Necessary dependable followingness. This means B MUST follow A.
Followingness does not imply Dependable Followingness.
Just because B follows A once or a million times, doesn't mean B
will always follow A .
Dependable followingness does not imply necessary dependable
followingness.
Just because B does always follow A, doesn't mean B MUST follow A,
in fact statistically it could be a conincidence that B followed A a
trillion times in a row.
If A is cause of B, if A is SUFFICIENT to cause B, then B MUST
follow A, and we have conditions for necessary dependable followingness,
namely AGENCY between A and B.
Thus certainty of AGENCY is certainty of necessary dependable
followingness.
The Proof states that machines learn about causes across a
space/time distance by looking at effects in themselves made by those
causes 'out there'.
The Proof proves that a machine can never learn with certainty
about the causes that produced those effects.
Since the conscious unit can learn with certainty about it's own
causal agency in some matters, it follows that the conscious unit is not
a machine.
A machine is defined by The Proof as any system of parts
interacting via cause and effect across a space/time distance.
A machine learns by observing changes in state here, namely in
itself, and theorizing about prior changes in state out there that might
have caused the changes in state here.
This is 'learning across a space/time distance', and 'learining by
looking at effects' and The Proof says that certainty of agency can not
arise from this method of learning.
A machine must always *ASSUME* that all effects are caused, all
changes in state here (effect), are preceeded by another change in state
there (cause), and this assumption can not itself be proven by merely
looking at effects here.
Looking at effects does not provide certainty of cause!
Causation is not sufficient to witness causation. - Jane's Law
Therefore wherever there is certainty of agency one is not
'learning by looking at effects', nor 'learning across a space/time
distance', as the ONLY way to learn across a space/time distance IS to
learn by looking at effects.
Certainty that there is learning, but not by looking at effects,
and not across a space/time distance, breaks the hold of the Newtonian
Model on the mind, and it becomes free to operate as a conscious unit
again rather than as a meatball always trying to look at it's own state
to determine the nature of others.
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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