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CIRCLE OF LIGHT
ACT - 34
26 December 1993
Copyright (C) 1993 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
I had a dream last night.
I was on a dark and smelly planet, the skies were black and red
from volcanic fire.
In the middle of the planet was a tall mountain surrounded by dark
and unhospitable plains below.
On the mountain was a small band of people who were throwing rocks
taken from their mountain at the people below. They had contempt for
the people below and didn't want them to come up on their mountain.
The people below cowered as the rocks came down upon them, and they
hid themselves alone in their holes in the ground where they could not
be hurt.
Then out of the blue a brilliant point of light flashed out amongst
the people below. It grew strong and steady and people tried to gather
to it to become connected to it.
The light began to elongate and it slowly traced out a solid white
line in the darkness, meandering almost willfully among the people
below.
As it wandered and grew in length, the people who were close to it
became connected immediately, and others, who were farther way,
struggled through great hardship to become connected to the line of
light too.
Those who became connected found that they could talk to each other
effortlessly who were also on the line, and you could see the ebb and
flow of their thoughts and feelings sparkle and flow along the corridor
of white power connecting them.
Soon the line of light became so long it started to bend around the
mountain and take in people on the other side too. As it circled around
the mountain more and more people became connected to it who had never
even known that each other existed.
The communication between them was as the flow of a mighty river
straining the very nature of the line itself.
During all this time the people on the mountain were still throwing
rocks at the people below, almost oblivious to the white line and its
growth around the mountain.
Only the people connected to the line knew what was happening.
And then the white line finally came full circle, back to where it
had started, and it connected up with itself, completely surrounding the
mountain.
At that moment a quiet hush fell over the line, as everyone knew in
that moment something had changed forever.
Suddenly someone picked up a rock that had been thrown at him, by
the people on the mountain, and he looked at it long and hard. Then he
looked up at the mountain thoughtfully, and then again at the rock in
his hand, and then HE THREW IT BACK!
Instantly everyone around the mountain knew what had been done, and
they picked up rocks that had been raining on them and they too threw
them back.
The people high up on the mountain were stunned, this had never
happened before. They dove back into hiding and there was peace on the
mountain, and no more rocks were ever thrown.
Homer
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Curiosus (curiosus@fastmail.fm) wrote:
>homer@lightlink.com wrote:
>> Was this being actual?
>>
>> BT?
>>
>> What do you think?
>I have several hypothesis about these matters:
Do you have the same hypothesis about the people you meet in the
waking state?
If not, why do you discriminate between people in the 'waking'
state, and people in 'sleep dreams'?
The people in my sleep dreams are more intelligent, more
beautiful, more powerful, more creative and more alive than the beings
in the waking state most of whom seem to be mostly dead.
Christ I even get really good auditing from them sometimes.
And you know I wake up with piano music I *REMEMBER* still in my
fingers from who knows how many time tracks ago. I can only cry as I
watch it fade from my hands when I wake up. Sometimes it takes 15 to
20 seconds though...
How long has this been goin' on?
>1. Pure imagination and mock-ups
>2. Virtual identities (valences, "mental programs" which are activated)
>3. Attached entities (BTs)
>4. Communication with other beings from earth, other planets, or
>disembodied
>5. Manifestation of invisible connections which form the woof and warp
>of life.
>Your dream could be anyone of these manifestations, from what you
>wrote.
>The fact that we have questions means that we don't know enough about
>the true nature of life.
>For example do you understand fully the concept of thetan as defined in
>scientology?
The thetan is that which is aware of being aware. It is the
looker, looking at the "looked-at" through the "looked-through".
The thetan is capable of the 4 basic perfect certainties of
existence:
I AM
I WANT
I KNOW
I DO
They are perfect certainties in that they can not be doubted, for
to doubt them is to prove them.
Thus they can not be wrong.
A nothing could not wonder whether it was a nothing or a
something.
I doubt I am, therefore I am.
One can not doubt without being certain that one doubts.
He who doubts that he doubts is in hiding from perfect certainty.
This is brazen, shameless out integrity.
Since God is perfect, where there is perfection there is probably
God.
Thus perfect certainty is a window directly into the mind and
operation of God.
Me, thee and the High Us.
Beyond these things a thetan is probably much more than meets the
eye.
The primary difference between a meatball and a dreamball is
one's conception of the relationship between lookers and other
lookers, and also between lookers and their respective
looked-through's and looked-at's.
Meatballs think the looker is MADE of a looked-at, they think
that consciousness-of and perfect certainty is merely a process in
choice ground sirloin.
To them the mind of God is a hamburger.
:)
To spot the thetan, spot the desire to spot the thetan.
Spot the intent to spot the thetan.
Spot the spotter of the desire and intent to spot the thetan.
Spot the doubt that one has spotted the thetan.
Spot the certainty of that doubt.
Spot the perfection of that certainty.
Homer
>Me, I don't, and that is one of these underlying questions which are at
>the core of my quest.
>--
>Curiosus
>http://www.geocities.com/curiosus_2005/spcos.htm
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Curiosus (curiosus@fastmail.fm) wrote:
>homer@lightlink.com wrote:
>> Was this being actual?
>>
>> BT?
>>
>> What do you think?
>I have several hypothesis about these matters:
Do you have the same hypothesis about the people you meet in the
waking state?
If not, why do you discriminate between people in the 'waking'
state, and people in 'sleep dreams'?
The people in my sleep dreams are more intelligent, more
beautiful, more powerful, more creative and more alive than the beings
in the waking state most of whom seem to be mostly dead.
Christ I even get really good auditing from them sometimes.
And you know I wake up with piano music I *REMEMBER* still in my
fingers from who knows how many time tracks ago. I can only cry as I
watch it fade from my hands when I wake up. Sometimes it takes 15 to
20 seconds though...
How long has this been goin' on?
>1. Pure imagination and mock-ups
>2. Virtual identities (valences, "mental programs" which are activated)
>3. Attached entities (BTs)
>4. Communication with other beings from earth, other planets, or
>disembodied
>5. Manifestation of invisible connections which form the woof and warp
>of life.
>Your dream could be anyone of these manifestations, from what you
>wrote.
>The fact that we have questions means that we don't know enough about
>the true nature of life.
>For example do you understand fully the concept of thetan as defined in
>scientology?
The thetan is that which is aware of being aware. It is the
looker, looking at the "looked-at" through the "looked-through".
The thetan is capable of the 4 basic perfect certainties of
existence:
I AM
I WANT
I KNOW
I DO
They are perfect certainties in that they can not be doubted, for
to doubt them is to prove them.
Thus they can not be wrong.
A nothing could not wonder whether it was a nothing or a
something.
I doubt I am, therefore I am.
One can not doubt without being certain that one doubts.
He who doubts that he doubts is in hiding from perfect certainty.
This is brazen, shameless out integrity.
Since God is perfect, where there is perfection there is probably
God.
Thus perfect certainty is a window directly into the mind and
operation of God.
Me, thee and the High Us.
Beyond these things a thetan is probably much more than meets the
eye.
The primary difference between a meatball and a dreamball is
one's conception of the relationship between lookers and other
lookers, and also between lookers and their respective
looked-through's and looked-at's.
Meatballs think the looker is MADE of a looked-at, they think
that consciousness-of and perfect certainty is merely a process in
choice ground sirloin.
To them the mind of God is a hamburger.
:)
To spot the thetan, spot the desire to spot the thetan.
Spot the intent to spot the thetan.
Spot the spotter of the desire and intent to spot the thetan.
Spot the doubt that one has spotted the thetan.
Spot the certainty of that doubt.
Spot the perfection of that certainty.
Homer
>Me, I don't, and that is one of these underlying questions which are at
>the core of my quest.
>--
>Curiosus
>http://www.geocities.com/curiosus_2005/spcos.htm
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Richard Platek \(Lion\) (richard@solardepot.com) wrote:
>Karma is an answer to the question why?
>A question I am still asking.
"Why is it?
Say "It is."
Say "Why?"
Say "It is."
Say "Why?"
Good you make the grade. Some people are so stupid
they can't do the wrong thing twice." - Adore
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Richard Platek \(Lion\) (richard@solardepot.com) wrote:
>Karma is an answer to the question why?
>A question I am still asking.
"Why is it?
Say "It is."
Say "Why?"
Say "It is."
Say "Why?"
Good you make the grade. Some people are so stupid
they can't do the wrong thing twice." - Adore
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THE BROKEN CHALICE
The soul forms a single crystal in the Chalice of Life.
The Chalice can not be broken or destroyed because it is an eternal
structure forming the fabric of the AllThatIs.
The soul 'breaks' the Chalice when it decides that it no longer
wants to be in relation to another soul FOREVER, another crystal in the
Chalice.
The soul's own crystal goes dark, and the Chalice is marked at that
point forever more, but never broken.
It is not possible to throw enough hate or harm at another being to
affect them. Oh yes, you may be able to affect their body or other
accoutrements de la vie, but in the end the other being can only affect
himself.
But you certainly can put yourself in jail.
For by casting out another's light FOREVER, it doesn't matter who
they are, you dim your own abode.
Life is made of dicoms, a soul who is 'disconnected' from the
Fountainhead of Source, can act as poorly as a soul, who is connected,
can act well.
Imagine a negative God.
Thus those who would get rid of all assholes, would get rid of all
God's too.
What was RUINED (-8.0 on the tone scale) was not an object or
creation, but a relationship between beings, different crystals in the
same eternal Chalice.
They have no choice but to mend the rift within themselves to
restore the brilliance of their own existence, regardless of what the
other continues to do to themselves.
Homer
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THE BROKEN CHALICE
The soul forms a single crystal in the Chalice of Life.
The Chalice can not be broken or destroyed because it is an eternal
structure forming the fabric of the AllThatIs.
The soul 'breaks' the Chalice when it decides that it no longer
wants to be in relation to another soul FOREVER, another crystal in the
Chalice.
The soul's own crystal goes dark, and the Chalice is marked at that
point forever more, but never broken.
It is not possible to throw enough hate or harm at another being to
affect them. Oh yes, you may be able to affect their body or other
accoutrements de la vie, but in the end the other being can only affect
himself.
But you certainly can put yourself in jail.
For by casting out another's light FOREVER, it doesn't matter who
they are, you dim your own abode.
Life is made of dicoms, a soul who is 'disconnected' from the
Fountainhead of Source, can act as poorly as a soul, who is connected,
can act well.
Imagine a negative God.
Thus those who would get rid of all assholes, would get rid of all
God's too.
What was RUINED (-8.0 on the tone scale) was not an object or
creation, but a relationship between beings, different crystals in the
same eternal Chalice.
They have no choice but to mend the rift within themselves to
restore the brilliance of their own existence, regardless of what the
other continues to do to themselves.
Homer
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THE SOURCE OF ALL SUFFERING
It's not that the original being wanted to suffer.
Its more that he wanted to create himself as a being who was
suffering but didn't want to suffer.
Almost the same thing but not quite.
He wanted to be someone who was stuck with things that he didn't
want. This wasn't because he wanted what he didn't want, but because he
wanted to experience not wanting things, and then chase making them
better.
He wanted to make a game out of making things better.
There was an aesthetic to it.
The aesthetic is ineffable, so you have to see it to believe it.
Until you have seen it, it is going to be unreal to you, and that
is as intended.
So the idea behind clearing is you take this being and all these
things he doesn't want, and you get him to recontact the original WANT
to be stuck with things that he didn't want. That puts him back in
contact with the original aesthetic of the situation, which allows him
to accept and *APPRECIATE* what he did again.
That's a perfect duplication of the original moment of creation.
It wasn't an accident, it wasn't an error, it was a DIRECT
INTENTION, so when he contacts his original desire to not have things he
wants, or have things he dosn't want, you put him back into the saddle
again of that direct intention, and of course when he lets go of it, all
the things he didn't want vanish, along with the situation of being a
being who is stuck with things he doesn't want.
Nothing can out persist the withdrawal of the intention to have it
persist.
Dig it and don't leave it.
Remember, what he wants as the creature is not what he wanted as
the creator, because what he wanted as the creator was to be stuck with
things as a creature he didn't want.
There is a wall of alienness between the two, that alienness covers
the ineffable aesthetic.
The creature is born withdrawing his intention to have bad things
persist. It doesn't work, because the bad things weren't created with
the intention of the creature, they were created with the intention of
the creator!
The creature can't create the universe he is a creature in, because
the creature WOULDN'T, but the creator would, so only the creator can!
The creator has his home in the ineffable aesthetic that motivates
him to create such things, the creature can barely conceive it, and he
alternates between fear and outrage when he comes near it.
It is very tempting to consider clearing to be an activity that has
to do with changing the world. This implies that the world is not as
you want it and you have to change it to make it more acceptable to
yourself.
This is the creature's view.
However we are trying to clear the CREATURE out of the creator, not
make the world better for the creature!
The creature is all that is wrong with the Creator and all that
needs clearing, erasure and vanishment.
Clearing has nothing to do with changing the world, but with
changing the person's orientation to the world, and reoptimizing his
ability to contact his own sovereign desires about how things are, and
the aesthetic behind them, so that he can then change himself with
regard to his relationship to the world, including leave it as it is.
Notice that the creator did create the world in the first place, so
even when unmotivated by creature desire, he may yet change it to
something else. But probably not something that would make the creature
any happier!
You get high enough and you hit this great big OKness with
everything, total power to change anything, and no inclination to do so
whatsoever, because its fine as it is which is why you created it as it
is in the first place.
It is tempting to say that we can't get out unless everyone gets
out, but this is flatly untrue. Every being has the sovereign right to
create whatever reality they want for themselves, whether good or bad,
and there is no reason whatsoever for anyone else to get pulled into it.
It would in fact be a violation of the other being's sovereign desire to
mess with his crucifixion.
*EVEN IF YOU COULD*
If being's have made long term agreements to not leave until all
leave, that is one thing, but basically you can't even get involved in
another's salvation unless they have invited you in and scripted the
help in general if not in specific that you are going to give them from
beginning to end.
It is quite conceivable that a compulsive need to DO something
about the world, to change it to make it better, actually draws a being
more into the world and sticks him to it like glue thus making
everything worse for everyone including himself.
The being's postulate that everyone else IS suffering and NEEDS his
help, adds to that reality by however much power the being puts into his
postulate.
If postulates are cause, then postulating that others are suffering
and need help will CAUSE that condition to just that degree.
Thus when a being gets high enough, its better he just leave and
stop postulating things about the universe at all. That makes for one
less being postulating that everything is going to hell, thus making it
so.
This is in part why many people have an inherent suspicion of the
goody two shoes personality.
This is because the need to change things is predicated on the
concept that one is NOT responsible FOR things as they are, but had
better damn well take responsibility OVER things as they are and make
them better.
That certainly seems like the adult thing to do, but have you
looked at the state of adults recently?
The goody two shoes person will help end the plague, but she
certainly wouldn't create a universe wherein plagues could be created.
You get the difference between the creature and the creator here?
Every creature is a goody two shoes, and every Creator is its arch
enemy, it just turns out to be itself! But you can see why getting
someone sessionable and accessible as a *CREATOR* is so damn hard.
They will audit forever as the creature, getting better and better
able to change the world, but you know, way down at the end of the line,
you will have helped them become more stuck to their cross than they
could ever have done themselves.
You can't take responsibility OVER, what you are not taking
responsibility FOR having created or invited in the first place with
knowing willing cause.
Once you have recontacted the fountain head of source and taken
responsibility for things as they are, the impulse to change them
becomes ludicrous, for that is *EXACTLY* what you did the last time you
descended into this mess.
"Whoa! Look at that, gotta change it..."
And yes there was an aesthetic to it, Adore calls it High
Appreciation for Ludicrous Demise, and yes it was crafted with Majesty,
Class and Pride, what Adore calls Grand and Excalibur Design.
But in truth that aesthetic is ineffable, and it is that ineffable
aesthetic that the being must regain vision of again, if he is to regain
sovereignty over himself, and own his own creature again.
That aesthetic is WHY the creator creates. Without the why, there
is no hope of duplicating the creator.
That sovereignty is never lost, it in fact can not be lost, as that
sovereignty is all that is operating and all that ever has operated.
The being is merely sitting on the creature side of the fence rather
than the creator side of the fence.
Once he flips, you have an OT.
It's mainly a matter of beauty, love, postulate, perception and
willingness.
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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THE SOURCE OF ALL SUFFERING
It's not that the original being wanted to suffer.
Its more that he wanted to create himself as a being who was
suffering but didn't want to suffer.
Almost the same thing but not quite.
He wanted to be someone who was stuck with things that he didn't
want. This wasn't because he wanted what he didn't want, but because he
wanted to experience not wanting things, and then chase making them
better.
He wanted to make a game out of making things better.
There was an aesthetic to it.
The aesthetic is ineffable, so you have to see it to believe it.
Until you have seen it, it is going to be unreal to you, and that
is as intended.
So the idea behind clearing is you take this being and all these
things he doesn't want, and you get him to recontact the original WANT
to be stuck with things that he didn't want. That puts him back in
contact with the original aesthetic of the situation, which allows him
to accept and *APPRECIATE* what he did again.
That's a perfect duplication of the original moment of creation.
It wasn't an accident, it wasn't an error, it was a DIRECT
INTENTION, so when he contacts his original desire to not have things he
wants, or have things he dosn't want, you put him back into the saddle
again of that direct intention, and of course when he lets go of it, all
the things he didn't want vanish, along with the situation of being a
being who is stuck with things he doesn't want.
Nothing can out persist the withdrawal of the intention to have it
persist.
Dig it and don't leave it.
Remember, what he wants as the creature is not what he wanted as
the creator, because what he wanted as the creator was to be stuck with
things as a creature he didn't want.
There is a wall of alienness between the two, that alienness covers
the ineffable aesthetic.
The creature is born withdrawing his intention to have bad things
persist. It doesn't work, because the bad things weren't created with
the intention of the creature, they were created with the intention of
the creator!
The creature can't create the universe he is a creature in, because
the creature WOULDN'T, but the creator would, so only the creator can!
The creator has his home in the ineffable aesthetic that motivates
him to create such things, the creature can barely conceive it, and he
alternates between fear and outrage when he comes near it.
It is very tempting to consider clearing to be an activity that has
to do with changing the world. This implies that the world is not as
you want it and you have to change it to make it more acceptable to
yourself.
This is the creature's view.
However we are trying to clear the CREATURE out of the creator, not
make the world better for the creature!
The creature is all that is wrong with the Creator and all that
needs clearing, erasure and vanishment.
Clearing has nothing to do with changing the world, but with
changing the person's orientation to the world, and reoptimizing his
ability to contact his own sovereign desires about how things are, and
the aesthetic behind them, so that he can then change himself with
regard to his relationship to the world, including leave it as it is.
Notice that the creator did create the world in the first place, so
even when unmotivated by creature desire, he may yet change it to
something else. But probably not something that would make the creature
any happier!
You get high enough and you hit this great big OKness with
everything, total power to change anything, and no inclination to do so
whatsoever, because its fine as it is which is why you created it as it
is in the first place.
It is tempting to say that we can't get out unless everyone gets
out, but this is flatly untrue. Every being has the sovereign right to
create whatever reality they want for themselves, whether good or bad,
and there is no reason whatsoever for anyone else to get pulled into it.
It would in fact be a violation of the other being's sovereign desire to
mess with his crucifixion.
*EVEN IF YOU COULD*
If being's have made long term agreements to not leave until all
leave, that is one thing, but basically you can't even get involved in
another's salvation unless they have invited you in and scripted the
help in general if not in specific that you are going to give them from
beginning to end.
It is quite conceivable that a compulsive need to DO something
about the world, to change it to make it better, actually draws a being
more into the world and sticks him to it like glue thus making
everything worse for everyone including himself.
The being's postulate that everyone else IS suffering and NEEDS his
help, adds to that reality by however much power the being puts into his
postulate.
If postulates are cause, then postulating that others are suffering
and need help will CAUSE that condition to just that degree.
Thus when a being gets high enough, its better he just leave and
stop postulating things about the universe at all. That makes for one
less being postulating that everything is going to hell, thus making it
so.
This is in part why many people have an inherent suspicion of the
goody two shoes personality.
This is because the need to change things is predicated on the
concept that one is NOT responsible FOR things as they are, but had
better damn well take responsibility OVER things as they are and make
them better.
That certainly seems like the adult thing to do, but have you
looked at the state of adults recently?
The goody two shoes person will help end the plague, but she
certainly wouldn't create a universe wherein plagues could be created.
You get the difference between the creature and the creator here?
Every creature is a goody two shoes, and every Creator is its arch
enemy, it just turns out to be itself! But you can see why getting
someone sessionable and accessible as a *CREATOR* is so damn hard.
They will audit forever as the creature, getting better and better
able to change the world, but you know, way down at the end of the line,
you will have helped them become more stuck to their cross than they
could ever have done themselves.
You can't take responsibility OVER, what you are not taking
responsibility FOR having created or invited in the first place with
knowing willing cause.
Once you have recontacted the fountain head of source and taken
responsibility for things as they are, the impulse to change them
becomes ludicrous, for that is *EXACTLY* what you did the last time you
descended into this mess.
"Whoa! Look at that, gotta change it..."
And yes there was an aesthetic to it, Adore calls it High
Appreciation for Ludicrous Demise, and yes it was crafted with Majesty,
Class and Pride, what Adore calls Grand and Excalibur Design.
But in truth that aesthetic is ineffable, and it is that ineffable
aesthetic that the being must regain vision of again, if he is to regain
sovereignty over himself, and own his own creature again.
That aesthetic is WHY the creator creates. Without the why, there
is no hope of duplicating the creator.
That sovereignty is never lost, it in fact can not be lost, as that
sovereignty is all that is operating and all that ever has operated.
The being is merely sitting on the creature side of the fence rather
than the creator side of the fence.
Once he flips, you have an OT.
It's mainly a matter of beauty, love, postulate, perception and
willingness.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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RESPECT - NO RESPECT
Continuing to run respect and no respect on mother, demons, mother
demons and demon mothers... :)
The Christ Consciousness is unconditional respect for all things.
The Anti Christ Consciousness is unconditional no respect for all
things.
That's unconditional contempt for all things.
It is thus tempting once one falls down below Christ Consciousness to
fight the Anti Christ Consciousness with unconditional contempt towards
it. That however uses its own power against itself and leads to becoming
what you fear most.
One resolves this by running unconditional respect on the Anti Christ
Consciousness instead. That is very enlightening and robs it of its power
instead.
I have never been able to run ARC straightwire, possibly because
affinity, reality or communication don't really run for me as items, but
respect does.
"Spot a time you had respect for another."
"Spot a time you had no respect for another."
"Spot a time another had respect for you."
"Spot a time another had no respect for you."
others to others, self to self and others to themselves, etc
Also one of the problems of running ARC straightwire on a pc
that had a real bad life is he doesn't have a lot of ARC moments
at all. He may have the misunderstood that in order to run the
process he needs to have a lot of them or else why bother as
it just reminds him how few he had and makes him worse and madder than
hell. And maybe he doesn't want to admit he had any because others
will say "See it wasn't all that bad after all!"
But the truth is, the out of ARC moments stick to him because
of the in ARC moments *EVEN IF ONLY JUST ONE*, so really the point
of running ARC straightwire is to find and locate those possibly
hidden moments of ARC that are causing the rest of the non ARC to
be a problem.
He's a sad effect about having had a whole life of lousy
demon mother, because he had an angel mother for one microsecond
earlier on.
Other items that came up to run for me were,
God Monster - God King
Omni Operating Anti Lord God Almighties -
Omni Operating Lord God Almighties
Got laughter on unconditional contempt on all things, session ended
later flat, no F/N but lots of TA, needle active loose, reading and
running well, not soaring and jamming high, ended at about 4.0 after
having been down to 3.25 a few times.
Don't know if I am looking for another item pair like
respect - no respect, or another terminal like mother, demon etc.
Respect continues to run, its a major item in my life, respecting and
not respecting things and letting people know it! :)
Homer
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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RESPECT - NO RESPECT
Continuing to run respect and no respect on mother, demons, mother
demons and demon mothers... :)
The Christ Consciousness is unconditional respect for all things.
The Anti Christ Consciousness is unconditional no respect for all
things.
That's unconditional contempt for all things.
It is thus tempting once one falls down below Christ Consciousness to
fight the Anti Christ Consciousness with unconditional contempt towards
it. That however uses its own power against itself and leads to becoming
what you fear most.
One resolves this by running unconditional respect on the Anti Christ
Consciousness instead. That is very enlightening and robs it of its power
instead.
I have never been able to run ARC straightwire, possibly because
affinity, reality or communication don't really run for me as items, but
respect does.
"Spot a time you had respect for another."
"Spot a time you had no respect for another."
"Spot a time another had respect for you."
"Spot a time another had no respect for you."
others to others, self to self and others to themselves, etc
Also one of the problems of running ARC straightwire on a pc
that had a real bad life is he doesn't have a lot of ARC moments
at all. He may have the misunderstood that in order to run the
process he needs to have a lot of them or else why bother as
it just reminds him how few he had and makes him worse and madder than
hell. And maybe he doesn't want to admit he had any because others
will say "See it wasn't all that bad after all!"
But the truth is, the out of ARC moments stick to him because
of the in ARC moments *EVEN IF ONLY JUST ONE*, so really the point
of running ARC straightwire is to find and locate those possibly
hidden moments of ARC that are causing the rest of the non ARC to
be a problem.
He's a sad effect about having had a whole life of lousy
demon mother, because he had an angel mother for one microsecond
earlier on.
Other items that came up to run for me were,
God Monster - God King
Omni Operating Anti Lord God Almighties -
Omni Operating Lord God Almighties
Got laughter on unconditional contempt on all things, session ended
later flat, no F/N but lots of TA, needle active loose, reading and
running well, not soaring and jamming high, ended at about 4.0 after
having been down to 3.25 a few times.
Don't know if I am looking for another item pair like
respect - no respect, or another terminal like mother, demon etc.
Respect continues to run, its a major item in my life, respecting and
not respecting things and letting people know it! :)
Homer
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(607) 277-0959 cross in Internet Access, Ithaca NY
homer@lightlink.com the line of duty. http://www.lightlink.com
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homer@lightlink.com the line of duty. http://www.lightlink.com
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================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===================
Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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PROOF I
Specifics do not prove generalities.
That this dog is red, does not prove that all dogs are red.
That this dog has 4 legs, does not prove that all dogs have 4
legs.
In this context, proof means Perfect Certainty.
Perfect Certainty means 100 percent certainty with no chance of
being wrong.
Science can only observe a specific instance of something.
Science can never observe a generality, all instances of
something in all places, and times and circumstances.
It can observe for instance that "*THESE* two balls fall at the
same speed in this vacuum."
Science can never observe that "*ALL* balls fall at the same
speed in all places, all times and all vacuums.'
Since science can never observe a generality, it can never prove
a generality.
It can however disprove a generality with one observation to the
contrary.
"These here two balls are not falling at the same speed in a
vacuum, so clearly its not true that all balls fall at the same speed in
a vacuum."
That produces proof, a perfect certainty, that the generality was
false.
Observations are observations of specific instances.
Theories are generalities, an effort to generalize all possible
observed instances.
If enough observations do not disprove the theory, one can attain a
state of trust in the theory and conclude that it is highly unlikely
that any observed instance will ever disprove the theory.
This does not prove the theory right, this is not a perfect
certainty that the theory is true.
At best it is a bet based on sensible trust and high probability
that the theory works well enough for practical purposes,
Direct observations however are always with certainty.
Theory and their generalitzations are always with no certainty.
Theories can also lead to further logically derived predictions
about other specific instances, which can then be verified with
certainty through more observation.
For example, one observes that two balls in a vacuum fall at the
same speed, so one generalizes a theory that all objects fall at the
same speed in a vacuum. From this one predicts that two different sized
cannon balls should fall at approximately the same speed from the Tower
of Pisa, even though it is not a vacuum. One can then do the experiment
and verify if the observation matches the prediction. If it does, the
theory gains further support.
At no time does any theory ever gain perfect certainty or proof.
Theories, being generalities, can only be disproven with certainty.
One must be careful not to confuse a scientific theory in the form
of a generality or 'law of nature' with theories concerning specific
instances that could or can not be observed.
For example, you come home one night and observe your door is open,
there are tracks on the floor, and money is missing from your drawer,
and finger prints are all over the place that don't belong to any of
your house hold people.
One can 'theorize' that someone entered and took the money, that's
a specific instance that is not observed and can not be, because it is
gone in the past.
Notice that even if Joe next door confesses to the crime, hands
back the money, and the prints match his, this does not prove with
perfect certainty that he did it. It may however fit the legal
definition of 'guilty beyond a reasonable doubt'.
This 'beyond reasonable doubt' is again based on trust we place in
basic unprovable theoretical generalities, to the effect that only one
person can have the finger prints, or upon our acceptance that the whole
scene was not set up by the CIA or even by God.
This last is refered to as the third party law (not to be confused
with LRH's third party law) which states that if B follows A, then it is
possible that A caused B directly or that C caused both A and B in such
a way as to make it look like A caused B.
Ultimately the only thing that can be proven certain are specific
observations, and the only thing that can be directly and specifically
observed is one's own conscious pictures and experience.
Everything else is a theory.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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PROOF I
Specifics do not prove generalities.
That this dog is red, does not prove that all dogs are red.
That this dog has 4 legs, does not prove that all dogs have 4
legs.
In this context, proof means Perfect Certainty.
Perfect Certainty means 100 percent certainty with no chance of
being wrong.
Science can only observe a specific instance of something.
Science can never observe a generality, all instances of
something in all places, and times and circumstances.
It can observe for instance that "*THESE* two balls fall at the
same speed in this vacuum."
Science can never observe that "*ALL* balls fall at the same
speed in all places, all times and all vacuums.'
Since science can never observe a generality, it can never prove
a generality.
It can however disprove a generality with one observation to the
contrary.
"These here two balls are not falling at the same speed in a
vacuum, so clearly its not true that all balls fall at the same speed in
a vacuum."
That produces proof, a perfect certainty, that the generality was
false.
Observations are observations of specific instances.
Theories are generalities, an effort to generalize all possible
observed instances.
If enough observations do not disprove the theory, one can attain a
state of trust in the theory and conclude that it is highly unlikely
that any observed instance will ever disprove the theory.
This does not prove the theory right, this is not a perfect
certainty that the theory is true.
At best it is a bet based on sensible trust and high probability
that the theory works well enough for practical purposes,
Direct observations however are always with certainty.
Theory and their generalitzations are always with no certainty.
Theories can also lead to further logically derived predictions
about other specific instances, which can then be verified with
certainty through more observation.
For example, one observes that two balls in a vacuum fall at the
same speed, so one generalizes a theory that all objects fall at the
same speed in a vacuum. From this one predicts that two different sized
cannon balls should fall at approximately the same speed from the Tower
of Pisa, even though it is not a vacuum. One can then do the experiment
and verify if the observation matches the prediction. If it does, the
theory gains further support.
At no time does any theory ever gain perfect certainty or proof.
Theories, being generalities, can only be disproven with certainty.
One must be careful not to confuse a scientific theory in the form
of a generality or 'law of nature' with theories concerning specific
instances that could or can not be observed.
For example, you come home one night and observe your door is open,
there are tracks on the floor, and money is missing from your drawer,
and finger prints are all over the place that don't belong to any of
your house hold people.
One can 'theorize' that someone entered and took the money, that's
a specific instance that is not observed and can not be, because it is
gone in the past.
Notice that even if Joe next door confesses to the crime, hands
back the money, and the prints match his, this does not prove with
perfect certainty that he did it. It may however fit the legal
definition of 'guilty beyond a reasonable doubt'.
This 'beyond reasonable doubt' is again based on trust we place in
basic unprovable theoretical generalities, to the effect that only one
person can have the finger prints, or upon our acceptance that the whole
scene was not set up by the CIA or even by God.
This last is refered to as the third party law (not to be confused
with LRH's third party law) which states that if B follows A, then it is
possible that A caused B directly or that C caused both A and B in such
a way as to make it look like A caused B.
Ultimately the only thing that can be proven certain are specific
observations, and the only thing that can be directly and specifically
observed is one's own conscious pictures and experience.
Everything else is a theory.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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