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MAYA AND ILLUSION

Mickel <mickel1234@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> The Hindu system tells us about Maya.
> A surprising amount of people seem to think that Maya tells us
> that the physical is an illusion.

It does and it is. The physical is a dream, and exists only as the
dream in consciousness amongst it's co dreamers.

There is no metal or wood or plastic in a sleep dream, everything
is made of the same stuff, conscious picture stuff.

Same for waking state.

The illusion is that there exists something OUT THERE, that there
is an out there in which to put steel, wood and plastic, and that there
is cause between them.

Stuff exists, but dimensionality does not, except as holographic
illusion. There is only one stuff, conscious stuff.

> Whereas what it actually tells us is that awareness of "only"
> physical and mental life is the illusion.

Yes, this too is an illusion, the absence of ever present divinity
leads to the illusion that there is no divinity.

> It is not that the physical is all illusion.

Disagree.

> The illusion is the idea that the physical is all there is.

Agree.

> The second understanding tells us that the more we are aware of
> the physical and the less that we are aware of the spiritual the
> more deluded we are.

Yes, delusion is believing illusions to be actual.

> We could say that the above has already happened, we have
> become so acutely introverted into the physical existence that we
> no longer have much actual awareness of our spiritual nature.

Yes, the dreamer is not aware that he is dreaming.

When was the last time you had a self aware dream, a sleep dream
where you KNEW you were dreaming, and rather than being the effect of
it, you started to take control of it because you know it was only a
dream.

Same for the waking state.

It's only a dream, but a rougher tougher one than sleep dreams.

For one the waking state is a CO dream amongst many different
people all dreaming the same thing.

For two it's hard to just wake up from the waking dream and leave
it all behind without dying.

Rest clipped as correct.

Homer

Sun Dec 9 22:42:48 EST 2007

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Learning implies Learning with Certainty or Learning without Certainty.
Learning across a Distance implies Learning by Being an Effect.
Learning by Being an Effect implies Learning without Certainty.
Therefore, Learning with Certainty implies Learning, but
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