Friday, June 10, 2011

ADORE813

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A BET IS A BELIEF

> You said: "Belief is for losers" and "we condemn belief", yet you
> believe in Super Powers and anything supposedly (and unproved!) going
> with it!?

Those that confuse evidence with proof are unworthy of further
discussion.

You assume that super powers are unevidenced to me.

My official public position, is that it is a good bet that the world
is a dream, and thus the existence of super powers is probably self
obvious.

No belief, just rational bets based on a life time of experience and
evidences of all kinds, some merely heresay, some not so heresay. Even if
it were ALL heresay, *MY* bet stands at 51/49 for super powers. Back in
the days when I was a mortal meatball, the bet was 0/100 against. But the
proof changed all that and the bet came up to 50/50. Its been a hard
battle against pain, sorrow, and incredulity to bring it up to a fragile
51/49 for super powers.

If you wish to consider that a bet is a belief in a fair chosen
probability, then fine, yes they are beliefs, but the definition of belief
being referred to by Adore in the quote above, is more sinister, more like
the blind faith that some people have in various things.

That is hope turned into conviction.

Personally I can see the argument that a bet is a belief is a bet
is a belief.

So yeah we all have our bets, and thus we all have our beliefs.

But Adore's point, as unrealistic as it is, is that a good
scientist doesn't confuse his bets with his perfect certainties,
and thus one always needs to seek the perfect certainty in any quest
for true knowledge.

Even if someone were to move the marble for you, you still wouldn't
have a perfect certainty that the event even happened, let alone that it
happened by the methods claimed, let alone that YOU could have such power,
let alone that they were safe for anyone to have.

Over time you would start wondering about the reality or exisitence
of EVERYTHING.

Those that can not present a finely tuned prime directive on the
matter of the existence and use of super powers won't even be allowed into
the conclaves of research going on.

So write up your version of a workable prime directive with full
explanations of why and wherefore, and hand it in as a resume, and they
might invite you in. Such a resume would involve a detailed discussion of
what evidence you have for and against such powers, and what you would do
with them if you had them, and what the consequences of those actions
would be.

Really its not that hard, if you demonstrate more than the
intelligence of a pig, they will probably let you in.

True certainty of eternality comes from direct perception of
eternality. Others can always wonder and doubt, but just as you
can be certain that you exist, you can also be certain that space and
time are illusions and that you CHOSE to enter.

Perfect certainty of choice is problematic and a big deal, not to be
belittled.

But anyhow most people haven't had that experience, many still wonder
if they exist themselves, for these it will be a while before the facility
of perfect certainty gets put to use.

"I wonder if I am, therefore I am, for a nothing could not wonder
whether it was a nothing or a something." -

Philosophocles, ca. 0 BT (before time).

Homer

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