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RE INCARNATION AND THE HYPOCRISY WHIRLPOOL.
HYPOCRISY is GUILT in the NAME of LOVE.
PEOPLE who have DONE NO WRONG, WILL MAKE YOU NOT GUILTY even if you
ARE, BECAUSE they will see that the WRONG you did WAS to make someone
GUILTY. FOR WHICH YOU ARE NOT GUILTY.
Dig this or DIE.
If the JEWS Keep it Up,
They're gonna become CHRISTIANS.
If the CHRISTIANS Keep it Up,
They're gonna become NAZIS.
If the NAZIS Keep it Up,
They're gonna become SWEET OLD LADIES.
And if they're SWEET enough for long enough,
They're gonna become JEWS again.
Eventually ALL become MARBLES on the THETAN PLANE.
CONFESSION
I wouldn't be saying any of this except that
I am a CHRISTIAN well on my way to becoming a NAZI.
And the NAZI in me has looked over the BRINK into
SWEET OLD LADY HOOD and seen its DOOM
For EVER For REAL and For FREE.
The HYPOCRISY WHIRLPOOL is POWERED
by
LOVE
and
HIGH REGRET between HIGH FRIENDS
on
HIGH OPPOSITE SIDES.
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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SHITTING INSANITY
>> AD HOMINEM AND THE CLEAR-L CHARTER
>
> What shitting insanity. What kind of fucking loon believes this nonense?
Hi Mr. Troll,
Exactly what nonsense are you referring to?
The world is FULL of loons, you can feed them bread crumbs in the
park. What hole have you had your head in all these years that you do
not know this?
For clearing practitioners, beliefs are bets not convictions like
they are for Christians and other idiots.
One generally only bets if one has to, and one will only bet for
something if the odds are 51/49 or better.
When I was young, I would have bet that when you are dead, you are
dead, that consciousness was a process in the brain.
Now that I am old (60), I would bet that the brain is a process
in consciousness, and that in fact I have lived before and will
live again, but possibly not on Earth or even in this universe.
I do however WANT to come back to Earth, although the idea
terrifies the shit out of me, to work on one of my long term goals, a
star drive.
Science of course always rules where it can, the mere word of a
'Book' or a socially accepted Authority on the matter carry no weight.
And certainly the words of New Age Crystal Gazers are beyond
worthless, they can believe in instantaneous telepathy across
the universe all they want, but that doesn't change certain
facts that might mitigate against it, namely special relativity.
The speed of light is the speed of CAUSE in this universe, if
someone on Alpha Centauri finds out about a war on Earth before the
required 4 years for the data to get there, it might just destroy the
entire universe, the grid lines in the holodeck might start appearing
everywhere.
Relativity teaches us that this universe is not held together
by the orderliness of where and when, but it is held together
by the orderliness of the progression of CAUSE.
If one messes with that order, that exact progression, the entire
underpinnings of the universe fail, and it comes apart. The dreamers
wake up. And boy will they be mad.
But sometimes one is also betting that existing science is in error
or short sighted or doesn't have all the facts or is stuck in a small
theory ball that needs to be revisted.
The entire history of science after all is a history of being wrong
:)
But science is capable of self correction, although sometimes only
after the bigger authorities die off.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I understand from your comments
that Earth is a lot further gone than I have imagined.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
but not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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SHITTING INSANITY
>> AD HOMINEM AND THE CLEAR-L CHARTER
>
> What shitting insanity. What kind of fucking loon believes this nonense?
Hi Mr. Troll,
Exactly what nonsense are you referring to?
The world is FULL of loons, you can feed them bread crumbs in the
park. What hole have you had your head in all these years that you do
not know this?
For clearing practitioners, beliefs are bets not convictions like
they are for Christians and other idiots.
One generally only bets if one has to, and one will only bet for
something if the odds are 51/49 or better.
When I was young, I would have bet that when you are dead, you are
dead, that consciousness was a process in the brain.
Now that I am old (60), I would bet that the brain is a process
in consciousness, and that in fact I have lived before and will
live again, but possibly not on Earth or even in this universe.
I do however WANT to come back to Earth, although the idea
terrifies the shit out of me, to work on one of my long term goals, a
star drive.
Science of course always rules where it can, the mere word of a
'Book' or a socially accepted Authority on the matter carry no weight.
And certainly the words of New Age Crystal Gazers are beyond
worthless, they can believe in instantaneous telepathy across
the universe all they want, but that doesn't change certain
facts that might mitigate against it, namely special relativity.
The speed of light is the speed of CAUSE in this universe, if
someone on Alpha Centauri finds out about a war on Earth before the
required 4 years for the data to get there, it might just destroy the
entire universe, the grid lines in the holodeck might start appearing
everywhere.
Relativity teaches us that this universe is not held together
by the orderliness of where and when, but it is held together
by the orderliness of the progression of CAUSE.
If one messes with that order, that exact progression, the entire
underpinnings of the universe fail, and it comes apart. The dreamers
wake up. And boy will they be mad.
But sometimes one is also betting that existing science is in error
or short sighted or doesn't have all the facts or is stuck in a small
theory ball that needs to be revisted.
The entire history of science after all is a history of being wrong
:)
But science is capable of self correction, although sometimes only
after the bigger authorities die off.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I understand from your comments
that Earth is a lot further gone than I have imagined.
Homer
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Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning,
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DISOWNERSHIP OF SELF
This is about Alan's article appended below.
Yah mon, the preclear has disowned him self at such a deep level
that he feels it would kill his body if he admitted it, and ruin his
willingness to live or BE forever more if he re-remembered it.
Most auditor's won't go near that stuff.
"How do you feel about your (eternal) future?"
"What's your self image look like?"
"Get the idea of a self image."
Eternal life is not something you get in the FUTURE, eternal life
is what you are living right now for a while. Then you snooze out in
eternality for a while, then you come back into kinetics again when you
want to. Then you snooze out, then you remanifest, all fair chosen
forever outside of time. Been doing it forever and will continue to do
it forever. It's what you want.
Being IN time 'forever' is hell forever, you don't want that.
But an infinite number of finite whiles in kinetic manifestation
with as much rest as you can stand in between fills your bill, now
doesn't it.
Ask someone why they came into this life, and if they say "Oh I
don't believe in that nonsense, you live once, you die once and that's
it bud!"
Well they are living now as a moment in a pending eternal death or
dying, not as a moment in an eternal life, one that has always been, and
will always be (outside of time).
They are a garden variety meatball or zombie zoner.
Think how dull their consciousness must be from thinking that way
for their whole life, no more goals, no more friends, no more learning,
no more accomplishments.
Somewhere around 60 they give up and watch foolball as their
highest level of 'entertainment', no use thinking about goals, not
enough time left to get anything done about them. And all the goals
they did follow in this life were just small enough to give hope they
might be accomplished in one life.
The eternal lifer on the other hand is big and bright with the
anxiety of so many options, so many things to do forever and ever amen,
he doesn't know where or how to start.
"What should I DO NOW!?"
So which is worse, fearing death forever, or fearing life forever?
Homer
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2016, Clearing Archive Roboposter wrote:
>
> ACW wrote:
>
>> Could the tech have been out and that is what put the ethics and
> admin. out?
>>
>> I came to this "crashing reality adjustment" in 1985, when I had 3
>> Independent Centers. Omaha, LA and Dallas.
>>
>> The Tech just was not working. I was forced to realize something was
> very
>> wrong. I had to re-inspect what I had based my training and experience
> on.
>> Possibly the hardest thing I have ever had to do.
>>
>> I could not continue as I was not delivering what I promised.
>
> Would you please elucidate on this in detail. What failures were
> you seeing, and with what processes.
>
> Thanks Homer
>
> ?THE TECH WAS JUST NOT WORKING?
>
> At that time in late 1985, I had approximately 200 to 300 clients on
> lines. 90% were ex-Scio.
>
> What was very different was they were not set up by my centers. They
> came in from outside at various points on the Grade Chart.
>
> Most came in for their next step. Many were OT III?s and NOT?s cases.
> These were usually the worse off cases. There were also many ?natural
> clears.?
>
> The sessions ?seemed? to go fairly well. The wins after session were OK.
> But not much changed in their life and livingness and in many cases
> things deteriorated.
>
> I came to the conclusion most of these former Scio?s were trained
> session ?fakers? and PR merchants.
>
> I have observed that success stories are far more revelatory than most
> other client information. Partially because you can observe the life
> increases or decreases in effectiveness almost immediately after a
> session. (Within a day or two.) More things going right. Unhandled long
> term problems magically resolving. Increases in responsibility, (job
> promotions.) Higher toned, etc. Their immediate prosperity, success and
> happiness in life should increase.
>
> Fake success stories immediately let?s you know you are processing a
> fake case.
>
> Fake cases are made by fake releases and invalidation of true release
> points. Fake attestations and missed actual attestations. Fake F/N?s and
> missed actual F/N?s. Fake passes and invalidation of competency. Fake
> case handlings and invalidation of actual case handlings. Fake states
> attained and true states invalidated.
>
> Fake cases are created because it is unsafe or too dangerous to tell the
> truth. If the processing environment is dangerous the client will tend
> to PR their way out of trouble.
>
> The client has been or is trapped in a no-win technical, ethical and
> administrative situation.
>
> The client wants to get off the charge, wants to become more honest, but
> knows if they tell the absolute truth: i.e. ?I?m not making any gains
> from this processing,? they could end up in ethics, or whatever. He or
> she runs the risk of being labeled a dissenter or worse an enemy of
> Scientology.
>
> This unsafe or too dangerous to tell the truth environment or situation
> produces a by-passed case phenomena.
>
> You possibly are saying to yourself that?s crazy. How could any self
> respecting client do that to themselves?
>
> Simple: THESE PC?s ARE NOT SELF RESPECTING.
>
> As almost any ?old timer? or master of the technology will tell you the
> first target of processing the client is to get them back in valence and
> at cause over themselves and their immediate life.
>
> This was basically what a ?Life Repair? produced. The optimum life
> repair put in the basics of life. It helped the client regain the
> knowledge and truth about who he really was, what he was doing or not
> doing and the actions needed to increase control and cause over their
> immediate life and dynamics.
>
> A good ?Life Repair? usually takes between 50 to 150 hours. It also
> includes doing basic TR?s and Upper Indoc type training.
>
> The long term success of a Mission, Org., or client could be said to
> depend totally on the quality of the ?Life Repair?s? it delivered.
> Because of the increase in the client and students cause and
> responsibility over their life would enable them to earn and afford more
> money, time and effort to invest in further training and processing.
> They could and would respect themselves enough to hold a position of
> more truth and make their life obey them.
>
> An effective ?Life Repair? would begin to restore the clients self
> respect and sovereignty back to them.
>
> What I was observing was: A MASSIVE TACIT SABOTAGE OF THE TECHNOLOGY!
>
> MORE TO COME.
>
> Alan
>
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> Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
> Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
> Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
> Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
> not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> (607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
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>
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DISOWNERSHIP OF SELF
This is about Alan's article appended below.
Yah mon, the preclear has disowned him self at such a deep level
that he feels it would kill his body if he admitted it, and ruin his
willingness to live or BE forever more if he re-remembered it.
Most auditor's won't go near that stuff.
"How do you feel about your (eternal) future?"
"What's your self image look like?"
"Get the idea of a self image."
Eternal life is not something you get in the FUTURE, eternal life
is what you are living right now for a while. Then you snooze out in
eternality for a while, then you come back into kinetics again when you
want to. Then you snooze out, then you remanifest, all fair chosen
forever outside of time. Been doing it forever and will continue to do
it forever. It's what you want.
Being IN time 'forever' is hell forever, you don't want that.
But an infinite number of finite whiles in kinetic manifestation
with as much rest as you can stand in between fills your bill, now
doesn't it.
Ask someone why they came into this life, and if they say "Oh I
don't believe in that nonsense, you live once, you die once and that's
it bud!"
Well they are living now as a moment in a pending eternal death or
dying, not as a moment in an eternal life, one that has always been, and
will always be (outside of time).
They are a garden variety meatball or zombie zoner.
Think how dull their consciousness must be from thinking that way
for their whole life, no more goals, no more friends, no more learning,
no more accomplishments.
Somewhere around 60 they give up and watch foolball as their
highest level of 'entertainment', no use thinking about goals, not
enough time left to get anything done about them. And all the goals
they did follow in this life were just small enough to give hope they
might be accomplished in one life.
The eternal lifer on the other hand is big and bright with the
anxiety of so many options, so many things to do forever and ever amen,
he doesn't know where or how to start.
"What should I DO NOW!?"
So which is worse, fearing death forever, or fearing life forever?
Homer
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2016, Clearing Archive Roboposter wrote:
>
> ACW wrote:
>
>> Could the tech have been out and that is what put the ethics and
> admin. out?
>>
>> I came to this "crashing reality adjustment" in 1985, when I had 3
>> Independent Centers. Omaha, LA and Dallas.
>>
>> The Tech just was not working. I was forced to realize something was
> very
>> wrong. I had to re-inspect what I had based my training and experience
> on.
>> Possibly the hardest thing I have ever had to do.
>>
>> I could not continue as I was not delivering what I promised.
>
> Would you please elucidate on this in detail. What failures were
> you seeing, and with what processes.
>
> Thanks Homer
>
> ?THE TECH WAS JUST NOT WORKING?
>
> At that time in late 1985, I had approximately 200 to 300 clients on
> lines. 90% were ex-Scio.
>
> What was very different was they were not set up by my centers. They
> came in from outside at various points on the Grade Chart.
>
> Most came in for their next step. Many were OT III?s and NOT?s cases.
> These were usually the worse off cases. There were also many ?natural
> clears.?
>
> The sessions ?seemed? to go fairly well. The wins after session were OK.
> But not much changed in their life and livingness and in many cases
> things deteriorated.
>
> I came to the conclusion most of these former Scio?s were trained
> session ?fakers? and PR merchants.
>
> I have observed that success stories are far more revelatory than most
> other client information. Partially because you can observe the life
> increases or decreases in effectiveness almost immediately after a
> session. (Within a day or two.) More things going right. Unhandled long
> term problems magically resolving. Increases in responsibility, (job
> promotions.) Higher toned, etc. Their immediate prosperity, success and
> happiness in life should increase.
>
> Fake success stories immediately let?s you know you are processing a
> fake case.
>
> Fake cases are made by fake releases and invalidation of true release
> points. Fake attestations and missed actual attestations. Fake F/N?s and
> missed actual F/N?s. Fake passes and invalidation of competency. Fake
> case handlings and invalidation of actual case handlings. Fake states
> attained and true states invalidated.
>
> Fake cases are created because it is unsafe or too dangerous to tell the
> truth. If the processing environment is dangerous the client will tend
> to PR their way out of trouble.
>
> The client has been or is trapped in a no-win technical, ethical and
> administrative situation.
>
> The client wants to get off the charge, wants to become more honest, but
> knows if they tell the absolute truth: i.e. ?I?m not making any gains
> from this processing,? they could end up in ethics, or whatever. He or
> she runs the risk of being labeled a dissenter or worse an enemy of
> Scientology.
>
> This unsafe or too dangerous to tell the truth environment or situation
> produces a by-passed case phenomena.
>
> You possibly are saying to yourself that?s crazy. How could any self
> respecting client do that to themselves?
>
> Simple: THESE PC?s ARE NOT SELF RESPECTING.
>
> As almost any ?old timer? or master of the technology will tell you the
> first target of processing the client is to get them back in valence and
> at cause over themselves and their immediate life.
>
> This was basically what a ?Life Repair? produced. The optimum life
> repair put in the basics of life. It helped the client regain the
> knowledge and truth about who he really was, what he was doing or not
> doing and the actions needed to increase control and cause over their
> immediate life and dynamics.
>
> A good ?Life Repair? usually takes between 50 to 150 hours. It also
> includes doing basic TR?s and Upper Indoc type training.
>
> The long term success of a Mission, Org., or client could be said to
> depend totally on the quality of the ?Life Repair?s? it delivered.
> Because of the increase in the client and students cause and
> responsibility over their life would enable them to earn and afford more
> money, time and effort to invest in further training and processing.
> They could and would respect themselves enough to hold a position of
> more truth and make their life obey them.
>
> An effective ?Life Repair? would begin to restore the clients self
> respect and sovereignty back to them.
>
> What I was observing was: A MASSIVE TACIT SABOTAGE OF THE TECHNOLOGY!
>
> MORE TO COME.
>
> Alan
>
> ================ http://www.clearing.org ====================
> Tue Jan 19 06:06:02 EST 2016
> ftp://ftp.lightlink.com/pub/archive/acw/acw52.memo
> Send mail to archive@lightlink.com saying help
> ================== http://www.lightlink.com/theproof ===================
> Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
> Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
> Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
> Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
> not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Homer Wilson Smith Clean Air, Clear Water, Art Matrix - Lightlink
> (607) 277-0959 A Green Earth, and Peace, Internet, Ithaca NY
> homer@lightlink.com Is that too much to ask? http://www.lightlink.com
>
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PERFECT CERTAINTIES vs BETS
Just as there are perfect certainties that can not be wrong, just so
there are statements that can not be perfect certainties and can never be
perfect certainties.
Once one attains awareness of perfect certainties and becomes facile
spotting them or rejecting them, one can then easily spot when a statement
can never be a perfect certainty, and thus safely relegate it to a mere
probability or bet.
Thus one can no longer make the error of being certain of something
and finding out later that one was wrong as everything one holds true is
either a perfect certainty that can not be wrong, or a probabilistic bet
that can not be a perfect certainty.
This is called personal integrity.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
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PERFECT CERTAINTIES vs BETS
Just as there are perfect certainties that can not be wrong, just so
there are statements that can not be perfect certainties and can never be
perfect certainties.
Once one attains awareness of perfect certainties and becomes facile
spotting them or rejecting them, one can then easily spot when a statement
can never be a perfect certainty, and thus safely relegate it to a mere
probability or bet.
Thus one can no longer make the error of being certain of something
and finding out later that one was wrong as everything one holds true is
either a perfect certainty that can not be wrong, or a probabilistic bet
that can not be a perfect certainty.
This is called personal integrity.
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ARCX WITH SOURCE
An ARCX is a sundering, lowering or break in affinity, reality
(agreement with) and communication with something or somebody, including
self, others, work, life, action, God and the entire Cosmic All.
It is common practice when a pc doesn't respond to standard tech to
blame it on service facs. (The facsimile memory he is using to service
himself by implementing the advantage of being disadvantaged.)
But all one had to do is audit the service fac, so this is a false
why.
Service facs are not the end all or be all of case.
Service facs are very specific computations related to GPM
structures, in particular the present time truncated GPM that the pc is
probably dramatizing.
They give the justification for taking one side against the other,
and they give the justification for sashaying down the GPM structure
back and forth taking on opposites until they are at the bottom opposing
what they were at the top.
Service facs also generally involve making OTHERS wrong.
The ARCX with source may or may not a GPM phenomenon, and does not
involve other people, although it's inception may not be before
involvement with others.
It has to do with the original break in sovereignty in which the
pc, who originally thought he was responsible through choice for his
condition, suddenly finds himself faced with something he feels he
didn't choose.
Whether he chose this apparency or not is open to question, and is
the question that is most bothering the pc.
He feels he is screwed either way.
Since doubt is self casting, the more he wonders at the possibility
that sovereignty was an illusion all along, the more evidence he sees
for this position and the lower tone he will go.
He knows he can't vanish what he didn't make, didn't, shouldn't,
wouldn't and couldn't make.
This leaves him stuck with a persistence forever, which is a hell
forever. Thus he becomes a Christian.
Ask a Christian to list all the things he had nothing
to do with, and wouldn't agree to having them created if he could
have avoided it.
Eventually he becomes a marble rolling around the drain to hell.
Now lot's of people will tell you they are clear, they are OT, they
are in control of their destiny.
Or they will tell you, it doesn't bother them that something else
is in control of their destiny.
"Jesus, we gotta have some surprises around here you know!"
Go word clear very carefully "Whistling past the graveyard."
Your efforts to actually go OT and regain your absolute sovereignty
again disturbs their comfortably numb condition of forgetting that they
are a sinking ship.
They may be sinking slowly, so it may take a million years, but
sinking they are.
"How far into your future can you see?"
"Is your future secure?"
"Are you afraid of finding out?"
"Are you afraid of not finding out?"
"Spot how you feel about your choice in any matter".
"Able to leave or not any game at will?"
"NO Problem?"
E/P ARC broken with self and source and knows it.
No longer sweetness and light theetie wheetie.
Homer
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ARCX WITH SOURCE
An ARCX is a sundering, lowering or break in affinity, reality
(agreement with) and communication with something or somebody, including
self, others, work, life, action, God and the entire Cosmic All.
It is common practice when a pc doesn't respond to standard tech to
blame it on service facs. (The facsimile memory he is using to service
himself by implementing the advantage of being disadvantaged.)
But all one had to do is audit the service fac, so this is a false
why.
Service facs are not the end all or be all of case.
Service facs are very specific computations related to GPM
structures, in particular the present time truncated GPM that the pc is
probably dramatizing.
They give the justification for taking one side against the other,
and they give the justification for sashaying down the GPM structure
back and forth taking on opposites until they are at the bottom opposing
what they were at the top.
Service facs also generally involve making OTHERS wrong.
The ARCX with source may or may not a GPM phenomenon, and does not
involve other people, although it's inception may not be before
involvement with others.
It has to do with the original break in sovereignty in which the
pc, who originally thought he was responsible through choice for his
condition, suddenly finds himself faced with something he feels he
didn't choose.
Whether he chose this apparency or not is open to question, and is
the question that is most bothering the pc.
He feels he is screwed either way.
Since doubt is self casting, the more he wonders at the possibility
that sovereignty was an illusion all along, the more evidence he sees
for this position and the lower tone he will go.
He knows he can't vanish what he didn't make, didn't, shouldn't,
wouldn't and couldn't make.
This leaves him stuck with a persistence forever, which is a hell
forever. Thus he becomes a Christian.
Ask a Christian to list all the things he had nothing
to do with, and wouldn't agree to having them created if he could
have avoided it.
Eventually he becomes a marble rolling around the drain to hell.
Now lot's of people will tell you they are clear, they are OT, they
are in control of their destiny.
Or they will tell you, it doesn't bother them that something else
is in control of their destiny.
"Jesus, we gotta have some surprises around here you know!"
Go word clear very carefully "Whistling past the graveyard."
Your efforts to actually go OT and regain your absolute sovereignty
again disturbs their comfortably numb condition of forgetting that they
are a sinking ship.
They may be sinking slowly, so it may take a million years, but
sinking they are.
"How far into your future can you see?"
"Is your future secure?"
"Are you afraid of finding out?"
"Are you afraid of not finding out?"
"Spot how you feel about your choice in any matter".
"Able to leave or not any game at will?"
"NO Problem?"
E/P ARC broken with self and source and knows it.
No longer sweetness and light theetie wheetie.
Homer
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Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning but
Not by Being an Effect, and not across a Distance.
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UNAUDITABILITY
ACT - 94
7 October 1996
Copyright (C) 1996 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
LaMont tells me there is no such thing as an Unauditability.
Let us hope he is right.
Be that as it may, the following is presented for your reading
pleasure.
The way to vanish any mass or condition is to generally replicate
the efforts that went into its creation with full responsibility and
Sovereignty.
Make it once, it persists, make it again it releases.
This not quite accurate but we can describe it this way.
We work from two major premises in the devising of any auditing
strategy.
Premise I. Conception is both necessary and suffcient to create
any mass or condition, which is then created in the mere conceiving of
it.
Premise II. All conceivings and thus all creations are self
vanishing, thus anything that is persisting in time is being repeatedly
conceived and thus repeatedly created again and again in a new unit of
time.
The thetan has ways of getting himself conceiving compulsively,
not knowing that he is doing it, completely unable to stop doing it.
There are many 'tricks' the thetan can do to create an unwanted
persistence, one of which is simply postulate MORE that one needs
to create something ELSE to stop the creation or existence of
and unwanted persistence.
Creating RAID to get rid of ants for example and then creating
on going persisting action running around and spraying them.
So an unknowing but persisting conception ants is handled by
a knowing continuously postulate and thus 'persisting' second
conception, action.
We call this action set performed after the fact of the creation of
an unwanted persisting condition, the preclear's RAID.
It's always a knowingly and willing creation of something MORE
to get rid or handle an earlier unknowingly created unwaned condition.
The sequence goes like this.
CREATION -> COVERUP WHO DID IT -> UNWANTED -> RAID ACTION ->
PERSISTENCE.
So beyond all that, we can say that the way to get rid of any mass
or condition is to cease creating it.
Thus we get the preclear to conceive knowingly what he is already
conceiving unknowingly without knowing it,
Get the idea of having no idea you are getting the idea of an
unwanted persistence, and yet are in fact doing so, which you see with a
little application of intelligence and perspicacity, minus any vested
interest in staying a victim.
And once he can conceive and thus create his condition in its
entirety, without all the added significance of how to get rid of it, or
what it's good for, he can let off on the conception of it by
unconceiving it, and thus the mass or condition will self vanish
at the moment of unconception.
He won't even have the conception that all the above stuff even
went on.
An Unauditability is a mass or condition that will not release even
when it is "properly" replicated.
Theoretically of course this is absurd, however the fact is that a
thetan can WISH for a mass or condition to be unauditable and he can put
much effort, intention and energy into making it unauditable.
that it be unauditable and the extra efforts he put into it to make sure
it is.
That is the "what it is good for" but,
Unless this is spotted, the mass or condition will in fact become
unauditable because the thetan is failing to replicate his own desire
Taking responsibility back from the world is a tough act, a lot of
sadness about wasted time, but a lot of laughter in the end, love is so
great it is beyond our conception. That thought is part of why we don't
have as much love as we want, its too big to fire up.
Get the idea if a condition.
Get the idea off what it could be good for.
Get the idea off what it could be bad for.
Run it causatively meaning don't make the preclear spot existing
conditions, having him CREATE conditions and the purposes they might be good
for and the downsides to counter the benefits.
He will run the conditions and purposes that he has anyhow, but the
newly created ones in between will raise his havingness, as he will
eventually start out creating the conditions he is stuck in.
If fact once the preclear sees with great clarity that he is
keeping the unwanted condition around because it serves a dire purpose,
he will chill out on the whole thing.
At which point it will starting coming to the surface on its own,
at which point the preclear will huriedly go back to making sure it
doesn't. But only for a while this time, not forever like the last
time.
You take the lid off the pressurized kettle one little bit at a
time, and sit on it tightly until the next.
There are 5 primary factors to any unauditability.
They are, WHY, HOW, WHEN, WHERE, WHO, and WHAT, in that order of
auditing importance.
At the bottom of the unauditability will be the WHO or WHAT that
the being is rendering unauditable.
Above that will be a WHEN (including HOW LONG) and a WHERE that the
incident took place, including a when and a where the rendering of it
unauditable took place.
There will be HOW he rendered the incident eternally unauditable
FOREVER (in and out of time!) These are the exact efforts, forces,
conceptions and postulates that he made that produced the masses and
conditions that he feels will not release no matter how much he
replicates creating them, mostly because he is missing how they are SAFE
SOLUTION.
There will be WHY the thetan wanted to render it unauditable. That
means he had a reason that he wanted to never resolve this thing or
release it, a reason to make communication with it and replication of it
INFINITELY and ETERNALLY ineffective.
The HOW is still going on in present time, and the WHY is always
about the future. He won't know the WHEN, WHERE, WHO or WHAT any more
because they have been rendered unauditable. That means ANY question
you ask of them will return an I DON'T KNOW or NOTHING THERE.
However he will be able to get some vague sense of WHY he rendered
the scene unauditable as he is still doing it, and he will certainly be
able to get the HOW he is continuing to render it unauditable in present
time, particularly on the meter, stuck falls, Dirty Needles, Rock Slams
etc.
Those reads result when the preclear readjusts himself on the lid
of his powder keg, or pressure cooker, to make sure it doesn't blow
before he let's some of it out down the road a bit.
It's a convulsive shut down which bars entrance to the incident, he
will have to 'be there' when it happens to begin noticing it at all,
otherwise it happens all day long periodically but escapes him entirely.
He will first have to go through a stage where he notices it only
AFTER it happens, just after, and he says 'I saw that!'. Then he will
be start being there WHEN it is happening, then BEFORE. At that point
he can divert the convulsion and start to run it out and its damage.
The needle will come alive with stops and falls when he comes
anywhere near the efforts to render an incident unauditable.
The needle is reading on WHY AND HOW, *NOT* on WHEN, WHERE, WHO or
WHAT!
The WHY and HOW are in the future and present time, the WHEN,
WHERE, WHO and WHAT are in the past.
The WHY will have something to do with Infinities, Eternalities and
the Future, particularly FOREVERS and NEVERS.
That's a big statement, dig it and don't leave it.
The Structure of the mass or condition that is unauditable will be
a standard Grades Stack. A Grades Stack consists of the following,
listed from earliest to latest:
Goal - No Goal
Communication - No Communication
Problem - No Problem
Overt - No Overt
Withhold - No Withhold
Upset - No Upset
CO Excused Withhold - No Co Excused Withhold
Make Wrong - No Make Wrong
Power - No Power
Auditability - No Auditability
He will start off with a Goal opposed by an Opp Goal, leading to an
intention to produce a No Goal of his own goal.
He will fall down in Communication and denial of Communication,
This will get him into Problems and denial of Problems, which will lead
to Overts and denial of Overts, which will get him into Withholds and
denial of Withholds. This ends him up in major Motivators and Upsets
which stick to him like glue due to Justification and Restraint on the
earlier items on the Grades Stack.
The next level down is Co Excused Withholds.
A Co Excused Withhold is a withheld Overt/Motivator *PAIR*.
It is an IDENTITY <-> OPP IDENTITY lockup.
He receives a serious Motivator or Upset in present time, and it
restimulates an earlier Overt or Upset he caused to someone else in the
far distant past when he was being then an identity similar to the
perpetrator in present time.
His mother tries to kill him in this life as a son, which restims a
time in the past when he as a mother, tried to kill her son.
This is a problem between WHATs not WHOs.
His mother hurts him in this life time, this has nothing to do with
anything he might have done to his mother in this life time, or to the
being who is his present time mother in a previous life or hers.
It has to do with when he as a son has been hurt by a mother in the
present, which locks up with he as a mother hurt a son in the past.
He has been hurt EGREGIOUSLY in present time and he does not
complain about it at all. His computation is:
"If you forgive me for what I did then, and I will forgive you for
what you did to me just now."
Both become better left unsaid.
Before this the Overt was subconsciously queued for confession.
Now, he is not sure he is interested in that any more.
It is called a CO-EXCUSED WITHHOLD because HE is excusing his
present mother and withholding what his mother did to him now, and
excusing himself for what he did as a mother in the past, and
withholding it just as hard.
HE HAS TWO WITHHOLDS.
1.) What his mother did to him, its a witheld motivator
2.) What he did as a mother long ago, its a witheld overt.
His present time mother hasn't a clue what is going on.
HE WON'T TELL HER even if he could wrangle an apology out of her.
This results in BOTH earlier Overt and later Motivator sinking into
forgetfulness and oblivion.
The preclear's SILENCE on both the earlier OVERT and present time
MOTIVATOR cause both to sink like a stone to the sea of oblivion.
Oblivion is silent and quiet as hell.
An accumulating tar pit of all the things never said about overts
and motivators between lovers during all of time since the beginning of
this Cosmic Clown show.
Below this the person will get into defense and offense, commonly
called Make Wrong, and end up in an astounding condition of No Power.
The result of all this is a No Auditability.
THE UNAUDITABILITY RUNDOWN
One approaches this by educating the pc in the above material until
he has a good grasp of it and his good indicators including hope come in.
Then you run,
"Is there an unauditability?"
until the pc can spot one with good reality. You will probably get
VGI's and a good blow down item on the meter when he finds one.
Remember he is not going to know what the unauditability is about,
so don't expect him to get an incident at this stage, he will merely
have spotted a significant area of absolute Non Sovereignty, usually a
mass or unwanted condition.
Then run gently without force,
"WHY are you making this unauditable"
"HOW are you making this unauditable"
until he gets a release.
If you your pc gets jammed and can't find answers to WHY AND HOW,
ask gently:
"Is that because this is an unauditability?"
((This is old and dangerous technology.
Run instead, in all cases
"Get the idea of making something unauditable" etc.
Unauditabilities do not respond to question asking of any kind.
Question asking will just make your preclear spit at you.))
If he gets a release end off.
He may still not be able to spot WHEN, WHERE, WHO or WHAT, but he
will have spotted that there is a WHY and a HOW, and he will begin the
process of reevaluating the WHY to his long term benefit, and in the
meantime he won't be doing the HOW quite so hard.
Homer
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UNAUDITABILITY
ACT - 94
7 October 1996
Copyright (C) 1996 Homer Wilson Smith
Redistribution rights granted for non commercial purposes.
LaMont tells me there is no such thing as an Unauditability.
Let us hope he is right.
Be that as it may, the following is presented for your reading
pleasure.
The way to vanish any mass or condition is to generally replicate
the efforts that went into its creation with full responsibility and
Sovereignty.
Make it once, it persists, make it again it releases.
This not quite accurate but we can describe it this way.
We work from two major premises in the devising of any auditing
strategy.
Premise I. Conception is both necessary and suffcient to create
any mass or condition, which is then created in the mere conceiving of
it.
Premise II. All conceivings and thus all creations are self
vanishing, thus anything that is persisting in time is being repeatedly
conceived and thus repeatedly created again and again in a new unit of
time.
The thetan has ways of getting himself conceiving compulsively,
not knowing that he is doing it, completely unable to stop doing it.
There are many 'tricks' the thetan can do to create an unwanted
persistence, one of which is simply postulate MORE that one needs
to create something ELSE to stop the creation or existence of
and unwanted persistence.
Creating RAID to get rid of ants for example and then creating
on going persisting action running around and spraying them.
So an unknowing but persisting conception ants is handled by
a knowing continuously postulate and thus 'persisting' second
conception, action.
We call this action set performed after the fact of the creation of
an unwanted persisting condition, the preclear's RAID.
It's always a knowingly and willing creation of something MORE
to get rid or handle an earlier unknowingly created unwaned condition.
The sequence goes like this.
CREATION -> COVERUP WHO DID IT -> UNWANTED -> RAID ACTION ->
PERSISTENCE.
So beyond all that, we can say that the way to get rid of any mass
or condition is to cease creating it.
Thus we get the preclear to conceive knowingly what he is already
conceiving unknowingly without knowing it,
Get the idea of having no idea you are getting the idea of an
unwanted persistence, and yet are in fact doing so, which you see with a
little application of intelligence and perspicacity, minus any vested
interest in staying a victim.
And once he can conceive and thus create his condition in its
entirety, without all the added significance of how to get rid of it, or
what it's good for, he can let off on the conception of it by
unconceiving it, and thus the mass or condition will self vanish
at the moment of unconception.
He won't even have the conception that all the above stuff even
went on.
An Unauditability is a mass or condition that will not release even
when it is "properly" replicated.
Theoretically of course this is absurd, however the fact is that a
thetan can WISH for a mass or condition to be unauditable and he can put
much effort, intention and energy into making it unauditable.
that it be unauditable and the extra efforts he put into it to make sure
it is.
That is the "what it is good for" but,
Unless this is spotted, the mass or condition will in fact become
unauditable because the thetan is failing to replicate his own desire
Taking responsibility back from the world is a tough act, a lot of
sadness about wasted time, but a lot of laughter in the end, love is so
great it is beyond our conception. That thought is part of why we don't
have as much love as we want, its too big to fire up.
Get the idea if a condition.
Get the idea off what it could be good for.
Get the idea off what it could be bad for.
Run it causatively meaning don't make the preclear spot existing
conditions, having him CREATE conditions and the purposes they might be good
for and the downsides to counter the benefits.
He will run the conditions and purposes that he has anyhow, but the
newly created ones in between will raise his havingness, as he will
eventually start out creating the conditions he is stuck in.
If fact once the preclear sees with great clarity that he is
keeping the unwanted condition around because it serves a dire purpose,
he will chill out on the whole thing.
At which point it will starting coming to the surface on its own,
at which point the preclear will huriedly go back to making sure it
doesn't. But only for a while this time, not forever like the last
time.
You take the lid off the pressurized kettle one little bit at a
time, and sit on it tightly until the next.
There are 5 primary factors to any unauditability.
They are, WHY, HOW, WHEN, WHERE, WHO, and WHAT, in that order of
auditing importance.
At the bottom of the unauditability will be the WHO or WHAT that
the being is rendering unauditable.
Above that will be a WHEN (including HOW LONG) and a WHERE that the
incident took place, including a when and a where the rendering of it
unauditable took place.
There will be HOW he rendered the incident eternally unauditable
FOREVER (in and out of time!) These are the exact efforts, forces,
conceptions and postulates that he made that produced the masses and
conditions that he feels will not release no matter how much he
replicates creating them, mostly because he is missing how they are SAFE
SOLUTION.
There will be WHY the thetan wanted to render it unauditable. That
means he had a reason that he wanted to never resolve this thing or
release it, a reason to make communication with it and replication of it
INFINITELY and ETERNALLY ineffective.
The HOW is still going on in present time, and the WHY is always
about the future. He won't know the WHEN, WHERE, WHO or WHAT any more
because they have been rendered unauditable. That means ANY question
you ask of them will return an I DON'T KNOW or NOTHING THERE.
However he will be able to get some vague sense of WHY he rendered
the scene unauditable as he is still doing it, and he will certainly be
able to get the HOW he is continuing to render it unauditable in present
time, particularly on the meter, stuck falls, Dirty Needles, Rock Slams
etc.
Those reads result when the preclear readjusts himself on the lid
of his powder keg, or pressure cooker, to make sure it doesn't blow
before he let's some of it out down the road a bit.
It's a convulsive shut down which bars entrance to the incident, he
will have to 'be there' when it happens to begin noticing it at all,
otherwise it happens all day long periodically but escapes him entirely.
He will first have to go through a stage where he notices it only
AFTER it happens, just after, and he says 'I saw that!'. Then he will
be start being there WHEN it is happening, then BEFORE. At that point
he can divert the convulsion and start to run it out and its damage.
The needle will come alive with stops and falls when he comes
anywhere near the efforts to render an incident unauditable.
The needle is reading on WHY AND HOW, *NOT* on WHEN, WHERE, WHO or
WHAT!
The WHY and HOW are in the future and present time, the WHEN,
WHERE, WHO and WHAT are in the past.
The WHY will have something to do with Infinities, Eternalities and
the Future, particularly FOREVERS and NEVERS.
That's a big statement, dig it and don't leave it.
The Structure of the mass or condition that is unauditable will be
a standard Grades Stack. A Grades Stack consists of the following,
listed from earliest to latest:
Goal - No Goal
Communication - No Communication
Problem - No Problem
Overt - No Overt
Withhold - No Withhold
Upset - No Upset
CO Excused Withhold - No Co Excused Withhold
Make Wrong - No Make Wrong
Power - No Power
Auditability - No Auditability
He will start off with a Goal opposed by an Opp Goal, leading to an
intention to produce a No Goal of his own goal.
He will fall down in Communication and denial of Communication,
This will get him into Problems and denial of Problems, which will lead
to Overts and denial of Overts, which will get him into Withholds and
denial of Withholds. This ends him up in major Motivators and Upsets
which stick to him like glue due to Justification and Restraint on the
earlier items on the Grades Stack.
The next level down is Co Excused Withholds.
A Co Excused Withhold is a withheld Overt/Motivator *PAIR*.
It is an IDENTITY <-> OPP IDENTITY lockup.
He receives a serious Motivator or Upset in present time, and it
restimulates an earlier Overt or Upset he caused to someone else in the
far distant past when he was being then an identity similar to the
perpetrator in present time.
His mother tries to kill him in this life as a son, which restims a
time in the past when he as a mother, tried to kill her son.
This is a problem between WHATs not WHOs.
His mother hurts him in this life time, this has nothing to do with
anything he might have done to his mother in this life time, or to the
being who is his present time mother in a previous life or hers.
It has to do with when he as a son has been hurt by a mother in the
present, which locks up with he as a mother hurt a son in the past.
He has been hurt EGREGIOUSLY in present time and he does not
complain about it at all. His computation is:
"If you forgive me for what I did then, and I will forgive you for
what you did to me just now."
Both become better left unsaid.
Before this the Overt was subconsciously queued for confession.
Now, he is not sure he is interested in that any more.
It is called a CO-EXCUSED WITHHOLD because HE is excusing his
present mother and withholding what his mother did to him now, and
excusing himself for what he did as a mother in the past, and
withholding it just as hard.
HE HAS TWO WITHHOLDS.
1.) What his mother did to him, its a witheld motivator
2.) What he did as a mother long ago, its a witheld overt.
His present time mother hasn't a clue what is going on.
HE WON'T TELL HER even if he could wrangle an apology out of her.
This results in BOTH earlier Overt and later Motivator sinking into
forgetfulness and oblivion.
The preclear's SILENCE on both the earlier OVERT and present time
MOTIVATOR cause both to sink like a stone to the sea of oblivion.
Oblivion is silent and quiet as hell.
An accumulating tar pit of all the things never said about overts
and motivators between lovers during all of time since the beginning of
this Cosmic Clown show.
Below this the person will get into defense and offense, commonly
called Make Wrong, and end up in an astounding condition of No Power.
The result of all this is a No Auditability.
THE UNAUDITABILITY RUNDOWN
One approaches this by educating the pc in the above material until
he has a good grasp of it and his good indicators including hope come in.
Then you run,
"Is there an unauditability?"
until the pc can spot one with good reality. You will probably get
VGI's and a good blow down item on the meter when he finds one.
Remember he is not going to know what the unauditability is about,
so don't expect him to get an incident at this stage, he will merely
have spotted a significant area of absolute Non Sovereignty, usually a
mass or unwanted condition.
Then run gently without force,
"WHY are you making this unauditable"
"HOW are you making this unauditable"
until he gets a release.
If you your pc gets jammed and can't find answers to WHY AND HOW,
ask gently:
"Is that because this is an unauditability?"
((This is old and dangerous technology.
Run instead, in all cases
"Get the idea of making something unauditable" etc.
Unauditabilities do not respond to question asking of any kind.
Question asking will just make your preclear spit at you.))
If he gets a release end off.
He may still not be able to spot WHEN, WHERE, WHO or WHAT, but he
will have spotted that there is a WHY and a HOW, and he will begin the
process of reevaluating the WHY to his long term benefit, and in the
meantime he won't be doing the HOW quite so hard.
Homer
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PORK
Pip said about adore203.memo being covert anti-semitism:
> Beats the heck out of me too - I read it several times. There's a stuck
> 7 somewhere. Maybe saying something that someone or some group doesn't
> agree with makes you anti-them and whatever
> race-politics-religion-food_group they identify with.
Well the strange thing is the two times now that someone has
accused me of overt or covert anti semitism, it was a non Jew.
Boy do they have overts against Jews! The joke is, it isn't the
*JEWS* who are trying to elect themselves a protected speciies.
Usually my writings are anti everyone, to call that anti semitic,
when I am raking everyone over the coals, is wild hypocrisy, its ok to
take the Christians to task for their nonsense but not the Jews?
Anyhow the posting was probably born in opposition to the God is
Good spew of Carol Willis, and was a restatement of LRH's view that the
Devil is God after he made the universe, and Adore's statement that the
snake was God incarnation.
The snake however is the first part of the Bible, which is probably
more Jewish than Christian, but frankly of all the mature Jews I have
known, they are either Buddhists or atheists.
Also my opinion is Jews have done more for Western Culture than all
the Christians put together with maybe a few exceptions.
Well maybe they are nose to nose.
Anyhow its not the person I attack but the beliefs, and since Jews
tend to not have any beliefs, there isn't much to attack.
I just wish their women wouldn't be so kosher about who they let
stick their pork in them.
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PORK
Pip said about adore203.memo being covert anti-semitism:
> Beats the heck out of me too - I read it several times. There's a stuck
> 7 somewhere. Maybe saying something that someone or some group doesn't
> agree with makes you anti-them and whatever
> race-politics-religion-food_group they identify with.
Well the strange thing is the two times now that someone has
accused me of overt or covert anti semitism, it was a non Jew.
Boy do they have overts against Jews! The joke is, it isn't the
*JEWS* who are trying to elect themselves a protected speciies.
Usually my writings are anti everyone, to call that anti semitic,
when I am raking everyone over the coals, is wild hypocrisy, its ok to
take the Christians to task for their nonsense but not the Jews?
Anyhow the posting was probably born in opposition to the God is
Good spew of Carol Willis, and was a restatement of LRH's view that the
Devil is God after he made the universe, and Adore's statement that the
snake was God incarnation.
The snake however is the first part of the Bible, which is probably
more Jewish than Christian, but frankly of all the mature Jews I have
known, they are either Buddhists or atheists.
Also my opinion is Jews have done more for Western Culture than all
the Christians put together with maybe a few exceptions.
Well maybe they are nose to nose.
Anyhow its not the person I attack but the beliefs, and since Jews
tend to not have any beliefs, there isn't much to attack.
I just wish their women wouldn't be so kosher about who they let
stick their pork in them.
Homer
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