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CB Willis (cbwillis@adore.lightlink.com) wrote:
>Homer Wilson Smith (homer@lightlink.com) wrote:
>> Now I knew I could not prove I was not dreaming (sleep dreaming)
>>at any single moment of time, but it didn't seem reasonable that the
>>world it self was a dream, until I saw that *SPACE* was an illusion.
>>Once I saw that, then it all made sense and shortly thereafter, along
>>with a lot of visionary experiences, The Proof came forward.
>How did it occur to you that space is an illusion, what do you mean by
>that, what else can you say about this?
Well I had had lots of dreams where I thought I was awake, only
to find out I was dreaming when I woke up. Then I woke up again.
Then again. I did that 7 levels once.
When I am in dreams, I often think "hey is this a dream?" and
conclude no. Then I 'wake up' and go "OH Christ it was a dream
what a dupe, thank God I am awake now." Then I wake up again.
Other times I know I am dreaming cuz I can remember what the
waking state is like. But I have a number of waking states that all
seem valid when I am in them, even though they are very different, and
if I get into one of those, I conclude I am wake even though I am
still sleeping.
Since I lucid dream almost every night, these kinds of
shenanigans go on all the time. After a while the whole
idea of 'is this the real waking state' becomes meaningless,
as what is going on in front of me is just as real as any other
state, girls are warm and sexy, bugs bite, demons are impossible
to fend off you name it.
So it became clear to me that conscious pictures of space, time,
matter and energy were not in themselves evidence of an external
material universe.
I mean I have a dream of a piano, and I sit down and play it,
then poof I wake up, what happened to the piano in my dream?
The goof I mean meatballs would claim it was just a mental image
picture, a referent to nothing actual. Just as we can mockup a piano
while we are awake, there is no MATERIAL creation during such a
mockup, it is 'in our minds eye only'.
I can see all the pianos I want 'out there' in my minds eye, but
no scientific instrument would ever pick up actual matter in the
physical universe out there, because the image in my mind's eye is not
the same as a real piano out there and can not create such, in their
view.
The Scientists know this, they know we only see our own conscious
color forms and then use them as a symbolic referent to the implied
external universe. They know that the external universe is only a
theory to explain the consistency of our conscious experiences.
But I saw I had no evidence of the 'actual' piano even when I was
awake, and that in fact I couldn't actually prove to myself I was
awake and not in a sleep dream.
The theory I was playing with was that mental mockups were being
projected into space even while awake and thus the world was a dream
state just like dreaming, except there were other co dreams also
projecting into the same space I was.
But I still considered the SPACE real, because I couldn't
concieve of a zero dimensional actuality. So existence had to have at
least 3 or more dimensions, so space had to be actual even if the
pictures of MEST projected into it were 'mere' mental mockups.
When I finally saw that actuality was zero dimensional and that
space was a holographic projection also, then it all became possible
to me.
Then I saw that all beings were on the same 'spot', each looking
'outward' into their own version of virtual reality, but since we were
all connected 'inside between us', we could create links amongst those
external virtual objects so that when I moved my version of the ball,
your version moved also.
That way we could create the illusion of space between us and
that there was in fact only one real ball that we were both looking
at from different viewpoints.
Hubbard said somewhere long since erased from his writings
"People think they are looking at the same object from different
viewpoints, when in fact they are looking at different objects from
the same viewpoint.
Its like a bunch of players sitting at their play stations
playing star trek over the net. The Enterprise you see and the one I
see are two different projections on two different screens, yours and
mine, but the central computer (Source) that links the two of us
allows us to pretend that we are both looking at the same space ship.
When it blows up, it blows up for both of us. That's called a link.
The difference here is that all the players are facets of the One
Great I Am which exists in a zero dimensional scalar space/time so
there is no dimensional separation between players at all. The
dimensional separation that exists, exists only in their virtual view
screens into the virtual world of dimensional space/time.
Then I spent a long time studying all the 'evidence' and reasons
why I had bought into the idea that the alleged external universe was
actual. I saw one by one that all my reasons were false, false
'certainties' so to speak, more convictions based on terror, impact,
and emotional preposterousness that the world was a dream. Why would
God create me in a dream state and not let me know about it? It was
just too cruel etc.
Finally I came across perfect certainties, those that can't be
wrong. From this I saw all other things as mere 'bets', not
certainties but probabilities, and most of them pretty poor. Once I
had gathered together all my perfect certainties, and threw out all
the bets no matter how much I liked them, I was left at the perfect
50/50 mark of not knowing if the world was a dream or not.
I Knew I existed, and I knew my dream existed. That was it.
I AM.
I WANT.
I KNOW.
I DO.
Doing = Knowing + Wanting
One computes what to do from what one wants and what one knows about
how to get what one wants.
When one is Sovereign at the top of the tone scale, Wanting IS
getting.
Lower down one must DO in order to get according to the rules
laid out.
From there my mind was open enough to start having lots of
visionary dream experiences both awake and asleep that made it more
and more unlikely that the physical universe existed and I was made of
it.
It became very sure that the world was a spiritual place, that we
exist before after and all around our present time, that divinity is
quite real and quite different than human, the reason that Divinity is
Omni Numinous is because every time it talks to you it sends an Angel
AND a Devil, it can't do just one, and that this whole 'I am a
machine made of ball bearings' is quite absurd.
Machine: Any system of parts interacting via cause and effect
across a space/time distance.
While studying the mathematics of machines I came across two
rather important theorems.
The first is the Media Independence theorem which states that any
machine 'function' can be implemented in any machine media. Thus you
have clocks for example that can be made of wheels and springs, or
spinning stars, batteries and circuits, chemicals, or even sub
atomics.
A clock has an energy source, an escapement mechanism and a
display that shows the accumulated escapements (time going by). The
Media Independence theorem then says that it doesn't matter what media
you implement these three things in, the clock will do its function.
There may be *PRACTICAL* limits to what one can do, but not
theoretical limits.
Thus one could build an electric circuit that matched the
function of a neuron. One could even do it with roller balls and
springs if one wanted to, it would be big and slow and clunky, but it
would work.
Once you built such an neuron analogue you could hook them all
togther in the same way the brain was hooked together, and get a
working brain.
*IF* consciousness and pain were MERELY brain function in motion,
then the created entity of electric circuits would also have
consciousness, and feel pain and be self aware etc, even if very
slowly and clunkily :).
But here came the rub, conscious units are capable of PERFECT
certainty, not only of themselves but also of their conscious color
forms. In particular they can be perfectly certain of the contained
agency in their own will and in the color forms that gave rise to
perception. This takes a bit to get across to people, but its quite
eye opening once the being sees for sure that it can see cause.
The CU CAN KNOW AGENCY WITH PERFECT CERTAINTY.
So the second theorem that came out of the study of machines was
the Machine Certainty Theorem, commonly known as The Proof.
It states quite simply that because effects do not imply cause
with certainty, a machine that can only learn by looking at effects
in itself of alleged external causes, can never know with certainty if
those causes exist or not, let alone what the nature of those causes
might be.
In other words a machine can only look at and 'sense' effects, it
can't ever see cause, particularly across a space/time distance.
The only way to know about a cause over there is to receive an
effect here and compute back that there must be a cause out there.
That is not direct perception of cause, that is learing about
cause via implication from effect.
But any number of third parties can hook up the effects to make
it look like a cause is out there, and so mathematically it can be
proven that no series of effects can ever result in a perfect
certainty about any particular cause.
The REASON that a machine is limited to learning about external
causes by looking at effects is because of the nature of space/time.
ACtual distance between A and B means that the only way A can learn
about B is if B causes effects in A. If B causes no effects in A,
then A will never know that B exists. The only learning that A can do
about B is about the effects A receives allgedly from B. The
existence of B is mere theoretical 'compute back', and not perfect
direct perceptual certainty.
External cause always remains a theory to a machine learning
solely by looking at effects.
The machine can't even prove that cause exists at all from merely
looking at effects for an effect doesn't contain the data in it that
it was caused!
Only by looking directly at cause can one be certain of cause,
but across a distance one is limited to looking at effects, so one can
not learn with perfect certainty about cause across a distance!
Since the conscious unit can see various causes directly within
itself, not only its own agency in creating efforts, but in its color
forms as they result in perfectly certain perception of them, the
conscious unit can not be learning ABOUT THESE PARTICULAR THINGS by
looking at effects.
This completely violates the premise that the ONLY way one can
learn across a distance is BY looking at effects here about causes out
there, and thus the conscious unit is not learning about itself across
a distance.
Thus the CU is zero dimensional.
That's all very complex, but one can do a simple experiment.
Put your arm on the table and pick it up with the other hand and
force it to move. Did it move because it hurt, or was it forced to
move?
Then have someone threaten the arm with a hot needle, and notice
that you move the arm, again by force. But what moved you to move the
arm?
Then compare the desire/pain thing that moved you, and the force
that you used to move the arm until you see that the relationship
between will and pain is similar to but not identical with the
relationship between force and mass.
Pain 'moves' the will.
Force moves the mass.
Although desire and pleasure and pain 'move' or motivate the will
much as force moves an electron, motivation is more than mere push and
pull.
One can try to simulate motivation with push and pull, but it is
quite obvious by direct comparison that motivation is not reduceable
to mere push and pull.
Thus if we build a machine only out of parts that can push and
pull, it becomes impossible to create a machine that can motivate,
with desire and pain.
Thus "love and pain can not of force and mass be made".
I saw clearly that if the physical universe did exist, there
would be no way to prove it, because at all times I am perceiving the
PU through the via of my conscious color forms. Looking at effects
(my color forms) does not prove cause, so without the ability to look
at the PU directly, it was just a theory.
That left me with the possiblity that there was a hybrid theory,
that both the conscious unit and the physical universe were actual but
interacting.
Occam's Razor told me to at least temporarily nuke that idea as
1.) unprovable and 2.) too complex.
So that left me with the conscious universe only theory, but that
presented the enormous mental task of separating out the difference
between a zero dimensional scalar space time, and a 0x0x0 three
dimensional point in which nothing could fit.
The underlying actual substrate of the hologram has no
dimensional space or time, it instead has zero dimensional scalar
space and time, its not linearly extended out into a dimension the way
a road is, its all one place with an 'infinite' amount of data in it.
Everywhere and everywhen is 'here/now'.
It like, rather than make a 1000 by 1000 matrix with 1,000,000
little integers in each spot to represent what is going on there,
create a single scalar number with a 1,000,000 digits.
The first is 2 dimensional and contains 1,000,000 data points,
the second is zero dimensional but also contains just as much data.
However the CU can also scan the zero D hologram in a linear
fashion thus giving the illusion of a moving space and time.
The CU can also stop doing that in theory and 'see it all at
once', which is pure magic.
Homer
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